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Topic: Tintin, Spielberg, and Barks

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Roger North
Donald is a Duck Tales character but he is not one of the major characters on the show despite the fact that he is a prominent character in the Uncle Scrooge comic books. Donald has only appeared in seven episodes but he has been absent from most of the series.

Here is a list of Episodes that he was in

Don't Give Up The Ship (Part 1 of the Treasure of the Golden Suns)
Three Ducks on the Condor (Part 3 of the Treasure of the Golden Suns)
Sphinx for the Memories
Home Sweet Homer (Cameo Appearance near the end of the episode)
A Whale of a Bad Time (Part 2 of Catch as Cash Can)
Spies in Their Eyes
All Ducks on Deck
Till Nephews Do Us Part (Cameo Appearance near the end of the episode)
Coolwater
Barks himself mentioned somewhere that his original long stories, if realized as cartoons, would not be longer than 10 to 15 minutes. For 25-minutes cartoons they would have had to lengthen or fill up the stories in any case.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderI always wondered why they didn't adapt Barks' stories literally to DuckTales. You could save an entire story department. "No Such Varmint" comes to mind as one of the comics that could be easily adapted. Or "Back to the Klondike".
How would you do a DuckTales version of "No Such Varmint" without changing it? (Remember: no Donald Duck.)

I forgot. But why did they need to remove him from DuckTales anyway? I know that's the entire point, but it would've been nice if they stayed more faithful to the original sometimes.
Gyro Gearloose
I think Donald's absence from Ducktales was caused by a combination of three factors.
1. The fact that Disney wanted to make Scrooge a better-known character to Disney cartoon fans (if Donald had been on the show, the casual viewer would have tuned in to see him, not some old rich duck they'd never heard of).
2. Donald's voice, an essential part of his screen persona, was considered difficult to understand and thus unsuited for more complex dialogue-driven stories.
3. Roy E. Disney was supposedly very reluctant to let the Disney TV animation department use any of the "classic" Disney characters (supposedly, the TV crew had difficulties in getting permission to use Huey, Dewey, and Louie at first), and the Ducktales crew was only able to get limited permission to use Donald. I'm not sure how true this last story is, since the TV department was later able to use classic characters like Chip and Dale and the Jungle Book cast, as well as Goofy and Pete, in other shows.
Deyanmegara
Quote from user: Gyro Gearloose2. Donald's voice, an essential part of his screen persona, was considered difficult to understand and thus unsuited for more complex dialogue-driven stories.
That makes the most difficult problem. I saw the German dub of DuckTales on Super RTL a while ago, and his voice was much clearer than usual (even for German dubs). In the old shorts his German voice is of the usual quacking type. Of course, it's probably hard to find good duck imitators, for example so far only one Bulgarian actor does it right (the old Bulgarian dub of DuckTales used a not very impressive squeaky voice instead).
GeoX
I think there's a fourth reason, which is that, given the limits of the medium, having Donald around would make the show feel overstuffed--since then presumably HDL would still be living with HIM, meaning it would be necessary to coordinate their adventures with Scrooge and it would get to be a logistical hassle. Of course, Launchpad often takes the place of Donald, but he's strictly optional, allowing for greater flexibility.
I also think wish-fulfillment plays a factor--the idea that it would be fun for kids to imagine themselves suddenly getting to live in a big mansion and having crazy adventures with their rich uncle.
(Mind you, I WISH there were more of Donald on the show...)
Gyro Gearloose
Quote from user: GeoXI think there's a fourth reason, which is that, given the limits of the medium, having Donald around would make the show feel overstuffed--since then presumably HDL would still be living with HIM, meaning it would be necessary to coordinate their adventures with Scrooge and it would get to be a logistical hassle. Of course, Launchpad often takes the place of Donald, but he's strictly optional, allowing for greater flexibility.

I also think wish-fulfillment plays a factor--the idea that it would be fun for kids to imagine themselves suddenly getting to live in a big mansion and having crazy adventures with their rich uncle.

(Mind you, I WISH there were more of Donald on the show...)

I agree about the fourth reason, but that's also something of a result of the show's goal of spotlighting Scrooge. Had Donald still lived with the nephews, the show would have been from the Duck family's point of view, with Scrooge as a plot catalyst--"Uncle Scrooge wants us to go on an adventure with him again"--and old McDuck would have been regarded as a supporting character rather than the star.

Incidentally, the above is no criticism of the show--I grew up concurrently reading Gladstone 1's comics and watching Ducktales, and I've never felt the two duck universes were irreconcilable.
GeoX
Good point. I just wish their characterization of Scrooge was a bit less softened and more consistent.
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