Quote from user: WBGemstone has to order - and probably pay for - foreign stories from other publishers.
No "probably" about it. We pay. (Not a huge fee, but an understandable one... mainly, I'd just like to debunk the old rumor that we get the stories for free! It's a significant, but not painful expense.)Quote:Most of the material from the pocketbooks (the [D-coded] 3 panel stories) came from Egmont's "Jumbobog" series
And to this I can add??the Italian (I-coded) 3-panel stories, in both Gemstone's now-deceased pockets and more recent regular titles, first saw print in Italy's own TOPOLINO.Quote:The Jaime Diaz studio guys are still around but are not commissioned to do nearly as much Disney work as they once did.
I'm not absolutely certain, but I believe Jaime Diaz's studio closed in 1995. That's why you see former Diaz staffers credited with no mention of Diaz in more recent stories; they migrated to other art studios, or (as you suggest) went freelance.
Anibal Uzal began a very promising Egmont career, but unfortunately passed away several years afterward. Massaroli, whom you also mentioned, has drawn dozens of stories for Egmont and is still at it today.Quote:Quote:I also never knew there were Wuzzles comics.
They were utterly TERRIBLE studio produced comics.
You mean Tom Yakutis' stories? Hey, I liked those! (dodges volley of tomatoes)Quote:The general consensus is that individual writers and artists on the modern day stories is good. But any and all stories produced in-house at Disney Studio were BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.
Even those written by Dick Kinney, George Davies, Ed Nofziger, and Bob Foster? Even those drawn by Paul Murry, Al Hubbard, and Romano Scarpa? For shame, brother! (-: I'm afraid I too used to judge the Studio output by its (generally) weaker 1980s creations. But there was a lot of good produced there, too.Quote:Only one Gummi Bears story has ever been created that I know of - a studio story printed in an annual - and that in and of itself is a crying shame.
Disney actually produced several dozen Gummi Bears stories; we just haven't seen them over here. The tone and style is exactly the same as the Wuzzles stories??self-conscious, toony gag stories. I thought that worked in the Wuzzles' simple world, but in the Gummis' world, with its potential for wild and rich adventure, it sort of felt to me like a wasted opportunity. The story you remember, "Hate Cuisine," was a fairly typical example.Quote:[live action films] too may be a separate license in and of itself given Gladstone I, II, Marvel, Acclaim, nor Gemstone NEVER produced any comics based on the live action movies.
Seems Marvel did have a license to adapt one live action film: a "Three Musketeers" movie of the mid-90s. They also adapted the live-action 101 DALMATIANS film. Dunno whether they ever attempted anything else remotely similar, though.
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Topic: Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
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Ramapith
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
Message 16 -
2008-01-22 at 01:49:01
Cacou
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
Message 17 -
2008-01-22 at 08:15:05
Quote from user: Uncle_EdI think your's is in English but your first row is laid out with more art than my first row. I can't figure out how or why they'd release it in 2 formats. Your panels beyond that are just best of images of the firest week or so of the strip and not in order. In my scannings you'll get the first 4 days of each strip as 1 page format.
The image on COA for the Pocahontas story is in Dutch. The Dutch editors used a different layout than in the newspapers.
I have added a credit now, and you should be able to upload a scan if you like.
Quote from user: WBThe general consensus is that individual writers and artists on the modern day stories is good. But any and all stories produced in-house at Disney Studio were BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD. This was especially true when Ducktales got its own book and William Van Horn and the french stuff made the studio stuff look like doo-doo. It wasn't until Disney took over that those characters REALLY began to shine and come into thier own because they had individuals who really cared about and wrote for the characters and understood what made the various cartoon series work.
There are many bad Studio stories, but also some very good ones: the Fethry and Brer Rabbit stories, the stories with art by Carpi or Scarpa, with Rockerduck or the "Goofy in History" or "Goofy look at..." series etc. Did you read that?
The image on COA for the Pocahontas story is in Dutch. The Dutch editors used a different layout than in the newspapers.
I have added a credit now, and you should be able to upload a scan if you like.
Quote from user: WBThe general consensus is that individual writers and artists on the modern day stories is good. But any and all stories produced in-house at Disney Studio were BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD. This was especially true when Ducktales got its own book and William Van Horn and the french stuff made the studio stuff look like doo-doo. It wasn't until Disney took over that those characters REALLY began to shine and come into thier own because they had individuals who really cared about and wrote for the characters and understood what made the various cartoon series work.
There are many bad Studio stories, but also some very good ones: the Fethry and Brer Rabbit stories, the stories with art by Carpi or Scarpa, with Rockerduck or the "Goofy in History" or "Goofy look at..." series etc. Did you read that?
Uncle_Ed
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
Message 18 -
2008-01-22 at 14:44:27
I'll be putting them up for sure. It's just a matter of preparing them first.
Ramapith
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
Message 19 -
2008-01-23 at 05:56:45
Quote from user: cacouThere are many bad Studio stories, but also some very good ones: the Fethry and Brer Rabbit stories, the stories with art by Carpi or Scarpa, with Rockerduck or the "Goofy in History" or "Goofy look at..." series etc. Did you read that?
A guilty truth about the Goofy History stories??I think they're better in languages other than English.
In English, Goofy usually speaks in a "goofy" dialect; a friendly sort of countrified dialect similar to what he uses on screen. In the original English versions of the Goofy History stories (and some of the Goofy Look At stories), Goofy speaks in basic college English. In most Disney comics, Goofy is kindhearted and nearly selfless; in Goofy History, Goofy often comes across as selfish and arrogant.
For me, "parody" stories as a whole, with Disney stars playing the roles of literary and/or historical characters, only really work if the characters still act like we know them to act. If they're ill-defined actors who only seem to be Mickey, Donald, and Goofy through visual resemblance, I feel like it's a rather poor use of a Mickey, Donald, or Goofy story.
A guilty truth about the Goofy History stories??I think they're better in languages other than English.
In English, Goofy usually speaks in a "goofy" dialect; a friendly sort of countrified dialect similar to what he uses on screen. In the original English versions of the Goofy History stories (and some of the Goofy Look At stories), Goofy speaks in basic college English. In most Disney comics, Goofy is kindhearted and nearly selfless; in Goofy History, Goofy often comes across as selfish and arrogant.
For me, "parody" stories as a whole, with Disney stars playing the roles of literary and/or historical characters, only really work if the characters still act like we know them to act. If they're ill-defined actors who only seem to be Mickey, Donald, and Goofy through visual resemblance, I feel like it's a rather poor use of a Mickey, Donald, or Goofy story.
Cacou
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
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2008-01-23 at 20:18:32
Quote from user: ramapithA guilty truth about the Goofy History stories??I think they're better in languages other than English.
In English, Goofy usually speaks in a "goofy" dialect; a friendly sort of countrified dialect similar to what he uses on screen. In the original English versions of the Goofy History stories (and some of the Goofy Look At stories), Goofy speaks in basic college English. In most Disney comics, Goofy is kindhearted and nearly selfless; in Goofy History, Goofy often comes across as selfish and arrogant.
For me, "parody" stories as a whole, with Disney stars playing the roles of literary and/or historical characters, only really work if the characters still act like we know them to act. If they're ill-defined actors who only seem to be Mickey, Donald, and Goofy through visual resemblance, I feel like it's a rather poor use of a Mickey, Donald, or Goofy story.
I always understood that as a kind of second degree tale. Just like: "let's play the game that Goofy is the selfish King Midas". In the tradition of Barks' master stories where Donald suddenly becomes the greatest expert at something.
Not long ago Hachette used to print, in the same issue, an 80s Brazilian comic by Soares Rodrigues, a 40s comic-book tale by Harvey Eisenberg, a Vicar story, a French Marin story, a Dutch Ellsworth gag and an old Italian story... (and some Gottfredson as well!). Such variety is puzzling sometimes, but also very refreshing. Many good stuff is created when a "shift" is operated, like for Paperinik's creation where Donald was able to defeat Gladstone and the evil Scrooge - for once?
And still the "history" stories are extremely good, by many people accounts.
In English, Goofy usually speaks in a "goofy" dialect; a friendly sort of countrified dialect similar to what he uses on screen. In the original English versions of the Goofy History stories (and some of the Goofy Look At stories), Goofy speaks in basic college English. In most Disney comics, Goofy is kindhearted and nearly selfless; in Goofy History, Goofy often comes across as selfish and arrogant.
For me, "parody" stories as a whole, with Disney stars playing the roles of literary and/or historical characters, only really work if the characters still act like we know them to act. If they're ill-defined actors who only seem to be Mickey, Donald, and Goofy through visual resemblance, I feel like it's a rather poor use of a Mickey, Donald, or Goofy story.
I always understood that as a kind of second degree tale. Just like: "let's play the game that Goofy is the selfish King Midas". In the tradition of Barks' master stories where Donald suddenly becomes the greatest expert at something.
Not long ago Hachette used to print, in the same issue, an 80s Brazilian comic by Soares Rodrigues, a 40s comic-book tale by Harvey Eisenberg, a Vicar story, a French Marin story, a Dutch Ellsworth gag and an old Italian story... (and some Gottfredson as well!). Such variety is puzzling sometimes, but also very refreshing. Many good stuff is created when a "shift" is operated, like for Paperinik's creation where Donald was able to defeat Gladstone and the evil Scrooge - for once?
And still the "history" stories are extremely good, by many people accounts.
Uncle_Ed
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
Message 21 -
2008-01-24 at 05:13:42
I found out I did have the Mighty Ducks Acclaim book after all. So now the only one in question is the Snow White book they ran an ad for on the back of one of the books. Does it exist?The oddest thing about them is on the back cover it says there are stories featuring whatever film and in the Mighty Ducks book it says Aladdin is in there and all that there is is an ad to subscribe with the Genie. For Hercules there's a cloud maze. That doesn't count as stories to me. No wonder they tanked...
Uncle_Ed
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
Message 22 -
2008-01-24 at 16:34:42
I'd still be interested in seeing them all even when they aren't good. Some were okay but most stories are pretty bad.
Lars Jensen
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
Message 23 -
2008-02-04 at 20:41:50
Quote from user: Uncle_Ed1994 - Simba's Winter Festival - 23
The Simba story was printed in Denmark. As far as I remember, it was 24 strips.
The Simba story was printed in Denmark. As far as I remember, it was 24 strips.
Lars Jensen
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
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2008-02-04 at 22:05:56
Just to clarify a few things...
Quote from user: WBMost of the material from the pocketbooks (the 3 panel stories) all came from Egmont's "Jumbobog" series which was a weekly pocket book
The Danish Jumbobog comes out every four weeks -- and it's still being published.
Quote from user: WBEgmont seems to have a pool of freelancers that are based primarily out of Spain with the exception of Cavazzano
Cavazzano isn't really an Egmont artist. Although he has drawn a few stories for Egmont, it has (as far as I know) always been due to a special arrangement between Egmont and Disney Italy.
Quote from user: WBQuote from user: Uncle_EdI also never knew there were Wuzzles comics.
They were utterly TERRIBLE studio produced comics.
Quote from user: WBQuote from user: Uncle_EdWas there ever a Gummi Bears one?
Only one Gummi Bears story has ever been created that I know of - a studio story printed in an annual - and that in and of itself is a crying shame. Gummi Bears deserves better than that.
Actually, a small handful of Wuzzle material and a large stack of Gummi Bear stuff were produced. Check out Inducks (which is still incomplete, as regards the Gummi Bears newspaper strip, by the way).
Quote from user: WBMost of the material from the pocketbooks (the 3 panel stories) all came from Egmont's "Jumbobog" series which was a weekly pocket book
The Danish Jumbobog comes out every four weeks -- and it's still being published.
Quote from user: WBEgmont seems to have a pool of freelancers that are based primarily out of Spain with the exception of Cavazzano
Cavazzano isn't really an Egmont artist. Although he has drawn a few stories for Egmont, it has (as far as I know) always been due to a special arrangement between Egmont and Disney Italy.
Quote from user: WBQuote from user: Uncle_EdI also never knew there were Wuzzles comics.
They were utterly TERRIBLE studio produced comics.
Quote from user: WBQuote from user: Uncle_EdWas there ever a Gummi Bears one?
Only one Gummi Bears story has ever been created that I know of - a studio story printed in an annual - and that in and of itself is a crying shame. Gummi Bears deserves better than that.
Actually, a small handful of Wuzzle material and a large stack of Gummi Bear stuff were produced. Check out Inducks (which is still incomplete, as regards the Gummi Bears newspaper strip, by the way).
Lars Jensen
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
Message 25 -
2008-02-04 at 22:27:52
Quote from user: Uncle_Ed[Ludwig Von Drake is] obviously a cannon character.
I suspect every Disney fan alive has his or her own definition of what is canon, though. It's probably impossible to reach a consensus on canonicity.
Quote from user: Uncle_Ed"No one draws comics for Gemstone as Gemstone (incredibly sadly sad) does not have the finances to commision new stories or hold freelancers outside of rare occasions. Many of the Disney comics creators have moved on,"
I thought that guys like Don Rosa and Pat Block still drew them for Gemstone.
Don Rosa doesn't make any stories for Gemstone. Pat Block has done a few lately, though.
Quote from user: Uncle_EdIf Gemstone doesn't do new comics too then where is their work first from?
Mostly Egmont.
Quote from user: Uncle_Ed"Only one Gummi Bears story has ever been created that I know of - a studio story printed in an annual - and that in and of itself is a crying shame. Gummi Bears deserves better than that. Even though Gargoyles was based on a Gummi-Bears ish precedent I dont think Image getting it would ever happen given Gemstone has Ducktales.Eh, Weisman's probably the only one really worth looking at IMO. I've heard good things about the Gargoyles book although I haven't seen it myself either. And it's under Dark Horse, not Image. My bad."
I wouldn't mind doing a Gummi Bears book myself but you really need to give it a scope and direction like Gargoyles have.
Not many people know this, but so far I have twice wanted to sort-of use the Gummi Bears in a TNT story. In my opinion, there are some good Gummi Bear stories that are yet to be written...
I suspect every Disney fan alive has his or her own definition of what is canon, though. It's probably impossible to reach a consensus on canonicity.
Quote from user: Uncle_Ed"No one draws comics for Gemstone as Gemstone (incredibly sadly sad) does not have the finances to commision new stories or hold freelancers outside of rare occasions. Many of the Disney comics creators have moved on,"
I thought that guys like Don Rosa and Pat Block still drew them for Gemstone.
Don Rosa doesn't make any stories for Gemstone. Pat Block has done a few lately, though.
Quote from user: Uncle_EdIf Gemstone doesn't do new comics too then where is their work first from?
Mostly Egmont.
Quote from user: Uncle_Ed"Only one Gummi Bears story has ever been created that I know of - a studio story printed in an annual - and that in and of itself is a crying shame. Gummi Bears deserves better than that. Even though Gargoyles was based on a Gummi-Bears ish precedent I dont think Image getting it would ever happen given Gemstone has Ducktales.Eh, Weisman's probably the only one really worth looking at IMO. I've heard good things about the Gargoyles book although I haven't seen it myself either. And it's under Dark Horse, not Image. My bad."
I wouldn't mind doing a Gummi Bears book myself but you really need to give it a scope and direction like Gargoyles have.
Not many people know this, but so far I have twice wanted to sort-of use the Gummi Bears in a TNT story. In my opinion, there are some good Gummi Bear stories that are yet to be written...
Lars Jensen
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
Message 26 -
2008-02-08 at 16:34:09
Quote from user: Roger NorthGummi Bears with the Ducks? That sounds like a good idea for a crossover story but I'm not sure it's going to happen though.
Me neither.
Me neither.
WB
Disney Christmas Comics for King Features
Message 27 -
2008-02-11 at 18:46:22
Quote from user: Lars JensenNot many people know this, but so far I have twice wanted to sort-of use the Gummi Bears in a TNT story. In my opinion, there are some good Gummi Bear stories that are yet to be written...
Lars, I think that if you did that and managed to pull it off I would be your best friend from now until the end of time. :)
The last episode of Gummi Bears had them dealing with the overseas Gummi's retreating back into hiding after Duke Igthorn's takeover attempt. i assume this would be a different branch entirely or...? Hell I dont know and don't care, just to see Gummi's again would suit me just fine, sir.
**cracks whips** So whom do I need to bribe to see this wonderful idea come to fruition? :D
Lars, I think that if you did that and managed to pull it off I would be your best friend from now until the end of time. :)
The last episode of Gummi Bears had them dealing with the overseas Gummi's retreating back into hiding after Duke Igthorn's takeover attempt. i assume this would be a different branch entirely or...? Hell I dont know and don't care, just to see Gummi's again would suit me just fine, sir.
**cracks whips** So whom do I need to bribe to see this wonderful idea come to fruition? :D
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