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Wow. Not a very noble exit from Taliaferro. I wonder if the presence of things such as this in the late sixties represents sort of a panicked, probably-unconscious reaction to the ascendancy of second-wave feminism--ie, people get freaked out by seismic changes to the status quo, and thus, they come up with last-ditch efforts to culturally reassert an increasing anachronistic norm.
And thanks for the link. I'm glad the post was of interest. I myself am far too modest and retiring to engage in much self-promotion, my signature notwithstanding.

Quote from user: cacou... this anonymous French cover:

http://outducks.org/fr/jm/1000/fr_jm_1374a_001.jpg
Hey, that French gag cover is the copy of one by Bob Gregory:

http://outducks.org/us/dad/0030/us_dad_030_00_001.jpg

(Daisy and Donald 30, May 1978)

By the way, seeing the flat tire "story" from 1955 or so in that essay of GeoX and Daisy's off-key acting there ... compared with that caliber one could almost speak of a triumph of emancipation 20 years later:

http://outducks.org/us/dad/0010/us_dad_010_00_001.jpg

I think you're misreading Lars, GeoX. He's just saying that overly flawed characters are easier to write gags for, whether those gags are funny??or stale??or prejudiced.

In the case of 1950s-1970s Daisy in particular, the urge to create these flaws translated into the lazy reuse of the most stereotypical "female" flaws ad infinitum. As in many cases, apart from being casually bigoted, the use of stereotypes was a substitute for imagination.
A quick look at Lars' own Duck stories, by contrast, reveals female characters (most obviously Agent Kolik and Boysenberry of TNT) who have flaws, like any human being, but not particularly stereotypical ones.

In the old days??particularly in newspaper strips??the gag was often that Daisy would complain about Donald's incompetence while being equally (or more!) incompetent herself. This meant that not only was she a klutz, she was either ignorant of the fact or hypocritical about it. Maybe she simply wanted to complain about Donald's incompetence to distract others from her own. It made you wonder why Donald should even care about her opinion.
Nowadays Daisy tends to be pretty competent most of the time, which I think makes her character both more sympathetic and more cohesive. She knows what she can do right and genuinely wants to improve Donald. She can still be a control freak about it; but at other times, so's Donald.

Yeah, okay, fair enough. That mindset doesn't necessarily result in a product with a lot of lasting value, though.

True (though even on a one-a-day-basis, that stuff could get boring fast, I have to think), but it could BECOME an issue if we're talking about mass reissues.

Quote from user: cacouIn many of those strips Daisy really is depicted as stupid, which I find somehow quite more annoying than depicting Scrooge as stingy.

Take for instance the Brazilian comics of the 80s, where Daisy really is an interesting and funny character.
But those are comic book stories, not strips.

Quote from user: SimWe're talkin' about Daisy in strip
Time to put a PG-16 sign on this thread, I suppose. ;)