Quote from user: AlleUnsatisfied of his first Brigitta drawing, Don did a new (and better) version:
http://www.papersera.net/public_html2/showcase/Brigitta_McBridge/brigitta2_reduced.jpg
That's truly incredible! Don Rosa drew 'Brigitta MacBridge'. I'm jumping inside my mind. Well, I don't care if she will never make part of his 'Duckverse' (it's not of my business), but it's great to see a drawing of an Italian character made by him.
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Chabacano
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 46 -
2011-09-22 at 23:52:02
Chabacano
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 47 -
2011-09-23 at 00:50:20
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: Baar Baar JinxNevertheless, she keeps throwing herself at him, and he treats her poorly in return, setting up the "humor" in these stories. That's where the somewhat misogynistic aspect of this situation that I alluded to earlier comes into play, I think, and makes Brigitta look like a very weak, pitiful character.)
Well, yeah, I agree with this one (to a degree). To me, at least, Brigitta pursuing Scrooge can be funny if seen occasionally... but if all we see of Brigitta's interactions with Scrooge is her acting like a lovesick puppy, dedicating her life to becoming Scrooge's wife... then she quickly comes across to the reader as being pathetic. The solution is to give her other interests as well and to dampen her love for Scrooge a bit. She should be able to talk to Scrooge as an equal, as a mature and intelligent woman... not as a lovesmitten one-dimensional character.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: Lars JensenWhen they scheme with Brigitta it's because they believe she would be good for Scrooge. And they're right. Scrooge just can't/won't realize this.
I would argue that's a matter of opinion. Yes, we're talking about cartoon ducks here, but if you were Brigitta's friend in real life, would you encourage her to continue to pursue Scrooge despite how he keeps treating her because "he's a nice person deep inside"?
No, I wouldn't. In real life, if Scrooge treated her like dirt, I would advice Brigitta to stay away from him, and I would scold Scrooge for being a jerk. Which the boys have done more than once. But in Disney comics Scrooge isn't always a jerk and time is constantly wound back (or so it seems -- just look at how many Christmas parties the boys have been at), so it's understandable that Donald and the boys only remember Scrooge having been a jerk towards Brigitta a couple of times at most.
That said, Scrooge being abusive for no reason other than Brigitta saying she loves him isn't very sympathetic, no. Perhaps there is a way to fix that, though...
I also think Brigitta should move on every now and then and find a new (healthy?) obsession for her life. I think Scarpa created her to be a woman who would try tirelessly to break the ice in Scrooge's heart, but this would be only the premise of her role in the 'Duckverse', 'cos soon she forgot her sweetheart condition and became a woman-able-to-cheat-to-get-what-she-wants, including Scarpa created another great character to help her conquer Scrooge, the not that honest Jubal Pomp, who became her best friend. There is a classic story (http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+AT++302-A) where she pretends to be in love with Rockerduk, what makes Scrooge terribly jealous. She and Rockerduck had actually made a pact that would benefit them both. That's the Brigitta I do love. Oh, and, Mr. Jensen, I hope your story where she dates Flint (http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=d+2006-273) is published in my country soon. That's the kind of story she needs to show her strong personality, after all she wasn't conceived to be a lovesick puppy.
Talking about (sick?) obsessions, maybe Magica de Spell should move on too and find a place in her agenda to get a boyfriend. To get the 'Number one dime' is definitely something that was already completely explored in the comics... I like her obsession but this girl needs to get a life urgently!!!
Well, yeah, I agree with this one (to a degree). To me, at least, Brigitta pursuing Scrooge can be funny if seen occasionally... but if all we see of Brigitta's interactions with Scrooge is her acting like a lovesick puppy, dedicating her life to becoming Scrooge's wife... then she quickly comes across to the reader as being pathetic. The solution is to give her other interests as well and to dampen her love for Scrooge a bit. She should be able to talk to Scrooge as an equal, as a mature and intelligent woman... not as a lovesmitten one-dimensional character.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: Lars JensenWhen they scheme with Brigitta it's because they believe she would be good for Scrooge. And they're right. Scrooge just can't/won't realize this.
I would argue that's a matter of opinion. Yes, we're talking about cartoon ducks here, but if you were Brigitta's friend in real life, would you encourage her to continue to pursue Scrooge despite how he keeps treating her because "he's a nice person deep inside"?
No, I wouldn't. In real life, if Scrooge treated her like dirt, I would advice Brigitta to stay away from him, and I would scold Scrooge for being a jerk. Which the boys have done more than once. But in Disney comics Scrooge isn't always a jerk and time is constantly wound back (or so it seems -- just look at how many Christmas parties the boys have been at), so it's understandable that Donald and the boys only remember Scrooge having been a jerk towards Brigitta a couple of times at most.
That said, Scrooge being abusive for no reason other than Brigitta saying she loves him isn't very sympathetic, no. Perhaps there is a way to fix that, though...
I also think Brigitta should move on every now and then and find a new (healthy?) obsession for her life. I think Scarpa created her to be a woman who would try tirelessly to break the ice in Scrooge's heart, but this would be only the premise of her role in the 'Duckverse', 'cos soon she forgot her sweetheart condition and became a woman-able-to-cheat-to-get-what-she-wants, including Scarpa created another great character to help her conquer Scrooge, the not that honest Jubal Pomp, who became her best friend. There is a classic story (http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+AT++302-A) where she pretends to be in love with Rockerduk, what makes Scrooge terribly jealous. She and Rockerduck had actually made a pact that would benefit them both. That's the Brigitta I do love. Oh, and, Mr. Jensen, I hope your story where she dates Flint (http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=d+2006-273) is published in my country soon. That's the kind of story she needs to show her strong personality, after all she wasn't conceived to be a lovesick puppy.
Talking about (sick?) obsessions, maybe Magica de Spell should move on too and find a place in her agenda to get a boyfriend. To get the 'Number one dime' is definitely something that was already completely explored in the comics... I like her obsession but this girl needs to get a life urgently!!!
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 48 -
2011-09-23 at 14:05:36
You know, when you think about it, Duckburg is a pretty sick place. Look at the above examples with Brigitta and Magica, and Robb_K genius post about Gyro in the topic "Barefeet Gyro". Then there's Daisy, one of my least favorite characters (as she is often, but not always written) because she's a pest to everyone. Donald, Gyro, even Scrooge. There's Donald, who's miserable life equals Daffy Duck's. Gladstone, who is the world's most selfish person when you think about it. Scrooge, for being a real Scrooge. Huey, Dewey and Louie too (they rarely play with kids their age, they're either JW's or brats). Goofy would be labeled in our world as "mentally retarded". Not to mention the rivalry between Scrooge, Glomgold and Rockerduck, which has passed the boundaries of ethics a long time ago. And the gigantic crime rate.
Yeah, Duckburg is a pretty sick place.
Yeah, Duckburg is a pretty sick place.
Lars Jensen
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 49 -
2011-09-23 at 14:10:22
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderGoofy would be labeled in our world as "mentally retarded".
Only when he isn't characterized correctly.
Goofy isn't an idiot. He's an eccentric.
Only when he isn't characterized correctly.
Goofy isn't an idiot. He's an eccentric.
Chabacano
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 50 -
2011-09-25 at 02:19:48
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderGoofy would be labeled in our world as "mentally retarded".
Only when he isn't characterized correctly.
Goofy isn't an idiot. He's an eccentric.
Now you scared me, Mr. Jensen, since I've always considered Goofy an idiot. A hilarious idiot, but still an idiot.
Only when he isn't characterized correctly.
Goofy isn't an idiot. He's an eccentric.
Now you scared me, Mr. Jensen, since I've always considered Goofy an idiot. A hilarious idiot, but still an idiot.
Chabacano
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 51 -
2011-09-25 at 02:32:18
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderYou know, when you think about it, Duckburg is a pretty sick place. Look at the above examples with Brigitta and Magica, and Robb_K genius post about Gyro in the topic "Barefeet Gyro". Then there's Daisy, one of my least favorite characters (as she is often, but not always written) because she's a pest to everyone. Donald, Gyro, even Scrooge. There's Donald, who's miserable life equals Daffy Duck's. Gladstone, who is the world's most selfish person when you think about it. Scrooge, for being a real Scrooge. Huey, Dewey and Louie too (they rarely play with kids their age, they're either JW's or brats). Goofy would be labeled in our world as "mentally retarded". Not to mention the rivalry between Scrooge, Glomgold and Rockerduck, which has passed the boundaries of ethics a long time ago. And the gigantic crime rate.
Yeah, Duckburg is a pretty sick place.
Yeah, the ducks and their friends aren't exactly healthy folks, but they are so cool that I just igone this fact. Brigitta is supposed to be a wacky middle-aged woman who wants desperately an old man. Magica, in turn, is supposed to be a wacky witch who thinks Scrooge's NOD is the best object in the whole world. Regarding Daisy, Barks really made her a girl hard to deal with. But I like this. She's like Lucy from Peanuts.
Yeah, Duckburg is a pretty sick place.
Yeah, the ducks and their friends aren't exactly healthy folks, but they are so cool that I just igone this fact. Brigitta is supposed to be a wacky middle-aged woman who wants desperately an old man. Magica, in turn, is supposed to be a wacky witch who thinks Scrooge's NOD is the best object in the whole world. Regarding Daisy, Barks really made her a girl hard to deal with. But I like this. She's like Lucy from Peanuts.
Robb_K
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 52 -
2011-09-25 at 03:48:15
Cartoon and comic figures have to be exaggerated to be effective. So,it is expected that they are definitely not well-balanced. A psychologically well-balanced character would be very dull. "Ward Clever comics" probably wouldn't sell.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 53 -
2011-09-25 at 14:11:24
...not that it's bad that cartoon characters are absolutely nuts, of course. ;) But since we were doing such a deep examination of Brigitta's character, I thought I'd mention this.
Cacou
Don Rosa at Rapallo
Message 54 -
2011-09-27 at 07:20:44
Chabacano, look at a story like "Love Trouble". Goofy is the only character, beside Mickey, who understand the true nature of Montmorency. Actually in many Gottfredson stories, Goofy is bright in the sense that he often understands things that others don't.