Andy:
> "Trouble From Long Ago" may also be reprinted, but I don't recognize
> the story from the title.
aka The Month of the Golden Goose
aka The Horse-Radish Story
The ducks have to deliver some horseradish to Jamaica.
>> [desc. of Go Slowly,...]
> But is this worth $35?? I think I will have to pass.
Yeah, it isn't as interesting now as it was then. The book also has some
before that unpublished pages for some comics etc., but most of those
have been published now anyway. I wouldn't buy it, as I prefer to
have Carl Barks Library stuff published in order so it's really easy
to look up a particular story when I know its code.
--
Per
Author
Topic: 199307
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Per Starback
Information requested on new Disney items
Message 16 -
1993-07-09 at 01:40:13
Don Rosa
Digest #54
Message 17 -
1993-07-09 at 16:16:11
COMMENTS ON DIGEST:
That is an interview with me by R.C.Harvey from about 1 1/2 years ago. One version is in that CARTOONIST PROFILES (a magazine more
for fans of newspaper strips... they want to start doing some comic book people and since doing the stuff I do puts me light years
closer to mainstream America than any other American who does comic books, I was one of the first they interviewed). A different
version (longer? shorter?) has been submitted to CBG for their consideration.
I figured someone would post the easy answer to what that $CROOGE MCDUCK: HIS LIFE AND TIMES book is. Yes, it's a paperback reprint
of the reissue of the 1981 super-expensive hardback. It's from "Celestial Arts" and is the only nice Duck book I can think of that
did not come from Another Rainbow. I think it came out just before Hamilton got his licenses. But somebody said it was in B&W???
NO! The whole point of the book was to have some artsy-fartsy artist color the old Dell photostats and make them look "special".
Many of us think it was an interesting idea, but the stories looked weird and murky; I much prefer the color as it was meant to be,
as it was done by Dell. And there was a new Barks story in the shape of illustrations-with-text like an old Big Little Book.
The Donald vs. Vikings story that Gladstone is reprinting is actually a dream sequence of DD imagining the adventures of some other
duck... NOT himself. I have now had the "honor" of drawing the only DD and the only U$ covers ("Back to Long Ago") that do NOT show
DD or U$, but look-alikes. Anyway, the Viking story has great artwork and one GREAT slapstick gag near the beginning that seems to
have come from some other writer and story... but the rest of the story is meandering and pointless. In fact, they plan to slice
a number of pages out of it to try to improve it. I don't really bother to read many of those old Egmont reprints but are thay all
like this one? Beautiful art and a story not worth bothering about?
Gil: fergit it. Wasn't THAT big a deal. I just got kinda stunned at the moment.
QUESTION for all Barksbuffs!!!!! For my "Life and Times of $crooge McDuck" part XI, I am doing a story involving, in small part,
$crooge hiring the office staff for his base office. I have Miss Quackfaster there (even though Barks may have only used her once
or twice? How many times did he show Mrs. M.?)... but Byron Erickson says I need to also include some dog-guy named "Clerkly". Sure,
I'm sure I recall ONE time there was a dogman in $crooge's office he called Clerkly... but did Barks ever use a character named (in
the story) Clerkly more than one time? Or even use a character as an office worker that was clearly the same person (though unnamed)
in more than one story???
That is an interview with me by R.C.Harvey from about 1 1/2 years ago. One version is in that CARTOONIST PROFILES (a magazine more
for fans of newspaper strips... they want to start doing some comic book people and since doing the stuff I do puts me light years
closer to mainstream America than any other American who does comic books, I was one of the first they interviewed). A different
version (longer? shorter?) has been submitted to CBG for their consideration.
I figured someone would post the easy answer to what that $CROOGE MCDUCK: HIS LIFE AND TIMES book is. Yes, it's a paperback reprint
of the reissue of the 1981 super-expensive hardback. It's from "Celestial Arts" and is the only nice Duck book I can think of that
did not come from Another Rainbow. I think it came out just before Hamilton got his licenses. But somebody said it was in B&W???
NO! The whole point of the book was to have some artsy-fartsy artist color the old Dell photostats and make them look "special".
Many of us think it was an interesting idea, but the stories looked weird and murky; I much prefer the color as it was meant to be,
as it was done by Dell. And there was a new Barks story in the shape of illustrations-with-text like an old Big Little Book.
The Donald vs. Vikings story that Gladstone is reprinting is actually a dream sequence of DD imagining the adventures of some other
duck... NOT himself. I have now had the "honor" of drawing the only DD and the only U$ covers ("Back to Long Ago") that do NOT show
DD or U$, but look-alikes. Anyway, the Viking story has great artwork and one GREAT slapstick gag near the beginning that seems to
have come from some other writer and story... but the rest of the story is meandering and pointless. In fact, they plan to slice
a number of pages out of it to try to improve it. I don't really bother to read many of those old Egmont reprints but are thay all
like this one? Beautiful art and a story not worth bothering about?
Gil: fergit it. Wasn't THAT big a deal. I just got kinda stunned at the moment.
QUESTION for all Barksbuffs!!!!! For my "Life and Times of $crooge McDuck" part XI, I am doing a story involving, in small part,
$crooge hiring the office staff for his base office. I have Miss Quackfaster there (even though Barks may have only used her once
or twice? How many times did he show Mrs. M.?)... but Byron Erickson says I need to also include some dog-guy named "Clerkly". Sure,
I'm sure I recall ONE time there was a dogman in $crooge's office he called Clerkly... but did Barks ever use a character named (in
the story) Clerkly more than one time? Or even use a character as an office worker that was clearly the same person (though unnamed)
in more than one story???
Per Starback
Scrooge's staff
Message 18 -
1993-07-09 at 21:15:20
Don:
> QUESTION for all Barksbuffs!!!!! For my "Life and Times of $crooge
> McDuck" part XI, I am doing a story involving, in small part, $crooge
> hiring the office staff for his base office. [ ... ]
> but Byron Erickson says I need to also include some dog-guy named
> "Clerkly". Sure, I'm sure I recall ONE time there was a dogman in
> $crooge's office he called Clerkly... but did Barks ever use a
> character named (in the story) Clerkly more than one time?
I don't know. There is a Clerkly in US 46 (Lost Beneath the Sea). Is
that the same story you're thinking of?
> Or even use a character as an office worker that was clearly the
> same person (though unnamed) in more than one story???
Not that I know of, but the clerks in The Golden River (US 22) speak
about what Scrooge does every spring, so I guess they have worked
there for awhile at least. One clerk in that story is named by the way
--- Mr. Clerkmore.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
> QUESTION for all Barksbuffs!!!!! For my "Life and Times of $crooge
> McDuck" part XI, I am doing a story involving, in small part, $crooge
> hiring the office staff for his base office. [ ... ]
> but Byron Erickson says I need to also include some dog-guy named
> "Clerkly". Sure, I'm sure I recall ONE time there was a dogman in
> $crooge's office he called Clerkly... but did Barks ever use a
> character named (in the story) Clerkly more than one time?
I don't know. There is a Clerkly in US 46 (Lost Beneath the Sea). Is
that the same story you're thinking of?
> Or even use a character as an office worker that was clearly the
> same person (though unnamed) in more than one story???
Not that I know of, but the clerks in The Golden River (US 22) speak
about what Scrooge does every spring, so I guess they have worked
there for awhile at least. One clerk in that story is named by the way
--- Mr. Clerkmore.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Torsten Wesley Adair
New Gladstone
Message 19 -
1993-07-11 at 20:51:17
Source: Previews v. 3 no. 7 July 1993 p. 104-106
Carl Barks Library Album #21
Walt Disney's Comics & Stories in Color
"Gladstone's Terrible Secret" WDC&S #140
The Think Box Bollix WDC&S #141
Houseboat Holiday WDC&S #142
Gemstone Hunters WDC&S #143
Spending Money WDC&S #144
Carl Barks Library of Gyro Gearloose Stories #5 (of 6)
(reprints Gyro Gearloose Four Color #1184 in it entirety)
"Monsterville"
"The Cube"
"Mighty But Miserable"
"Brain-Strain"
"That Small Feeling" US #32
"You Can't Win" US #33
"Wily Rival" US #34
COMICS
Donald Duck Adventures #23
by Marco Rota
This issue: A Donald Duck fantasy epic, in which one of Donald's
ancestors battles Viking invaders. Cover by Don Rosa.
Uncle Scrooge #283
Reprints Barks' "Foxy Relations" from WDC&S #98. (This was Uncle
Scrooge's first appearance in WDC&S.) Also in this issue: Top-quality
Danish stories featuring Gyro, the Beagle Boys, and (of course) Uncle Scrooge.
[Cover shown. US in foreground walking and grinning. Two toy soldiers
are marching around a piggy bank, as a Beagle Boy looks in from a window.]
Walt Disney's Comics & Stories #588
This issue: "Spotless Don", a new 10-page story by William Van Horn that
spoofs Barks' "mastery [sic] stories"; and the first chapter of "The
World of Tomorrow" (1944) by Floyd Gottfredson.
[Cover by Van Horn?]
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Carl Barks Library Album #21
Walt Disney's Comics & Stories in Color
"Gladstone's Terrible Secret" WDC&S #140
The Think Box Bollix WDC&S #141
Houseboat Holiday WDC&S #142
Gemstone Hunters WDC&S #143
Spending Money WDC&S #144
Carl Barks Library of Gyro Gearloose Stories #5 (of 6)
(reprints Gyro Gearloose Four Color #1184 in it entirety)
"Monsterville"
"The Cube"
"Mighty But Miserable"
"Brain-Strain"
"That Small Feeling" US #32
"You Can't Win" US #33
"Wily Rival" US #34
COMICS
Donald Duck Adventures #23
by Marco Rota
This issue: A Donald Duck fantasy epic, in which one of Donald's
ancestors battles Viking invaders. Cover by Don Rosa.
Uncle Scrooge #283
Reprints Barks' "Foxy Relations" from WDC&S #98. (This was Uncle
Scrooge's first appearance in WDC&S.) Also in this issue: Top-quality
Danish stories featuring Gyro, the Beagle Boys, and (of course) Uncle Scrooge.
[Cover shown. US in foreground walking and grinning. Two toy soldiers
are marching around a piggy bank, as a Beagle Boy looks in from a window.]
Walt Disney's Comics & Stories #588
This issue: "Spotless Don", a new 10-page story by William Van Horn that
spoofs Barks' "mastery [sic] stories"; and the first chapter of "The
World of Tomorrow" (1944) by Floyd Gottfredson.
[Cover by Van Horn?]
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Torsten Wesley Adair
Gladstone Ad (July 23, 1993)
Message 20 -
1993-07-11 at 21:09:04
Source: The Comics Buyer's Guide, #127 July 23, 1993 p. 140
The Beagle Boys have joined forces with the Phantom Blot! Donald and
Mickey can't find Uncle Scrooge!
[8 cm X 23 cm illustration of Donald and Mickey turning in surprise
towards a wall safe surrounded by barbed wire. Uncle Scrooge is shown in
the open wall safe saying "No, I'm here! What do you want?"]
Ahem! Anyway, Uncle Scrooge Adventures #23 (shipping August 24th) is a
special 64-page issue featuring, among other things, a unique "crossover"
adventure drawn by Paul Murry! The Beagles and the Blot are after
Scrooge's fantasticatillions, but then they get wind of something even
better--a small bag of seeds Scrooge would do anything to protect! It
will take the combined efforts of Scrooge, Donald, Mickey, and Gyro, along
with a trip back in time and an encounter with the infamous Black night,
to foil the villains and keep Scrooge's fortune intact!
Full-scale "crossover" stories like this have always been rare in Disney
comics, especially ones featuring such a stellar cast! Not only that, but
this tale, originally published nearly twenty-eight years ago, contains
among the very few face-to-face encounters in comics between Mickey Mouse
and Uncle Scrooge McDuck! It's a special treat no Disney fan will want to
miss!
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
The Beagle Boys have joined forces with the Phantom Blot! Donald and
Mickey can't find Uncle Scrooge!
[8 cm X 23 cm illustration of Donald and Mickey turning in surprise
towards a wall safe surrounded by barbed wire. Uncle Scrooge is shown in
the open wall safe saying "No, I'm here! What do you want?"]
Ahem! Anyway, Uncle Scrooge Adventures #23 (shipping August 24th) is a
special 64-page issue featuring, among other things, a unique "crossover"
adventure drawn by Paul Murry! The Beagles and the Blot are after
Scrooge's fantasticatillions, but then they get wind of something even
better--a small bag of seeds Scrooge would do anything to protect! It
will take the combined efforts of Scrooge, Donald, Mickey, and Gyro, along
with a trip back in time and an encounter with the infamous Black night,
to foil the villains and keep Scrooge's fortune intact!
Full-scale "crossover" stories like this have always been rare in Disney
comics, especially ones featuring such a stellar cast! Not only that, but
this tale, originally published nearly twenty-eight years ago, contains
among the very few face-to-face encounters in comics between Mickey Mouse
and Uncle Scrooge McDuck! It's a special treat no Disney fan will want to
miss!
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Don Rosa
Digest #55
Message 21 -
1993-07-12 at 16:03:49
COMMENTS:
So, it sounds like there WEREN'T any office workers who appeared in more than one old $crooge story??? That would make my life simpler --
if there WERE, I'll hafta spend several panels showing $crooge originally hiring him or something like that. I'd still like someone
to tell me/ help me find where Barks used Miss Quackfaster, and if he used her more than once. I do show when $crooge first sees her --
naturally he doesn't hire anybody as he expects his two sisters to run things while he's globetrotting during 1903-1930... but they
hire an office staff while he's away.
Is there any old "sketchbook" stuff in my CARTOONIST PROFILES interview? Not any "sketchbook" stuff per se -- I've never done any
drawing in my WHOLE life that wasn't part of a lil' handmade comic book (when I was a tad) or intended for definite publication after
I was about high school age. I know that most/all REAL artists keep sketchbooks or practice their abilities by sketching, but I never
have. That's probably because I never intended to do it except as a hobby, and I was never interested JUST in drawing; my interest
has ALWAYS been strictly in telling stories... therefore there was no reason or desire for me to ever draw anything that wasn't part
of a story.
There IS lots of stuff I've done through the years that has been published in fanzines and school papers... but none of that is seen
in any interview I've ever done (nor would I be very anxious that it were!). Besides, none of my old comics were "funny animal" as
I never was a fan of that sorta stuff. I prefered adventure or horror or SF comics. Anyway, what I think IS in that PROFILES article
is an example of how I construct a Duck story, showing my notebook pages, then thumbnail lay-outs, then storyboard/script pages, then
penciled pages, then inked/finished pages. If anyone would care.
So, it sounds like there WEREN'T any office workers who appeared in more than one old $crooge story??? That would make my life simpler --
if there WERE, I'll hafta spend several panels showing $crooge originally hiring him or something like that. I'd still like someone
to tell me/ help me find where Barks used Miss Quackfaster, and if he used her more than once. I do show when $crooge first sees her --
naturally he doesn't hire anybody as he expects his two sisters to run things while he's globetrotting during 1903-1930... but they
hire an office staff while he's away.
Is there any old "sketchbook" stuff in my CARTOONIST PROFILES interview? Not any "sketchbook" stuff per se -- I've never done any
drawing in my WHOLE life that wasn't part of a lil' handmade comic book (when I was a tad) or intended for definite publication after
I was about high school age. I know that most/all REAL artists keep sketchbooks or practice their abilities by sketching, but I never
have. That's probably because I never intended to do it except as a hobby, and I was never interested JUST in drawing; my interest
has ALWAYS been strictly in telling stories... therefore there was no reason or desire for me to ever draw anything that wasn't part
of a story.
There IS lots of stuff I've done through the years that has been published in fanzines and school papers... but none of that is seen
in any interview I've ever done (nor would I be very anxious that it were!). Besides, none of my old comics were "funny animal" as
I never was a fan of that sorta stuff. I prefered adventure or horror or SF comics. Anyway, what I think IS in that PROFILES article
is an example of how I construct a Duck story, showing my notebook pages, then thumbnail lay-outs, then storyboard/script pages, then
penciled pages, then inked/finished pages. If anyone would care.
Harry Fluks
Various replies
Message 22 -
1993-07-12 at 16:23:04
I've been away for a week, so here are my
COMMENTS ON DIGEST #WHATSIT 8-)
Rota's Viking stories
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Andy Krieg:
> "Donald Duck Adventures" #23 features a Donald Duck vs. Vikings tale by
> Marco Rota. Can anyone recommend or not recommend this tale?
Don Rosa:
> The Donald vs. Vikings story that Gladstone is reprinting is actually a
> dream sequence of DD imagining the adventures of some other duck... NOT
> himself.
I Holland, two Viking stories have been reprinted: they are both dream
sequences, both by Rota and both concerning "MacDonald and Little Crack".
Don:
> Anyway, the Viking story has great artwork and one GREAT slapstick gag near
> the beginning that seems to have come from some other writer and story...
> but the rest of the story is meandering and pointless. In fact, they plan
> to slice a number of pages out of it to try to improve it. I don't really
> bother to read many of those old Egmont reprints but are thay all like this
> one? Beautiful art and a story not worth bothering about?
Are you sure it was an Egmont story? The stories in Holland are coded
I 228-A (45 pg) and I 277-A (36 pg), the I standing for Italy.
As goes for most Italian stories, the story is very long and could easily be
shortened to improve it. But this is not representative for Egmont stories...
Writer's credits
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Per:
> But lately credits in the American Disney books have started to have
> writer credits for old stories quite often. I think they have found
> some book-keeping from Western that shows exactly who got paid for
> what story. Anyone knows anything about that?
The only thing I know is that the Gladstone people used the newspaper strips
index by Becattini for their credits. I guess fans like Becattini put a lot
of effort in getting all the credits (from wherever), and today's publishers
are just using their data.
Go slowly, sands of time
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Per:
> There's also (published for the first time and not published
> anywhere else(?)) the "illustrated story version" of Go Slowly Sands
> of Time.
A b/w copy is also published in the Carl Barks Library.
> This is a story that Barks wrote in the late sixties and
> that didn't become a comic until much later when Egmont had Vicar do
> art for it (the result is published in US 216).
Didn't Barks submit the story in 1973 or 1974?
> But this is not that,
> but some illustrations for the story made by Barks in 1980.
In fact, there are 12 illustrations, oil painted.
Uncle Scrooge, His Life and Times
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Per:
> Yeah, it isn't as interesting now as it was then. The book also has some
> before that unpublished pages for some comics etc., but most of those
> have been published now anyway.
The 'unpublished' pages include 4 1/2 page of 'Back to the Klondike', plus
1/2 page of NEW Barks pencils for the final missing half page of the story.
Furthermore, all existing 'unpublished' pages of 'Land beneath the ground'
are included.
All of this has been reprinted in the Carl Barks Library. And also in
the Gladstone Albums, except 2 panels of 'Land beneath the ground'.
Don Rosa:
> The whole point of the book was to have some artsy-fartsy artist color the
> old Dell photostats and make them look "special". Many of us think it was
> an interesting idea, but the stories looked weird and murky; I much prefer
> the color as it was meant to be, as it was done by Dell.
I fully agree!
Scrooge and Mickey by Murry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Torsten:
> The Beagle Boys have joined forces with the Phantom Blot! Donald and
> Mickey can't find Uncle Scrooge! (...) Full-scale "crossover" stories like
> this have always been rare in Disney comics, especially ones featuring
> such a stellar cast! Not only that, but this tale, originally published
> nearly twenty-eight years ago, contains among the very few face-to-face
> encounters in comics between Mickey Mouse and Uncle Scrooge McDuck! It's
> a special treat no Disney fan will want to miss!
I have seen a Murry story with Mickey and Scrooge in it, reprinted in
Holland. I don't like the story, and I don't like Murry's Ducks.
I wouldn't buy the comic myself.
BTW: Murry drew a few other Mickey stories featuring Grandma Duck, Gyro
Gearloose, and Donald Duck. And what about "A lad 'n' his lamp", recently
reprinted? It features Scrooge and Goofy.
That all for now...
--Harry.
COMMENTS ON DIGEST #WHATSIT 8-)
Rota's Viking stories
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Andy Krieg:
> "Donald Duck Adventures" #23 features a Donald Duck vs. Vikings tale by
> Marco Rota. Can anyone recommend or not recommend this tale?
Don Rosa:
> The Donald vs. Vikings story that Gladstone is reprinting is actually a
> dream sequence of DD imagining the adventures of some other duck... NOT
> himself.
I Holland, two Viking stories have been reprinted: they are both dream
sequences, both by Rota and both concerning "MacDonald and Little Crack".
Don:
> Anyway, the Viking story has great artwork and one GREAT slapstick gag near
> the beginning that seems to have come from some other writer and story...
> but the rest of the story is meandering and pointless. In fact, they plan
> to slice a number of pages out of it to try to improve it. I don't really
> bother to read many of those old Egmont reprints but are thay all like this
> one? Beautiful art and a story not worth bothering about?
Are you sure it was an Egmont story? The stories in Holland are coded
I 228-A (45 pg) and I 277-A (36 pg), the I standing for Italy.
As goes for most Italian stories, the story is very long and could easily be
shortened to improve it. But this is not representative for Egmont stories...
Writer's credits
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Per:
> But lately credits in the American Disney books have started to have
> writer credits for old stories quite often. I think they have found
> some book-keeping from Western that shows exactly who got paid for
> what story. Anyone knows anything about that?
The only thing I know is that the Gladstone people used the newspaper strips
index by Becattini for their credits. I guess fans like Becattini put a lot
of effort in getting all the credits (from wherever), and today's publishers
are just using their data.
Go slowly, sands of time
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Per:
> There's also (published for the first time and not published
> anywhere else(?)) the "illustrated story version" of Go Slowly Sands
> of Time.
A b/w copy is also published in the Carl Barks Library.
> This is a story that Barks wrote in the late sixties and
> that didn't become a comic until much later when Egmont had Vicar do
> art for it (the result is published in US 216).
Didn't Barks submit the story in 1973 or 1974?
> But this is not that,
> but some illustrations for the story made by Barks in 1980.
In fact, there are 12 illustrations, oil painted.
Uncle Scrooge, His Life and Times
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Per:
> Yeah, it isn't as interesting now as it was then. The book also has some
> before that unpublished pages for some comics etc., but most of those
> have been published now anyway.
The 'unpublished' pages include 4 1/2 page of 'Back to the Klondike', plus
1/2 page of NEW Barks pencils for the final missing half page of the story.
Furthermore, all existing 'unpublished' pages of 'Land beneath the ground'
are included.
All of this has been reprinted in the Carl Barks Library. And also in
the Gladstone Albums, except 2 panels of 'Land beneath the ground'.
Don Rosa:
> The whole point of the book was to have some artsy-fartsy artist color the
> old Dell photostats and make them look "special". Many of us think it was
> an interesting idea, but the stories looked weird and murky; I much prefer
> the color as it was meant to be, as it was done by Dell.
I fully agree!
Scrooge and Mickey by Murry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Torsten:
> The Beagle Boys have joined forces with the Phantom Blot! Donald and
> Mickey can't find Uncle Scrooge! (...) Full-scale "crossover" stories like
> this have always been rare in Disney comics, especially ones featuring
> such a stellar cast! Not only that, but this tale, originally published
> nearly twenty-eight years ago, contains among the very few face-to-face
> encounters in comics between Mickey Mouse and Uncle Scrooge McDuck! It's
> a special treat no Disney fan will want to miss!
I have seen a Murry story with Mickey and Scrooge in it, reprinted in
Holland. I don't like the story, and I don't like Murry's Ducks.
I wouldn't buy the comic myself.
BTW: Murry drew a few other Mickey stories featuring Grandma Duck, Gyro
Gearloose, and Donald Duck. And what about "A lad 'n' his lamp", recently
reprinted? It features Scrooge and Goofy.
That all for now...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
Scrooge's employees
Message 23 -
1993-07-13 at 12:35:28
(WARNING: BORING LIST IN THIS MAIL)
Don Rosa:
> So, it sounds like there WEREN'T any office workers who appeared in
> more than one old $crooge story???
I have gone through my Dutch Barks collection and looked for employees of
Scrooge. Below, you find a list of what I found. I can't give all the
English names, since I looked at the Dutch versions. But mostly, when the
Dutch story gives a name to the employee, the original has a name, too.
Maybe Don or someone else can look at that.
(BTW: where is miss Quackfaster called Miss Quackfaster?)
I tried to describe the employees, but most of them actually are
neutral dog-faces. However, the clerk in the last US stories seems to be the
same.
I started with the Christmas Parade story. Some earlier stories may have a
butler ('Bear Mountain'?) but I think that's less relevant.
Here is the list:
Issue Page Clerk(s)
CP 21 ('you can't guess') butler called [Dutch Lodewijk]
WDC 144 1+10 clerk
WDC 159 2 clerk
US 5 7 clerk
WDC 164 3 quite fat one with glasses
US 6 1 4 employees
US 7 1 butler with sideburns
4 bookkeeper
US 7 (wages gag) 2 employees
US 11 (party gag) butler with sideburns
US 15 4 bookkeeper
US 16b 3 clerk (quiz show story)
US 18 (poverty gag) U$ _talks_ by intercom to miss [Dutch Eugenia]
US 19 1 8 employees carry tickets (#1 is fat, glasses)
last employees #1 and #2 of page 1
US 22 1 5 employees
2 2 other employees
5 one of the employees seems to have changed clothes.
He's called mr. Clerkmore.
US 23 2+3 chief-clerk
2 2 boyes from the office (and a nurse)
US 33b 2+3 a very wrinkled "mail clerk"
US 36 1 miss Quackfaster (no name mentioned?)
WDC 258 4 clerk
5 3 clerks
US 38 9 some personnel
US 39 1+2 miss Quackfaster (still no name?)
US 44b 4+6 (large bed story) goose clerk called [Dutch Manusje]
US 45 4 female goose-clerk
US 46 1+last older clerk with glasses called Clerkly
WDC 280 3+4 fat clerk with glasses
US 47 1+5 clerk with glasses called [Dutch Klerks]
US 55 2 a dog-miss
US 61 1-4 clerk with glasses
US 62 1 a dog-miss
2 a clerk
US 70 7 clerk called [Dutch Klerks] (looks the same as in US 61
and elsewhere)
(there's one more PIG-clerk in a Daisy Diary story, but that doesn't count,
I guess)
--Harry.
Don Rosa:
> So, it sounds like there WEREN'T any office workers who appeared in
> more than one old $crooge story???
I have gone through my Dutch Barks collection and looked for employees of
Scrooge. Below, you find a list of what I found. I can't give all the
English names, since I looked at the Dutch versions. But mostly, when the
Dutch story gives a name to the employee, the original has a name, too.
Maybe Don or someone else can look at that.
(BTW: where is miss Quackfaster called Miss Quackfaster?)
I tried to describe the employees, but most of them actually are
neutral dog-faces. However, the clerk in the last US stories seems to be the
same.
I started with the Christmas Parade story. Some earlier stories may have a
butler ('Bear Mountain'?) but I think that's less relevant.
Here is the list:
Issue Page Clerk(s)
CP 21 ('you can't guess') butler called [Dutch Lodewijk]
WDC 144 1+10 clerk
WDC 159 2 clerk
US 5 7 clerk
WDC 164 3 quite fat one with glasses
US 6 1 4 employees
US 7 1 butler with sideburns
4 bookkeeper
US 7 (wages gag) 2 employees
US 11 (party gag) butler with sideburns
US 15 4 bookkeeper
US 16b 3 clerk (quiz show story)
US 18 (poverty gag) U$ _talks_ by intercom to miss [Dutch Eugenia]
US 19 1 8 employees carry tickets (#1 is fat, glasses)
last employees #1 and #2 of page 1
US 22 1 5 employees
2 2 other employees
5 one of the employees seems to have changed clothes.
He's called mr. Clerkmore.
US 23 2+3 chief-clerk
2 2 boyes from the office (and a nurse)
US 33b 2+3 a very wrinkled "mail clerk"
US 36 1 miss Quackfaster (no name mentioned?)
WDC 258 4 clerk
5 3 clerks
US 38 9 some personnel
US 39 1+2 miss Quackfaster (still no name?)
US 44b 4+6 (large bed story) goose clerk called [Dutch Manusje]
US 45 4 female goose-clerk
US 46 1+last older clerk with glasses called Clerkly
WDC 280 3+4 fat clerk with glasses
US 47 1+5 clerk with glasses called [Dutch Klerks]
US 55 2 a dog-miss
US 61 1-4 clerk with glasses
US 62 1 a dog-miss
2 a clerk
US 70 7 clerk called [Dutch Klerks] (looks the same as in US 61
and elsewhere)
(there's one more PIG-clerk in a Daisy Diary story, but that doesn't count,
I guess)
--Harry.
Don Rosa
Digest #57 (Scrooge's employees)
Message 24 -
1993-07-14 at 15:51:25
HARRY:
Thanks for all that work in searching through those old Barks stories. But I fear it may have been a waste since I wasn't looking
for just ANY time one of $crooge's office workers was shown -- I was needing to know if any were used more than ONCE, as was Quackfaster.
Your list MIGHT at least prove that NO, no other office workers WERE used more than once, but since you were looking at Dutch editions
where the names may have been changed or ignored, I can't even be sure of that. But still, as I said, your list would seem to suggest
that no office employee of $crooge was ever used twice other than Quackfaster (who just BARELY makes the cut).
Naturally I could sit down and sift through my collection of $crooge comics myself, and I would never ask anyone else to do my
busy-work for me. I was only hoping that someone out there might happen to already know about some twice-used employee.
Anyway, thanks for the list! I'm saving it and I'll double-check it against the American ("official"?) editions to see if any break
throughs result.
Thanks for all that work in searching through those old Barks stories. But I fear it may have been a waste since I wasn't looking
for just ANY time one of $crooge's office workers was shown -- I was needing to know if any were used more than ONCE, as was Quackfaster.
Your list MIGHT at least prove that NO, no other office workers WERE used more than once, but since you were looking at Dutch editions
where the names may have been changed or ignored, I can't even be sure of that. But still, as I said, your list would seem to suggest
that no office employee of $crooge was ever used twice other than Quackfaster (who just BARELY makes the cut).
Naturally I could sit down and sift through my collection of $crooge comics myself, and I would never ask anyone else to do my
busy-work for me. I was only hoping that someone out there might happen to already know about some twice-used employee.
Anyway, thanks for the list! I'm saving it and I'll double-check it against the American ("official"?) editions to see if any break
throughs result.
Chris Lawton
Donald and Mickey
Message 25 -
1993-07-14 at 19:38:05
Hi Everybody.
Finally got a hold of some of the new Gladstone issues - just haven't had
much time these days to go to the store and pick them up. Anyway...
I really like the Gladstone issues. I started buying comics with Disney
issues of Roger Rabbit, Mickey Mouse et al. and I feel that Gladstone really
does credit to the presentation of the stories. I especially liked the
piece in the front and rear cover of Donald and Mickey #19 about the start
of Mickey and Donald. (although the facts about Mickey are slightly different
than what I've read in the past)
About Donald and Mickey #19. (The only one I've had a chance to read so far)
The first Donald Duck story is hilarious! A great story to start the series.
(or should I say continue :) ) But what I was waiting for was Mickey.
I have to say I was a little disapointed. :( Mickey just seems to be a
by-stander. At only one point in the story does Mickey contribute to the
plot, comming up with the totally correct answer to the mystery without any
clues whatsoever. Hmm... I know Mickey is suppossed to be intelligent but
I didn't know he was clairvoyant too! :) Well, I hope to see Mickey with
a more significant part in WDCS #586 when I get a chance to read it.
Gotta get back to work so
See you in the comics...
Chris Mickey's #1 Fan! :) :)
Finally got a hold of some of the new Gladstone issues - just haven't had
much time these days to go to the store and pick them up. Anyway...
I really like the Gladstone issues. I started buying comics with Disney
issues of Roger Rabbit, Mickey Mouse et al. and I feel that Gladstone really
does credit to the presentation of the stories. I especially liked the
piece in the front and rear cover of Donald and Mickey #19 about the start
of Mickey and Donald. (although the facts about Mickey are slightly different
than what I've read in the past)
About Donald and Mickey #19. (The only one I've had a chance to read so far)
The first Donald Duck story is hilarious! A great story to start the series.
(or should I say continue :) ) But what I was waiting for was Mickey.
I have to say I was a little disapointed. :( Mickey just seems to be a
by-stander. At only one point in the story does Mickey contribute to the
plot, comming up with the totally correct answer to the mystery without any
clues whatsoever. Hmm... I know Mickey is suppossed to be intelligent but
I didn't know he was clairvoyant too! :) Well, I hope to see Mickey with
a more significant part in WDCS #586 when I get a chance to read it.
Gotta get back to work so
See you in the comics...
Chris Mickey's #1 Fan! :) :)
Harry Fluks
Scrooge's employees again
Message 26 -
1993-07-15 at 18:58:03
> Thanks for all that work in searching through those old Barks stories.
> But I fear it may have been a waste since I wasn't looking
> for just ANY time one of $crooge's office workers was shown -- I was needing
> to know if any were used more than ONCE, as was Quackfaster.
I know that, but I thought I'd just give a list and let YOU decide which
ones are the same and which are different.
> Your list MIGHT at least prove that NO, no other office workers WERE used
> more than once
I'm not sure that my list proves that. Have a look at the last US stories,
at least...
And *I* am curious about Ms. Quackfaster. Did Barks give her this name?
If so, where? Why is she so well-known if she appears in only 2 Barks stories?
Anyone?
--Harry.
> But I fear it may have been a waste since I wasn't looking
> for just ANY time one of $crooge's office workers was shown -- I was needing
> to know if any were used more than ONCE, as was Quackfaster.
I know that, but I thought I'd just give a list and let YOU decide which
ones are the same and which are different.
> Your list MIGHT at least prove that NO, no other office workers WERE used
> more than once
I'm not sure that my list proves that. Have a look at the last US stories,
at least...
And *I* am curious about Ms. Quackfaster. Did Barks give her this name?
If so, where? Why is she so well-known if she appears in only 2 Barks stories?
Anyone?
--Harry.
Andrew Krieg 5-5379
War of the Wendigo
Message 27 -
1993-07-16 at 07:26:43
Greetings all!
Today I finally got to read "The War of the Wendigo" in English! I wonder
how many folks can claim this? I'll bet it's under 100!!
Many thanks to Fredrik Ekman for providing me with the Swedish comics which
printed "WotW" and to master storyteller Don Rosa for providing me the
storyboard layouts and dialogue. 27 pages of sheer delight!
I kept thinking about Dr. Seuss' "The Lorax" when reading this tale. Was
this one of your influences Don? What was your source for the legend of the
Wendigo? The only legend I have heard deals with the transformation of a man
into a monster (the Wendigo) after he cannibalizes in the North woods
(grisly, eh?).
I loved looking at the evolution between storyboard and comic. Do you do
this for all of your work? Do most comic artists work this way as well?
Thanks again to both of you!
Andy
Today I finally got to read "The War of the Wendigo" in English! I wonder
how many folks can claim this? I'll bet it's under 100!!
Many thanks to Fredrik Ekman for providing me with the Swedish comics which
printed "WotW" and to master storyteller Don Rosa for providing me the
storyboard layouts and dialogue. 27 pages of sheer delight!
I kept thinking about Dr. Seuss' "The Lorax" when reading this tale. Was
this one of your influences Don? What was your source for the legend of the
Wendigo? The only legend I have heard deals with the transformation of a man
into a monster (the Wendigo) after he cannibalizes in the North woods
(grisly, eh?).
I loved looking at the evolution between storyboard and comic. Do you do
this for all of your work? Do most comic artists work this way as well?
Thanks again to both of you!
Andy
Don Rosa
Disney Digest
Message 28 -
1993-07-19 at 16:40:01
Let's see if this message gets through. I started using CIM
software to call up COMPUSERVE, and it is very pretty, but not as simple
and efficient as PROCOMM. One problem is that when I used to finish
reading mail I'd hit "Enter"... now when I do that, it DELETES the
message and I can't reply. More on that later.
Andy was commenting on my "War of the Wendigo" story. No, if
I've ever read that "Lomax" story, I have no memory of it and it was not
an influence. And as for how many people have read that story in
English, it's VASTLY less than 100. In fact, I'd guess you are the ONLY
living soul who's seen that story in America, outside of a few people in
the Disney office who banned it (but then, THEY didn't read it, they
just saw the Indians).
My version of the Wendigo legend is the authentic native
American / pioneer explorer version. Your version sounds like it came
outtuva comic book... unless there are different versions depending on
which tribe of Canadian Indians you talk to.
I have no idea how any other person does their comics. But you
still aren't seeing the whole process just looking at my "storyboard
script". Before that is the thumbnail-sketch pages and the huge
notebooks filled with notes and different versions of each word
balloon... not to mention the other versions of each story which exist
in a few cases when Byron Erickson has helped me change a story around
for some reason. The "Life of $crooge" has about 20 or 30 unfinished
pages that will never see print.
Harry:
Due to that glitch in my CIM, I inadvertantly ERASED your
$crooge employee list before I could save it. I don't suppose you still
have it around???? (blush) Maybe you could just list those few times
when it looked like it might be the same employee?
software to call up COMPUSERVE, and it is very pretty, but not as simple
and efficient as PROCOMM. One problem is that when I used to finish
reading mail I'd hit "Enter"... now when I do that, it DELETES the
message and I can't reply. More on that later.
Andy was commenting on my "War of the Wendigo" story. No, if
I've ever read that "Lomax" story, I have no memory of it and it was not
an influence. And as for how many people have read that story in
English, it's VASTLY less than 100. In fact, I'd guess you are the ONLY
living soul who's seen that story in America, outside of a few people in
the Disney office who banned it (but then, THEY didn't read it, they
just saw the Indians).
My version of the Wendigo legend is the authentic native
American / pioneer explorer version. Your version sounds like it came
outtuva comic book... unless there are different versions depending on
which tribe of Canadian Indians you talk to.
I have no idea how any other person does their comics. But you
still aren't seeing the whole process just looking at my "storyboard
script". Before that is the thumbnail-sketch pages and the huge
notebooks filled with notes and different versions of each word
balloon... not to mention the other versions of each story which exist
in a few cases when Byron Erickson has helped me change a story around
for some reason. The "Life of $crooge" has about 20 or 30 unfinished
pages that will never see print.
Harry:
Due to that glitch in my CIM, I inadvertantly ERASED your
$crooge employee list before I could save it. I don't suppose you still
have it around???? (blush) Maybe you could just list those few times
when it looked like it might be the same employee?
Don Rosa
Digest #58
Message 29 -
1993-07-19 at 18:53:25
Did my comments to the last Digest come through?
Per Starback
Duck and cover!
Message 30 -
1993-07-20 at 16:15:36
Hi all of you! I've been awfully quiet here for some time, in part
because I've been away on a Donaldist Woodchuck club meeting out in
the country. Here are some random comments on what has been going on
here:
Uncle Scrooge, His Life and Times
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don> The whole point of the book was to have some artsy-fartsy artist color the
Don> old Dell photostats and make them look "special". Many of us think it was
Don> an interesting idea, but the stories looked weird and murky; I much prefer
Don> the color as it was meant to be, as it was done by Dell.
Harry> I fully agree!
I also like standard comics colouring better than what was in USHLAT,
but the Dell colouring wasn't always that good. I prefer some Dutch
Disney comics I have and also the current Carl Barks Library in Color
seems to be very well done (I don't have that though, so I haven't
looked at it that closely).
Apropos of that: I've heard that they will start yet another CBL in
Color series this autumn with "everything else". Anyone else knows
more about that?
Gladstone
~~~~~~~~~
It's interesting to hear different opinions on the new Gladstones,
even though I haven't gotten any of them yet so I don't have anything
to say myself. (I want it cheap, not fast.) But why are they
serializing a Gottfredson story that they already have printed (in an
album)?
Old messages
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don Rosa:
> Harry:
> Due to that glitch in my CIM, I inadvertantly ERASED your
> $crooge employee list before I could save it. I don't suppose you still
> have it around???? (blush) Maybe you could just list those few times
> when it looked like it might be the same employee?
He had a copy around and Don has already got it, but I though I might
take this opportunity to mention to you all that it would have worked
out alright anyway since I (as the list admin) save *everything* sent
to the list. So anytime you happen to lose some message or suddenly
realize that you'd like some message posted last year that you deleted
a long time ago, just send a note telling what you want to
disney-comics-request at minsk.docs.uu.se, and I'll send it to you.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
because I've been away on a Donaldist Woodchuck club meeting out in
the country. Here are some random comments on what has been going on
here:
Uncle Scrooge, His Life and Times
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don> The whole point of the book was to have some artsy-fartsy artist color the
Don> old Dell photostats and make them look "special". Many of us think it was
Don> an interesting idea, but the stories looked weird and murky; I much prefer
Don> the color as it was meant to be, as it was done by Dell.
Harry> I fully agree!
I also like standard comics colouring better than what was in USHLAT,
but the Dell colouring wasn't always that good. I prefer some Dutch
Disney comics I have and also the current Carl Barks Library in Color
seems to be very well done (I don't have that though, so I haven't
looked at it that closely).
Apropos of that: I've heard that they will start yet another CBL in
Color series this autumn with "everything else". Anyone else knows
more about that?
Gladstone
~~~~~~~~~
It's interesting to hear different opinions on the new Gladstones,
even though I haven't gotten any of them yet so I don't have anything
to say myself. (I want it cheap, not fast.) But why are they
serializing a Gottfredson story that they already have printed (in an
album)?
Old messages
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don Rosa:
> Harry:
> Due to that glitch in my CIM, I inadvertantly ERASED your
> $crooge employee list before I could save it. I don't suppose you still
> have it around???? (blush) Maybe you could just list those few times
> when it looked like it might be the same employee?
He had a copy around and Don has already got it, but I though I might
take this opportunity to mention to you all that it would have worked
out alright anyway since I (as the list admin) save *everything* sent
to the list. So anytime you happen to lose some message or suddenly
realize that you'd like some message posted last year that you deleted
a long time ago, just send a note telling what you want to
disney-comics-request at minsk.docs.uu.se, and I'll send it to you.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"