It's all about the story. Nice artwork helps but without a good story it's meaningless.
Patrick Hanifin
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www.SqueakyCleanComedy.com
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Patrick Hanifin
It's all about the story.
Message 1 -
2013-05-01 at 02:12:00
Richie
It's all about the story.
Message 2 -
2013-05-01 at 03:37:32
Visuals hold more power than one'd think, but I definitely agree with the notion that the story itself is the most important part.
Review Or Die
It's all about the story.
Message 3 -
2013-05-01 at 03:57:07
A really great script can be ruined by bad art, but it can also transcend itself through good art. But good art can elevate a mediocre, or downright stupid, story and make it in to something worth reading.
Comics are a visual medium, and it means that the story is told through the art. This is a cooperative effort between the writer and artist, each serving and enhancing different parts of the story synergistically.
I'm still not sure why you made this topic without any context though.
Comics are a visual medium, and it means that the story is told through the art. This is a cooperative effort between the writer and artist, each serving and enhancing different parts of the story synergistically.
I'm still not sure why you made this topic without any context though.
Robb_K
It's all about the story.
Message 4 -
2013-05-01 at 04:50:21
I have a VERY hard time wading through a comic story if the art is poor. I have no trouble reading boring and pointless stories if the drawing is nice. I've seen many decently-written stories ruined by poor-quality drawing. Whereas, I'd rather read the Grandma Duck's Farm Friends and Daisy Duck's Diary stories drawn (but not written) by Carl Barks, than any story drawn by almost all ComicUp studio artists, even if the story is written by a great scenarist like Jan Kruse.
GeoX
It's all about the story.
Message 5 -
2013-05-01 at 04:54:58
I do think people tend not to quite realize how important the art is to one's enjoyment. It's no coincidence that the stories Bob Gregory wrote that Barks drew are uniformly better than anything he wrote that anyone else drew. Also, those Jan Kruse stories that Rosa worked on would be totally unmemorable if not for the art.
Review Or Die
It's all about the story.
Message 6 -
2013-05-01 at 05:51:03
Quote from user: GeoXI do think people tend not to quite realize how important the art is to one's enjoyment. It's no coincidence that the stories Bob Gregory wrote that Barks drew are uniformly better than anything he wrote that anyone else drew. Also, those Jan Kruse stories that Rosa worked on would be totally unmemorable if not for the art.
Definitely. And for the reverse of that Kruse/Rosa dynamic, check out "Back in Time for a Dime". A perfectly serviceable story that's just completely ruined by incompetent art. Yeesh.
Definitely. And for the reverse of that Kruse/Rosa dynamic, check out "Back in Time for a Dime". A perfectly serviceable story that's just completely ruined by incompetent art. Yeesh.
Roger North
It's all about the story.
Message 7 -
2013-05-01 at 11:41:38
I don't know I happen to think it's a pretty good story for what it is. I have that story in Duck Tales Magazine #8 and in Uncle Scrooge #369.
Mr. M
It's all about the story.
Message 8 -
2013-05-01 at 12:01:05
I think you need both. Great art wit weak script makes the whole thing shalow, and great script with terrible art makes whole thing hard to read
Patrick Hanifin
It's all about the story.
Message 9 -
2013-05-01 at 15:57:52
Both great art and a really good story together are obviously the best. However, personally, I would prefer to read a Carl Barks written Junior Woodchucks story drawn by Kay Wright than I would a Daisy Duck Diary story only drawn by Carl Barks. Though better yet if that Kay Wright Carl Barks Junior Woodchuck story was redrawn by Daan Jippes in the Carl Barks style.
Even the exceptional cover usually tells a story such as Only a Poor Old Man, Sheriff of Bullet Valley, or Donald and the nephews fragilely perched on a wave in the sailboat cover (WDCS 108).
A specific example is Walt Disney's Donald Duck Adventures 18. Personally, I'm not a big fan of the artwork in this story. (Little things like hands not looking realistic bother me.) However, the lead story, THAT, OL SOFT SOAP! by Michael T. Gilbert is absolutely hilarious and I've read it many times. For me, the story comes first.
Patrick Hanifin
www.PatrickHanifin.com
www.SqueakyCleanComedy.com
Even the exceptional cover usually tells a story such as Only a Poor Old Man, Sheriff of Bullet Valley, or Donald and the nephews fragilely perched on a wave in the sailboat cover (WDCS 108).
A specific example is Walt Disney's Donald Duck Adventures 18. Personally, I'm not a big fan of the artwork in this story. (Little things like hands not looking realistic bother me.) However, the lead story, THAT, OL SOFT SOAP! by Michael T. Gilbert is absolutely hilarious and I've read it many times. For me, the story comes first.
Patrick Hanifin
www.PatrickHanifin.com
www.SqueakyCleanComedy.com
Don Rosa Is The Best
It's all about the story.
Message 10 -
2013-05-01 at 19:12:52
I think the story is all that matters.
Review Or Die
It's all about the story.
Message 11 -
2013-05-01 at 21:55:40
Quote from user: Roger NorthI don't know I happen to think it's a pretty good story for what it is. I have that story in Duck Tales Magazine #8 and in Uncle Scrooge #369.
Reading it, I felt it was one of the most incompetent artistic modern efforts I'd ever seen in Disney. The drawings weren't funny, it was badly staged, and as has been pointed out by Rosa himself, either the artist or editor were too incompetent to follow the script.
I fail to see why "black and white" is a thing to follow here, and if I'm the one arguing for moderation, then I'm pretty sure that everything that could possibly BE wrong, is.
Reading it, I felt it was one of the most incompetent artistic modern efforts I'd ever seen in Disney. The drawings weren't funny, it was badly staged, and as has been pointed out by Rosa himself, either the artist or editor were too incompetent to follow the script.
I fail to see why "black and white" is a thing to follow here, and if I'm the one arguing for moderation, then I'm pretty sure that everything that could possibly BE wrong, is.
GeoX
It's all about the story.
Message 12 -
2013-05-01 at 23:00:55
This idea that you can completely decouple art and story is bizarre. The two may take on different relative levels of importance in different stories, but comics are a visual medium, and they should be evaluated as such. I find the notion that the visual side is irrelevant or, at best, a nice but non-essential embellishment to be incredibly misbegotten. If all you care about is the text on the page, I have no idea why you're reading comics at all, since plain ol' prose will provide you with far richer stories than any denuded comic-book script.
Roger North
It's all about the story.
Message 13 -
2013-05-05 at 11:17:24
Quote from user: Review Or DieQuote from user: Roger NorthI don't know I happen to think it's a pretty good story for what it is. I have that story in Duck Tales Magazine #8 and in Uncle Scrooge #369.
Reading it, I felt it was one of the most incompetent artistic modern efforts I'd ever seen in Disney. The drawings weren't funny, it was badly staged, and as has been pointed out by Rosa himself, either the artist or editor were too incompetent to follow the script.
I fail to see why "black and white" is a thing to follow here, and if I'm the one arguing for moderation, then I'm pretty sure that everything that could possibly BE wrong, is.
Well That's your opinion. I happen to like that story. Yeah there are other stories that might be better but this one is relatively good despite the fact that it wasn't very memorable. This is the one story that Don Rosa contributed to without drawing it himself. He provided the script for the story. It is also the first time Bubba the Caveduck appeared in a comic.
Reading it, I felt it was one of the most incompetent artistic modern efforts I'd ever seen in Disney. The drawings weren't funny, it was badly staged, and as has been pointed out by Rosa himself, either the artist or editor were too incompetent to follow the script.
I fail to see why "black and white" is a thing to follow here, and if I'm the one arguing for moderation, then I'm pretty sure that everything that could possibly BE wrong, is.
Well That's your opinion. I happen to like that story. Yeah there are other stories that might be better but this one is relatively good despite the fact that it wasn't very memorable. This is the one story that Don Rosa contributed to without drawing it himself. He provided the script for the story. It is also the first time Bubba the Caveduck appeared in a comic.
Review Or Die
It's all about the story.
Message 14 -
2013-05-05 at 16:41:10
Quote from user: Roger NorthQuote from user: Review Or DieQuote from user: Roger NorthI don't know I happen to think it's a pretty good story for what it is. I have that story in Duck Tales Magazine #8 and in Uncle Scrooge #369.
Reading it, I felt it was one of the most incompetent artistic modern efforts I'd ever seen in Disney. The drawings weren't funny, it was badly staged, and as has been pointed out by Rosa himself, either the artist or editor were too incompetent to follow the script.
I fail to see why "black and white" is a thing to follow here, and if I'm the one arguing for moderation, then I'm pretty sure that everything that could possibly BE wrong, is.
Well That's your opinion. I happen to like that story. Yeah there are other stories that might be better but this one is relatively good despite the fact that it wasn't very memorable. This is the one story that Don Rosa contributed to without drawing it himself. He provided the script for the story. It is also the first time Bubba the Caveduck appeared in a comic.
I know it's my opinion: That's why I said it, and used the 'I' statements.
But please don't confuse "interesting from a historical perspective" with quality, because those two things you mentioned aren't indicative, for good or bad, of its quality. I didn't know that last one about Bubba though, that's kind of funny.
Reading it, I felt it was one of the most incompetent artistic modern efforts I'd ever seen in Disney. The drawings weren't funny, it was badly staged, and as has been pointed out by Rosa himself, either the artist or editor were too incompetent to follow the script.
I fail to see why "black and white" is a thing to follow here, and if I'm the one arguing for moderation, then I'm pretty sure that everything that could possibly BE wrong, is.
Well That's your opinion. I happen to like that story. Yeah there are other stories that might be better but this one is relatively good despite the fact that it wasn't very memorable. This is the one story that Don Rosa contributed to without drawing it himself. He provided the script for the story. It is also the first time Bubba the Caveduck appeared in a comic.
I know it's my opinion: That's why I said it, and used the 'I' statements.
But please don't confuse "interesting from a historical perspective" with quality, because those two things you mentioned aren't indicative, for good or bad, of its quality. I didn't know that last one about Bubba though, that's kind of funny.
Baar Baar Jinx
It's all about the story.
Message 15 -
2013-05-05 at 19:31:01
Quote from user: Review Or DieI didn't know that last one about Bubba though, that's kind of funny.
Wow! Don Rosa introduced Bubba the Caveduck to comics! I wonder if he considers that a highlight of his career?
Wow! Don Rosa introduced Bubba the Caveduck to comics! I wonder if he considers that a highlight of his career?
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