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...and an other one: http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/08/03/inceptions-plot-in-a-2004-uncle-scrooge-comic-book/ I already wrote about this 7 months ago! (See first post.) :D I am sure Nolan did not "steal" the plot of The Dream of a Lifetime but there are more in common between the movie and the comic than just a concept.

Quote from user: Robb_KI, myself, wrote a story about space aliens invading Donald's mind and trying to "force" him to do their bidding through dreams in his head.
Oh, there are far more similarities, trust me! Robb and Lars, go and watch the movie, really, there is no point in arguing without actually knowing what the plot of the movie is!

Ok, arguments supporting my case (I will quote http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/blinkuldhc/news/?a=21055 just because I am not that great at English and I do not have much time right now to use a dictionary.):

Dream of a Life Time: The Beagle Boys procure a contraption that was invented for psychiatrists to examine dreams by entering their patients' dreams, and the Beagle Boys intend to use the contraption for a different, illegal purpose.
Inception: The team procures a contraption that was invented for soldiers to train in simulated combat and warfare, and the team intends to use the contraption for a different, illegal purpose.

Dream of a Life Time: The Beagle Boys use the contraption to enter into McDuck's dream so they can attempt to extract the secret combination to unlock McDuck's vault.
Inception: The team uses the contraption to enter into Saito's dream so they can attempt to extract an undisclosed idea from the vault in his head.

Dream of a Life Time: If the Beagle Boys are still in McDuck's dream when he wakes up, they will be trapped in McDuck's head forever.
Inception: If someone is killed while in the dream of a heavily sedated dreamer, he will be trapped in the dream in a state called "limbo" -- which can last several decades.

Dream of a Life Time: Scrooge McDuck is aware that he is in a dream, and his subconscious characters, the Dalton Boys, shoot at the Beagle Boys upon encounter.
Inception: Saito is aware that he is in a dream, and his subconscious security guards shoot at Dom and capture Arthur.

Dream of a Life Time: The dream world starts to "evaporate" and defies the laws of physics.
Inception: The dream world starts to crumble and bend and defies the laws of physics.

Dream of a Life Time: When McDuck falls in the dream, he wakes up.
Inception: When a dreamer dies in the dream (while not heavily sedated), he wakes up.

Dream of a Life Time: McDuck travels from Texas to Australia simply by starting a new dream.
Inception: The team travels from apparently Los Angeles to Canada simply by entering a new dream.

Dream of a Life Time: When McDuck's nephew clangs two mugs together loudly next to Donald's ear while he's dreaming, Donald dreams about mugs falling from the sky.
Inception: When Dom is dunked in water while dreaming, Dom dreams about water gushing at him.

Dream of a Life Time: When Donald Duck thinks about cars, a stream of cars busts through his dream.
Inception: When Dom thinks about a train, a train busts through the dream.

Dream of a Life Time: When McDuck hears popping while he's sleeping, he dreams about popcorn popping.
Inception: When Yusuf drinks too much champagne before sleeping, he dreams about it raining.

Dream of a Life Time: Scrooge McDuck re-dreams one particular memory over and over again, which involves him missing out on his love, Goldie, because he gets hit in the head by an ice block.
Inception: Dom re-dreams one particular memory over and over again, which involves him losing his love, Mal, because she kills herself.

Dream of a Life Time: Through his dream, Scrooge McDuck tries to make it up to Goldie by reliving a memory of the two of them together.
Inception: Through his dream, Dom tries to make it up to Mal by reliving a memory of the two of them together.

Quote from user: Lars JensenAnd a question: what kind of machine is the "Inception machine"? I tried looking it up on Wikipedia, but didn't find an explanation there.
The machine in the movie is carried around in a small silver suitcase. They don't talk about the technology much. If I remember correctly they mentioned something about the military having used the technology for years, but it is common knowledge in Inception that the technology exists.

Quote from user: arthurQuote from user: Lars JensenAnd a question: what kind of machine is the "Inception machine"? I tried looking it up on Wikipedia, but didn't find an explanation there.
The machine in the movie is carried around in a small silver suitcase. They don't talk about the technology much. If I remember correctly they mentioned something about the military having used the technology for years, but it is common knowledge in Inception that the technology exists.
But we don't learn what kind of machine it is and what the machine's purpose actually is?

And by the same token, where did *Rosa* get his idea for the story??

Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: MorequackAnd by the same token, where did *Rosa* get his idea for the story??
See further up this thread. Post #6.
There's nothing new under the sun. Or at least, very little. I tend to to feel that folks who bellyache about being copycatted ought to pack up and move out of their glass houses.

Quote from user: rodneySeems that a lot of people have noticed similarities between the two. I'd say more folks familiar with both of them say that they're very close to the same than those who feel that they are not (which appears to mostly be Lars and Rob).
Not having seen the film, I NEVER said the two were not close to the same. I had only mentioned that the film's story would have to be at least 75% the same as Rosa's storyline, to give Rosa's lawyers a chance to win a lawsuit in a US court. After reading the written description of the similarities, I admitted that the two stories were VERY close (most probably NOT a coincidence). This is what I wrote above:

"Yes, it it clear that the two stories are VERY SIMILAR and have a lot of parallels. Nevertheless, to prove in a court of law that Rosa's story was "stolen" to make 'Inception' would be a difficult, if not impossible, undertaking. It may well be that Inception's author DID read Rosa's story, and then got "inspired" to write his story. I'll concede that."

The film's scriptor may well have gotten his idea for the film from reading Rosa's story. And he may have used that story too much (much more than just being "inspired" by it), and camouflaged his story detailed "copying" by changing only smaller details, like where and when actions took place, and names of characters and details about them (but they performed the basic functions in the story plot).

Maybe it is because my normal character is to be an extreme skeptic (not unlike Carl Barks, himself), that you had thought I continued being skeptical. But, despite still not having seen the film, I tend to believe that the several posters on this thread are NOT part of a conspiracy to make something up out of nothing, just to pass the time of day.