Hi ev'rybody, I'm writing possible histories of life of Flintheart Glomgold, Scrooge McDuck, Donald Duck and nextly John D. Rockerduck, and I hope to propose all them to you...
FLINTHEART GLOMGOLD
"A POSSIBLE HISTORY OF LIFE"
BY WALT ZUTI
Flintheart Glomgold is born in 1870ca. (Lo$), in Scotland.
Family Glomgold is a modest family of humble workers, Grandpa Glomgold (Stoneheart) was a taxi-driver in Ol' London (D 5952).
Flintheart's parents don't send him in the kindergarten (D 91340), to save money.
So, mother and father Glomgold teach him as Englishmen do wth their sons.
Flintheart is a very intelligent boy and soon he becomes a champion of Novgotch, an I.Q. game (D 91340).
When Flintheart is 20s, he decides to move into mother's natal land, so he goes in Africa.
In 1886, he knows a certainly Scrooge McDuck, to which he makes jokes (Lo$).
In that period, Fintheart is an oxen and diamond robber.
In early 1900's, Flintheart return in Scotland and works for Amos Plunkett, who'll let his emporium to Scrooge (D 91210).
Flintheart, after Scrooge's took the emporium, returns in Africa, where becomes a mine-owner (W US 15-02).
Flintheart and Scrooge don't remember each-others, 'cause they're affected by "Blinkus of the Thinkus", a mild form of amnesia (W OS 456-02).
In 1951, Scrooge re-meets Glomgold (W US 15-02) in South-Africa and then, in 1953, Flintheart moves to Duckburg and shows his Scottish Origins (Ducktales)
FIN
What do you think? I hope you've enjoyed
- Walt Zuti
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Sim
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
Message 1 -
2010-07-15 at 07:18:10
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
Message 2 -
2010-07-15 at 11:14:23
W US 15-02 was published in 1956, not 1951.
Roger North
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
Message 3 -
2010-07-15 at 11:50:04
I think it's interesting that you consider the Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge comic book universe and the Duck Tales universe to be pretty much the same.
Sim
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
Message 4 -
2010-07-15 at 12:09:23
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderW US 15-02 was published in 1956, not 1951.
I know, but I think it's setted in 1951.
I think Ducks and Ducktales Universes the same, by a certainly point...
In my opinion, Launchpad McQuack DOES exist, Beagles ARE sons of Ma' Beagle, but they are NOT different one by one, Launchpad is NOT another Donald Duck etc. ...
Yes, I think they can co-exist.
I know, but I think it's setted in 1951.
I think Ducks and Ducktales Universes the same, by a certainly point...
In my opinion, Launchpad McQuack DOES exist, Beagles ARE sons of Ma' Beagle, but they are NOT different one by one, Launchpad is NOT another Donald Duck etc. ...
Yes, I think they can co-exist.
Quackberg
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
Message 5 -
2010-07-16 at 11:26:06
I don't really agree that Flintheart was born in Scotland but instead was born in South Africa and that is his primary home, although I do think that he has Scottish relatives. I can agree on the rest, except the last part about DuckTales - which I have never considered as canon.
SalemaRu
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
Message 6 -
2012-09-26 at 12:58:30
I am not really agree that Flintheart was born in Scotland too. I think he is from Great Britain from his father's line and have a relatives in England and Scotland. But in my personal theory he is a boer and was born in South Africa in 60x years of XIX century. I image his family like farmers - may be his mother have a farm like dowry or something. And he could have some siblings (brothers and sisters like mother of Slackjaw) he don't have any relationship with for now.
Mr. M
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
Message 7 -
2012-09-26 at 16:58:13
DuckTales never specyficaly say Glomgold was scotish... he just dress like stereotypical Scott ;)
BTW-> I know this is a bit out of topic but there is a strange (for Disney comics) joke in Polish translation Lo$ chapter 6 when Scrooge meet Glomgold for the first time :
Glomgold - I'm a boer.
Scrooge - Strange, I asume all natvies are black
Scrooge (thinks) - I must check up on that...
(In orygnal version Scrooge asume boer = boring and say to himself it will be long trip)
BTW-> I know this is a bit out of topic but there is a strange (for Disney comics) joke in Polish translation Lo$ chapter 6 when Scrooge meet Glomgold for the first time :
Glomgold - I'm a boer.
Scrooge - Strange, I asume all natvies are black
Scrooge (thinks) - I must check up on that...
(In orygnal version Scrooge asume boer = boring and say to himself it will be long trip)
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
Message 8 -
2012-09-26 at 18:44:39
I never understood the joke in the Dutch version.
Glomgold: "I'm a travelling farmer!"
Scrooge: "Ah, really?"
Scrooge (thinking): "Strange professions they have here!"
Glomgold: "I'm a travelling farmer!"
Scrooge: "Ah, really?"
Scrooge (thinking): "Strange professions they have here!"
Robb_K
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
Message 9 -
2012-09-26 at 18:55:19
He also dressed like a stereotypical SCOT! I doubt that there is a typical Scott. Most of the Scotts I know are extremely unique individuals.
I'd wager that Flintheart Glomgold was born and raised in South Africa, the son of British colonials (from Scotland). I'd also guess that he was NOT a Boer, as the Boers were mainly Dutch colonists and a small percentage of French Huganots and displaced German farming families. They spoke 17th century Dutch language, which eventually was split off from standard Dutch, to become the new language, Afrikaans. It is possible that a few Scots dissidents were Afrikaners, but, the odds are that a Scots family in South Africa came there as a British colonist.
"Glomgold - I'm a boer.
Scrooge - Strange, I asume all natvies are black
Scrooge (thinks) - I must check up on that..."
I assume that this dialog only exists in the Polish version, as it is not even slightly funny in English, and may even be insulting to The Native Africans, or any of The Boers who are still racist in their thinking. It would be too politically sensitive to use in the English(Worldwide) versions, or Dutch versions(also sold in South Africa).
I'd wager that Flintheart Glomgold was born and raised in South Africa, the son of British colonials (from Scotland). I'd also guess that he was NOT a Boer, as the Boers were mainly Dutch colonists and a small percentage of French Huganots and displaced German farming families. They spoke 17th century Dutch language, which eventually was split off from standard Dutch, to become the new language, Afrikaans. It is possible that a few Scots dissidents were Afrikaners, but, the odds are that a Scots family in South Africa came there as a British colonist.
"Glomgold - I'm a boer.
Scrooge - Strange, I asume all natvies are black
Scrooge (thinks) - I must check up on that..."
I assume that this dialog only exists in the Polish version, as it is not even slightly funny in English, and may even be insulting to The Native Africans, or any of The Boers who are still racist in their thinking. It would be too politically sensitive to use in the English(Worldwide) versions, or Dutch versions(also sold in South Africa).
Mr. M
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
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2012-09-27 at 01:41:40
I just think it's VERY off-character for Disney comic to even bring-up race in dialog but I'm happy to know it was something that only exsist in Polish translation
Kimba_1962
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
Message 11 -
2012-09-27 at 16:08:39
Sim's timeline is actually quite tenable. I have no problem with the idea that Glomgold was a Scot who went to South Africa, rather than the Klondike, to make his fortune, and later moved to Duckburg to keep closer tabs on his rival Scrooge.
Robb_K
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
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2012-09-27 at 23:50:39
Quote from user: kimba_1962Sim's timeline is actually quite tenable. I have no problem with the idea that Glomgold was a Scot who went to South Africa, rather than the Klondike, to make his fortune, and later moved to Duckburg to keep closer tabs on his rival Scrooge.
Billionaire moguls have headquarters in various parts of The World at the same time. They also have houses in each place. Flintheart Glomgold was supposed (characterised by Barks) to be a carbon copy of Scrooge. Therefore, Glomgold went to South Africa for both the Gold and Diamond strikes, while Scrooge had gone to North America for various adventures in USA, and the Klondike Gold strike in Canada and, later, Alaska. Later on, Glomgold set up a North American headquarters, to compete with (and keep an eye on) Scrooge.
Billionaire moguls have headquarters in various parts of The World at the same time. They also have houses in each place. Flintheart Glomgold was supposed (characterised by Barks) to be a carbon copy of Scrooge. Therefore, Glomgold went to South Africa for both the Gold and Diamond strikes, while Scrooge had gone to North America for various adventures in USA, and the Klondike Gold strike in Canada and, later, Alaska. Later on, Glomgold set up a North American headquarters, to compete with (and keep an eye on) Scrooge.
Monochrome
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
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2012-09-28 at 02:08:09
While I personally don't believe that Glomgold was born in Scotland, I remember reading a comic (I can't remember it's name) where it had Scrooge and Glomgold sharing common ancestors. In the context it was pretty far back, and it was about a plot of land used for golf, but if we take this story as canon, then we can assume that Glomgold had some Scottish ancestry, so it could support that he was born there, but not necessarily.
As for what Scrooge thought in the Polish Life and Times; while I find that really strange and out of place for the comic, I think it would have been plausable for Scrooge to think that given the time frame. People made (and still do) all sort of assumptions before they go to a certain place, especially when the right information would be slow to spread given the speed of communication back in the day. Scrooge's ignorance was unneeded but not unplausible. I guess they were trying to show that but... I think they did it wrong.
As for what Scrooge thought in the Polish Life and Times; while I find that really strange and out of place for the comic, I think it would have been plausable for Scrooge to think that given the time frame. People made (and still do) all sort of assumptions before they go to a certain place, especially when the right information would be slow to spread given the speed of communication back in the day. Scrooge's ignorance was unneeded but not unplausible. I guess they were trying to show that but... I think they did it wrong.
Robb_K
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
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2012-09-28 at 03:54:18
Quote from user: MonochromeWhile I personally don't believe that Glomgold was born in Scotland, I remember reading a comic (I can't remember it's name) where it had Scrooge and Glomgold sharing common ancestors. In the context it was pretty far back, and it was about a plot of land used for golf, but if we take this story as canon, then we can assume that Glomgold had some Scottish ancestry, so it could support that he was born there, but not necessarily.
As for what Scrooge thought in the Polish Life and Times; while I find that really strange and out of place for the comic, I think it would have been plausable for Scrooge to think that given the time frame. People made (and still do) all sort of assumptions before they go to a certain place, especially when the right information would be slow to spread given the speed of communication back in the day. Scrooge's ignorance was unneeded but not unplausible. I guess they were trying to show that but... I think they did it wrong.
I think it VERY implausible that Scrooge could be the World traveler that he was, and not know that The Dutch had colonised South Africa, and The Boers were Caucasian Europeans, and they, together with British Caucasian colonials formed a substantial % of the South African population more than (15%).
I seem to remember some reference to Scrooge having learnt Afrkaans while selling some product to The Boers in South Africa, or while looking for diamonds during the Kimberly strike (I'm reasonably sure it was a Barks story). But, I can't remember if that was in a Dutch or in an English language book.
As for what Scrooge thought in the Polish Life and Times; while I find that really strange and out of place for the comic, I think it would have been plausable for Scrooge to think that given the time frame. People made (and still do) all sort of assumptions before they go to a certain place, especially when the right information would be slow to spread given the speed of communication back in the day. Scrooge's ignorance was unneeded but not unplausible. I guess they were trying to show that but... I think they did it wrong.
I think it VERY implausible that Scrooge could be the World traveler that he was, and not know that The Dutch had colonised South Africa, and The Boers were Caucasian Europeans, and they, together with British Caucasian colonials formed a substantial % of the South African population more than (15%).
I seem to remember some reference to Scrooge having learnt Afrkaans while selling some product to The Boers in South Africa, or while looking for diamonds during the Kimberly strike (I'm reasonably sure it was a Barks story). But, I can't remember if that was in a Dutch or in an English language book.
Monochrome
Flintheart Glomgold: A Possible History of Life
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2012-09-28 at 04:17:32
Quote from user: Robb_KQuote from user: MonochromeWhile I personally don't believe that Glomgold was born in Scotland, I remember reading a comic (I can't remember it's name) where it had Scrooge and Glomgold sharing common ancestors. In the context it was pretty far back, and it was about a plot of land used for golf, but if we take this story as canon, then we can assume that Glomgold had some Scottish ancestry, so it could support that he was born there, but not necessarily.
As for what Scrooge thought in the Polish Life and Times; while I find that really strange and out of place for the comic, I think it would have been plausable for Scrooge to think that given the time frame. People made (and still do) all sort of assumptions before they go to a certain place, especially when the right information would be slow to spread given the speed of communication back in the day. Scrooge's ignorance was unneeded but not unplausible. I guess they were trying to show that but... I think they did it wrong.
I think it VERY implausible that Scrooge could be the World traveler that he was, and not know that The Dutch had colonised South Africa, and The Boers were Caucasian Europeans, and they, together with British Caucasian colonials formed a substantial % of the South African population more than (15%).
I seem to remember some reference to Scrooge having learnt Afrkaans while selling some product to The Boers in South Africa , or while looking for diamonds during the Kimberly strike. But, I can't remember if that was in a Dutch or in an English language book.
Good point, you would think he would pick on that knowledge at some point or other. However, it could be possible that the knowledge slipped through the cracks somehow. You would think he would have picked up what Glomgold meant by Boer in the English version too (though less likely I have to admit) but he seemingly didn't .
One thing I thought of after the fact that counteracts my thought is that you would have thought that Scrooge would have talked to someone of European descent sometime in Africa before that, whether on the journey or getting supplies or something.
As for what Scrooge thought in the Polish Life and Times; while I find that really strange and out of place for the comic, I think it would have been plausable for Scrooge to think that given the time frame. People made (and still do) all sort of assumptions before they go to a certain place, especially when the right information would be slow to spread given the speed of communication back in the day. Scrooge's ignorance was unneeded but not unplausible. I guess they were trying to show that but... I think they did it wrong.
I think it VERY implausible that Scrooge could be the World traveler that he was, and not know that The Dutch had colonised South Africa, and The Boers were Caucasian Europeans, and they, together with British Caucasian colonials formed a substantial % of the South African population more than (15%).
I seem to remember some reference to Scrooge having learnt Afrkaans while selling some product to The Boers in South Africa , or while looking for diamonds during the Kimberly strike. But, I can't remember if that was in a Dutch or in an English language book.
Good point, you would think he would pick on that knowledge at some point or other. However, it could be possible that the knowledge slipped through the cracks somehow. You would think he would have picked up what Glomgold meant by Boer in the English version too (though less likely I have to admit) but he seemingly didn't .
One thing I thought of after the fact that counteracts my thought is that you would have thought that Scrooge would have talked to someone of European descent sometime in Africa before that, whether on the journey or getting supplies or something.
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