I recently became interested in Scrooge McDuck's animated appearances, as they're obviously much less known than his comic appearances. To have something 'Ducky' and creative to do, I was thinking about making an 'evolution' picture (something like this: http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/images/goofy2.gif) of Scrooge in animation, making use of screenshots from animation from my own collection. However, I still need some stuff to be able to complete it, and I'd like to ask you guys for help, At first, I decided to include the 'early' version of Scrooge from the 1943 cartoon 'The Spirit of '43'. I wanted to include the voice actor of every appearance, but I couldn't find out who actually voiced Scrooge in this cartoon. I figured his voice didn't sound like Bill Thompson, who is the only voice actor of Scrooge that I can think of (apart from Alan Young, of course). Does anybody know more about this one? My other question concerns Scrooge's appearance in 'Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas' (I know, it's a little early for a Christmas question ;)). Does anybody own this one and has the ability to make a screenshot of Scrooge (preferably one on which his entire body is visible, if possible). My last question is if anybody knows about any other animated appearances apart from these ones:
- The Spirit of '43
- Mickey Mouse club intro (a cameo, when he jumps out of the Big Bad Wolf's hat)
- Scrooge McDuck and Money
- Mickey's Christmas Carol
- Sport Goofy in Soccermania (TV special, similar to Ducktales)
- Ducktales, Bonkers and Raw Toonage
- House of Mouse (?)
- Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas
- Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas (3D animation)
Any help would be appreciated! :)
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Topic: Uncle Scrooge in animation
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Scroogerello
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2014-07-21 at 11:58:22
Gyro Gearloose
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2014-07-21 at 13:13:13
I wouldn't count the Scottish duck in Spirit of '43 as an animated Scrooge--seeing as the cartoon was made years before Barks created the Scrooge McDuck character.
Scroogerello
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2014-07-21 at 14:09:05
You're right, that one definately isn't an 'official' appearance of Scrooge. I just like to think of the character as a kind of early version of Scrooge, like Donna Duck is an early version of Daisy (and Dippy Dawg an early version of Goofy). And, of course, I think the animation of this cartoon is beautiful, and the character-who-looks-like-Scrooge was drawn so well that I found it a waste to leave him out.
By the way, was the Scottish duck from 'The Spirit of '43' actually named? I know his name wasn't mentoined in the cartoon itself, but there might have been some name given to him by the Disney studios...
By the way, was the Scottish duck from 'The Spirit of '43' actually named? I know his name wasn't mentoined in the cartoon itself, but there might have been some name given to him by the Disney studios...
Robb_K
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2014-07-21 at 16:53:37
Quote from user: ScroogerelloYou're right, that one definately isn't an 'official' appearance of Scrooge. I just like to think of the character as a kind of early version of Scrooge, like Donna Duck is an early version of Daisy (and Dippy Dawg an early version of Goofy). And, of course, I think the animation of this cartoon is beautiful, and the character-who-looks-like-Scrooge was drawn so well that I found it a waste to leave him out.
By the way, was the Scottish duck from 'The Spirit of '43' actually named? I know his name wasn't mentoined in the cartoon itself, but there might have been some name given to him by the Disney studios...
Dippy Dawg WAS the same character as Goofy. They just officialy changed his name to "Goofy".
I doubt seriously that The Disney Studio or any drawings or documents had "official" character names for that Scottish Duck in The Spirit of '43"
By the way, was the Scottish duck from 'The Spirit of '43' actually named? I know his name wasn't mentoined in the cartoon itself, but there might have been some name given to him by the Disney studios...
Dippy Dawg WAS the same character as Goofy. They just officialy changed his name to "Goofy".
I doubt seriously that The Disney Studio or any drawings or documents had "official" character names for that Scottish Duck in The Spirit of '43"
HonuDan
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2014-07-21 at 17:59:00
I think this could count as an animated appearance, to be placed in between the Mickey Mouse Club intro and Scrooge McDuck and Money: a mention and shot of Scrooge on a character-laden train in a TV commercial for Walt Disney's Magazine.
I'm relatively sure the primary designer for the spot was Bill Justice, it's a fun ad with a catchy jingle! Link below to the full commercial (should start automatically at 5:27):
1957 Walt Disney's Magazine Commercial
Here's a screenshot:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xV8zInUhkXo/U81T7_XC_MI/AAAAAAAACDA/IvMqW5IMYCg/s528/WDM.jpg
I'm relatively sure the primary designer for the spot was Bill Justice, it's a fun ad with a catchy jingle! Link below to the full commercial (should start automatically at 5:27):
1957 Walt Disney's Magazine Commercial
Here's a screenshot:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xV8zInUhkXo/U81T7_XC_MI/AAAAAAAACDA/IvMqW5IMYCg/s528/WDM.jpg
Mesterius
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2014-07-21 at 20:32:23
Quote from user: Gyro GearlooseI wouldn't count the Scottish duck in Spirit of '43 as an animated Scrooge--seeing as the cartoon was made years before Barks created the Scrooge McDuck character.
I kind of agree with this reasoning, but I also respectfully disagree that it should not be included if, say, a DVD compilation was ever put together entitled "Scrooge McDuck's Animated Evolution". And that's not because I think the Spirit of '43 Scottish duck is Scrooge - it isn't - but because it's kinda fascinating to speculate that this character, design-wise at least, might have inspired Barks' Scrooge.
Of course, it's easy to also speculate that the similarities are all coincidental. It feels logical to give a character Scottish origins when said character is a cheapskate and a savethrift. And Scrooge's design is basically just an "old duck" extension of Donald himself. Barks may just as well have come up with the design and country origins entirely from his own imagination. But as long as we don't know, it's interesting to wonder.
Or... let me just ask, as others here might know more than me about this: Has it ever been proved that the Spirit of '43 cartoon did NOT inspire Barks in any way when he was creating Scrooge? Has Barks addressed it in interviews?
I kind of agree with this reasoning, but I also respectfully disagree that it should not be included if, say, a DVD compilation was ever put together entitled "Scrooge McDuck's Animated Evolution". And that's not because I think the Spirit of '43 Scottish duck is Scrooge - it isn't - but because it's kinda fascinating to speculate that this character, design-wise at least, might have inspired Barks' Scrooge.
Of course, it's easy to also speculate that the similarities are all coincidental. It feels logical to give a character Scottish origins when said character is a cheapskate and a savethrift. And Scrooge's design is basically just an "old duck" extension of Donald himself. Barks may just as well have come up with the design and country origins entirely from his own imagination. But as long as we don't know, it's interesting to wonder.
Or... let me just ask, as others here might know more than me about this: Has it ever been proved that the Spirit of '43 cartoon did NOT inspire Barks in any way when he was creating Scrooge? Has Barks addressed it in interviews?
Mesterius
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2014-07-21 at 23:09:31
Quote from user: ScroogerelloI recently became interested in Scrooge McDuck's animated appearances, as they're obviously much less known than his comic appearances.
I think that depends on who you ask. In America, the sad truth is probably still that the DuckTales TV series is far more known to the general public than anything else Scrooge McDuck has appeared in, including Barks' finest comic book stories. Of course, in Europe (and many other places around the globe), it's a whole different matter.
Anyway, this is an interesting project. A while back, I compiled my own collection of Scrooge in animation from the start up until DuckTales (I haven't bothered with stuff newer than the early 90s so far). Your list covers almost every animated appearance I know of, but there ARE a couple of rare treasures I'd like to add: The few instances when Scrooge was animated by Italian Disney comics great Romano Scarpa! The first is a more than 5 minute long intro/theme song for the Italian "Topolino" (Mickey Mouse) show; written, directed and animated entirely by Scarpa himself in 1982. You can see the whole thing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSDD-mlxDFU ...and also most of it here, in much better quality, from a 1987 program where Scarpa is interviewed about his animation and animates a Mickey Mouse walk cycle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljE_sWyFzN4
The animation of Scrooge in the "Topolino" intro is just a walk cycle, as with most of the other Disney characters, though I still love that clip just for the chance to see Scarpa's drawing style in motion, and to see some never-before-animated Disney characters moving. (Plus, there's some excellent Mickey animation towards the end where Mickey really feels like he's stepped out of Scarpa's comics pages.)
But of course, the raison d'etre of Scarpa's Scrooge animation is this 1988 (or maybe 1987?) DuckTales animation test: https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1092337676743 The piece is lavishly animated, despite some awkward timing issues - in fact, with the exception of "Mickey's Christmas Carol" (which didn't quite feature the real Scrooge anyway), this is probably the best animation I've ever seen of Scrooge. Maybe you already knew about this as it's DuckTales-related, but I thought I should include it anyway. I would have loved to see the entire DuckTales series animated in Scarpa's style - it has LOADS more personality than what the show ended up with.
Don't know if Scrooge or any other Disney stars were animated by Scarpa on other occacions, too... but if so, I'd love to see it!
By the way, awesome find. HonuDan. :) I had never heard of that commercial appearance before.
I think that depends on who you ask. In America, the sad truth is probably still that the DuckTales TV series is far more known to the general public than anything else Scrooge McDuck has appeared in, including Barks' finest comic book stories. Of course, in Europe (and many other places around the globe), it's a whole different matter.
Anyway, this is an interesting project. A while back, I compiled my own collection of Scrooge in animation from the start up until DuckTales (I haven't bothered with stuff newer than the early 90s so far). Your list covers almost every animated appearance I know of, but there ARE a couple of rare treasures I'd like to add: The few instances when Scrooge was animated by Italian Disney comics great Romano Scarpa! The first is a more than 5 minute long intro/theme song for the Italian "Topolino" (Mickey Mouse) show; written, directed and animated entirely by Scarpa himself in 1982. You can see the whole thing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSDD-mlxDFU ...and also most of it here, in much better quality, from a 1987 program where Scarpa is interviewed about his animation and animates a Mickey Mouse walk cycle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljE_sWyFzN4
The animation of Scrooge in the "Topolino" intro is just a walk cycle, as with most of the other Disney characters, though I still love that clip just for the chance to see Scarpa's drawing style in motion, and to see some never-before-animated Disney characters moving. (Plus, there's some excellent Mickey animation towards the end where Mickey really feels like he's stepped out of Scarpa's comics pages.)
But of course, the raison d'etre of Scarpa's Scrooge animation is this 1988 (or maybe 1987?) DuckTales animation test: https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1092337676743 The piece is lavishly animated, despite some awkward timing issues - in fact, with the exception of "Mickey's Christmas Carol" (which didn't quite feature the real Scrooge anyway), this is probably the best animation I've ever seen of Scrooge. Maybe you already knew about this as it's DuckTales-related, but I thought I should include it anyway. I would have loved to see the entire DuckTales series animated in Scarpa's style - it has LOADS more personality than what the show ended up with.
Don't know if Scrooge or any other Disney stars were animated by Scarpa on other occacions, too... but if so, I'd love to see it!
By the way, awesome find. HonuDan. :) I had never heard of that commercial appearance before.
Scroogerello
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2014-07-22 at 13:15:55
Thanks for the screenshot, HonuDan! Very interesting; Scrooge had already made two cameo appearances before his presumed animated debut in 'Scrooge McDuck and Money'!
The info on Romano Scarpa's Scrooge animation was very interesting as well, Mesterius! Thanks for posting. It does strike me that Fethry doesn't appear in the intro of the Topolino show--now he's probably the only recurring Duck character with such populariry who never appeared on screen.
Quote from user: Robb_KQuote from user: ScroogerelloYou're right, that one definately isn't an 'official' appearance of Scrooge. I just like to think of the character as a kind of early version of Scrooge, like Donna Duck is an early version of Daisy (and Dippy Dawg an early version of Goofy). And, of course, I think the animation of this cartoon is beautiful, and the character-who-looks-like-Scrooge was drawn so well that I found it a waste to leave him out.
By the way, was the Scottish duck from 'The Spirit of '43' actually named? I know his name wasn't mentoined in the cartoon itself, but there might have been some name given to him by the Disney studios...
Dippy Dawg WAS the same character as Goofy. They just officialy changed his name to "Goofy".
Wait--yeah you're right. I said that without really thinking, as Dippy and Goofy being seperate characters remains fanfic. But I'm pretty sure someone mentoined an appearance of Dippy Dawg as a seperate character somewhere. Was it here on the forum?
The info on Romano Scarpa's Scrooge animation was very interesting as well, Mesterius! Thanks for posting. It does strike me that Fethry doesn't appear in the intro of the Topolino show--now he's probably the only recurring Duck character with such populariry who never appeared on screen.
Quote from user: Robb_KQuote from user: ScroogerelloYou're right, that one definately isn't an 'official' appearance of Scrooge. I just like to think of the character as a kind of early version of Scrooge, like Donna Duck is an early version of Daisy (and Dippy Dawg an early version of Goofy). And, of course, I think the animation of this cartoon is beautiful, and the character-who-looks-like-Scrooge was drawn so well that I found it a waste to leave him out.
By the way, was the Scottish duck from 'The Spirit of '43' actually named? I know his name wasn't mentoined in the cartoon itself, but there might have been some name given to him by the Disney studios...
Dippy Dawg WAS the same character as Goofy. They just officialy changed his name to "Goofy".
Wait--yeah you're right. I said that without really thinking, as Dippy and Goofy being seperate characters remains fanfic. But I'm pretty sure someone mentoined an appearance of Dippy Dawg as a seperate character somewhere. Was it here on the forum?
Roger North
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2014-07-23 at 11:32:42
I wish Scrooge could have been as popular in animation as he was in the comic books. He is my all time favorite Disney Character.
Baar Baar Jinx
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2015-06-19 at 15:11:17
Scrooge's cameo appearance in the intro of the Mickey Mouse Club in the '50s has always intrigued me. This was well before Scrooge McDuck and Money and the proposed Barks-inspired Scrooge cartoon that never happened. At this point, Scrooge was clearly a purely comics-based character. I take great pleasure in the fact that Scrooge made this early transition to animation, even in this limited fashion, but how exactly did this come about? Whose inspired decision was it to use Scrooge in a cameo in this way? Did Barks ever comment on it? Other strange things about the intro ... two Clarabelles, three Mouse nephews and Horace in his unclothed early design. Also, if that was Clarence Nash voicing Donald, he seemed to be off his game a little there.
Thomps2525
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2015-06-19 at 21:44:56
Here we go, getting off topic again. Well...actually, I am getting off topic. I can't really blame anyone else. But the original Mickey Mouse Club intro, which was almost as long as the current Mickey cartoons are, had some sloppy animation: Goofy's walk is stiff and awkward, Donald somehow appears and disappears behind the pigs, Jiminy's red cards keep appearing from nowhere, and five bears are shown alongside other characters holding on to the trampoline---or whatever you call it---and then in the closeup, we see thirteen bears go by! Who did the animation? And was the intro made so lengthy because that way each day's episode wouldn't require so much original content? When was the intro shortened? And why? Me and my questions!
MustangRockstar
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2015-06-22 at 02:47:27
Disney has done a better job than other U.S. studios of protecting their classic characters, which has saved fans from some pretty lame efforts. It's also a bit of a double-edged sword.
It's also limited the exposure of some of the classic characters and prevented them from finding a more concrete place in the pop-culture of younger generations.
It's also limited the exposure of some of the classic characters and prevented them from finding a more concrete place in the pop-culture of younger generations.
King Scrooge The First
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2015-06-22 at 03:32:33
Quote from user: MustangRockstarDisney has done a better job than other U.S. studios of protecting their classic characters, which has saved fans from some pretty lame efforts. It's also a bit of a double-edged sword.
It's also limited the exposure of some of the classic characters and prevented them from finding a more concrete place in the pop-culture of younger generations.
Luckily Disney has been trying to rectify that since the late 90s when they allowed Mickey to be a cartoon character again. I remember when Mickey Mouse Works came out, I was so excited. Next came House of Mouse which built upon Mouse Works. For the longest time Disney was so protective of Mickey he was pretty much marginalized to not much more than a company mascot.
It's also limited the exposure of some of the classic characters and prevented them from finding a more concrete place in the pop-culture of younger generations.
Luckily Disney has been trying to rectify that since the late 90s when they allowed Mickey to be a cartoon character again. I remember when Mickey Mouse Works came out, I was so excited. Next came House of Mouse which built upon Mouse Works. For the longest time Disney was so protective of Mickey he was pretty much marginalized to not much more than a company mascot.
MustangRockstar
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2015-06-23 at 04:02:49
Quote from user: king scrooge the firstQuote from user: MustangRockstarDisney has done a better job than other U.S. studios of protecting their classic characters, which has saved fans from some pretty lame efforts. It's also a bit of a double-edged sword.
It's also limited the exposure of some of the classic characters and prevented them from finding a more concrete place in the pop-culture of younger generations.
Luckily Disney has been trying to rectify that since the late 90s when they allowed Mickey to be a cartoon character again. I remember when Mickey Mouse Works came out, I was so excited. Next came House of Mouse which built upon Mouse Works. For the longest time Disney was so protective of Mickey he was pretty much marginalized to not much more than a company mascot.
It's funny, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny were the icons of their respective animation studios and yet in both cases I found the number two character (a duck) to be more interesting. In Disney's case, I also found Goofy and a lot of the b-team cartoons to be more interesting as well.
It's also limited the exposure of some of the classic characters and prevented them from finding a more concrete place in the pop-culture of younger generations.
Luckily Disney has been trying to rectify that since the late 90s when they allowed Mickey to be a cartoon character again. I remember when Mickey Mouse Works came out, I was so excited. Next came House of Mouse which built upon Mouse Works. For the longest time Disney was so protective of Mickey he was pretty much marginalized to not much more than a company mascot.
It's funny, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny were the icons of their respective animation studios and yet in both cases I found the number two character (a duck) to be more interesting. In Disney's case, I also found Goofy and a lot of the b-team cartoons to be more interesting as well.
King Scrooge The First
Uncle Scrooge in animation
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2015-06-23 at 05:46:39
Quote from user: MustangRockstarQuote from user: king scrooge the firstQuote from user: MustangRockstarDisney has done a better job than other U.S. studios of protecting their classic characters, which has saved fans from some pretty lame efforts. It's also a bit of a double-edged sword.
It's also limited the exposure of some of the classic characters and prevented them from finding a more concrete place in the pop-culture of younger generations.
Luckily Disney has been trying to rectify that since the late 90s when they allowed Mickey to be a cartoon character again. I remember when Mickey Mouse Works came out, I was so excited. Next came House of Mouse which built upon Mouse Works. For the longest time Disney was so protective of Mickey he was pretty much marginalized to not much more than a company mascot.
It's funny, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny were the icons of their respective animation studios and yet in both cases I found the number two character (a duck) to be more interesting. In Disney's case, I also found Goofy and a lot of the b-team cartoons to be more interesting as well.
Its too bad that Goofy is usually confined to the role of Mickey's sidekick in the comic books. I would love to read more goofy or super goof-centric stories. Going from Goofy back to Scrooge, Soccermania was awesome. I remember watching it on NBC back in '87 and rewatching it on VHS frequently. I really liked the animation, it wasn't as polished as it was on DuckTales and had a little more personality. The look of the animation was great ad the special was well-plotted imo. Darrell Van Citters did a good job with this special. It's a shame he didn't stay with the studio, I would've loved to have seen th planned follow-up to Soccermania: Swabbies. I've seen the model sheets online and I have no doubt that it would've been entertaining.
It was delightfully strange seeing Goofy dropped into Duckburg and what was basically a 'DuckTales' pilot. (PS: I know Soccermania wasn't really a DuckTales pilot, it just happened to air several months in advance) I did like SM's Beagle Boys better, they had varied personalities but they still seemed a bit closer to the Beagle Boys of the comics. The bit where Scrooge sees the headline 'Soccer Trophy Worth Millions' and crashes up through the roof was classic.
Wb poked fun at the Donald/Daffy parallels in the 90s short 'Blooper Bunny.' Daffy was to suck up to Bugs in the script, and he grumbled 'Warner Bros. doesn't have an original bone in their body, next they'll saddle me with three snot nosed nephews.'
It's also limited the exposure of some of the classic characters and prevented them from finding a more concrete place in the pop-culture of younger generations.
Luckily Disney has been trying to rectify that since the late 90s when they allowed Mickey to be a cartoon character again. I remember when Mickey Mouse Works came out, I was so excited. Next came House of Mouse which built upon Mouse Works. For the longest time Disney was so protective of Mickey he was pretty much marginalized to not much more than a company mascot.
It's funny, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny were the icons of their respective animation studios and yet in both cases I found the number two character (a duck) to be more interesting. In Disney's case, I also found Goofy and a lot of the b-team cartoons to be more interesting as well.
Its too bad that Goofy is usually confined to the role of Mickey's sidekick in the comic books. I would love to read more goofy or super goof-centric stories. Going from Goofy back to Scrooge, Soccermania was awesome. I remember watching it on NBC back in '87 and rewatching it on VHS frequently. I really liked the animation, it wasn't as polished as it was on DuckTales and had a little more personality. The look of the animation was great ad the special was well-plotted imo. Darrell Van Citters did a good job with this special. It's a shame he didn't stay with the studio, I would've loved to have seen th planned follow-up to Soccermania: Swabbies. I've seen the model sheets online and I have no doubt that it would've been entertaining.
It was delightfully strange seeing Goofy dropped into Duckburg and what was basically a 'DuckTales' pilot. (PS: I know Soccermania wasn't really a DuckTales pilot, it just happened to air several months in advance) I did like SM's Beagle Boys better, they had varied personalities but they still seemed a bit closer to the Beagle Boys of the comics. The bit where Scrooge sees the headline 'Soccer Trophy Worth Millions' and crashes up through the roof was classic.
Wb poked fun at the Donald/Daffy parallels in the 90s short 'Blooper Bunny.' Daffy was to suck up to Bugs in the script, and he grumbled 'Warner Bros. doesn't have an original bone in their body, next they'll saddle me with three snot nosed nephews.'
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