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In France on October 6, 1930 in Le Petit Parisien, below is the introductory strip (uploaded by COA contributor stan) :



This page gives other dates (which may only be lower bounds, as we say in maths)

http://coa.inducks.org/legend-country.php?view=2&c=1930

Italy: 1930-03-30
Norway: 1930-06-07
Germany: 1930-12-27

It seems the Swedish print is the second earliest print known in Inducks (after the US one of course).

In De Telegraaf (The Telegraph) of September 7th 1931 Mickey Mouse comics started, beginning with "Mickey Mouse and the Gypsies".
In Dutch, it was called "Mikkie, Minnie, Arabella en Bleskop bezoeken het zigeunerkamp". That's "Mikkey, Minnie, Arabelle and Blazehead visit the gypsy camp". The comic strip stopped in WW2, I think. After the war, in 1952, the regular weekly started up which is still being published today.

In Germany a handful of Mickey Mouse strips appeared between December of 1930 and April of 1931 in the newspaper Kölnische Illustrierte Zeitung (Cologne). > Inducks
In 1936/37 then, there was an own Disney title in German language, the Micky Maus Zeitung. (That magazine was however from Switzerland, not from Germany proper.) > Inducks
As far as I know, these were the only pre-1945 prints of Disney strips in the German-speaking countries. With the first Mouse strip appearing in March of 1930, Finland was definitely earlier.

Quote from user: Robb_KDid Finland cancel the strip during WWII when they were an ally of Germany?
No. It continued without interruption. Nazi strips were published after the war or dropped off.
But The Moook Treasure strip was slightly censored, when it was published in Helsingin sanomat in 1960, as we were next door neighbours to the Soviet Union and had a Finno-Soviet Treaty called "Agreement of Friendship, Cooperation, and Mutual Assistance". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Soviet_Treaty_of_1948
In Moook Treasure Mickey and Eega goes behind the iron curtain to the soviets and we see Black Pete as Russian commissar. Smile aid -strip (1950-05-26) was dropped off with few others.

Timo

Quote from user: Robb_KHitler didn't want American propaganda polluting the minds of "The Master Race". The Italian "Mickey Mouse" clone used during WWII was a funny action (was he called "Tuffalo"? or something like that? I can't remember if Hitler made his vassal states (war allies) (Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria) cancel their "Mickey Mouse" strip (or did they not have it during the '30s, anyway)?

Did Finland cancel the strip during WWII when they were an ally of Germany?
Disney stopped the export of films to Germany in 1935. The last Disney film that made it into the German cinemas was, in early 1935, "The Wise Little Hen" (with, as we all know, the first appearance of Donald Duck). As far as I read the story, the end of the export of Disney films to NS Germany was not motivated ideologically in the first instance, but the reason was the restriction of currency export by the German government. Anti-Disney agitation by the NS government grew probably larger with the time when there were also some (unsuccessful) tries later to build up an own German animation industry. But Disney was definitely rejected in the NS propaganda probably not before Germany and America were in war with each other (1941).--Personally, Hitler & Co. did not seem to have such a big problem with Disney. At least one always reads the odd story that Goebbels once gave Hitler Mickey Mouse cartoons as a birthday or christmas present ...

There is a book from 1992 by the German Disney expert Carsten Laqua that deals with that whole complex "Disney and Nazi Germany" (Wie Disney unter die Nazis fiel. Walt Disney und Deutschland > Amazon.de; there seems to be an English edition [planned?] > Amazon.com). I must admit, however, that I never read that thing. I grasp with insatiable longing every piece I can get about Donald Duck comics and Carl Barks, but I never really developed a strong interest in Disney generally and in the films and cartoons.

Was "Tuffalo" (never heard of that before) created in 1941/42? Disney strips and cartoons were probably a much too insignificant matter that they would have been subject of politics between Germany and her allied countries. But it seems logical that the export of Disney entertainment product to Italy stopped after Italy's declaration of war against the United States in December 1941, together with Germany. Since war was never declared between Finland and the United States this would explain why Disney strips could appear there through the whole war.

Cacou is right. In Italy, Mickey strips started to be diffused in March, not in July.
During the WWII, Hitler didn't want they were spread anymore here because of some Gottfredson strips, so, in 1942, F. Pedrocchi and P. L. DeVita created Tuffolino (instead of Topolino), Mimma (Minnie) and Clara (Clarabella).
http://web.tiscali.it/epierre/storia/img/tuffolino.jpg

In Brazil they started to publish the strip on the Tico-Tico Magazine from March 26th. As in Finland, it was not the very first strip that appear around here.