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Topic: Comic production in the U.S.
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Eta Beta
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 1 -
2009-01-02 at 18:52:45
On Inducks are only 5 stories listed from american origin with first publication in 2008. Don't the Disney Studio's produce disney comics nowadays?
JeffT
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 2 -
2009-01-03 at 15:01:51
Not for many years. Gemstone reprints stories from European publications, only translated.
Eta Beta
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 3 -
2009-01-03 at 16:12:54
thanks for your information
Will Barks
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 4 -
2009-01-03 at 21:24:50
Quote from user: JeffTNot for many years. Gemstone reprints stories from European publications, only translated.
Well, translated isn't right on the whole since some European Duck comics are written by British or American authors.
Well, translated isn't right on the whole since some European Duck comics are written by British or American authors.
Robb_K
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 5 -
2009-01-03 at 22:33:24
Quote from user: Will BarksQuote from user: JeffTNot for many years. Gemstone reprints stories from European publications, only translated.
Well, translated isn't right on the whole since some European Duck comics are written by British or American authors.
For the most part, Gladstone re-scripts British, European English scripts (written by non-native English speakers), (and my scripts as well) into "American current colloquial English, so the current youn American children can identify with the the characters' and narrators' way of speaking.
Well, translated isn't right on the whole since some European Duck comics are written by British or American authors.
For the most part, Gladstone re-scripts British, European English scripts (written by non-native English speakers), (and my scripts as well) into "American current colloquial English, so the current youn American children can identify with the the characters' and narrators' way of speaking.
Morequack
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 6 -
2009-01-04 at 17:18:48
I believe the last great American story was produced in 2006: Don Rosa's "The Prisoner of White Agony Creek" (D 2005-061).
Robb_K
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 7 -
2009-01-04 at 17:41:25
Quote from user: MorequackI believe the last great American story was produced in 2006: Don Rosa's "The Prisoner of White Agony Creek" (D 2005-061).
None of Don Rosa's or The Van Horns' stories were American production since they worked for Gladstone in the 1990s. American production had the code: AR -for Another Rainbow. I'm not sure if Pat Block's two stories that were intended originally for Gladstone, but never printed by them were finished for Gemstone or Egmont. If they were finished for Gemstone (and paid for by them), they were more recent US production. But, if they were paid for by Egmont, - they were Danish production.
Has Gemstone had ANY story development production? Any covers?
None of Don Rosa's or The Van Horns' stories were American production since they worked for Gladstone in the 1990s. American production had the code: AR -for Another Rainbow. I'm not sure if Pat Block's two stories that were intended originally for Gladstone, but never printed by them were finished for Gemstone or Egmont. If they were finished for Gemstone (and paid for by them), they were more recent US production. But, if they were paid for by Egmont, - they were Danish production.
Has Gemstone had ANY story development production? Any covers?
Morequack
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 8 -
2009-01-04 at 18:02:06
I guess I just don't understand the terminology or semantics used, along with the original question. I thought stories with an "American origin" or "American production" means stories created by American artists; and perhaps?but not necessarily?eventually published in an American publication (Gemstone). As long as the artist was/is American I would consider it an American story. With the original creation date as the date drawn and or written.
Robb_K
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 9 -
2009-01-05 at 01:29:14
The first question asked: "Don't the Disney Studio's produce Disney Comics nowadays?"
That tells me that Eta Beta was asking about organised studio/editorship regular production. To ME, if a U.S. Disney Comic Books franchise holder, such as Gladstone or Gemstone Disney Comics, commissions Dutchman, Daan Jippes to draw a story, THAT is a US Disney Comics production, even if he is in The Netherlands when he draws it. If Egmont Serieforleget commissions Don Rosa to draw a story, it is a Danish Disney production, despite his writing and drawing it in USA.
If were asking about stories drawn by US citizens, then a Rosa story would qualify.
That tells me that Eta Beta was asking about organised studio/editorship regular production. To ME, if a U.S. Disney Comic Books franchise holder, such as Gladstone or Gemstone Disney Comics, commissions Dutchman, Daan Jippes to draw a story, THAT is a US Disney Comics production, even if he is in The Netherlands when he draws it. If Egmont Serieforleget commissions Don Rosa to draw a story, it is a Danish Disney production, despite his writing and drawing it in USA.
If were asking about stories drawn by US citizens, then a Rosa story would qualify.
Morequack
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 10 -
2009-01-05 at 02:56:32
I understand. But I think I see it differently. Maybe I'm way-wrong but I'm not aware of any situation in which a "foreign" artist was/is commissioned by Gemstone to do an exclusive story (meaning to be published by Gemstone first). Also, to me, if Gemstone reprints a Jippes or Branca story that was first published outside the US, that STORY is not an American production. Likewise, if Egmont publishes a Rosa story that Rosa wrote in English, that is an American story even though it may not be published in the U.S. But that's just me.
Robb_K
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 11 -
2009-01-05 at 11:23:33
If I'm not mistaken, Daan Jippes was commissioned by Gladstone to draw some covers, which, I believe, were printed first in USA.
I was trying to answer the question in the context that Eta Beta asked it.
What if I (as a US citizen) wrote and drew storyboard drawings for a story for Dutch Disney while I was in The Netherlands and also in Germany? But the final artist was a German citizen. What if he did some of the drawing while he was in Norway? What if I was also a resident of The Netherlands? Would you call that story a US, Dutch, German or Norwegian production? The stories were edited, coloured and printed first in The Netherlands.
William Van Horn lives in Canada, and I'm guessing he is both a US and Canadian citizen, who draws stories for Danish Disney. They are edited, coloured and printed first in Denmark. Are his stories US productions because he was born in USA? No part of the process occurred in USA.
I was trying to answer the question in the context that Eta Beta asked it.
What if I (as a US citizen) wrote and drew storyboard drawings for a story for Dutch Disney while I was in The Netherlands and also in Germany? But the final artist was a German citizen. What if he did some of the drawing while he was in Norway? What if I was also a resident of The Netherlands? Would you call that story a US, Dutch, German or Norwegian production? The stories were edited, coloured and printed first in The Netherlands.
William Van Horn lives in Canada, and I'm guessing he is both a US and Canadian citizen, who draws stories for Danish Disney. They are edited, coloured and printed first in Denmark. Are his stories US productions because he was born in USA? No part of the process occurred in USA.
Kurt Appel
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 12 -
2009-01-05 at 13:33:14
Gemstone has bought and published two stories of Pat Block: "Duck of the Deep" (GEM 104, WDC 653) and "The Case of the Missing Mummy" (GEM 109, published in a Oneshot Comic Book). Personally I don´t undestand why Egmont doesn´t ask Block to create new stories. I think he is one of the most creative Disney artists at the moment.
JeffT
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 13 -
2009-01-05 at 14:43:20
Quote from user: Robb_KQuote from user: Will BarksQuote from user: JeffTNot for many years. Gemstone reprints stories from European publications, only translated.
Well, translated isn't right on the whole since some European Duck comics are written by British or American authors.
For the most part, Gladstone re-scripts British, European English scripts (written by non-native English speakers), (and my scripts as well) into "American current colloquial English, so the current youn American children can identify with the the characters' and narrators' way of speaking.
Yes, I understand that, but it seemed to be more information than the question was looking for and I didn't want to overburden my answer. :) There's been one or two interesting descriptions published in various Gemstone comics detailing the process they go through to make the story work in American English. It's much more than just changing the words, that's for sure.
Well, translated isn't right on the whole since some European Duck comics are written by British or American authors.
For the most part, Gladstone re-scripts British, European English scripts (written by non-native English speakers), (and my scripts as well) into "American current colloquial English, so the current youn American children can identify with the the characters' and narrators' way of speaking.
Yes, I understand that, but it seemed to be more information than the question was looking for and I didn't want to overburden my answer. :) There's been one or two interesting descriptions published in various Gemstone comics detailing the process they go through to make the story work in American English. It's much more than just changing the words, that's for sure.
Cacou
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 14 -
2009-01-05 at 15:27:20
Gemstone produced about 6 or 7 stories (by "produced", I mean commissionned and paid for): http://coa.inducks.org/simp.php?d1=&d2=&d4=xu+gem&creat=&exactpg=&kind=0
Some works published by "SLG" (http://coa.inducks.org/publisher.php?c=SLG+Publishing) also seem to be both (c) Disney and produced in the US.
Several Disney comic writers working for Egmont in Denmark (as freelancers or "in-house") are Americans. That includes Don Rosa, but he hasn't drawn stories for several years.
Some works published by "SLG" (http://coa.inducks.org/publisher.php?c=SLG+Publishing) also seem to be both (c) Disney and produced in the US.
Several Disney comic writers working for Egmont in Denmark (as freelancers or "in-house") are Americans. That includes Don Rosa, but he hasn't drawn stories for several years.
Robb_K
Comic production in the U.S.
Message 15 -
2009-01-05 at 20:44:31
Quote from user: Kurt AppelGemstone has bought and published two stories of Pat Block: "Duck of the Deep" (GEM 104, WDC 653) and "The Case of the Missing Mummy" (GEM 109, published in a Oneshot Comic Book). Personally I don´t undestand why Egmont doesn´t ask Block to create new stories. I think he is one of the most creative Disney artists at the moment.
Pat Block IS asked to create new stories for Egmont. He writes them, and, I believe that he draws the rough sketches for his stories (as we do in The Netherlands).
Unfortunately, I believe that Egmont's art editors believe that Pat's final penciling and inking is not up to Egmont's standards as yet, so they wouldn't print it.
If my guess is incorrect, and THAT is NOT the reason, then Pat must feel that he can make a lot more money and/or create a lot more good quality stories by concentrating his time on writing, plotting, staging and laying out his stories, rather than the time-consuming final-penciling and inking of many less stories. The latter situation is akin to those of Evart Geradts and Jan Kruse with Dutch Disney Comics, both of whom are capable artists, who could do their own final artwork, if they chose to.
Pat Block IS asked to create new stories for Egmont. He writes them, and, I believe that he draws the rough sketches for his stories (as we do in The Netherlands).
Unfortunately, I believe that Egmont's art editors believe that Pat's final penciling and inking is not up to Egmont's standards as yet, so they wouldn't print it.
If my guess is incorrect, and THAT is NOT the reason, then Pat must feel that he can make a lot more money and/or create a lot more good quality stories by concentrating his time on writing, plotting, staging and laying out his stories, rather than the time-consuming final-penciling and inking of many less stories. The latter situation is akin to those of Evart Geradts and Jan Kruse with Dutch Disney Comics, both of whom are capable artists, who could do their own final artwork, if they chose to.