Do you use inducks for your research? If not, there are tons of useful info in the database. The search page might take a little time to get used to, but just type in "Peter Pan" in the "Characters" field for a start.
A couple of examples:
The comic in the auction you won (remember to ask before bidding if international postage is not listed) is in the database:
http://coa.inducks.org/issue.php?c=uk/DAA++13
If you click on the story code (E GN 96-07) you get more info about this adaption and where else it is printed.
To check which French comics have the sunday page adaption of Peter Pan, check this page.
To get a list of the different comic adaption of the Disney Peter Pan movie, check this page.
In addition to the 4 listed, the one in the British weeklies is also an adaption of the movie (needs to be fixed in the database). With 5 different ones, this is probably the Disney movie with the most different comic adaptions made.
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Topic: Peter Pan
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FAa
Peter Pan
Message 16 -
2014-08-18 at 21:21:22
Federico
Peter Pan
Message 17 -
2014-08-18 at 23:32:19
Talking about newspaper strips, Peter also appeared with the Seven Dwarfs in this Christmas story. The introductory strip was drawn by Gottfredson.
Hook and the pirates appear without Peter in Paperiade (very loosely based on Homerus' Iliad) and they imprison Scrooge, Donald, HDL and Goofy. The plot isn't that good, but Hook was drawn really well by Luciano Bottaro. Here I uploaded the pages featuring Captain Hook (and the Ducks escaping).
Hook and the pirates appear without Peter in Paperiade (very loosely based on Homerus' Iliad) and they imprison Scrooge, Donald, HDL and Goofy. The plot isn't that good, but Hook was drawn really well by Luciano Bottaro. Here I uploaded the pages featuring Captain Hook (and the Ducks escaping).
Jehanbosch
Peter Pan
Message 18 -
2014-08-19 at 22:04:14
Sometimes I use inducks for research, sometimes not.
I have an overlarge collection of my own, you see.
Also I am hyper-critical of info and -maybe foolishly- tend to learn it the hard way..
The UK comic is settled for now. The seller recanted but I have no idea what went wrong. 9 days is far too long without communication.
I always ask whether the seller can deliver abroad and besides have several friends in other countries who can help me out if the seller does not want to..
Also, I have the very same UK comic in Dutch but that is not my favourite language (my mother's family is English speaking).
In fact I did use the inducks info to buy all "Journals de Mickey" in which Peter Pan appeared. Except for one or two issues the stories are all the newspaper strip.
In the early 1960s I cut out the Christmas story from the papers myself. It is lovely.
But the Paperiade is unknown to me and the drawings are great. Thanks!
For a decade or two I read "Topolino"avidly but later on it was no longer distributed in my country. It has gone down a bit I heard...
But my thanks to make inducks a bit easier to explore. And you were right to point out that there are four adaptions of Peter Pan -which I already suspected- and that the British is the fifth- which I learned the hard way...
I have an overlarge collection of my own, you see.
Also I am hyper-critical of info and -maybe foolishly- tend to learn it the hard way..
The UK comic is settled for now. The seller recanted but I have no idea what went wrong. 9 days is far too long without communication.
I always ask whether the seller can deliver abroad and besides have several friends in other countries who can help me out if the seller does not want to..
Also, I have the very same UK comic in Dutch but that is not my favourite language (my mother's family is English speaking).
In fact I did use the inducks info to buy all "Journals de Mickey" in which Peter Pan appeared. Except for one or two issues the stories are all the newspaper strip.
In the early 1960s I cut out the Christmas story from the papers myself. It is lovely.
But the Paperiade is unknown to me and the drawings are great. Thanks!
For a decade or two I read "Topolino"avidly but later on it was no longer distributed in my country. It has gone down a bit I heard...
But my thanks to make inducks a bit easier to explore. And you were right to point out that there are four adaptions of Peter Pan -which I already suspected- and that the British is the fifth- which I learned the hard way...
Jehanbosch
Peter Pan
Message 19 -
2014-08-19 at 22:10:27
I made an error. My brother must have cut out the newspaper pages for me.
Mr. M
Peter Pan
Message 20 -
2014-08-21 at 05:50:48
I know it's a bit of topic but two days ago I've seen "The Pirate Fairy" movie (part of Disney's Tinker Bell CGI franchise) Not only is the best one of the series - the story is pretty clever (I found character Zarina pretty complex villian for a kids film), actions sequences are fun and most of the gag's are very funny as well - but there are plenty of great homages to Disney's "Peter Pan" movie. In fact it's a bit of a prequel.
Of all the Tinker Bell movies (the other films where cute but they where mostly for younger kids) this is one in my opinion is honestly worth checking out, especialy for Disneys Peter Pan fans. Other films felt more like hour and half TV specials, this one actually felt like a movie.
==SPOILERS===
...
Young Captian Hook is one of the villians and we get to see the orgin of the Tick-Tock the crockodile.
Of all the Tinker Bell movies (the other films where cute but they where mostly for younger kids) this is one in my opinion is honestly worth checking out, especialy for Disneys Peter Pan fans. Other films felt more like hour and half TV specials, this one actually felt like a movie.
==SPOILERS===
...
Young Captian Hook is one of the villians and we get to see the orgin of the Tick-Tock the crockodile.
Jehanbosch
Peter Pan
Message 21 -
2014-08-21 at 15:22:51
Thanks for the tip! I am familiar with the Tinkerbell movies; I have seen three so far and bought the first two. My opinion is about the same as yours. And I read a review of "The Pirate Fairy". (I am sharing this hobby with my niece. That is why I have some other franchise too.)
However, I partake of the opinion of other Peter Pan purists. In Barrie's original "Peter Pan" Tinkerbell is described as "rather common". Not a princess! According to tradition fairies have the same class system as humans in history. From the proud kings and queens down to the lowly peasants. Plus fairies often have a mean streak, you can detect that even in Disney's original! Fairies are simply non-human and beyond good and evil, to misquote an old & boring philosopher.
Yesterday evening I dug up a shoebox filled with Gottfreddson newspaper strips of the 1950s. Also included were three Christmas newspaper strips of a later date: one with Maleficent and two with Peter Pan. I suspect all are shortened versions.
The main strip is "Santa Claus in Neverland". Due to a disaster at the North Pole Santa temporarily moves to Neverland. With most of Neverland's inhabitants -including the mermaids!- helping Santa manages to get his presents ready in time. Of course Captain Hook tries to obstruct...
Another strip featuring Peter Pan is the serial "No Puppets for Santa" but in that story many characters from other Disney movies join the fray..
I think I have two more Christmas newspaper strips, glued in an album, with one featuring Peter Pan... Now to locate these....
Also I did read one or two reprints of "Peter Pan's Christmas Story", It is the only Xmas newspaper strip that gained the honour of being reprinted often....
The other strips are almost never reprinted which is a shame! Such beautiful artwork!
However, I partake of the opinion of other Peter Pan purists. In Barrie's original "Peter Pan" Tinkerbell is described as "rather common". Not a princess! According to tradition fairies have the same class system as humans in history. From the proud kings and queens down to the lowly peasants. Plus fairies often have a mean streak, you can detect that even in Disney's original! Fairies are simply non-human and beyond good and evil, to misquote an old & boring philosopher.
Yesterday evening I dug up a shoebox filled with Gottfreddson newspaper strips of the 1950s. Also included were three Christmas newspaper strips of a later date: one with Maleficent and two with Peter Pan. I suspect all are shortened versions.
The main strip is "Santa Claus in Neverland". Due to a disaster at the North Pole Santa temporarily moves to Neverland. With most of Neverland's inhabitants -including the mermaids!- helping Santa manages to get his presents ready in time. Of course Captain Hook tries to obstruct...
Another strip featuring Peter Pan is the serial "No Puppets for Santa" but in that story many characters from other Disney movies join the fray..
I think I have two more Christmas newspaper strips, glued in an album, with one featuring Peter Pan... Now to locate these....
Also I did read one or two reprints of "Peter Pan's Christmas Story", It is the only Xmas newspaper strip that gained the honour of being reprinted often....
The other strips are almost never reprinted which is a shame! Such beautiful artwork!
Mr. M
Peter Pan
Message 22 -
2014-08-21 at 16:07:20
Quote from user: jehanboschHowever, I partake of the opinion of other Peter Pan purists. In Barrie's original "Peter Pan" Tinkerbell is described as "rather common". Not a princess!
Errrr... At what point the movies made Tinkerbell a Princess?
She's a Tinker, which is are more-less the fairy workig class (that's as far from royalty as it gets), in fact The entire plot of the first movie is that Tinkerbelle I ashamed of being a tinker but she learns to be pround of it. And the faries serve a queen named Clarion...I've seen all five movies and I don't recal Tink being a princess in any way...
Or is this the same case as with with Mulan? (they refrence her as a princess in all of the merchandising but she isn't made a princess in anyway in the actuall movie or the sequel)
Errrr... At what point the movies made Tinkerbell a Princess?
She's a Tinker, which is are more-less the fairy workig class (that's as far from royalty as it gets), in fact The entire plot of the first movie is that Tinkerbelle I ashamed of being a tinker but she learns to be pround of it. And the faries serve a queen named Clarion...I've seen all five movies and I don't recal Tink being a princess in any way...
Or is this the same case as with with Mulan? (they refrence her as a princess in all of the merchandising but she isn't made a princess in anyway in the actuall movie or the sequel)
Jehanbosch
Peter Pan
Message 23 -
2014-08-21 at 18:48:23
In the merchandising Tinkerbell is made into sort of a princess. I have seen only three of the T.movies as far as I recall... She is not even a noblewoman...
So sorry not to pay more attention but the whole Fairies are clearly marketed for girls and I was a boy..
I am not sure of Mulan. Is not her father a kind of nobleman? But indeed, Mulan is not a princess either.
So sorry not to pay more attention but the whole Fairies are clearly marketed for girls and I was a boy..
I am not sure of Mulan. Is not her father a kind of nobleman? But indeed, Mulan is not a princess either.
Mr. M
Peter Pan
Message 24 -
2014-08-21 at 21:13:01
As a person who admire when shows/movies for children actually puts some effort and presents intelligent and progresive concent, I think it's great that Tinkerbell is a a blue-collar girl who enjoyes to construct machines and I love that while she dosen't have magical powers like the other faires, the fact shes smart and can tinker is treated as a magical power by the rest of the faires and adimre by them. That's both a great role model for little girls (waaaaay better then another princess) and a great message ("being smart and hard working is gift as good as having magical power and can be fun") I will honesty hate if they woud did the "My Little pony" thing and have a movie where Queen Clarion declares Tinkerbell a princess for all the times she saved Pixie Hallow... (and she will grow extra wings or something so they could sell more toys...)
And yes, I know oryginal Tinkerbell was no role-model but since this takes place years beafore she meet Peter I can give it a pass...
Quote from user: jehanboschI am not sure of Mulan. Is not her father a kind of nobleman?
Here father is a famuse warrior but not royalty.
And yes, I know oryginal Tinkerbell was no role-model but since this takes place years beafore she meet Peter I can give it a pass...
Quote from user: jehanboschI am not sure of Mulan. Is not her father a kind of nobleman?
Here father is a famuse warrior but not royalty.
Jehanbosch
Peter Pan
Message 25 -
2014-08-21 at 23:15:43
I do agree upon your idea of Tinkerbell as a role model for blue-collar girls.
Although I am no expert I think most of the Disney princesses do pretty well too.
But you have to take into account the traditions on fairies and they are elves, Sidhe, or whatever and not exactly role models.
I have gotten as far as reading Katherine Briggs' serious studies on fairies and their behaviour is not exemplary..
And sir James Barrie followed these traditions a great deal more than one would expect. After all Barrie was a Scotsman... Neverland is a sort of Avalon in disguise..
And even in Disney's "Peter Pan"of 1953 some of these ideas are still seeping through.
It is the same with the mermaids of Peter Pan; they are not human either and akin to fairies.
A famous warrior in China would be counted among the nobility; I have an interest in China's last dynasty and read on it too. So Mulan is a noblewoman but no royalty..
Although I am no expert I think most of the Disney princesses do pretty well too.
But you have to take into account the traditions on fairies and they are elves, Sidhe, or whatever and not exactly role models.
I have gotten as far as reading Katherine Briggs' serious studies on fairies and their behaviour is not exemplary..
And sir James Barrie followed these traditions a great deal more than one would expect. After all Barrie was a Scotsman... Neverland is a sort of Avalon in disguise..
And even in Disney's "Peter Pan"of 1953 some of these ideas are still seeping through.
It is the same with the mermaids of Peter Pan; they are not human either and akin to fairies.
A famous warrior in China would be counted among the nobility; I have an interest in China's last dynasty and read on it too. So Mulan is a noblewoman but no royalty..
Jehanbosch
Peter Pan
Message 26 -
2014-08-23 at 17:29:13
Well FAa. The second copy of the 1953 Mickey Mouse Weekly you so kindly shew to us appears to be the famous coronation issue. Not that rare but presently on EBay for a ridiculous amount of money..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221529586150?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
In the meantime, when plowing through all the comics devoted to Peter Pan and registered on this website I came upon a French comic I had forgotten entirely:
The booklet with the record "Peter Pan et le Grand Chef" See:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281413010774?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
While the cover of this item is breathtakingly well drawn the 5 page comic is not that well made. It is a free rendering of the incidents of the movie between Tink's banishment and Tiger Lily's triumphant return to her father, the Grand Chef. Somehow, the Lost Boys are left out entirely.
Personally I think the Native Americans and their Chief have been far better dealt with in some other colourful Disney publications in the Peter Pan vein:
However, these are not comic books but picture books...!!!
Firstly there exists a charming German booklet, "Die verschwundene Friedenspfeife", in which the Lost Boys hijack the peace pipe of the Native Americans and have to smoke the pipe as a punishment. A fitting reward... Well drawn too; see
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111438238603?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Secondly there is an even better Little Golden Book, called "Peter Pan and the Indians". My own copy is still with a friend in the States but I do have the French edition, "Peter Pan et les Indiens". The delightful cover of the French version is not the same as the American original but the contents contain the same beautiful illustrations. See:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261491205716?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I do know some people do not like Disney's portrayal of the Native Americans but few people could object to these books...
By the way, the list of comic books on Peter Pan on this site is not completely complete but how could it be? There are so very many..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221529586150?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
In the meantime, when plowing through all the comics devoted to Peter Pan and registered on this website I came upon a French comic I had forgotten entirely:
The booklet with the record "Peter Pan et le Grand Chef" See:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281413010774?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
While the cover of this item is breathtakingly well drawn the 5 page comic is not that well made. It is a free rendering of the incidents of the movie between Tink's banishment and Tiger Lily's triumphant return to her father, the Grand Chef. Somehow, the Lost Boys are left out entirely.
Personally I think the Native Americans and their Chief have been far better dealt with in some other colourful Disney publications in the Peter Pan vein:
However, these are not comic books but picture books...!!!
Firstly there exists a charming German booklet, "Die verschwundene Friedenspfeife", in which the Lost Boys hijack the peace pipe of the Native Americans and have to smoke the pipe as a punishment. A fitting reward... Well drawn too; see
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111438238603?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Secondly there is an even better Little Golden Book, called "Peter Pan and the Indians". My own copy is still with a friend in the States but I do have the French edition, "Peter Pan et les Indiens". The delightful cover of the French version is not the same as the American original but the contents contain the same beautiful illustrations. See:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261491205716?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I do know some people do not like Disney's portrayal of the Native Americans but few people could object to these books...
By the way, the list of comic books on Peter Pan on this site is not completely complete but how could it be? There are so very many..
Jehanbosch
Peter Pan
Message 27 -
2014-08-30 at 19:46:43
In the meantime an Italian book arrived which reprints each and every Disney Christmas newspaper strip which appeared from 1960 till 1987. The book is called "Walt Disney Storie di Natale" and was (re-)printed around 2001 by Disney Italia. It has been indexed on this site and is apparently volume 1. (A volume 2 exists as well but it has not been indexed and I know almost nothing about it.)
Anyhow volume 1 reprints faithfully all strips in unabridged form and -regretfully- in black & white.
Included are "Peter Pan's Christmas Story" (1960), "Santa Claus in Neverland"(1968), "No Puppets for Santa" (1977) and "Christmas comes to Neverland"(1983), each featuring Peter Pan. All wonderful stories.
This "Storie di Natale" book supercedes two previous publications of the 1980s. See
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201121958703?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Anyhow volume 1 reprints faithfully all strips in unabridged form and -regretfully- in black & white.
Included are "Peter Pan's Christmas Story" (1960), "Santa Claus in Neverland"(1968), "No Puppets for Santa" (1977) and "Christmas comes to Neverland"(1983), each featuring Peter Pan. All wonderful stories.
This "Storie di Natale" book supercedes two previous publications of the 1980s. See
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201121958703?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Federico
Peter Pan
Message 28 -
2014-08-30 at 23:07:28
Are you sure there's a volume 2? The Disney Christmas Story series ran from 1960 to 1987, so that book includes every Christmas Story. A similar series (titled Disney Holiday Story) started in 1992 and ended in 1997 but as far as I know it was never published in Italy.
Oh and for the sake of completeness a Norwegian newspaper published a Donald story every Christmas from 2005 until 2008
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=D%2FD+2005-029
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=D%2FD+2006-018
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=D%2FD+2007-023
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=D%2FD+2008-003
Oh and for the sake of completeness a Norwegian newspaper published a Donald story every Christmas from 2005 until 2008
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=D%2FD+2005-029
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=D%2FD+2006-018
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=D%2FD+2007-023
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=D%2FD+2008-003
Jehanbosch
Peter Pan
Message 29 -
2014-09-01 at 21:54:41
Hi I am an university schooled librarian -among other things- and know the dangers of describing a book I have not even seen.
So I can not be a 100 percent sure.
Nevertheless according to inducks the book in my hands is expressly described as VOLUME 1, ONE .
Also, on Italian EBay is a book for sale that fits the description of volume 2 to the letter..
I have it on my wantslist but am too much occupied with the British Peter Pan strips at the moment.
What is in volume 2? I do not know, as it is not registered on inducks nor are the contents listed in the ad on EBay.
However, please do not confuse these books with the earlier publications in the 1980s as New Comics.
New Comics 1 + 2 = my book.
I hope to put some links on this forum at a later date but right now I am dogtired and it is nearly midnight.
Had a rough day in the hospital... Best, J.
So I can not be a 100 percent sure.
Nevertheless according to inducks the book in my hands is expressly described as VOLUME 1, ONE .
Also, on Italian EBay is a book for sale that fits the description of volume 2 to the letter..
I have it on my wantslist but am too much occupied with the British Peter Pan strips at the moment.
What is in volume 2? I do not know, as it is not registered on inducks nor are the contents listed in the ad on EBay.
However, please do not confuse these books with the earlier publications in the 1980s as New Comics.
New Comics 1 + 2 = my book.
I hope to put some links on this forum at a later date but right now I am dogtired and it is nearly midnight.
Had a rough day in the hospital... Best, J.
Jehanbosch
Peter Pan
Message 30 -
2014-09-01 at 22:22:14
Well, I do not have to worry about volume 2 anymore; it was just sold, under my very nose!