Quote from user: KneonGiven the controversy surrounding this film, I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been more noise made about the stereotyping of native Americans in Peter Pan...
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Topic: 'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
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Morequack
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 46 -
2010-05-05 at 00:52:07
Kneon
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 47 -
2010-05-05 at 02:54:41
Quote from user: MorequackQuote from user: KneonGiven the controversy surrounding this film, I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been more noise made about the stereotyping of native Americans in Peter Pan...
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What I was trying to point out here was that Disney's censorship policy seems to be all over the place, as GeoX has said. No amount of pixie dust could make a song like "What Makes the Red Man Red?" fly with audiences in 2010. Yet Peter Pan has gotten, what, two DVD releases over the past decade? Geez, the kids even SMOKE a questionable substance from a pipe. Yet there's no censorship, no disclaimers. Go figure.
Well, they could always pull a Mammy Two Shoes and just reshoot all the live-action footage... ;)
Atlanta Braves. Washington Redskins. Cleveland Indians.
What I was trying to point out here was that Disney's censorship policy seems to be all over the place, as GeoX has said. No amount of pixie dust could make a song like "What Makes the Red Man Red?" fly with audiences in 2010. Yet Peter Pan has gotten, what, two DVD releases over the past decade? Geez, the kids even SMOKE a questionable substance from a pipe. Yet there's no censorship, no disclaimers. Go figure.
Well, they could always pull a Mammy Two Shoes and just reshoot all the live-action footage... ;)
Robb_K
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 48 -
2010-05-05 at 04:32:50
There's great animation in that film, and it is a part of history. I see no reason not to allow it to be shown, with a preface by Leonard Maltin, to put it in perspective. It does NOT advocate treating certain "races"/breeding groups differently and unfairly. It just shows us what a significant portion of American society thought in the mid 1940s. I see no reason not to show the TV show, "Amos 'N' Andy, despite its showing some stereotypes of African Americans. I see no reason to also censor Mickey Mouse comic strips with racist drawings and scenarios. They could be released with an appropriate preface to put them in the proper context. Should we also not allow pictures of what The Nazis did to be seen by anyone?
GeoX
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 49 -
2010-05-05 at 04:55:19
I feel like I'm losing my mind here. As I've repeatedly noted, NOBODY here has argued in favor of censoring ANYTHING. Why, then, do certain people keep ferociously reacting as if someone HAD?
Also, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, "Strange Fruit" notwithstanding, midcentury American racism still isn't QUITE on the same level as the Holocaust.
Also, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, "Strange Fruit" notwithstanding, midcentury American racism still isn't QUITE on the same level as the Holocaust.
Kneon
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 50 -
2010-05-05 at 13:51:36
The only people who seem to be in favor of censoring 'Song of the South' is Disney itself. Even the NAACP doesn't have an official stance on the film, according to this: http://www.songofthesouth.net/faq/index.html
I think it should be released, but viewed from some historical perspective. It's a relic from another era, and I think most people would understand that (at least the people who would even be interested in buying the film, anyway.) Like GeoX has said, Peter Pan is as "racially insensitive" but is still widely available, unedited.
This controversy must seem very, very strange to our international friends. The only reason I posted the link in the first place was to tie it back into Disney comics, elaborating on why the Br'ers have all but been erased from existence here in the U.S. save for the sporadic comic book appearance and the Splash Mountain ride.
I think it should be released, but viewed from some historical perspective. It's a relic from another era, and I think most people would understand that (at least the people who would even be interested in buying the film, anyway.) Like GeoX has said, Peter Pan is as "racially insensitive" but is still widely available, unedited.
This controversy must seem very, very strange to our international friends. The only reason I posted the link in the first place was to tie it back into Disney comics, elaborating on why the Br'ers have all but been erased from existence here in the U.S. save for the sporadic comic book appearance and the Splash Mountain ride.
Kneon
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 51 -
2010-05-05 at 14:13:37
Here's Jim Hill's insight on the behind the scenes politics involved in a SotS re-release. It also explains why it got a theatrical release in 1986 (to make Splash Mountain happen.) This was written in 2003, and he was wrong -- it's 2010 and still no DVD.
Jeese. I don't know what to tell you here, Ryan. Given that Buena Vista Home Entertainment is really beginnng to scrape the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the Disney film vault (Coming soon from BVHE to a retailer near you: "The Don Knotts Collection." As if there are really people out there who are truly desperate to add the DVDs of "Gus" and "The Apple Dumpling Gang Rides Again" to their collection), I know that they'd really love to put a title like "Song of the South" out there in the marketplace. A movie that Disneyana fans and animation buffs have been begging for for years now. A title that would be sure to sell 10-12 million units easy.
But -- that said -- seriously wonder if Disney will ever dare to put "Song of the South" out on home video and DVD in Region 1 (I.E. the United States and Canada). I mean, if the former head of Disney Feature Animation Thomas Schumacher is to be believed, "SOTS" is now supposedly on permanent moratorium.
And what exactly is "permanent moratorium?" Is it the Disney-esque equivalent of Dean Wormer's infamous "Double Secret Probation?" Actually, what "permanent moratorium" supposedly means (in this case, anyway) is that the Walt Disney Company has no intentions to ever put "Song of the South" back into theatrical release here in the U.S. Nor does the corporation have any plans to release this live action / animated feature in the home video or DVD format here in North America.
Which is unfortunate. Not to mention hypocritical. After all, Disney's "Song of the South" has been readily available for purchase in the Orient for years now. (Why else do you think that all those video versions of "Song of the South" that sell on eBay have Japanese subtitles? That's because they're direct dubs off of the "SOTS" laser disc.)
Why exactly would Disney make "Song of the South" available for sale in Asia but not in North America? Basically BVHE's international arm believes that there aren't many African-Americans there who would complain about the film's portrayal of blacks.
Which is kind of a two faced policy, don't you think? That Disney pretends to care about the feelings of its black customers here in North America ... then abandons that pretense in the Orient.
But this sadly has become standard operating procedure with the modern Walt Disney Company: to give the impression that the company actually cares about something, rather than actually caring.
This actually reminds me of the last time that Walt Disney Studios put "Song of the South" out in theaters here in the U.S. That was back in 1986. Just two years after Michael Eisner took control of the Mouse House.
If the Walt Disney Company is really so concerned about the feelings of African Americans, then why did the studio put this allegedly offensive film back into theaters?
Well, actually there's kind of an interesting story associated with that particular re-release of "Song of the South." You see, Tony Baxter and the Imagineers who were working on "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah River Run" (a new flume ride that was being proposed for construction at Disneyland in the late 1980s) were leaning heavily on Eisner to allow them to use the characters and settings from "Song of the South" to help theme this attraction.
And Uncle Michael actually liked the idea of adding a flume ride to Disneyland. It's just that Disney's CEO was somewhat squeamish about the attraction's proposed subject matter. Eisner was worried that a ride that was built around Uncle Remus might unintentionally offend African-Americans. Which might result in Disneyland being picketed by the NAACP.
Still the Imagineers persisted, insisting that this proposed Disneyland flume ride wouldn't work unless they were allowed to build "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah River Run"'s storyline around the "Song of the South" characters and settings.
This is why -- as sort of a litmus test for this attraction -- Eisner ordered that "Song of the South" be put into an extremely limited release in the Fall of 1986. If I'm remembering correctly, the film was only out in theaters for two weeks. Three weeks max. Before "SOTS" was quickly pulled and put back in the vault.
Given that no one wrote to the Walt Disney Company while "Song of the South" was playing in theaters here in the U.S. to complain about the film's portrayal of its black characters (and -- more importantly -- given that "SOTS" actually did pretty well at the box office during its limited re-release), Eisner finally gave the Imagineers the okay to use the movie's characters and settings in their proposed Disneyland flume attraction.
However, just to play it safe, Uncle Michael ordered that all references to Uncle Remus be removed from the ride; that's why the narrator in the queue area is clearly identified as Brer Frog. Eisner also asked that -- to further distance this thrill ride from the somewhat controversial "Song of the South" -- that WDI drop the name "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah River Run" in favor of something a bit more generic. Which is how Disneyland's flume ride ended up being called "Splash Mountain."
Anyway ... Rick, you asked me if Disney has any plans to release "Song of the South" on home video and DVD. Well, given this "permanent moratorium" nonsense, the Mouse is now insisting that this particular film will never ever see the light of day again ... at least here in the United States.
Which is really interesting. Given that -- as recently as three years ago -- Buena Vista Home Entertainment was actively exploring ways they could release "SOTS" on home video and DVD here in the U.S.
Of course, in order to make this title palatable to the general public during these increasingly politically correct times, BVHE knew that it had to package this film just right. Which is why (for a time) Disney toyed with the idea of selling a version of "Song of the South" that would have been preceded by a showing of Walt Disney Feature Animation's new short, "John Henry."
You see, Buena Vista Home Entertainment's idea was to persuade a prominent African-American like James Earl Jones, Morgan Freeman or Dr. Maya Angelou to serve as the MC on this DVD / home video. Someone who could introduce "Song of the South," explaining the film's historical significance as well as re-enforcing the idea that "SOTS" was a product of a less enlightened time in Hollywood.
Then -- once "Song of the South" finished being shown -- the film's host would then introduce "John Henry." Which (hopefully) would demonstrate the great strides that the Walt Disney Company had made in its depiction of and attitudes toward African-Americans.
It seemed like a pretty fool-proof scheme. Using the device of a prominent African-American narrator to help put "Song of the South" in proper perspective. A framework which would (hopefully) make "SOTS" more palatable (or -- at the very least -- less distasteful to) African American consumers.
The only problem was ... Buena Vista Home Entertainment reportedly approached the wrong African American first. The way I keep hearing this story, the very first person that BVHE went to in their quest to recruit a narrator / host for their "Song of the South" / "John Henry" home video and DVD project was poet Maya Angelou. Angelou supposedly loved "John Henry" when WDFA screened the short for her, but was deeply offended by "SOTS." The noted author then allegedly told the reps at Buena Vista Home Entertainment that -- if they ever dared to put "Song of the South" up for sale in the United States -- that she personally would take part in the protests.
That threat was reportedly enough for the Walt Disney Company to order "Song of the South" back into the vault ... never to see the light of day again.
And that framing device that Buena Vista Home Entertainment dreamed up for its proposed "Song of the South" / "John Henry" combo release? That concept actually ended up being used on BVHE's "American Legends" release. That home video and DVD (which was released back in 2001) featured James Earl Jones as its host/narrator. In which the noted African American actor introduced "John Henry," "Johnny Appleseed," "Paul Bunyan" and Casey Jones, "The Brave Engineer."
Still -- as Buena Vista Home Entertainment struggles to find other older Disney film titles to put up for sale on home video and DVD -- you have to wonder if the temptation to release "Song of the South" will eventually become too great. That -- even with the outcry from African-Americans that is almost certain to accompany the re-release of this film -- that this still could end up being a profitable venture for the Mouse. That -- if BVHE were eventually able to move 10-12 million units of "SOTS" -- that all of the agita and anxiety associated with this movie's home video and DVD release would ultimately be worth it.
My advice, Ryan? Keep an eye on Buena Vista Home Entertainment. If this division of the Walt Disney Company's upcoming releases -- "Treasure Planet," "Atlantis II: Milo's Return," and the colorized version of "The Absent Minded Professor" -- don't exactly set the retail world on fire, BVHE execs may feel that they have no choice but to revisit the company's decision to put "SOTS" on permanent moratorium.
After all, this was the corporation that said that Disneyland's "Main Street Electric Parade" was " ... glowing away forever." So -- if that parade can come back to Anaheim -- chances are pretty good that "Song of the South" won't actually be stuck in Disney's film vaults forever.
So just be patient, Ryan. The smart money is on a video and DVD version of "Song of the South" actually being available for purchase long before this decade is out.
source: http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2003/01/26/348.aspx
Jeese. I don't know what to tell you here, Ryan. Given that Buena Vista Home Entertainment is really beginnng to scrape the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the Disney film vault (Coming soon from BVHE to a retailer near you: "The Don Knotts Collection." As if there are really people out there who are truly desperate to add the DVDs of "Gus" and "The Apple Dumpling Gang Rides Again" to their collection), I know that they'd really love to put a title like "Song of the South" out there in the marketplace. A movie that Disneyana fans and animation buffs have been begging for for years now. A title that would be sure to sell 10-12 million units easy.
But -- that said -- seriously wonder if Disney will ever dare to put "Song of the South" out on home video and DVD in Region 1 (I.E. the United States and Canada). I mean, if the former head of Disney Feature Animation Thomas Schumacher is to be believed, "SOTS" is now supposedly on permanent moratorium.
And what exactly is "permanent moratorium?" Is it the Disney-esque equivalent of Dean Wormer's infamous "Double Secret Probation?" Actually, what "permanent moratorium" supposedly means (in this case, anyway) is that the Walt Disney Company has no intentions to ever put "Song of the South" back into theatrical release here in the U.S. Nor does the corporation have any plans to release this live action / animated feature in the home video or DVD format here in North America.
Which is unfortunate. Not to mention hypocritical. After all, Disney's "Song of the South" has been readily available for purchase in the Orient for years now. (Why else do you think that all those video versions of "Song of the South" that sell on eBay have Japanese subtitles? That's because they're direct dubs off of the "SOTS" laser disc.)
Why exactly would Disney make "Song of the South" available for sale in Asia but not in North America? Basically BVHE's international arm believes that there aren't many African-Americans there who would complain about the film's portrayal of blacks.
Which is kind of a two faced policy, don't you think? That Disney pretends to care about the feelings of its black customers here in North America ... then abandons that pretense in the Orient.
But this sadly has become standard operating procedure with the modern Walt Disney Company: to give the impression that the company actually cares about something, rather than actually caring.
This actually reminds me of the last time that Walt Disney Studios put "Song of the South" out in theaters here in the U.S. That was back in 1986. Just two years after Michael Eisner took control of the Mouse House.
If the Walt Disney Company is really so concerned about the feelings of African Americans, then why did the studio put this allegedly offensive film back into theaters?
Well, actually there's kind of an interesting story associated with that particular re-release of "Song of the South." You see, Tony Baxter and the Imagineers who were working on "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah River Run" (a new flume ride that was being proposed for construction at Disneyland in the late 1980s) were leaning heavily on Eisner to allow them to use the characters and settings from "Song of the South" to help theme this attraction.
And Uncle Michael actually liked the idea of adding a flume ride to Disneyland. It's just that Disney's CEO was somewhat squeamish about the attraction's proposed subject matter. Eisner was worried that a ride that was built around Uncle Remus might unintentionally offend African-Americans. Which might result in Disneyland being picketed by the NAACP.
Still the Imagineers persisted, insisting that this proposed Disneyland flume ride wouldn't work unless they were allowed to build "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah River Run"'s storyline around the "Song of the South" characters and settings.
This is why -- as sort of a litmus test for this attraction -- Eisner ordered that "Song of the South" be put into an extremely limited release in the Fall of 1986. If I'm remembering correctly, the film was only out in theaters for two weeks. Three weeks max. Before "SOTS" was quickly pulled and put back in the vault.
Given that no one wrote to the Walt Disney Company while "Song of the South" was playing in theaters here in the U.S. to complain about the film's portrayal of its black characters (and -- more importantly -- given that "SOTS" actually did pretty well at the box office during its limited re-release), Eisner finally gave the Imagineers the okay to use the movie's characters and settings in their proposed Disneyland flume attraction.
However, just to play it safe, Uncle Michael ordered that all references to Uncle Remus be removed from the ride; that's why the narrator in the queue area is clearly identified as Brer Frog. Eisner also asked that -- to further distance this thrill ride from the somewhat controversial "Song of the South" -- that WDI drop the name "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah River Run" in favor of something a bit more generic. Which is how Disneyland's flume ride ended up being called "Splash Mountain."
Anyway ... Rick, you asked me if Disney has any plans to release "Song of the South" on home video and DVD. Well, given this "permanent moratorium" nonsense, the Mouse is now insisting that this particular film will never ever see the light of day again ... at least here in the United States.
Which is really interesting. Given that -- as recently as three years ago -- Buena Vista Home Entertainment was actively exploring ways they could release "SOTS" on home video and DVD here in the U.S.
Of course, in order to make this title palatable to the general public during these increasingly politically correct times, BVHE knew that it had to package this film just right. Which is why (for a time) Disney toyed with the idea of selling a version of "Song of the South" that would have been preceded by a showing of Walt Disney Feature Animation's new short, "John Henry."
You see, Buena Vista Home Entertainment's idea was to persuade a prominent African-American like James Earl Jones, Morgan Freeman or Dr. Maya Angelou to serve as the MC on this DVD / home video. Someone who could introduce "Song of the South," explaining the film's historical significance as well as re-enforcing the idea that "SOTS" was a product of a less enlightened time in Hollywood.
Then -- once "Song of the South" finished being shown -- the film's host would then introduce "John Henry." Which (hopefully) would demonstrate the great strides that the Walt Disney Company had made in its depiction of and attitudes toward African-Americans.
It seemed like a pretty fool-proof scheme. Using the device of a prominent African-American narrator to help put "Song of the South" in proper perspective. A framework which would (hopefully) make "SOTS" more palatable (or -- at the very least -- less distasteful to) African American consumers.
The only problem was ... Buena Vista Home Entertainment reportedly approached the wrong African American first. The way I keep hearing this story, the very first person that BVHE went to in their quest to recruit a narrator / host for their "Song of the South" / "John Henry" home video and DVD project was poet Maya Angelou. Angelou supposedly loved "John Henry" when WDFA screened the short for her, but was deeply offended by "SOTS." The noted author then allegedly told the reps at Buena Vista Home Entertainment that -- if they ever dared to put "Song of the South" up for sale in the United States -- that she personally would take part in the protests.
That threat was reportedly enough for the Walt Disney Company to order "Song of the South" back into the vault ... never to see the light of day again.
And that framing device that Buena Vista Home Entertainment dreamed up for its proposed "Song of the South" / "John Henry" combo release? That concept actually ended up being used on BVHE's "American Legends" release. That home video and DVD (which was released back in 2001) featured James Earl Jones as its host/narrator. In which the noted African American actor introduced "John Henry," "Johnny Appleseed," "Paul Bunyan" and Casey Jones, "The Brave Engineer."
Still -- as Buena Vista Home Entertainment struggles to find other older Disney film titles to put up for sale on home video and DVD -- you have to wonder if the temptation to release "Song of the South" will eventually become too great. That -- even with the outcry from African-Americans that is almost certain to accompany the re-release of this film -- that this still could end up being a profitable venture for the Mouse. That -- if BVHE were eventually able to move 10-12 million units of "SOTS" -- that all of the agita and anxiety associated with this movie's home video and DVD release would ultimately be worth it.
My advice, Ryan? Keep an eye on Buena Vista Home Entertainment. If this division of the Walt Disney Company's upcoming releases -- "Treasure Planet," "Atlantis II: Milo's Return," and the colorized version of "The Absent Minded Professor" -- don't exactly set the retail world on fire, BVHE execs may feel that they have no choice but to revisit the company's decision to put "SOTS" on permanent moratorium.
After all, this was the corporation that said that Disneyland's "Main Street Electric Parade" was " ... glowing away forever." So -- if that parade can come back to Anaheim -- chances are pretty good that "Song of the South" won't actually be stuck in Disney's film vaults forever.
So just be patient, Ryan. The smart money is on a video and DVD version of "Song of the South" actually being available for purchase long before this decade is out.
source: http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2003/01/26/348.aspx
Lars Jensen
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 52 -
2010-05-05 at 15:51:38
Quote from user: KneonHere's Jim Hill's insight on the behind the scenes politics involved in a SotS re-release. It also explains why it got a theatrical release in 1986 (to make Splash Mountain happen.) This was written in 2003, and he was wrong -- it's 2010 and still no DVD.
Without offending anyone: Jim Hill has been wrong more than once. Also, when anyone uses the phrases "supposedly" and "reportedly" that often in an article... That person isn't certain his or her interpretation of events is correct. If you ever see me state that Creator X is supposedly working on Life and Times of Moby Duck, you'll know I have only heard more or less vague rumors about this.
And I would love to own the DVDs of "Gus" and "The Apple Dumpling Gang Rides Again".
Without offending anyone: Jim Hill has been wrong more than once. Also, when anyone uses the phrases "supposedly" and "reportedly" that often in an article... That person isn't certain his or her interpretation of events is correct. If you ever see me state that Creator X is supposedly working on Life and Times of Moby Duck, you'll know I have only heard more or less vague rumors about this.
And I would love to own the DVDs of "Gus" and "The Apple Dumpling Gang Rides Again".
Kneon
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 53 -
2010-05-05 at 17:56:51
I'm not offended. And I love Don Knotts. ;)
GeoX
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 54 -
2010-05-05 at 18:58:28
Man, The Life and Times of Moby Duck. Dare to dream!
Morequack
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 55 -
2010-05-05 at 19:53:41
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Cacou
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 56 -
2010-05-06 at 13:06:32
Hey people,
It seems this discussion is getting more and more off-topic, oriented about censoring/racism etc. Keep in mind that references to the NAACP may not be understood by people who are not from the US.
Since all these subjects are not really the purpose of this forum, maybe we should go back to mice and ducks again.
It seems this discussion is getting more and more off-topic, oriented about censoring/racism etc. Keep in mind that references to the NAACP may not be understood by people who are not from the US.
Since all these subjects are not really the purpose of this forum, maybe we should go back to mice and ducks again.
Hedberg
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 57 -
2010-05-06 at 14:10:11
...and rabbits, bears, foxes and Tarbabies...
The animated sequences in SotS are still great!
The animated sequences in SotS are still great!
VoBo
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 58 -
2010-05-06 at 15:07:38
Quote from user: Hedberg...and rabbits, bears, foxes and Tarbabies...
The animated sequences in SotS are still great!
Rabbits? RABBITS???? Hedberg, are you a RABIST? ;)
And to all defenders of the right for the descendants of slaves/indians etc. to ban cartoons/comics I find funny,
I'M JUST KIDDING!
Leave those good old cartoons/comics alone and concentrate on how those descendants
are treated today in the States if you really care.
As cacou says, let's go back to mice and men, ehh, ducks!
You are trying to fight a war that the "poor" people involved/depicted don't even care about.
The animated sequences in SotS are still great!
Rabbits? RABBITS???? Hedberg, are you a RABIST? ;)
And to all defenders of the right for the descendants of slaves/indians etc. to ban cartoons/comics I find funny,
I'M JUST KIDDING!
Leave those good old cartoons/comics alone and concentrate on how those descendants
are treated today in the States if you really care.
As cacou says, let's go back to mice and men, ehh, ducks!
You are trying to fight a war that the "poor" people involved/depicted don't even care about.
Lars Jensen
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 59 -
2010-05-06 at 16:40:11
Quote from user: VoBoRabbits? RABBITS???? Hedberg, are you a RABIST? ;)
And to all defenders of the right for the descendants of slaves/indians etc. to ban cartoons/comics I find funny,
I'M JUST KIDDING!
Leave those good old cartoons/comics alone and concentrate on how those descendants
are treated today in the States if you really care.
As cacou says, let's go back to mice and men, ehh, ducks!
You are trying to fight a war that the "poor" people involved/depicted don't even care about.
As GeoX has pointed out a now-countless number of times:
Quote from user: GeoXNOBODY here has argued in favor of censoring ANYTHING.
And yes, now let's get back to talking about Disney characters.
And to all defenders of the right for the descendants of slaves/indians etc. to ban cartoons/comics I find funny,
I'M JUST KIDDING!
Leave those good old cartoons/comics alone and concentrate on how those descendants
are treated today in the States if you really care.
As cacou says, let's go back to mice and men, ehh, ducks!
You are trying to fight a war that the "poor" people involved/depicted don't even care about.
As GeoX has pointed out a now-countless number of times:
Quote from user: GeoXNOBODY here has argued in favor of censoring ANYTHING.
And yes, now let's get back to talking about Disney characters.
Kneon
'Song of the South' makes Time's 'Top 10 Controversial Cartoons' list
Message 60 -
2010-06-04 at 15:10:40
Just one last bit here... today there's word that SotS may be seeing a release after all...? Online, that is:
http://bit.ly/bqvpdw
Had a chance to watch the Brers in a hoedown at Walt Disney World last week, so the cartoon characters themselves certainly haven't been vaulted. At least in the theme parks, they still have quite a presence. Brer Rabbit even appears on a tiny statue in front of Cinderella's castle. I'd never been to WDW before, so that was an unexpected surprise!
http://bit.ly/bqvpdw
Had a chance to watch the Brers in a hoedown at Walt Disney World last week, so the cartoon characters themselves certainly haven't been vaulted. At least in the theme parks, they still have quite a presence. Brer Rabbit even appears on a tiny statue in front of Cinderella's castle. I'd never been to WDW before, so that was an unexpected surprise!