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Torsten:
> "In the late 1970s and early 1980s the Walt Disney Studios
> produced approximately 20 feature-length stories featuring Mickey and
> Goofy. Many were written by Greg Crosby, now Vice President of
> International Marketing at Disney, and all were drawn by Jaime Diaz at his
> finest.
> "These 40-page plus stories were created by Disney to distribute
> to licensees worldwide for publication but, to our knowledge, few were
> ever used, possibly due to their length.

Per:
> Actually at least 14 of these have been published in Sweden:

I looked it up, a lot of the stories have been reprinted in Holland, too.
I don't have them, so I can't give page count or codes.
According to the Dutch "Comic book price guide", the stories marked with
'H' are also published in Holland:

Title Pg Code Holland
---------------------------------------------------------------
Goofy da Vinci 44 H
Goofy Columbus 44 H
Goofy Galileo 44 S 76159 H
Mickey Marco Polo 44 S 76179
*Goofy Beethoven H
Goofy Gutenberg 44
Goofy Arthur 44 H
*Goofy Ulysses H
Goofy King Tut 44 S 78096 H
King Goofy Midas 44
Goofy Eiffel 44
Around the World in 80 Days 44
*Goofy Wilhelm Tell 44 S 80135

And there are a few other stories:

*Goofy Frankenstein H
*Goofy Hercules H
*20000 miles under the sea H

(and the "price guide" lists 2 more stories with names unknown, probably
some of the un-H-ed stories above)

Per:
> There are some funny gags and situations in those stories, even though
> they are not very Disneyesque. Other opinions?

For what I have seen from them, the art is quite good (just like in the
series "A Goofy look at..." by Bob Foster and Jaime Diaz. You *have* seen
these in the USA). But it was not good enough for be to buy the albums...

--Harry.

"WHAT!?!... IS HE MAD?!?" This is a list/digest for Disney-fans!

First someone named "SHANU " <BS111 at ist2.co.umist.ac.uk> on
the 14 May 93 (15:49:41 GMT0BST) asks a question about `ARCHIE
ANDREWS & JUGHEAD' Comics and now this loser is asking about Max &
Dave Fleischer's `Ko-Ko the Clown'. Will this lunacy NEVER
END?!?!? I don't mean to aggravate anyone, I still pretty new to
this electronic-mail bunk... so if this is considered "bad-list-
form" I am sorry. Next time I will see if Per can add it to the
end of one of the digest he sends to Don (short of the same way Per
dose, when he want's to ask/tell Don something one-to-one).

Sorry again,

Gil <The Jerk>

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Dear Don,

I thought I would save you a little $$$ by sending this post
to the digest (and to insure some additional savings to you, just
give me the information at the end of your comments in the next
digest [if you like])... I'll try to not make this habit, still I
could help but wonder, if maybe some of our fellow e-mailers might
also have some leads of their own. Here's the question a friend of
my (old enough to be my Dad) found out I knew a thing or two about
animated cartoons... I guess he thought he could baffle me by
asking if I knew anything about: Ko-Ko the Clown. He was shocked
to find out, however, that I knew as much as I did. The only thing
I did not know was how he could locate old films and/or videos Ko-
Ko appeared in. I promised him that I would find out, all that I
could and if I turned anything up, I would relay it to him. So,
give me a few good leads that I can pass on to him, if you would
(Please, Sir) and we will BOTH be in your debt.

I didn't get to hear all of the radio-telecast last night,
nevertheless, the material that I did hear, I enjoyed very much!!
El-Metz-o, Ray and you conducted an excellent program as always...

Thanks again,

Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>

On Thursday, 1 July 1993, Gilbert Milburn wrote:
> Hello again,
> Last month a book was released by Marc Eliot entitled -- WALT
> DISNEY: HOLLYWOOD'S DARK PRINCE (Birch Lane Press, $21.95), that
> paints a very negative and down-right bizarre portrait of Mr.
> Disney. This vicious biography claims Walt was a FBI stooge, a
> Nazi sympathizer, a cross dressing pill-popper and I don't know
> what all!! I don't really know because I have only read a few
> reviews and not the book itself (and I don't plan to!)... I know
> Don thinks that The WALT DISNEY COMPANY is cold and heartless, but
> I don't believe the founder was. Still, I guess some people will
> write any kind of accusations, about anyone just to make a lousy
> buck... oh, well such is life!..

Sorry to disappoint you, Gilbert, but Walt Disney was an FBI informant,
supplying information to Washington about possible Communists. Working
conditions were terrible enough at Walt Disney Studios that many animators
and employees went on strike.

I would like to recommend that you check out this book from a library,
read it, then draw your own conclusions. Most of the reviews I have seen
have been favorable, so the research must be fairly solid. Much of the
FBI information was from Freedom of Information Act requests, which are
edited photocopies of government files.

Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA

First a couple of stray comments:

I listed the Goofy stories in that particular style I knew of, and
Harry mentioned some more:

> *Goofy Frankenstein H
Oops, I forgot that one. It should have been between King Tut and
Midas in my list.

> *Goofy Hercules H
> *20000 miles under the sea H
20,000 miles sounds too short. More like 20,000 leagues I'd say. :-)

Don> TO GILBERT: (is everyone seeing this reply to non-Disney stuff?)

Sure we do. I don't think the mail program you use manage to look at
the contents of the message and redirect the mail because of it if you
don't do it yourself. :-)

Just when typing this a letter from Duckburg Times editor Dana Gabbard
arrived. He has just finished the Don Rosa interview for Comics
Journal (he didn't say what issue it'll be in). This is the same
interview that has been published in Danish in Carl Barks & Co. and in
shortened form in Swedish in Bild & Bubbla. Funny how you yanks seem
to get everything last. :-)

Well, what I really wanted to say, as evidenced from the subject line,
is that the ftp archive ftp.lysator.liu.se:/pub/comics/disney is
available again. My account there is still invalid though, so I can't
update anything or put any new stuff there yet. (Harry and David have
sent me some stuff that will be there as soon as I get the
opportunity.)
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
(Currently planning a Junior Woodchuck jamboree.)

I just got my latest Westfield newsletter and have some questions about some
of the Disney related items included.

First off, there is a book called "Cartoonist Profiles #99" featuring our
very own Don Rosa. Don, do you (or anyone else) have more information on
what this exactly is? Westfield neglected to include any information on
this book, other than it is $8.00.

Next up is the book "Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge McDuck: His Life and Times".
This is a $34.95 book, but again no other information is available. The
title sounds familiar, so this may be a reissue. Anyone have a clue?

Finally,
"Donald Duck Adventures" #23 features a Donald Duck vs. Vikings tale by
Marco Rota. Can anyone recommend or not recommend this tale?

Thanks much.

Andy

I feel as a *TRUE* (Rosa) enthusiast, I should take this time
to apologize (and to somewhat defend myself for) what I said to Mr.
Rosa (in front of God and everyone else!)...

> Date: 05 Jul 93 08:43:02 EDT
> From: Don Rosa <72260.2635 at CompuServe.COM>
> Subject: Re: Digest #51

> As for the METZ show, since we weren't listed in the paper at
> all, it was THE worst show we've done in 10 years as to number of
> callers. Normally we overload the circuits, but that night we sat
> for 5 or 10 minutes at a stretch without any callers. YOU called
> I believe? And while I thank you for your sympathy concerning
> that Atlanta deal, I was stunned that you (if it WAS you) brought
> it up on semi-national radio! Didn't you see me saying on here
> how I thought it was a deeply embarrassing public humiliation?
> Fortuanately we didn't go into it such that anyone would
> understand what you meant, but I had to answer to Foushee and
> Metz during the next commercial.

Yes, it was me who called-in that night -- I could deny it
was, but... I won't. What I wanted to say something more along the
lines of: "Sorry, your vacation to Georgia, STUNK!" However, I
was more than a little nervous and had a CRITICAL upset in my
train-of-thought. Reaching for words I ended up saying something
more like this: "I'm sorry to hear that everything... ah, went bad
for you in.. ah, Atlanta... with.. er -- ah, you know.. (Barks) n'
stuff,..."

After METZ hung-up I felt extremely dense, embarrassed and I
was sitting there kicking myself for being so @~#*&%^}! foolish!!
It was VERY ignorant and I'm really feel badly about the whole
*stupid* thing.

Whereas I can not go before God and everyone else again (nor
would YOU want me to!!.. ) to try to make restitution and ask to be
pardon for my stupidity!!! I can/will before our fellow
list/digest members...

> From: Per Starback <starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE>

> Don> TO GILBERT: (is everyone seeing this reply to non-Disney
> stuff?)

> Sure we do. [...]

When Per had told us way back when...

> Thu Apr 15 11:26 EDT 1993
> From: Per Starb{ck <starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE>
> Subject: Welcome Don!

> Newsflash!

> Don Rosa is now a member of this mailing list!
> (so watch your tongues :-)

..I broke my end of that deal!.. all I ask is that you don't hate
me and we can continue our relationship as Cartoonist and his
slightly moronic (yet, likeable) #1 fan!!

**I AM MOST GENUINELY SORRY!!!!!**

Gil (The Imbecile) <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>



Solan> How am I to see which writer has made which story?

Just look at the credits on in some index! :-)

It's hard to know who wrote a particular story compared to knowing who
drew it, as it's much easier to recognize a art style than a writing
style. Of course neither art nor the writing was credited in The Old
Days, so few styles were known by name at all, but at least you could
see that a bunch of stories evidently had art by the same person.

But some names of artists and writers at Western was known, and you
could try pin-point who was who of them. If you just got to know that
one particular story was drawn by one particular artist, a bunch of
other comics followed from that, but if you got to know that one
particular story was *written* by one particular writer that was just
an isolated fact and such knowledge have been scarce.

But lately credits in the American Disney books have started to have
writer credits for old stories quite often. I think they have found
some book-keeping from Western that shows exactly who got paid for
what story. Anyone knows anything about that?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"

>>> Next up is the book "Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge McDuck: His Life and Times".

Thanks to Per, we now know it includes:

Back to the Klondike (USOS 456) reprinted in Gladstone Comic Album #4
Trouble From Long Ago (USOS 495) <not recently reprinted>
Tralla La (US 6) reprinted in Uncle Scrooge Digest #3
The Seven Cities of Cibola (US 7) reprinted in Uncle Scrooge #217
The Lemming with the Locket (US 9) <reprinted in recent Disney comic???>
Land Beneath the Ground! (US 13) reprinted in Gladstone Comic Album #6
The Second-Richest Duck (US 15) reprinted in Gladstone Giant Album #4
Land of the Pygmy Indians (US 18) reprinted in Uncle Scrooge Adv. #10
Island in the Sky (US 29) reprinted in Uncle Scrooge #268
The Many Faces of Magica De Spell (US 48) reprinted in Gladstone Giant Album #6
Micro-Ducks From Outer Space (US 65) reprinted in Uncle Scrooge Adv. #15

I'm trying to justify buying this book, but I don't think I can. At most,
there are 2 stories not easily available (and I am pretty sure the Lemming
story was reprinted recently as I know I have read it). "Trouble From Long
Ago" may also be reprinted, but I don't recognize the story from the title.
I would like to see a better version of "Tralla La" than the digest one (yuk).

>>There's also (published for the first time and not published
>>anywhere else(?)) the "illustrated story version" of Go Slowly Sands
>>of Time. This is a story that Barks wrote in the late sixties and
>>that didn't become a comic until much later when Egmont had Vicar do
>>art for it (the result is published in US 216). But this is not that,
>>but some illustrations for the story made by Barks in 1980.

But is this worth $35?? I think I will have to pass.

Now how about that Rosa profile.......???? Any unpublished works or sketch
pages planned for this Don?