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Topic: Swedish extra books of Carl Barks Samlade verk?

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Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Quote from user: Charlie BrownQuote from user: Gerd SyllwasschyQuote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down Underyou'd only have to translate
They wouldn't have to translate a thing. Geoff Blum wrote his texts in English.

As I understand layout is also done. So Fantagraphics must "just" do the printing and distributing.

Well, they'd need to English texts in and maybe translate some things that weren't by Geoff Blum (the cover, for example). Basically a one-man job. Soooo, Fantagraphics... do you want to be even more awesome than you already are?

But seriously, it can't be this easy. I know not much of publishing, but surely we're missing something. Does this cover their Disney license? Is it economically feasible now that the Scandinavians and Germans (surely a large part of the audience) have already got the books? Or do I just mail Fantagraphics and say "make this work" and they say "that's not a bad idea" and it's in store by next year summer? Because if that would have any chance of success, I would absolutely try it. Barks' oil paintings are awesome and the Fine Art book costs a fortune. Well, maybe it didn't in 1981, but by now it does.

About the Fine Art book - is there somebody who has it and can tell me something about it? Is the printing quality good/better than this one? What's good about it? What's bad about it? It was one of the first luxury books of comic characters, wasn't it?
GeoX
It would be nice, but honestly, I think an art book costing several hundred dollars would be a pretty tough sell in the US market. Fantagraphics is great and all, but actual comics surely have a much greater appeal than than paintings. It's hard for me to imagine a book like this selling to anyone but the hardest of the hardcore, which is substantially fewer people in the US than it is in Europe.
Arild
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderAbout the Fine Art book - is there somebody who has it and can tell me something about it? Is the printing quality good/better than this one? What's good about it? What's bad about it? It was one of the first luxury books of comic characters, wasn't it?
I have both The Fine Art... and the Norwegian book.
The paper seems a bit thicker in the Fine Art book, and the best part is the "fold-out" pages.
The wide format of the book is also positive. And it smells a little bit more exclusive :) (If it comes from a pet and smoke free home :D)
Another plus is the Carl Barks signature.

Negative: It doesn't include all the paintings.

The Norwegian (and the others) edition has more information and text.

I bought my copy of The Fine Art... on eBay.
Got it "cheap". The seller had 0 - zero - feedback. Maybe that's why there were few interested buyers.
But I took a chance. Made an offer. Glad I did :)
Hedberg
Fine Art has 122 oil-paintings (from 1971 to 1976 as I recall it) whereas the Norwegian Edition stretches from 1971 to 1996. Also included is Barks' work with oil pencils on paper, watercolor on paper and several pencil sketches.
Besides that, several of the non-Disney birds...

I bought my "Fine Art" in 1981 from Bruce and Russ at the price of 150$
The sellers had 0 - zero - feedback, neither!
;)
Patrick Hanifin
On several occasions I have owned the Fine Arts book but I always ended up selling it. Sometimes when you need money it's hard to justify having a $1000 plus book sitting there. I think once was when I was moving and had expenses and once was to buy a piece of original Carl Barks' art.

The foldouts are great but knowing how valuable the book had become made me have to be overly careful enjoying it. If an English book comes out I would like to actually get 2 copies. One to keep pristine and one that I could just grab, not worry about and share with friends.

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Coolwater
An English-language version of the book would not only be bought in the USA but in the whole Barksosphere--maybe there would be even more buyers for it in Europe than in the US. And probably also in Scandinavia and Germany some crackpots who happily own their national editions of the book would buy the English version if it will come out one day. I guess you can count on me. When it's about that stuff I always get weak.
Hedberg
Then we're two crackpots!
Arild
Quote from user: CoolwaterAnd probably also in Scandinavia and Germany some crackpots who happily own their national editions of the book would buy the English version if it will come out one day.
I don't think there will be a lot. It's an expensive book.
It's not like having a comic in it's original language. Eg. having both the Norwegian and the American version of the Carl Barks library.
With all respect to Geoffrey Blum, but I don't think his original text is much more interesting than the translated one. It's not like we will loose any gags or jokes in translation.
Robb_K
Quote from user: ArildQuote from user: CoolwaterAnd probably also in Scandinavia and Germany some crackpots who happily own their national editions of the book would buy the English version if it will come out one day.
I don't think there will be a lot. It's an expensive book.
It's not like having a comic in it's original language. Eg. having both the Norwegian and the American version of the Carl Barks library.
With all respect to Geoffrey Blum, but I don't think his original text is much more interesting than the translated one. It's not like we will loose any gags or jokes in translation.

I know a lot of Europeans who would buy both versions, if an English language version were also published. I suspect that non-US sales might well exceed US sales, of such a book.
Arild
Quote from user: Robb_KI suspect that non-US sales might well exceed US sales, of such a book.
That wouldn't surprise me at all.
The sales of Scrooge and Donald comics in the States has been very low lately. And now there are no comics at all.

I'm pretty sure that very few Norwegians will buy a book that's 100 % equal to a book that they already have. The price for the Norwegian book is $175.
When the Norwegian edition of Carl Barks Library (Carl Barks Samlede Verk, CBSV) was published in Norway you could get the CBL cheap on the second-hand market in Norway. Most Norwegians prefer to read Donald Duck in their native language.
CBSV was sold out. The series with the Carl Barks paintings had a lower circulation number, and it's still not sold out.
So I really don't believe that the sale of an English edition will be "a lot" in Norway.

I guess that some Norwegians that don't have the Norwegian version will buy it. (Because you don't have to subscribe to other CB books to get it.)
Piskito72
I don't understand how this kind of book isn't published in USA, the homeland of the master himself; I'll keep my fingers crossed...
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