Has there been any story that mentions Jones' first name? All I know is it's starts with a "J".
In the Swedish version of the story "Distance Makes The Heart Grow Fonder" http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=D+2006-300&search= his first name is spoken (Olmert Olsson), so I'm wondering if the English version does the same.
I have also seen somewhere that his first name is Jughead, as in Jughead Jones but as that name is already in use in the Archie Comics, I doubt that's his name...
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Topic: What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
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Quackberg
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
Message 1 -
2010-07-09 at 11:18:08
Roger North
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
Message 2 -
2010-07-09 at 11:46:08
It was Jughead until Archie Comics threatened to sue Western Publishing for using that name. I don't know what it is but I think his name might be Jay.
Sim
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
Message 3 -
2010-07-09 at 12:02:33
In Italy, he's called "Jimmy" by his mother... ;)
Gerd Syllwasschy
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
Message 4 -
2010-07-09 at 16:00:27
Was it really "Jughead"? Barks never mentioned his first name. However, in one story you could read "J. Jones" on his letterbox.
There was a guy called "Jughead Jones" in the ten-pager in US 6, but he was clearly not the Mr. Jones we all know.
There was a guy called "Jughead Jones" in the ten-pager in US 6, but he was clearly not the Mr. Jones we all know.
Robb_K
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
Message 5 -
2010-07-09 at 20:07:07
According to Barks, Jughead Jones lived next to Donald. Also, Neighbor J. Jones lived next to Donald. The Jones family must have kept ownership of that house. Not likely that Donald was surrounded by people named Jones. Maybe Jughead lived there first, and couldn't stand Donald. So he moved out and let his brother, John Jones, live there upon his departure. Of course, his first name could also have been: Jerry, Jonathan, Joe, James, Jamey, Jack, Jackson, Jeroen, Jeremiah, Jesus, José, Jan, Jeffrey, Jacob, Judah, Jude, Judd, Jedediah, Jed, Jocko, Joshua, Josiah, Josea, Jeshua, Josh, Jocomo, Jacques, Jeries, Jonah, Jonas, Jermaine, Jellybelly....etc.
But, I vote for John.
At least we know he wasn't "Jon Jonzz, Man from Mars"!
But, I vote for John.
At least we know he wasn't "Jon Jonzz, Man from Mars"!
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
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2010-07-09 at 20:45:53
Also, the Dutch Jones has a first name. Bertus Bolderbast. Bertus is also the Dutch name of Scrooge's butler in Italian stories. Maybe nice to know.
Gerd Syllwasschy
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
Message 7 -
2010-07-09 at 20:53:51
I like the name "Bolderbast". Very figurative.
Quackberg
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
Message 8 -
2010-07-09 at 21:37:32
That Jughead Jones fellow in US 6 might be J. Jones - but his face isn't the same as J. Jones (even though the hair color and the hairdo is quite the same...) and he's way too nice to be old J.J. So it's probably not the Jones we are thinking of, so his first name could be almost anything, especially in the Donald Duck universe, staring with a "J". When I think of Jones' name I don't think of common names as John or Jim etc. but of names just like Jughead or names of characters like Slackjaw Snorehead... But I haven't figured out a name I like yet...
Quackberg
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
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2010-07-09 at 23:01:38
Ok, here is one name that could be Jones' full name: Jumbo Jones, Jr.
I think that "Jumbo" might fit as Jones' first name as Jones is kinda fat and I added the Junior-part mostly because to add another "J".
I think that "Jumbo" might fit as Jones' first name as Jones is kinda fat and I added the Junior-part mostly because to add another "J".
Robb_K
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
Message 10 -
2010-07-10 at 00:56:04
Quote from user: QuackbergOk, here is one name that could be Jones' full name: Jumbo Jones, Jr.
I think that "Jumbo" might fit as Jones' first name as Jones is kinda fat and I added the Junior-part mostly because to add another "J".
I think that "Jellybelly" sounds more Barksish. In fact, he even mentioned that to me as a potential chubby supporting character's name. Jellybelly J. Jones, Jr. (Middle "J" standing for "Junkbutt".
Of course, Barks chose Jones, because Smith and Jones were the two most common American names during the 1800s and the beginning of the 1900s, before the mass migration of Latin Americans, Asians, Pacific Islanders Eastern Europeans, etc. That made Jones an "everyman". That was ironic, as Jones was NOT the common man, but the extreme "overreacting man"-as was Donald. That made for great, exaggerated explosive situations.
Jones should have been named Schmidt or Müller in Germany, Hansen or Larsen in Denmark, Garcia in Mexico, Wong in China, Kim in Korea, etc.
I think that "Jumbo" might fit as Jones' first name as Jones is kinda fat and I added the Junior-part mostly because to add another "J".
I think that "Jellybelly" sounds more Barksish. In fact, he even mentioned that to me as a potential chubby supporting character's name. Jellybelly J. Jones, Jr. (Middle "J" standing for "Junkbutt".
Of course, Barks chose Jones, because Smith and Jones were the two most common American names during the 1800s and the beginning of the 1900s, before the mass migration of Latin Americans, Asians, Pacific Islanders Eastern Europeans, etc. That made Jones an "everyman". That was ironic, as Jones was NOT the common man, but the extreme "overreacting man"-as was Donald. That made for great, exaggerated explosive situations.
Jones should have been named Schmidt or Müller in Germany, Hansen or Larsen in Denmark, Garcia in Mexico, Wong in China, Kim in Korea, etc.
Hedberg
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
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2010-07-10 at 06:36:25
Quote from user: Robb_KJones should have been named Schmidt or Müller in Germany, Hansen or Larsen in Denmark, Garcia in Mexico, Wong in China, Kim in Korea, etc.
He's mostly called either "Neighbor" or Knahrvorn in Denmark (Knahrvorn is not even a "real" name, but could be interpreted as a grumpy or mean person )
He has been called ordinary sir name as Jensen, occasionally...
I like the Jellybelly part, Robb, ha ha...
He's mostly called either "Neighbor" or Knahrvorn in Denmark (Knahrvorn is not even a "real" name, but could be interpreted as a grumpy or mean person )
He has been called ordinary sir name as Jensen, occasionally...
I like the Jellybelly part, Robb, ha ha...
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
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2010-07-10 at 11:56:51
Quote from user: QuackbergThat Jughead Jones fellow in US 6 might be J. Jones - but his face isn't the same as J. Jones (even though the hair color and the hairdo is quite the same...) and he's way too nice to be old J.J.
Over the years Barks drew Jones differently, just like Gladstone Gander in his oil paintings. It still might be J. Jones, altough that would mean he lives in between Donald and Gyro. I think he'd move as soon as he could. :)
Over the years Barks drew Jones differently, just like Gladstone Gander in his oil paintings. It still might be J. Jones, altough that would mean he lives in between Donald and Gyro. I think he'd move as soon as he could. :)
Robb_K
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
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2010-07-10 at 18:48:15
I have the feeling that Barks just was "lazy" in this one case, and didn't look back at his model sheet for Neighbor Jones that he'd drawn from his first story with him in 1943. Normally, he looked at that model sheet, to make sure he kept the character's looks consistent. I think he intended Jughead to be the same "Neighbor Jones" in this Uncle Scrooge story, but drew him from "memory". This shows us that even a master, must really know what something looks like, or drawing it will result in something very different.
As an artist, I quickly realised the difference between paying attention to things I look at and just glancing at them, and assuming I know what they looked like. When I tried to draw pictures of my family from memory, and then looked at photos of them, or saw them in person, I realised that I never really paid attention to what they looked like, despite "seeing" them every day. Most normal people pay little attention to the way things and people really look. We have impressions of what things look like. But, when we try to draw them, we understand that those impressions are far from reality.
As an artist, I quickly realised the difference between paying attention to things I look at and just glancing at them, and assuming I know what they looked like. When I tried to draw pictures of my family from memory, and then looked at photos of them, or saw them in person, I realised that I never really paid attention to what they looked like, despite "seeing" them every day. Most normal people pay little attention to the way things and people really look. We have impressions of what things look like. But, when we try to draw them, we understand that those impressions are far from reality.
Ramapith
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
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2010-07-10 at 19:15:18
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderOver the years Barks drew Jones differently, just like Gladstone Gander in his oil paintings. It still might be J. Jones [in the US 6 story].
Agreed.
The US 6 story is based on an earlier Barks story featuring Barney Bear and Mooseface McElk. While Barks apparently didn't create the character of Mooseface, he used him as an unmistakable J. Jones surrogate in 1946-47, opposite Barney's "Donald" role.
It seems quite obvious to me that when Barks decided to reuse the treasure hunt plot for US 6, his thought process must have gone something lke this: "Okay, so in the original version of this plot, Barney was competing with his neighbor Mooseface. Who will Donald compete with?... Hmm, how about that neighbor character I used to use with Donald??Jones, wasn't it? Yeah, I'll use him."
So Barks (as I imagine it) redrew Jones from memory; most critically leaving off his angry eyebrows, leading to a significantly different look.
The resulting "Jughead" may not be as mean as the Jones of 1945, but he still scoffingly calls Donald "ducko"; and if one looks at the Mooseface stories, one finds Mooseface's meanness level varying from story to story.
Another story from the same period could support my theory of Barks' working from memory. In W WDC 168-01, Donald's nephews have a pet chipmunk named Cheltenham. In W WDC 179-02, they have a pet squirrel named Sidney; at first glance there would seem to be no relation between the two stories, nor the two animals??squirrels and chipmunks have different kinds of tails.
Yet in W WDC 179-02, all uses of the name "Sidney" are written in by a hand that is not original. The name doesn't fit in the voice balloons, where a much longer name was visibly there before (example: page 8, pic 3). Thus my theory: Barks reused Cheltenham from memory, turning him from a chipmunk into a squirrel in the process. His editors caught the inconsistency and "fixed" it by giving the squirrel version a new name.
If Barks could misremember a chipmunk as a squirrel, he could forget Jones' eyebrows, too. Of course, I don't really know what happened in either case.
Agreed.
The US 6 story is based on an earlier Barks story featuring Barney Bear and Mooseface McElk. While Barks apparently didn't create the character of Mooseface, he used him as an unmistakable J. Jones surrogate in 1946-47, opposite Barney's "Donald" role.
It seems quite obvious to me that when Barks decided to reuse the treasure hunt plot for US 6, his thought process must have gone something lke this: "Okay, so in the original version of this plot, Barney was competing with his neighbor Mooseface. Who will Donald compete with?... Hmm, how about that neighbor character I used to use with Donald??Jones, wasn't it? Yeah, I'll use him."
So Barks (as I imagine it) redrew Jones from memory; most critically leaving off his angry eyebrows, leading to a significantly different look.
The resulting "Jughead" may not be as mean as the Jones of 1945, but he still scoffingly calls Donald "ducko"; and if one looks at the Mooseface stories, one finds Mooseface's meanness level varying from story to story.
Another story from the same period could support my theory of Barks' working from memory. In W WDC 168-01, Donald's nephews have a pet chipmunk named Cheltenham. In W WDC 179-02, they have a pet squirrel named Sidney; at first glance there would seem to be no relation between the two stories, nor the two animals??squirrels and chipmunks have different kinds of tails.
Yet in W WDC 179-02, all uses of the name "Sidney" are written in by a hand that is not original. The name doesn't fit in the voice balloons, where a much longer name was visibly there before (example: page 8, pic 3). Thus my theory: Barks reused Cheltenham from memory, turning him from a chipmunk into a squirrel in the process. His editors caught the inconsistency and "fixed" it by giving the squirrel version a new name.
If Barks could misremember a chipmunk as a squirrel, he could forget Jones' eyebrows, too. Of course, I don't really know what happened in either case.
Hedberg
What's Neighbor Jones' first name?
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2010-07-10 at 19:35:54
Gyro had a mean neighbor too, if I'm not wrong!?
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