Great news about Daan rewriting the story and adding one page. I assume this 9-pager, and his 14-page "Queen of The Apple Festival" stories will also be added to a volume of Jippes/Barks (Jr. Woodchucks and late Donald Duck/Uncle Scrooge) stories, for the final volume of the Scandinavian/German (and I hope, later, US) colour "Carl Barks Library". That will include his re-drawing of "King Scrooge The First" (Strobl), and a newer version of the Junior Woodchucks' story Mau Heymans drew.
I can't wait to see the new 9-pager (and also "King Scrooge I", and also to see what Geoff Blum did with the Golden Apple story (and to see why he needed 14 pages for a WDC story, that I fit nicely (and Barks did, too) into 10 pages.
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Topic: Rosa's finishing Barks' "Pied Piper of Duckburg"
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Robb_K
Rosa's finishing Barks' "Pied Piper of Duckburg"
Message 16 -
2007-07-16 at 09:42:44
Roger North
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Message 17 -
2007-08-11 at 17:45:23
I think that it's good that Don Rosa finished The Pied Piper of Duckburg for Carl Barks. Don Rosa is every bit as a good writer as Carl Barks once was.
AC
Rosa's finishing Barks' "Pied Piper of Duckburg"
Message 18 -
2007-11-17 at 15:08:00
The jippes story is scheduled for the danish weekly coming out November 22nd - the story is already out in Sweden and Norway.
http://www.andebyonline.com/forum/i50721/#50721
http://www.ddfr.dk/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1892&p=16
http://www.ddfr.dk/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=31455#p31455
http://www.andebyonline.com/forum/i50721/#50721
http://www.ddfr.dk/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1892&p=16
http://www.ddfr.dk/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=31455#p31455
Sigvald
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Message 19 -
2007-11-19 at 03:23:57
I have now got the new issue of DD&Co (47-2007) so here are scans of the Jippes-version of the first three pages of "The Pied Piper of Duckburg". It's my impression that Jippes' version is further from Barks' original version than is Don Rosas version. He has for instance removed $crooge's $-sign curtains (panel 3 on page 1), and Jippes has also included a little lawn in front of $crooge's building - in stead of the original pavement. Jippes has also changed the dialogue in panel 4 on page 2. In stead of advising Gyro to blow the bridge the box advices him to just open the bridge.
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/jippes1.jpg
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/jippes2.jpg
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/jippes3.jpg
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/jippes1.jpg
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/jippes2.jpg
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/jippes3.jpg
Robb_K
Rosa's finishing Barks' "Pied Piper of Duckburg"
Message 20 -
2007-11-19 at 08:58:05
FANTASTIC! WE now get to see Barks' 3 pages much more like they would have looked from Barks. Even though Rosa stayed nearer to Barks' lines, Rosa's linework looks nothing like Barks-style lines, nor even remotely like Disney artist lines. I don't mind that Daan changed some of the panels' layout slightly, and that he made Helper's head into a more European-shaped light bulb than the original North American-shaped one. I can't wait to see the rest of the story. It will be like finding a "lost" Barks story. I understand that we can't post it here, as it is a currently selling story (and we can't post ANY entire story here on DCF). The other 5 pages Rosa drew (as all Rosa work) look nothing like Barks, and nothing like a Disney comic story, to me.
I will have a Danish friend buy me the Danish issue containing this story, which I'll pick up when I return to Danmark in June. I assume I'll also get my copy of the issue with Daan's drawings of Geoff Blum's "Queen of The Apple Festival" story based on Mike Barrier's description of Barks' 1952 unpublished WDC & S story.
I will have a Danish friend buy me the Danish issue containing this story, which I'll pick up when I return to Danmark in June. I assume I'll also get my copy of the issue with Daan's drawings of Geoff Blum's "Queen of The Apple Festival" story based on Mike Barrier's description of Barks' 1952 unpublished WDC & S story.
Roger North
Rosa's finishing Barks' "Pied Piper of Duckburg"
Message 21 -
2007-11-19 at 12:17:48
Hold On you mean to tell me there's a Daan Jippes version of the story.
Hedberg
Rosa's finishing Barks' "Pied Piper of Duckburg"
Message 22 -
2007-11-19 at 12:29:39
I find the Daan Jippes drawings very true to Barks - and look forward to go to my local store on nov. 22. to get my copy of Anders And & Co.
The fact that Jippes altered the perspective in the third panel only makes things match better, taking that the window on panel 11 is the one that $crooge is calling for Gyro from in the first place. The grass only makes it believable that Gyro still stands on the pavement - and not in the middle of the road.
One thing that makes me wonder, though, is the meaningless placing of the engraving of KR on $crooge's office-desk.
The KR-sign makes no sence other than a monetarian value in either Norway, Sweden or Denmark, bearing the fact that $crooge's name is Skrue, Joakim von Anka and Joakim von And in the respective countries...
The double-twist off the dollar-sign and $crooge's name is spoiled on us!
The fact that Jippes altered the perspective in the third panel only makes things match better, taking that the window on panel 11 is the one that $crooge is calling for Gyro from in the first place. The grass only makes it believable that Gyro still stands on the pavement - and not in the middle of the road.
One thing that makes me wonder, though, is the meaningless placing of the engraving of KR on $crooge's office-desk.
The KR-sign makes no sence other than a monetarian value in either Norway, Sweden or Denmark, bearing the fact that $crooge's name is Skrue, Joakim von Anka and Joakim von And in the respective countries...
The double-twist off the dollar-sign and $crooge's name is spoiled on us!
Sigvald
Rosa's finishing Barks' "Pied Piper of Duckburg"
Message 23 -
2007-11-20 at 01:39:58
In order to make it easier to compare the various versions of this story I am here presenting the first three pages of Don Rosa's version as well:
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/rosa1.jpg
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/rosa2.jpg
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/rosa3.jpg
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/rosa1.jpg
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/rosa2.jpg
http://duckman.pettho.com/piper/rosa3.jpg
Cacou
Rosa's finishing Barks' "Pied Piper of Duckburg"
Message 24 -
2007-11-20 at 17:44:12
Thanks a lot for the scans. But how long is Jippes' story? Did he expand it in the same way as Don Rosa? I assume the following pages must be quite different between the two, since these are not based on any Barks skecth.
Barko
Rosa's finishing Barks' "Pied Piper of Duckburg"
Message 25 -
2007-11-23 at 00:20:53
Quote from user: cacouThanks a lot for the scans. But how long is Jippes' story? Did he expand it in the same way as Don Rosa? I assume the following pages must be quite different between the two, since these are not based on any Barks skecth.
The Jippes version are 9 pages long. One page longer than Rosa´s version. Yes, the following pages are quite different.
The Jippes version are 9 pages long. One page longer than Rosa´s version. Yes, the following pages are quite different.
WB
Rosa's finishing Barks' "Pied Piper of Duckburg"
Message 26 -
2007-11-29 at 09:33:54
Hm....
Honestly, I prefer the Rosa version, but I think a lot of that has to do that I was exposed to that version for the first and longest period of time.
I will say however that I kind of feel that NEITHER artist truly puts an entirely Barksian spin on the art shown here. By that I don't mean to disparage the artwork at hand, but moreso to say that each artist - in terms of their **styles** - put a decidedly Rosa-ish or Jippes-ish spin on their interpretation of the artwork that doesn't QUITE fit with the original style of the Barks pencils that have been seen. I say Rosa's style fits ****slightly**** better IMO because during this period of time Barks was not known for being las oose in his artwork as he once was and Rosa - for all of his immaculate detail - does oftentime have stiffer characters. In fact, I would say that it is Rosa's sense of detail that does more harm than good in his interpretation because even when he tries to "dumb it down" for lack of a better word, he can't. Daan Jippes style is a lot looser in comparison and while there is nothing wrong with that, the inks have a lot to do with that I think. They move a lot more flowingly and smoothly than Barks's pencils and as a result it looks more like Jippes' own work/style than Jippes over Barks. That's not to say that either of these interpretations are bad by far - in fact I think both are great - it's just I can't really vault one over the other because both have incredible flaws and pluses in what they bring to the table.
I will say that all issues aside, I greatly prefer Rosa and Jippes current interpretations of Barks's work over the rather ick interpretations of late era Tony Strobl in terms of style and technical detail. i was never fond of his late era work, even when it was over a Barks story.
Honestly, I prefer the Rosa version, but I think a lot of that has to do that I was exposed to that version for the first and longest period of time.
I will say however that I kind of feel that NEITHER artist truly puts an entirely Barksian spin on the art shown here. By that I don't mean to disparage the artwork at hand, but moreso to say that each artist - in terms of their **styles** - put a decidedly Rosa-ish or Jippes-ish spin on their interpretation of the artwork that doesn't QUITE fit with the original style of the Barks pencils that have been seen. I say Rosa's style fits ****slightly**** better IMO because during this period of time Barks was not known for being las oose in his artwork as he once was and Rosa - for all of his immaculate detail - does oftentime have stiffer characters. In fact, I would say that it is Rosa's sense of detail that does more harm than good in his interpretation because even when he tries to "dumb it down" for lack of a better word, he can't. Daan Jippes style is a lot looser in comparison and while there is nothing wrong with that, the inks have a lot to do with that I think. They move a lot more flowingly and smoothly than Barks's pencils and as a result it looks more like Jippes' own work/style than Jippes over Barks. That's not to say that either of these interpretations are bad by far - in fact I think both are great - it's just I can't really vault one over the other because both have incredible flaws and pluses in what they bring to the table.
I will say that all issues aside, I greatly prefer Rosa and Jippes current interpretations of Barks's work over the rather ick interpretations of late era Tony Strobl in terms of style and technical detail. i was never fond of his late era work, even when it was over a Barks story.
Robb_K
Rosa's finishing Barks' "Pied Piper of Duckburg"
Message 27 -
2012-03-02 at 08:23:16
Quote from user: Gyro GearlooseI also think Rosa was wrong in trying to graft his preoccupation with Duckburg geography onto the story--note that in the Barks original, the building that Scrooge takes Gyro into is his "Money Bin," while Rosa has altered it to an office building and changed "Money Bin" to "overflow bin" in the script. Barks put Scrooge's Bin in downtown Duckburg in several Gyro stories (including "Cave of the Winds") and Rosa, who insists that the Bin can ONLY be shown on Killmotor Hill, has frequently complained about that (dismissing the Gyro stories as apochryphal for this reason at least once). I don't think he should have tried to tinker with Barks for such a niggling reason.
Incidentally, Robb's pencils look very good! Now, if we only had a script that would tell us how Barks planned the subsequent five pages...
I always thought that Scrooge had a money bin on Killmotor Hill AND he had a large mony vault (bin) in The McDuck Building, Downtown (on Quack Street).
Incidentally, Robb's pencils look very good! Now, if we only had a script that would tell us how Barks planned the subsequent five pages...
I always thought that Scrooge had a money bin on Killmotor Hill AND he had a large mony vault (bin) in The McDuck Building, Downtown (on Quack Street).
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