Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxI haven't received WDC&S 717 yet, but looks like Van Horn created a similar character; why didn't he just use Brigitta?
Because he's good in creating new characters.
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Topic: Don Rosa at Rapallo
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DonHergeFan
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 16 -
2011-04-06 at 17:10:11
GeoX
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 17 -
2011-04-06 at 17:19:49
But Voracia is just redundant, and she is very far from being a good character. "Scrooge for a Day" is not one of Van Horn's better efforts.
Roger North
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 18 -
2011-04-06 at 18:12:53
I think Goldie is a better choice for Scrooge than Brigitta. I don't like her that much. She seems like a golddigger.
Baar Baar Jinx
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 19 -
2011-04-06 at 23:58:56
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderI have always found EVERYone's version of Daisy nagging, controlling and manipulative. Especially the 1980s Danish version of Daisy.
True, but as with Donald, Scrooge and the boys, most artists who came after Barks were faithful to his characterizations. If he had portrayed her differently, so would the European comics.
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderI think you've read other stories with her than I, and to be fair I haven't read the earliest stories with Brigitta myself. But in recent Italian stories ("pocket" stories) she's a emancipated modern woman and is in stories and business with Jubal Pomp, the wannabe-tycoon (another Scarpa creation). The love for Scrooge is pushed more to the background now.
I've only read Scarpa stories published in the US by Gladstone/Gemstone; I'd love to read the later ones where she's less of a joke and more likable.
Quote from user: GeoXDon't have a problem with the name, though. If you look, you'll see that some Scarpa names are anglicized and some aren't, and if her name doesn't have any special associations in Italian, I don't see why it would need to in English. I don't think descriptive, Dickensian names are necessary in all cases. Ustabee I thought her last name was "MacBride," because, you know, she's always trying to get married and stuff. But the original name works for me.
There's nothing wrong with the name, I just think it's kind of uninteresting. I mean you have catchy names like Gladstone Gander, Flintheart Glomgold, Glittering Goldie, and the like, and then you have .... Brigitta MacBridge. Even DuckTales did a better job with Webbigail Vanderquack and Mrs. Beakley. If I liked Brigitta a little more maybe I would've felt differently.
Quote from user: Roger NorthI think Goldie is a better choice for Scrooge than Brigitta. I don't like her that much. She seems like a golddigger.
Scrooge and Goldie have always struck me as equals ... there's a mutual attraction but they're both too proud and too strong personality-wise to admit it. I prefer Goldie to be in Scrooge's past rather than in his present. Barks had the right idea never using her again after "Back to the Klondike". She's better as an unspoken presence. Having her show up in Scrooge's office to kiss him because his family paid for the trip seems unlike the way Barks portrayed her. Rosa's use of her in "Life of Scrooge" was necessary, but I don't think she should ever appear again in "present day" stories. It cheapens her a bit, IMHO. Goldie is probably the strongest female character Barks created. Let's face it though ... if they were real life characters they would probably have ended up in a bitter divorce.
True, but as with Donald, Scrooge and the boys, most artists who came after Barks were faithful to his characterizations. If he had portrayed her differently, so would the European comics.
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderI think you've read other stories with her than I, and to be fair I haven't read the earliest stories with Brigitta myself. But in recent Italian stories ("pocket" stories) she's a emancipated modern woman and is in stories and business with Jubal Pomp, the wannabe-tycoon (another Scarpa creation). The love for Scrooge is pushed more to the background now.
I've only read Scarpa stories published in the US by Gladstone/Gemstone; I'd love to read the later ones where she's less of a joke and more likable.
Quote from user: GeoXDon't have a problem with the name, though. If you look, you'll see that some Scarpa names are anglicized and some aren't, and if her name doesn't have any special associations in Italian, I don't see why it would need to in English. I don't think descriptive, Dickensian names are necessary in all cases. Ustabee I thought her last name was "MacBride," because, you know, she's always trying to get married and stuff. But the original name works for me.
There's nothing wrong with the name, I just think it's kind of uninteresting. I mean you have catchy names like Gladstone Gander, Flintheart Glomgold, Glittering Goldie, and the like, and then you have .... Brigitta MacBridge. Even DuckTales did a better job with Webbigail Vanderquack and Mrs. Beakley. If I liked Brigitta a little more maybe I would've felt differently.
Quote from user: Roger NorthI think Goldie is a better choice for Scrooge than Brigitta. I don't like her that much. She seems like a golddigger.
Scrooge and Goldie have always struck me as equals ... there's a mutual attraction but they're both too proud and too strong personality-wise to admit it. I prefer Goldie to be in Scrooge's past rather than in his present. Barks had the right idea never using her again after "Back to the Klondike". She's better as an unspoken presence. Having her show up in Scrooge's office to kiss him because his family paid for the trip seems unlike the way Barks portrayed her. Rosa's use of her in "Life of Scrooge" was necessary, but I don't think she should ever appear again in "present day" stories. It cheapens her a bit, IMHO. Goldie is probably the strongest female character Barks created. Let's face it though ... if they were real life characters they would probably have ended up in a bitter divorce.
Sim
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 20 -
2011-04-07 at 07:20:29
Here, you can admire Don Rosa while is drawing Brigitta:
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/200143_1672797899877_1235305145_31503688_872019_n.jp
Actually, Brigitta's (or, according to Barks, Brigitte's) eyes are different from those, they are just like Donald and Scrooge's ones.
Don "mistaked" because he copied Brigitta from this drawing:
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/36733_1432331922281_1052394951_31154795_4359203_n.jpg
Bye! ;)
Simone
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/200143_1672797899877_1235305145_31503688_872019_n.jp
Actually, Brigitta's (or, according to Barks, Brigitte's) eyes are different from those, they are just like Donald and Scrooge's ones.
Don "mistaked" because he copied Brigitta from this drawing:
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/36733_1432331922281_1052394951_31154795_4359203_n.jpg
Bye! ;)
Simone
Sim
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 21 -
2011-04-07 at 11:31:07
Hi boys!
If everything will go as it should go, soon, you'll can admire a Gideon McDuck drawn by Pat Block. ;)
If everything will go as it should go, soon, you'll can admire a Gideon McDuck drawn by Pat Block. ;)
Roger North
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 22 -
2011-04-07 at 12:27:02
Maybe so but at least She is not like Brigitta. Gideon McDuck drawn by Pat Block? He hasn't even appeared in American Stories.
Sim
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 23 -
2011-04-07 at 12:30:17
Quote from user: Roger NorthGideon McDuck drawn by Pat Block? He hasn't even appeared in American Stories.
I know that and I think you all will be nicely amazed. ;)
I know that and I think you all will be nicely amazed. ;)
Quackberg
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 24 -
2011-04-07 at 13:39:30
I have to admit that I'm not so fond of Gideon (and Rumpus McFowl) as I have always considered Scrooge the last male of the McDuck Clan and that he doesn't have any other siblings than his sisters Matilda and Hortense. I do kinda like Birgitta McBridge though but she's not one of my top favorites. I must say it's really interesting to see Don Rosa draw her.
One I would love to see drawn by Don Rosa or any other artist is Slackjaw Snorehead (but I doubt they would know who that is as he only appeared once). I really like the appearance and characteristics Vicar and Lars created and it would be nice to see other artist draw him so he could grew as a character. Or is that just wishful thinking :P.
One I would love to see drawn by Don Rosa or any other artist is Slackjaw Snorehead (but I doubt they would know who that is as he only appeared once). I really like the appearance and characteristics Vicar and Lars created and it would be nice to see other artist draw him so he could grew as a character. Or is that just wishful thinking :P.
Coolwater
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 25 -
2011-04-07 at 14:48:13
I don't find Brigitta really that dislikable, and I assume to her favor that it's primarily the man and not the money what she lusts after with respect to Scrooge. In those Brigitta stories, however, I almost always--oh, I virtually always take sides with Scrooge, especially when she is allied with Jubal Pomp. And Scrooge can be really mean to her, and he can take use of unfair methods in his fights--I will still applaud to the old tightwad for a good thump against Brigitta's obtrusion. If Scarpa maybe didn't want to put her up as a gold-digger, he did a good job in portraying her as a dragon.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxGoldie is probably the strongest female character Barks created.
Don't forget Magica de Spell, Scrooge's true kindred spirit in hate.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxGoldie is probably the strongest female character Barks created.
Don't forget Magica de Spell, Scrooge's true kindred spirit in hate.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 26 -
2011-04-07 at 16:28:49
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxLet's face it though ... if they were real life characters they would probably have ended up in a bitter divorce.
That's one thing I really like about Disney comics: a character can do completely crazy stuff, but never ever will another character call him out on it. Never will people hate each other. Not even Scrooge and the Beagle Boys completely hate each other. Imagine a real-life Donald: he'd barely have any contact with his family. He hates Gladstone (well, close enough), and probably Fethry also, never sees his sister or parents, and is being bullied by his Uncle Scrooge. Now imagine that, but in real life. It's a good thing Donald lives in the Disney comic universe, and not in a movie.
That's one thing I really like about Disney comics: a character can do completely crazy stuff, but never ever will another character call him out on it. Never will people hate each other. Not even Scrooge and the Beagle Boys completely hate each other. Imagine a real-life Donald: he'd barely have any contact with his family. He hates Gladstone (well, close enough), and probably Fethry also, never sees his sister or parents, and is being bullied by his Uncle Scrooge. Now imagine that, but in real life. It's a good thing Donald lives in the Disney comic universe, and not in a movie.
Sim
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 27 -
2011-04-07 at 21:48:56
Quote from user: Roger NorthGideon McDuck drawn by Pat Block?
Next week I will be off from my computer and so I will not be able to reply any message.
Anyway, I leave to you this rough sketch of Block's drawing of Gideon.
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3115/image1518.jpg
As soon I will be back, you will certainly hear news from me.
Did you know that Block painted Italian Nonna Caraldina, Rosolio and Matilda DeSpell (she's actually from a Ducktales Comic) in a beautiful painting made for an Italian collector?
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205691_1827035390251_1071285558_32129666_4080437_n.jpg
So long! ;)
Simone
Next week I will be off from my computer and so I will not be able to reply any message.
Anyway, I leave to you this rough sketch of Block's drawing of Gideon.
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3115/image1518.jpg
As soon I will be back, you will certainly hear news from me.
Did you know that Block painted Italian Nonna Caraldina, Rosolio and Matilda DeSpell (she's actually from a Ducktales Comic) in a beautiful painting made for an Italian collector?
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205691_1827035390251_1071285558_32129666_4080437_n.jpg
So long! ;)
Simone
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 28 -
2011-04-10 at 12:21:29
For the Brigitta fans: she seems to be making an appearance in a coming Mickey Mouse issue, issue 309!
http://www.comixology.com/sku/APR110906/Mickey-Mouse-309
http://www.comixology.com/sku/APR110906/Mickey-Mouse-309
Roger North
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 29 -
2011-04-10 at 12:49:11
That is weird. I never heard of Matilda De Spell. Maybe you mean Minima De Spell. I saw her in the Duck Tales comic titled Dime After Dime which I have in Disney Adventures #6 and The Disney Cartoon Tales Duck Tales volume with the same name as the aforementioned story.
Alle
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 30 -
2011-04-10 at 21:50:02
English language history of Rapallo Papersera's meeting with Don Rosa here, complete with photos and videos (I'm the one that is having some bourbon from Don!).