Quote from user: Gerd SyllwasschyWhat puzzles me most is that single long hair in the center of the bald spot. This is not a print defect, it's in the artwork (though it has been retouched in some publications).
Is there such a thing as donut baldness? Or is it an antenna?
It's only in that one panel. I don't really see it in subsequent images:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6797/wdc2121.jpg
So it was probably just a "hair out of place" or an accidental ink line.
And here's Gyro with his hat on again in the last panel, the baldness being hidden:
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1890/wdc2122.jpg
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Topic: Gyro's hair
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Baar Baar Jinx
Gyro's hair
Message 16 -
2012-05-20 at 17:31:59
Robb_K
Gyro's hair
Message 17 -
2012-05-20 at 17:43:51
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: Robb_KBarks portrayed him llike that only once, and with a full head of hair many times. So, we must conclude that, in that single situation, he was suffering from alopecia, triggered by his worrying over that situation. He did not look appreciably older than in the other situations. So, clearly it couldn't have come from a progression of male pattern baldness over a period of some years.
This story is the only one I know of where Barks drew Gyro balding. However, he presents it matter-of-factly; neither Gyro nor any other character comments on it, he is worried about events going on in the story but does not seem unduly stressed, and in the last panel, he is wearing his hat and hawking peanuts, looking like he always does, bald spot covered. He never says, "These events are causing me to lose my hair .... I better put my hat back on until it grows back". His baldness is a fait accompli, and Barks presents it as if it were always the case. Therefore, I get the impression that when he drew that particular story, Barks decided, for whatever reason, that Gyro was balding. I don't know if Barks ever drew Gyro hatless again after that point (I'm sure he did and he went back to the full-head-of-hair model, but I just don't know offhand). Again, I have no problem with a balding Gyro, and do not think it detracts in any way from the character we know and love. In fact, I think it kind of adds to his appeal.
Quote from user: CoolwaterGyro's case doesn't look like a typical crown thinning caused by hereditary male hair loss to me. With such a large area on the back of the head already completely "deforested", the hair above the forehead is usually affected significantly more or less already, with the hair line having receded (especially in the edges of the forehead) and the hair having lost density and got thinner (compare the Norwood hairloss scale). Gyro's hair above the forehead, however, shows no signs being affected of that. It is as dense and thick as always.
I'm not sure the Norwood scale applies to Gyro, as he does not really have a typical adult human male hairline in the front with frontotemporal recessions; by the same token, he doesn't have hair over the sides of his heads (where his ears would be) or over the back of the head (occipital hair), which, in human men, is resistant to balding and considered a "donor area" for hair transplants. Again, Barks drew Gyro with a prominent bald spot in this story, and quite clearly never did so before, so he must have decided to make Gyro a balding character at one point, and probably changed his mind after that.
I agree with you that Barks had purposely shown Gyro bald in this story, and NOT in any other story. Based upon my discussions with him over the years, I'm guessing that he simply had forgotten that he ever had shown Gyro with his hat removed, and had forgotten whether or not he had shown Gyro bald or with a full head of hair. Clearly, he chose, later, to not have him be bald. ALL of the other Disney Comics artists (including myself) have drawn him with a full head of hair.
I have no problem with him being bald. But, I am a stickler for plausibility and consistency in the laws of science in The Duck Universe, and in the sequence of Duckburg's and Calisota's history. Huey, Dewey and Louie are still their normal age of 6-8 or so, as they are in all the stories in which Gyro has a full head of hair. So, clearly, Gyro couldn't have had the hair-thinning process of male-pattern baldness. He lost his hair in that solid, circular area, in no more than several months. Either he suffers from Allopecia, or he has shaved his head for some reason. Perhaps he had decided to join The order of Franciscan Monks, and then changed his mind? Or, perhaps, he had joined some secret cult who perform unspeakable rituals in the dark shadows of the night? Who can say?
This story is the only one I know of where Barks drew Gyro balding. However, he presents it matter-of-factly; neither Gyro nor any other character comments on it, he is worried about events going on in the story but does not seem unduly stressed, and in the last panel, he is wearing his hat and hawking peanuts, looking like he always does, bald spot covered. He never says, "These events are causing me to lose my hair .... I better put my hat back on until it grows back". His baldness is a fait accompli, and Barks presents it as if it were always the case. Therefore, I get the impression that when he drew that particular story, Barks decided, for whatever reason, that Gyro was balding. I don't know if Barks ever drew Gyro hatless again after that point (I'm sure he did and he went back to the full-head-of-hair model, but I just don't know offhand). Again, I have no problem with a balding Gyro, and do not think it detracts in any way from the character we know and love. In fact, I think it kind of adds to his appeal.
Quote from user: CoolwaterGyro's case doesn't look like a typical crown thinning caused by hereditary male hair loss to me. With such a large area on the back of the head already completely "deforested", the hair above the forehead is usually affected significantly more or less already, with the hair line having receded (especially in the edges of the forehead) and the hair having lost density and got thinner (compare the Norwood hairloss scale). Gyro's hair above the forehead, however, shows no signs being affected of that. It is as dense and thick as always.
I'm not sure the Norwood scale applies to Gyro, as he does not really have a typical adult human male hairline in the front with frontotemporal recessions; by the same token, he doesn't have hair over the sides of his heads (where his ears would be) or over the back of the head (occipital hair), which, in human men, is resistant to balding and considered a "donor area" for hair transplants. Again, Barks drew Gyro with a prominent bald spot in this story, and quite clearly never did so before, so he must have decided to make Gyro a balding character at one point, and probably changed his mind after that.
I agree with you that Barks had purposely shown Gyro bald in this story, and NOT in any other story. Based upon my discussions with him over the years, I'm guessing that he simply had forgotten that he ever had shown Gyro with his hat removed, and had forgotten whether or not he had shown Gyro bald or with a full head of hair. Clearly, he chose, later, to not have him be bald. ALL of the other Disney Comics artists (including myself) have drawn him with a full head of hair.
I have no problem with him being bald. But, I am a stickler for plausibility and consistency in the laws of science in The Duck Universe, and in the sequence of Duckburg's and Calisota's history. Huey, Dewey and Louie are still their normal age of 6-8 or so, as they are in all the stories in which Gyro has a full head of hair. So, clearly, Gyro couldn't have had the hair-thinning process of male-pattern baldness. He lost his hair in that solid, circular area, in no more than several months. Either he suffers from Allopecia, or he has shaved his head for some reason. Perhaps he had decided to join The order of Franciscan Monks, and then changed his mind? Or, perhaps, he had joined some secret cult who perform unspeakable rituals in the dark shadows of the night? Who can say?
Hedberg
Gyro's hair
Message 18 -
2012-05-20 at 18:02:06
Barks drew a pile of GG stories afterwards where the hair was restored, so it must be accepted as a momentarily hair loss due to his worries about not winning the big prize...
Mind you that he wore that invention-hat with the roof and chimney!
Could have torn the hair of a bald man too!
Mind you that he wore that invention-hat with the roof and chimney!
Could have torn the hair of a bald man too!
Hedberg
Gyro's hair
Message 19 -
2012-05-20 at 18:08:48
Love these discussions!
Ha ha, wouldn't mind to split hair again with y'all.
This isn't a discussion on the Emperors beard, you know.
Ha ha, wouldn't mind to split hair again with y'all.
This isn't a discussion on the Emperors beard, you know.
MrCleveland
Gyro's hair
Message 20 -
2012-05-20 at 18:27:36
Quote from user: HedbergLove these discussions!
Ha ha, wouldn't mind to split hair again with y'all.
This isn't a discussion on the Emperors beard, you know.
That's fine...this site has many odd discussions that range from Gyro being bald to Magica de Spell not wearing shoes...there's even an article that Mentions Donald Duck without any clothes on!
Ha ha, wouldn't mind to split hair again with y'all.
This isn't a discussion on the Emperors beard, you know.
That's fine...this site has many odd discussions that range from Gyro being bald to Magica de Spell not wearing shoes...there's even an article that Mentions Donald Duck without any clothes on!
Baar Baar Jinx
Gyro's hair
Message 21 -
2012-05-20 at 22:34:37
Gyro with a truly "full head of hair" might look kind of distinguished ....
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/641/gtyrohair0001.jpg
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/641/gtyrohair0001.jpg
Robb_K
Gyro's hair
Message 22 -
2012-05-21 at 00:19:20
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxGyro with a truly "full head of hair" might look kind of distinguished ....
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/641/gtyrohair0001.jpg
He looks too much of a "Hippie type" with his hair in the back curling upward. Too much like The Beatles! Hair slightly too long for that style, but too short to be the wild, unkempt hair of a crazy inventor. I like him better with Barks' wild, weird-inventor hair. He's an absent-minded professor type, who is too engrossed in his inventing to get his hair cut regularly. in any case, he probably does it himself with one of his screwball inventions (WHEN he thinks of it (and that is only when some customer asks him for a do-it-yourself haircutting machine!).
Nice drawing, however! You have captured his basic shyness, together with his zest-for-life. A very good portrayal of his character, I must say. I didn't know that you were an artist. Have you drawn professionally? (I somehow get the feeling that I should already know the answer to that question).
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/641/gtyrohair0001.jpg
He looks too much of a "Hippie type" with his hair in the back curling upward. Too much like The Beatles! Hair slightly too long for that style, but too short to be the wild, unkempt hair of a crazy inventor. I like him better with Barks' wild, weird-inventor hair. He's an absent-minded professor type, who is too engrossed in his inventing to get his hair cut regularly. in any case, he probably does it himself with one of his screwball inventions (WHEN he thinks of it (and that is only when some customer asks him for a do-it-yourself haircutting machine!).
Nice drawing, however! You have captured his basic shyness, together with his zest-for-life. A very good portrayal of his character, I must say. I didn't know that you were an artist. Have you drawn professionally? (I somehow get the feeling that I should already know the answer to that question).
Timoro
Gyro's hair
Message 23 -
2012-05-21 at 08:20:34
Other artists, especially Tony Strobl - if I recall correctly - have drawn Gyro wearing a wig. When suddenly excited or being scared, his hat and the wig jumped up in air, sometimes there was even an egg under his hat, or small birds. This stuff were done in early 1970's. I guess they might have been Studio Foreign Program stuff - S-coded stories.
https://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pjuEwc3q5jw343s1NNImqt2MU5LbiLFD_YNsIspIS6NrYTBB1GoDWtjEHW4Nkz0JdM_CHukT4StJyxsi1noRruA/gyro%20hat%20wig.jpg?psid=1
Timo
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Timo
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Gyro's hair
Message 24 -
2012-05-21 at 15:23:43
Wait... this is Gyro we're talking about here. Can't we just assume he temporarily burnt some hair off in an unseen science experiment disaster? It would explain why he wears the hat.
Ramapith
Gyro's hair
Message 25 -
2012-05-21 at 20:30:44
Quote from user: timoroOther artists, especially Tony Strobl - if I recall correctly - have drawn Gyro wearing a wig. When suddenly excited or being scared, his hat and the wig jumped up in air
I could swear I've seen Barks himself draw such a scene, likely in a story scripted by someone else.
For once, my usually good memory for this stuff has left me. Any helpers (lightbulb-headed or otherwise)?
I could swear I've seen Barks himself draw such a scene, likely in a story scripted by someone else.
For once, my usually good memory for this stuff has left me. Any helpers (lightbulb-headed or otherwise)?
Gerd Syllwasschy
Gyro's hair
Message 26 -
2012-05-22 at 15:23:45
I don't remember any Gyro scenes, but Grandma did some stunning hairpiece acrobatics once:
http://www.barksbase.de/images/grandma_touche_toupee.jpg
http://www.barksbase.de/images/grandma_touche_toupee.jpg
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