Don Rosa has sent two pieces of mail to me that evidently were meant
for the list. Here they are:
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Date: 20 Jul 93 00:42:55 EDT
From: Don Rosa <72260.2635 at CompuServe.COM>
Subject: +Postage Due+Digest #58
Yes, thanks to several people, I now have Harry's Clerk List on
hard copy. And I'm starting to remember not to hit the ENTER key when I
useta be s'posed to but now ain't.
To Harry: Where was Miss Quackfaster named and why is she so
popular if Barks only used her twice. As you noted, she was only used in
the American UNCLE $CROOGE #36 & 39 (IF that's her in #36), and she was
only named in #39. As to why she is popular -- it's only because
somebody at Egmont or Oberon decided to start using her as $crooge's
one-and-only secretary many years back, so she became a fixture in the
European stories, and therefore NOW in American reprints. If it hadn't
been for Europe, she would be as obscure/unknown as all those other
Barks office clerks. It seems pretty obvious to me that Barks never
intended for there to be anything permanent in or about the bin building
except $crooge himself. The look and location of the bin and all its
contents and employees changed from story to story. I try to keep most
of it all very consistant since, unlike Barks, I know there are people
reading these stories carefully with an eye to detail and saving them to
reread again and check on accuracy.
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Date: 20 Jul 93 08:38:08 EDT
From: Don Rosa <72260.2635 at CompuServe.COM>
Subject: +Postage Due++Postage Due+Digest #58
Well, here's a lil' notice for the next digest that I've been
forgetting to mention. My usual thinking is that I shouldn't pop off
about stuff like this, but since someone was expressing interest in that
PRO-FILES interview that I had also NOT mentioned, I think I should
mention this. Don't mention it.
A Norwegian reporter and photographer from the biggest paper in
Scandanavia (said they, based on percentage of the local population that
reads it), "VG" (whatever that's short for), flew here for less than 2
hours a last month and interviewed me. The 4 tabloid page article
appeared July 3; the first 2 pages were about me, with one nice photo
and one fairly insulting "goofy" photo (which such people always insist
on), and the second 2 pages were the issue's centerspread which featured
the world's first appearance of my "official" (?) Donald Duck Family
Tree in excellent large size and full color suitable (I'd say) for
framing! I know I'd frame it if I could READ it. I haven't the slightest
idea how the article came out or how the reporter used my comments... I
tried to read it but all it said was "blah blah blah blah Don Rosa blah
blah blah". I wish someone could send me a translation of things like
this, but I understand what a tedious process such things are.
Last week a reporter/photographer from yet another "biggest
newspaper in Scandanavia" (based on total circulation?), EXPRESSEN, came
here for their two hours before flying right back like the other team. I
gave them pretty much the same interview subject to their particular
method of interpretation and posed for several more photographs, half of
which were fairly humiliating. (Anytime a photographer insists I pose
wearing a Donald Duck head hat, I insist that he takes the picture and
delivers it to his paper while not wearing any pants. A turnabout is
fair play, says I.) Anyway, this article of "blah blah blah etc." won't
appear for a little while (I suspect?) so as not to look like the VG
article gave the reporter the idea for it. I didn't mention it, but as
you Swedish folks know, EXPRESSEN is a Swedish paper. What you can tell
me is what sort of paper are these VG and EXPRESSEN? Nice newspapers? Or
fairly tacky stuff like USA TODAY? (I suspect the latter.)
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Author
Topic: 199307
(48 messages)
Per Starback
Rosa mail
Message 31 -
1993-07-20 at 16:58:08
Harry Fluks
Star- is back (Duck and cover!)
Message 32 -
1993-07-20 at 17:33:58
"
Per Starback:
> I've heard that they [Gladstone] will start yet another CBL in
> Color series this autumn with "everything else". Anyone else knows
> more about that?
1. In their ads, Gladstone now states that eventually ALL Barks material
will be published in the same form as 'The Library of WDC'.
2. David Gerstein once said that Gladstone will be publishing the rare
March Of Comics giveaways near the end of the year (and I hope they
found some original prints of 'Darkest Africa'!)
3. The man in a comic book shop in Amsterdam had heard somewhere that
Gladstone didn't get the rights for ALL Barks stories, only WDC (and
a few other things). Maybe this was true, meaning that Disney Comics
kept the rights for reprinting the other stuff (like Uncle Scrooge).
Now that Gladstone is back in the comics business again, maybe they
got the rights to all the Barks material.
> It's interesting to hear different opinions on the new Gladstones,
> even though I haven't gotten any of them yet so I don't have anything
> to say myself. (I want it cheap, not fast.) But why are they
> serializing a Gottfredson story that they already have printed (in an
> album)?
My guess is that Disney Comics already planned the publishing (they did
more re-re-reprints). That would also explain why one of the first Gladstone
issues reprinted a Barks story that Gladstone reprinted before.
Anyway, I think the Gottfredson story has been re-coloured.
> Old messages
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Talking about 'old messages'.. 8-)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Per Starback:
> I've heard that they [Gladstone] will start yet another CBL in
> Color series this autumn with "everything else". Anyone else knows
> more about that?
1. In their ads, Gladstone now states that eventually ALL Barks material
will be published in the same form as 'The Library of WDC'.
2. David Gerstein once said that Gladstone will be publishing the rare
March Of Comics giveaways near the end of the year (and I hope they
found some original prints of 'Darkest Africa'!)
3. The man in a comic book shop in Amsterdam had heard somewhere that
Gladstone didn't get the rights for ALL Barks stories, only WDC (and
a few other things). Maybe this was true, meaning that Disney Comics
kept the rights for reprinting the other stuff (like Uncle Scrooge).
Now that Gladstone is back in the comics business again, maybe they
got the rights to all the Barks material.
> It's interesting to hear different opinions on the new Gladstones,
> even though I haven't gotten any of them yet so I don't have anything
> to say myself. (I want it cheap, not fast.) But why are they
> serializing a Gottfredson story that they already have printed (in an
> album)?
My guess is that Disney Comics already planned the publishing (they did
more re-re-reprints). That would also explain why one of the first Gladstone
issues reprinted a Barks story that Gladstone reprinted before.
Anyway, I think the Gottfredson story has been re-coloured.
> Old messages
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Talking about 'old messages'.. 8-)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Kjetil Torgrim Homme
Rosa mail
Message 33 -
1993-07-20 at 18:04:50
I'll have to check out the VG article, and may post a translation, or
at least send one to Don, if no one beats me to it :-)
"VG" stands for "Verdens Gang" (meaning something like "the changes of
the World"). It's a true tabloid with large fonts, large pictures,
little content and taste for sex/violence scandals/tragedies. I don't
buy it on principle, but this may call for an exception from that.
Actually, the "largest newspaper" thing is disputable. "Aftenposten"
("the Evening Post") is larger if you count their evening edition, and
is IMO a much better newspaper. You may remember they had a 4-6 page
feature (with no goofy shots ;-) on Disney in their weekend supplement
A-magasinet a year ago or so, with a specially drawn front page of
young Scrooge with his first dime (? 10 |re in Norwegian ;-)
Oh, VG has a Donald strip, Aftenposten has Scamp. Don't know if that's
saying anything about the editorial policy, though :-)
Kjetil T.
at least send one to Don, if no one beats me to it :-)
"VG" stands for "Verdens Gang" (meaning something like "the changes of
the World"). It's a true tabloid with large fonts, large pictures,
little content and taste for sex/violence scandals/tragedies. I don't
buy it on principle, but this may call for an exception from that.
Actually, the "largest newspaper" thing is disputable. "Aftenposten"
("the Evening Post") is larger if you count their evening edition, and
is IMO a much better newspaper. You may remember they had a 4-6 page
feature (with no goofy shots ;-) on Disney in their weekend supplement
A-magasinet a year ago or so, with a specially drawn front page of
young Scrooge with his first dime (? 10 |re in Norwegian ;-)
Oh, VG has a Donald strip, Aftenposten has Scamp. Don't know if that's
saying anything about the editorial policy, though :-)
Kjetil T.
Harry Fluks
Reply to Norway
Message 34 -
1993-07-20 at 20:22:45
From Kjetil Torgrim Homme:
> I'll have to check out the VG article, and may post a translation, or
> at least send one to Don, if no one beats me to it :-)
I think you won't have to do much to be the quickest: your mail even arrived
here before Per's/Don's original mail did! Norway must be closer to Holland
than Sweden...
> "VG" stands for "Verdens Gang" (...)
> Actually, the "largest newspaper" thing is disputable. "Aftenposten"
> ("the Evening Post") is larger if you count their evening edition, and
> is IMO a much better newspaper. You may remember they had a 4-6 page
> feature (with no goofy shots ;-) on Disney in their weekend supplement
> A-magasinet a year ago or so, with a specially drawn front page of
> young Scrooge with his first dime (? 10 |re in Norwegian ;-)
You mean they had a ROSA cover? This is interesting news, especially for
our 'don-rosa' index! Maybe you have some more Norwegian information about
Rosa publications, like
- Where was the 'long story about books' published?
- What is the Norwegian equivalent of 'Glada Julparaden'/'Mandelgaven'?
('Christmas Parade')
> Kjetil T.
Welcome, Kjetil, to the club of non-silent members of the list! 8-)
--Harry.
> I'll have to check out the VG article, and may post a translation, or
> at least send one to Don, if no one beats me to it :-)
I think you won't have to do much to be the quickest: your mail even arrived
here before Per's/Don's original mail did! Norway must be closer to Holland
than Sweden...
> "VG" stands for "Verdens Gang" (...)
> Actually, the "largest newspaper" thing is disputable. "Aftenposten"
> ("the Evening Post") is larger if you count their evening edition, and
> is IMO a much better newspaper. You may remember they had a 4-6 page
> feature (with no goofy shots ;-) on Disney in their weekend supplement
> A-magasinet a year ago or so, with a specially drawn front page of
> young Scrooge with his first dime (? 10 |re in Norwegian ;-)
You mean they had a ROSA cover? This is interesting news, especially for
our 'don-rosa' index! Maybe you have some more Norwegian information about
Rosa publications, like
- Where was the 'long story about books' published?
- What is the Norwegian equivalent of 'Glada Julparaden'/'Mandelgaven'?
('Christmas Parade')
> Kjetil T.
Welcome, Kjetil, to the club of non-silent members of the list! 8-)
--Harry.
Torsten Wesley Adair
Disney Phonecards?
Message 35 -
1993-07-21 at 05:21:07
For those of you unfamiliar with the concept, a phonecard is a debit card.
That is, you buy a card for a specific amount, and that amount is what is
on the card. As you use the card, the cost of the phone call is
subtracted from your card. These cards are very common in Germany, and
many cards come with designs printed on them. As with anything printed
with a popular design (ask me about pogs), these cards have become
collectibles.
What I would like to know from the European members of this list is:
Are there any phonecards with Disney characters, and if so, how much are
they selling for?
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
That is, you buy a card for a specific amount, and that amount is what is
on the card. As you use the card, the cost of the phone call is
subtracted from your card. These cards are very common in Germany, and
many cards come with designs printed on them. As with anything printed
with a popular design (ask me about pogs), these cards have become
collectibles.
What I would like to know from the European members of this list is:
Are there any phonecards with Disney characters, and if so, how much are
they selling for?
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Gilbert Milburn
Odds and Ends
Message 36 -
1993-07-21 at 20:03:30
Dear Per and Everyone else,
I 'm really falling (FAR) behind in my postings to this
list/digest! One of these days I might get caught up (but not to
day!) and then again... maybe I won't. First off I want to tell
Per "thanks" for all those missing digests you sent me. Next to:
Mark (MacBear) McConnell <mamcconnell at happy.uccs.edu> I appreciate
your message you sent me and I'll try to write you back
(personally... soon I hope). I guess the primary reason I am
sssoooooooo tardyin my posts -- is I have merely an hour (or so) to
work in the lab. Albeit that maybe sufficient time for some, it's
isn't enough for me! So just bear with me and please be patient
with me (okay?).
Later,
Gil
I 'm really falling (FAR) behind in my postings to this
list/digest! One of these days I might get caught up (but not to
day!) and then again... maybe I won't. First off I want to tell
Per "thanks" for all those missing digests you sent me. Next to:
Mark (MacBear) McConnell <mamcconnell at happy.uccs.edu> I appreciate
your message you sent me and I'll try to write you back
(personally... soon I hope). I guess the primary reason I am
sssoooooooo tardyin my posts -- is I have merely an hour (or so) to
work in the lab. Albeit that maybe sufficient time for some, it's
isn't enough for me! So just bear with me and please be patient
with me (okay?).
Later,
Gil
Gilbert Milburn
A belated thanks to Don!
Message 37 -
1993-07-21 at 20:07:20
Hi again,
> Date: 09 Jul 93 09:16:11 EDT
> From: Don Rosa <72260.2635 at CompuServe.COM>
> Subject: Re: Digest #54
> Gil: fergit it. Wasn't THAT big a deal. I just got kinda
> stunned at the moment.
(* "Sshhheeww!.. " BIG sigh of relief! *)
THANKS DON!!!
Gil
> Date: 09 Jul 93 09:16:11 EDT
> From: Don Rosa <72260.2635 at CompuServe.COM>
> Subject: Re: Digest #54
> Gil: fergit it. Wasn't THAT big a deal. I just got kinda
> stunned at the moment.
(* "Sshhheeww!.. " BIG sigh of relief! *)
THANKS DON!!!
Gil
Gilbert Milburn
More on Unca Walt
Message 38 -
1993-07-21 at 20:13:25
Hello,
Here's another post I've been meaning to reply to...
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 17:50:46 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Torsten Wesley Adair <torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu>
> Subject: Re: Unca Walt... We hardly knew you!..
> Sorry to disappoint you, Gilbert, but Walt Disney was an FBI
> informant, supplying information to Washington about possible
> Communists. Working conditions were terrible enough at Walt
> Disney Studios that many animators and employees went on
> strike.
I have heard something about Walt's involvement in the FBI
trials. Today it seems unethical and vicious to toss people to
the Commie-hunters, but at the time it seemed like patriotism to
many more Americans than just Walt Disney.
Yes, I knew about the Disney Studios' strike of 1941 and I'm
sure that the War Effort contributed to the unpleasant working
conditions! The Disney workers who did stick it out, were busy
working on various animated-shorts. For civilians they had films
geared towards entertainment, propaganda and patriotism. While
the other films where provided as both a diversion as well as
training proposes to the Armed Forces. Yet, this book labels
Disney as a "Nazi sympathizer" -- somehow I don't buy it!!
According to one review I read Eliot even finds in Disney a
"dark aspect to his relationship with Mickey...a narcissistic
jealousy between Walt and his vastly more popular animated
reflection." When it comes to psychology, Eliot is a student of
the Dark Side.
> I would like to recommend that you check out this book from a
> library, read it, then draw your own conclusions. Most of the
> reviews I have seen have been favorable, so the research must
> be fairly solid. Much of the FBI information was from Freedom
> of Information Act requests, which are edited photocopies of
> government files.
I might look at it in a library (if I run across it!)...
nevertheless, I definitely won't be checking it out. Now,
Torsten let me also offer you a small suggestion on something you
should read. In Charles Solomon's respected 1989 reference work,
The History of Animation, notes that Disney was "a human
Rorschach test: everyone...saw something different in him."
That's all for now
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
Here's another post I've been meaning to reply to...
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 17:50:46 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Torsten Wesley Adair <torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu>
> Subject: Re: Unca Walt... We hardly knew you!..
> Sorry to disappoint you, Gilbert, but Walt Disney was an FBI
> informant, supplying information to Washington about possible
> Communists. Working conditions were terrible enough at Walt
> Disney Studios that many animators and employees went on
> strike.
I have heard something about Walt's involvement in the FBI
trials. Today it seems unethical and vicious to toss people to
the Commie-hunters, but at the time it seemed like patriotism to
many more Americans than just Walt Disney.
Yes, I knew about the Disney Studios' strike of 1941 and I'm
sure that the War Effort contributed to the unpleasant working
conditions! The Disney workers who did stick it out, were busy
working on various animated-shorts. For civilians they had films
geared towards entertainment, propaganda and patriotism. While
the other films where provided as both a diversion as well as
training proposes to the Armed Forces. Yet, this book labels
Disney as a "Nazi sympathizer" -- somehow I don't buy it!!
According to one review I read Eliot even finds in Disney a
"dark aspect to his relationship with Mickey...a narcissistic
jealousy between Walt and his vastly more popular animated
reflection." When it comes to psychology, Eliot is a student of
the Dark Side.
> I would like to recommend that you check out this book from a
> library, read it, then draw your own conclusions. Most of the
> reviews I have seen have been favorable, so the research must
> be fairly solid. Much of the FBI information was from Freedom
> of Information Act requests, which are edited photocopies of
> government files.
I might look at it in a library (if I run across it!)...
nevertheless, I definitely won't be checking it out. Now,
Torsten let me also offer you a small suggestion on something you
should read. In Charles Solomon's respected 1989 reference work,
The History of Animation, notes that Disney was "a human
Rorschach test: everyone...saw something different in him."
That's all for now
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
Gilbert Milburn
My last question for today
Message 39 -
1993-07-21 at 20:22:26
Can anyone see this? Did my other stuff make it? The titles
where: Odds and Ends, A belated thanks to Don and More on Unca Walt.
Just checking,
Gil
P.S. Okay, I know that was more that just ONE question...
where: Odds and Ends, A belated thanks to Don and More on Unca Walt.
Just checking,
Gil
P.S. Okay, I know that was more that just ONE question...
Don Rosa
+Postage Due+Digest #60
Message 40 -
1993-07-22 at 05:53:21
COMMENTS ON DIGEST #60:
With no regard to who asked each of these questions or brought
up the matters...
Why is Gladstone reprinting stuff that they already reprinted in
their first go around? "The Prize of Pizarro" was reprinted the first
time, so they tell me, in an issue that suffered from low distribution
and low print run -- as a result it was not available very widely either
as a new issue or back issue. That's what they told me when I asked why
they wanted a cover for a story they'd already reprinted. And I'm sure
the same applies to that MM story that was in an album... they see the
albums and digests reaching far fewer readers than the comics, so
they'll eventually reprint everything in most all forms. Can't you see
what Hamilton is doing with ALL the Barks stories? First in the
expensive Library, then in albums/digests, then in comics, then in color
Library Albums... he's not stupid! There is a finite amount of material
and he must milk it for all it's worth!
My story about books, "The Guardians of the Lost Library", will
be printed sometime around September 20. At least that's when I'm
supposed to make another promotional tour through Scandanavia
publicizing same. (That'll be my 5th tour? I'm losing count!)
Yes, I have already been featured in AFTENPOSTEN several times,
the last time in that very special issue of their Sunday magazine in a
large story, not "about Disney" as someone said, but all about me and my
"life of $crooge" series. The cover was a special one I did on the theme
of "what if $crooge had grown up in Norway" and it showed a scene from
the series of 10-year-old $crooge earning his first dime and dreaming of
his Norwegian-style money bin. I have a copy of this magazine... someday
I hope someone will READ it to me so I know what's being said about me!
And you make VG sound pretty sleazy! It's not that bad, is it?!
What about EXPRESSEN???
With no regard to who asked each of these questions or brought
up the matters...
Why is Gladstone reprinting stuff that they already reprinted in
their first go around? "The Prize of Pizarro" was reprinted the first
time, so they tell me, in an issue that suffered from low distribution
and low print run -- as a result it was not available very widely either
as a new issue or back issue. That's what they told me when I asked why
they wanted a cover for a story they'd already reprinted. And I'm sure
the same applies to that MM story that was in an album... they see the
albums and digests reaching far fewer readers than the comics, so
they'll eventually reprint everything in most all forms. Can't you see
what Hamilton is doing with ALL the Barks stories? First in the
expensive Library, then in albums/digests, then in comics, then in color
Library Albums... he's not stupid! There is a finite amount of material
and he must milk it for all it's worth!
My story about books, "The Guardians of the Lost Library", will
be printed sometime around September 20. At least that's when I'm
supposed to make another promotional tour through Scandanavia
publicizing same. (That'll be my 5th tour? I'm losing count!)
Yes, I have already been featured in AFTENPOSTEN several times,
the last time in that very special issue of their Sunday magazine in a
large story, not "about Disney" as someone said, but all about me and my
"life of $crooge" series. The cover was a special one I did on the theme
of "what if $crooge had grown up in Norway" and it showed a scene from
the series of 10-year-old $crooge earning his first dime and dreaming of
his Norwegian-style money bin. I have a copy of this magazine... someday
I hope someone will READ it to me so I know what's being said about me!
And you make VG sound pretty sleazy! It's not that bad, is it?!
What about EXPRESSEN???
Per Starback
That and this
Message 41 -
1993-07-22 at 14:01:12
Kjetil T.:
> You may remember they [Norwegian Aftenposten /Per] had a 4-6 page
> feature (with no goofy shots ;-) on Disney in their weekend supplement
> A-magasinet a year ago or so, with a specially drawn front page of
> young Scrooge with his first dime (? 10 |re in Norwegian ;-)
Yes, it's a dime in English. In Swedish it is a krona btw, i.e., about
ten times more than it is in Norway!
Don himself wrote more about Aftenposten:
> [...] all about me and my "life of $crooge" series. The cover was a
> special one I did on the theme of "what if $crooge had grown up in
> Norway" and it showed a scene from the series of 10-year-old $crooge
> earning his first dime and dreaming of his Norwegian-style money bin.
I wonder how a Norwegian-style money bin looks. Like a big cheese? :-)
What date was this, by the way? Maybe I can find it somehow.
> And you [Kjetil] make VG sound pretty sleazy! It's not that bad, is it?!
> What about EXPRESSEN???
Well, I wouldn't buy it (except for special occasions, like the coming
thing on you or other Disney stuff), but it's probably not as sleazy
as you fear.
Don:
> Can't you see what Hamilton is doing with ALL the Barks stories? First
> in the expensive Library, then in albums/digests, then in comics, then
> in color Library Albums... he's not stupid! There is a finite amount
> of material and he must milk it for all it's worth!
I still wonder if it's the correct order to publish stuff in albums
before the comic books. It's nicer to have the stories in albums, so
I'd be hesitant to buy a comic book with stuff I mostly have, but I
could probably persuade myself to buy an album with stuff I just have
in comic books before.
Don again:
> My story about books, "The Guardians of the Lost Library", will
> be printed sometime around September 20. At least that's when I'm
> supposed to make another promotional tour through Scandanavia
> publicizing same.
Do you know any details of that tour yet? There's a big book and
library fair in Sweden September 9--12, so I wonder why your
publishers didn't use that.
Then off to Unca Walt:
Gilbert, I don't see what your point is. First you are angry because
Marc Eliot's book mentions that Walt was an FBI informant etc., and
when Torsten then pointed out that it is true, after all, you reply
that
> Today it seems unethical and vicious to toss people to
> the Commie-hunters, but at the time it seemed like patriotism to
> many more Americans than just Walt Disney.
Of course that's true, but does that mean that such things ought not
to be mentioned? I liked that Rorschach quote on Walt by the way, but
still I think it is possible to get some kind of coherent picture of
him from reading what his employees have written.
That's all I have to say on the book as I haven't read it (yet), and
it's off topic anyway. Walt doesn't have very much to do with Disney
comics.
And another off-topic: No, Torsten, there are no Disney phonecards
here anyway.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
(Yes Harry, that same old quote! Earlier I sometimes tried to insert
an appropriate quote that had something to do with my message, but
nowadays my messages are so random so that quote fits very well. :-)
> You may remember they [Norwegian Aftenposten /Per] had a 4-6 page
> feature (with no goofy shots ;-) on Disney in their weekend supplement
> A-magasinet a year ago or so, with a specially drawn front page of
> young Scrooge with his first dime (? 10 |re in Norwegian ;-)
Yes, it's a dime in English. In Swedish it is a krona btw, i.e., about
ten times more than it is in Norway!
Don himself wrote more about Aftenposten:
> [...] all about me and my "life of $crooge" series. The cover was a
> special one I did on the theme of "what if $crooge had grown up in
> Norway" and it showed a scene from the series of 10-year-old $crooge
> earning his first dime and dreaming of his Norwegian-style money bin.
I wonder how a Norwegian-style money bin looks. Like a big cheese? :-)
What date was this, by the way? Maybe I can find it somehow.
> And you [Kjetil] make VG sound pretty sleazy! It's not that bad, is it?!
> What about EXPRESSEN???
Well, I wouldn't buy it (except for special occasions, like the coming
thing on you or other Disney stuff), but it's probably not as sleazy
as you fear.
Don:
> Can't you see what Hamilton is doing with ALL the Barks stories? First
> in the expensive Library, then in albums/digests, then in comics, then
> in color Library Albums... he's not stupid! There is a finite amount
> of material and he must milk it for all it's worth!
I still wonder if it's the correct order to publish stuff in albums
before the comic books. It's nicer to have the stories in albums, so
I'd be hesitant to buy a comic book with stuff I mostly have, but I
could probably persuade myself to buy an album with stuff I just have
in comic books before.
Don again:
> My story about books, "The Guardians of the Lost Library", will
> be printed sometime around September 20. At least that's when I'm
> supposed to make another promotional tour through Scandanavia
> publicizing same.
Do you know any details of that tour yet? There's a big book and
library fair in Sweden September 9--12, so I wonder why your
publishers didn't use that.
Then off to Unca Walt:
Gilbert, I don't see what your point is. First you are angry because
Marc Eliot's book mentions that Walt was an FBI informant etc., and
when Torsten then pointed out that it is true, after all, you reply
that
> Today it seems unethical and vicious to toss people to
> the Commie-hunters, but at the time it seemed like patriotism to
> many more Americans than just Walt Disney.
Of course that's true, but does that mean that such things ought not
to be mentioned? I liked that Rorschach quote on Walt by the way, but
still I think it is possible to get some kind of coherent picture of
him from reading what his employees have written.
That's all I have to say on the book as I haven't read it (yet), and
it's off topic anyway. Walt doesn't have very much to do with Disney
comics.
And another off-topic: No, Torsten, there are no Disney phonecards
here anyway.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
(Yes Harry, that same old quote! Earlier I sometimes tried to insert
an appropriate quote that had something to do with my message, but
nowadays my messages are so random so that quote fits very well. :-)
Gilbert Milburn
That and this (and then some!)
Message 42 -
1993-07-30 at 01:52:29
Greetings and salutations,
I would like to REVISE the perspective a little (If I can) on
all this CHATTER I started with one of my posts...
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 13:01:12 +0200
> From: Per Starback <starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE>
> Subject: That and this
> Then off to Unca Walt:
> Gilbert, I don't see what your point is. First you are angry
> because Marc Eliot's book mentions that Walt was an FBI informant
> etc., and when Torsten then pointed out that it is true, after
> all, you reply that
>> Today it seems unethical and vicious to toss people to
>> the Commie-hunters, but at the time it seemed like patriotism to
>> many more Americans than just Walt Disney.
> Of course that's true, but does that mean that such things ought
> not to be mentioned? I liked that Rorschach quote on Walt by the
> way, but still I think it is possible to get some kind of
> coherent picture of him from reading what his employees have
> written.
(I am pleased that you like the Rorschach quote... I glad SOMEBODY
did!)
Per, don't get me wrong... I was NOT angry that Mr. Eliot's
book refer to Walt as an FBI informant or that such aspects ought
not to be mentioned. On the contrary I feel that such things
(sometimes!) contributes to the information that we call "History".
However, to slander someone, just because they are famous and
because you can make really BIG $$$$ doing so -- is about as
unprincipled as you can get.
Marc Eliot makes Walt Disney appear to be EVIL INCARNATE and
someone who does not deserve any admiration or even the right to
have ever lived. For many years now, we have all heard/read what
the media convey/write horrible things about well-known individuals
who are now deceased (and I for one am SICK of it!). These people
can not defend themselves and should be left to their rest(s).
There are various people who believe EVERYTHING they read and/or
are told (I think this is why tabloids[sp?] or so popular) and they
will take all this rubbish to heart. Furthermore, I don't believe
Marc Eliot has all his so called "facts" strait!
BTW: When I had said...
> I have heard something about Walt's involvement in the FBI
> trials. [...]
I was ONLY referring to mere hearsay and not as any FACT!
No, I was not angered (that much) by the FBI thing, it was ALL
other garbage that when all with it!!
Here's another that needs revision:
> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 13:03:30 EDT
> From: Gilbert Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
> Subject: Odds and Ends
> Dear Per and Everyone else,
> [...]. I guess the primary reason I am
> sssoooooooo tardy in my posts -- is I have merely an hour (or so)
> to work in the lab. Albeit that maybe sufficient time for some,
> it's isn't enough for me! So just bear with me and please be
> patient with me (okay?).
I also failed to mention that I am only HERE once a week
(usually Wednesday or Thursday!).
Well I guess that's about it for now,
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
"Yikes and awayyyy..." WHUMP!
P.S. Thanks to everyone who relayed to me that they received my
messages!!
I would like to REVISE the perspective a little (If I can) on
all this CHATTER I started with one of my posts...
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 13:01:12 +0200
> From: Per Starback <starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE>
> Subject: That and this
> Then off to Unca Walt:
> Gilbert, I don't see what your point is. First you are angry
> because Marc Eliot's book mentions that Walt was an FBI informant
> etc., and when Torsten then pointed out that it is true, after
> all, you reply that
>> Today it seems unethical and vicious to toss people to
>> the Commie-hunters, but at the time it seemed like patriotism to
>> many more Americans than just Walt Disney.
> Of course that's true, but does that mean that such things ought
> not to be mentioned? I liked that Rorschach quote on Walt by the
> way, but still I think it is possible to get some kind of
> coherent picture of him from reading what his employees have
> written.
(I am pleased that you like the Rorschach quote... I glad SOMEBODY
did!)
Per, don't get me wrong... I was NOT angry that Mr. Eliot's
book refer to Walt as an FBI informant or that such aspects ought
not to be mentioned. On the contrary I feel that such things
(sometimes!) contributes to the information that we call "History".
However, to slander someone, just because they are famous and
because you can make really BIG $$$$ doing so -- is about as
unprincipled as you can get.
Marc Eliot makes Walt Disney appear to be EVIL INCARNATE and
someone who does not deserve any admiration or even the right to
have ever lived. For many years now, we have all heard/read what
the media convey/write horrible things about well-known individuals
who are now deceased (and I for one am SICK of it!). These people
can not defend themselves and should be left to their rest(s).
There are various people who believe EVERYTHING they read and/or
are told (I think this is why tabloids[sp?] or so popular) and they
will take all this rubbish to heart. Furthermore, I don't believe
Marc Eliot has all his so called "facts" strait!
BTW: When I had said...
> I have heard something about Walt's involvement in the FBI
> trials. [...]
I was ONLY referring to mere hearsay and not as any FACT!
No, I was not angered (that much) by the FBI thing, it was ALL
other garbage that when all with it!!
Here's another that needs revision:
> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 13:03:30 EDT
> From: Gilbert Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
> Subject: Odds and Ends
> Dear Per and Everyone else,
> [...]. I guess the primary reason I am
> sssoooooooo tardy in my posts -- is I have merely an hour (or so)
> to work in the lab. Albeit that maybe sufficient time for some,
> it's isn't enough for me! So just bear with me and please be
> patient with me (okay?).
I also failed to mention that I am only HERE once a week
(usually Wednesday or Thursday!).
Well I guess that's about it for now,
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
"Yikes and awayyyy..." WHUMP!
P.S. Thanks to everyone who relayed to me that they received my
messages!!
Larry Gerstein
Goofy celebrities and Clerkly
Message 43 -
1993-07-30 at 03:04:13
Hi, Folks!
First time I've actually gotten out to my Dad's office (which is
now NOT walking distance from home, and I don't drive... yet), and there
were tons of digests waiting, of course. Hoo! Hah!
I'm still in the middle of them, but, before I go on:
In case Don Rosa doesn't get an answer (and there's probably one in
the next digest I haven't looked at...) Scrooge's dogface accountant
Clerkly (he of the hornrimmed glasses and the continuous nervousness)
appeared not only in "Lost Beneath the Sea" but "So Far and No Safari" as
well, and perhaps some others. He's in both of the two new Scrooge stories
I've done for Egmont (and may be in some future ones, too).
By the way... I'm proud to say that my first script is now in the
process of being drawn by Daniel Branca!!!!!!!!!!
Now the other important topic: One other of the Goofy "historical
bio" stories has seen print here: Goofy Frankenstein, which was in
Disney's GOOFY ADVENTURES #1 and 2, in two parts. They cut about half of
it out, I think, and somehow it still seemed to make perfect sense. You go
figure.
Well, I'll head for the hills for the time being!
Your friend,
David Gerstein
(By the way... the 1946 two-week Mickey Mouse story "Goofy the Kid"
is in GA #9 as "The Goofy Crooner". A Gottfredson strip story, I mean. I
forgot to supply that info for the reference morgue.)
First time I've actually gotten out to my Dad's office (which is
now NOT walking distance from home, and I don't drive... yet), and there
were tons of digests waiting, of course. Hoo! Hah!
I'm still in the middle of them, but, before I go on:
In case Don Rosa doesn't get an answer (and there's probably one in
the next digest I haven't looked at...) Scrooge's dogface accountant
Clerkly (he of the hornrimmed glasses and the continuous nervousness)
appeared not only in "Lost Beneath the Sea" but "So Far and No Safari" as
well, and perhaps some others. He's in both of the two new Scrooge stories
I've done for Egmont (and may be in some future ones, too).
By the way... I'm proud to say that my first script is now in the
process of being drawn by Daniel Branca!!!!!!!!!!
Now the other important topic: One other of the Goofy "historical
bio" stories has seen print here: Goofy Frankenstein, which was in
Disney's GOOFY ADVENTURES #1 and 2, in two parts. They cut about half of
it out, I think, and somehow it still seemed to make perfect sense. You go
figure.
Well, I'll head for the hills for the time being!
Your friend,
David Gerstein
(By the way... the 1946 two-week Mickey Mouse story "Goofy the Kid"
is in GA #9 as "The Goofy Crooner". A Gottfredson strip story, I mean. I
forgot to supply that info for the reference morgue.)
Larry Gerstein
Digest #56
Message 44 -
1993-07-30 at 03:10:37
Dear All,
Here's another response, this time to a more recent digest.
First of all, Murry's "A Lad 'n' His Lamp" printed recently was not
Scrooge and Goofy. It was Mickey and Goofy.
Sounds like the 32-page Murry story must be "Culprits Inc." which
was done for the Western PHANTOM BLOT book. I have seen only one issue of
that, which is Mickey and Donald together against the Blot for the "Crown
of Tasbah." For a non-Barks story, this one is actually pretty good. So
we'll see what the other one's like. (Apparently the P. BLOT run has a
Wild West story in it that's terrible and campy, so you just can't
predict.)
According to a digest I read, Don Rosa doesn't find Clerkly or Ms.
Quackfaster appearing more than once. As I mentioned in my other letter,
Clerkly does appear several times, and Ms. Quackfaster has certainly become
a staple in the foreign stories, so I'd say she's worth using. (And you've
had her before, right, in your stories, Mr. Rosa?)
Your friend,
David Gerstein
Here's another response, this time to a more recent digest.
First of all, Murry's "A Lad 'n' His Lamp" printed recently was not
Scrooge and Goofy. It was Mickey and Goofy.
Sounds like the 32-page Murry story must be "Culprits Inc." which
was done for the Western PHANTOM BLOT book. I have seen only one issue of
that, which is Mickey and Donald together against the Blot for the "Crown
of Tasbah." For a non-Barks story, this one is actually pretty good. So
we'll see what the other one's like. (Apparently the P. BLOT run has a
Wild West story in it that's terrible and campy, so you just can't
predict.)
According to a digest I read, Don Rosa doesn't find Clerkly or Ms.
Quackfaster appearing more than once. As I mentioned in my other letter,
Clerkly does appear several times, and Ms. Quackfaster has certainly become
a staple in the foreign stories, so I'd say she's worth using. (And you've
had her before, right, in your stories, Mr. Rosa?)
Your friend,
David Gerstein
Larry Gerstein
No subject
Message 45 -
1993-07-30 at 03:36:14
Dear Folks,
Okay, I'm finished reading the recent digests.
I hope Mr. Rosa finds the info on Clerkly useful. Yes, he did
appear several times. He's the dogfaced, worried-looking clerk with
glasses. Etc, etc, etc.
In a crowd scene in my first Egmont story I show Scrooge's office
staff including "Mrs. Quackfaster, Clerkly the accountant and various
unnamed ducks and dogs." I hope no one jumps on me for this.
I visited John Clark at Gladstone for several hours during my
cross-country car trip. Here's a bit of what he told me:
As of right now ALL the Gottfredson stories (except for some Sunday
pages here and there) printed in the next few months will be those that
already were in albums, aside from the single exception of Hoppy the
Kangaroo which was a tremendous seller for them and had such large
circulation that they don't feel it needs to be printed again.
I informed Mr. Clark about the Milton "Big Sneeze" and he's going
to get it and print it, as far as I know.
As far as I'm able to figure out, the CBL of WDC&S in Color WILL be
joined by series for Scrooge and Donald books as well. It seems Gladstone
IS able to branch out into those series.
The cover of the next WDC&S (2 months from now) with "Spotless Don"
illustrates that story and is by Van Horn.
It's Bruce Hamilton's idea to print a lot of Jaime Diaz in D&M
because he likes it. John Clark does like the long M&G "historical"
stories but is dubious as to how well they'll be received or sell. He
wants MANY letters with HONEST opinions, so PLEASE write! More now than
ever, fans have a chance to influence the direction of Disney comics.
I'd in fact be glad to see ONLY Gottfredson and Scarpa used in BOTH
titles that include Mickey, but I realize that my boredom with Murry, etc.
is far from normal for Mouse fans.
So Diaz is the main exposed Mickey artist besides Gottfredson, and
if you ask me Gottfredson should really be in D&M. In the WDC&S that came
out today, the second (and last) part of Wolf Barker appears... taking up
over half the book! In fact, this is an issue of WDC&S that's ONLY Donald
and Mickey (with an additional one-page gag for each besides the longer
stories). Stories by people other than Gottfredson are usually shorter and
can be serialized in SMALLER parts. Don't you think that the place for
them is WDC&S so other characters such as wolves and bugs can have some
room?
Gladstone bought four of my dialogs on foreign stories. These were
stories I picked MYSELF to do, so I think that they're a cut above some of
the plots we've seen from Europe. I'm sure any of you European fans could
find LOTS of good Egmont and Oberon stories, just like I tried to.
Anyway, we'll see the fruits of my labor soon. I'm proud to tell
you that WDC&S 590 (in January) will have my first published dialogue...
done in July 1992, which shows how long my stuff's been sitting around.
Disney bought three of them planning not to use them until about DiDDA 40,
which as you know never came out, so Gladstone now has those three, along
with their four, and I just mailed off two more (one of which they GAVE ME
to do from the Dutch) today, so you'll get a chance to see what my writing
is like.
As for when the new stories I'm WRITING for Egmont will appear
there or here, not for a year. Trust that you'll find them respectful to
the classics.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
Okay, I'm finished reading the recent digests.
I hope Mr. Rosa finds the info on Clerkly useful. Yes, he did
appear several times. He's the dogfaced, worried-looking clerk with
glasses. Etc, etc, etc.
In a crowd scene in my first Egmont story I show Scrooge's office
staff including "Mrs. Quackfaster, Clerkly the accountant and various
unnamed ducks and dogs." I hope no one jumps on me for this.
I visited John Clark at Gladstone for several hours during my
cross-country car trip. Here's a bit of what he told me:
As of right now ALL the Gottfredson stories (except for some Sunday
pages here and there) printed in the next few months will be those that
already were in albums, aside from the single exception of Hoppy the
Kangaroo which was a tremendous seller for them and had such large
circulation that they don't feel it needs to be printed again.
I informed Mr. Clark about the Milton "Big Sneeze" and he's going
to get it and print it, as far as I know.
As far as I'm able to figure out, the CBL of WDC&S in Color WILL be
joined by series for Scrooge and Donald books as well. It seems Gladstone
IS able to branch out into those series.
The cover of the next WDC&S (2 months from now) with "Spotless Don"
illustrates that story and is by Van Horn.
It's Bruce Hamilton's idea to print a lot of Jaime Diaz in D&M
because he likes it. John Clark does like the long M&G "historical"
stories but is dubious as to how well they'll be received or sell. He
wants MANY letters with HONEST opinions, so PLEASE write! More now than
ever, fans have a chance to influence the direction of Disney comics.
I'd in fact be glad to see ONLY Gottfredson and Scarpa used in BOTH
titles that include Mickey, but I realize that my boredom with Murry, etc.
is far from normal for Mouse fans.
So Diaz is the main exposed Mickey artist besides Gottfredson, and
if you ask me Gottfredson should really be in D&M. In the WDC&S that came
out today, the second (and last) part of Wolf Barker appears... taking up
over half the book! In fact, this is an issue of WDC&S that's ONLY Donald
and Mickey (with an additional one-page gag for each besides the longer
stories). Stories by people other than Gottfredson are usually shorter and
can be serialized in SMALLER parts. Don't you think that the place for
them is WDC&S so other characters such as wolves and bugs can have some
room?
Gladstone bought four of my dialogs on foreign stories. These were
stories I picked MYSELF to do, so I think that they're a cut above some of
the plots we've seen from Europe. I'm sure any of you European fans could
find LOTS of good Egmont and Oberon stories, just like I tried to.
Anyway, we'll see the fruits of my labor soon. I'm proud to tell
you that WDC&S 590 (in January) will have my first published dialogue...
done in July 1992, which shows how long my stuff's been sitting around.
Disney bought three of them planning not to use them until about DiDDA 40,
which as you know never came out, so Gladstone now has those three, along
with their four, and I just mailed off two more (one of which they GAVE ME
to do from the Dutch) today, so you'll get a chance to see what my writing
is like.
As for when the new stories I'm WRITING for Egmont will appear
there or here, not for a year. Trust that you'll find them respectful to
the classics.
Your friend,
David Gerstein