On Thu, 9 Dec 1993, David A Gerstein wrote:
> Dear Folks,
> Several things to comment on today.
> Torsten on MM and Goofy at EPCOT
> ================================
> You implied that Gladstone might print that story... oh, gosh
> I hope they *don't*!! It's another story from the same guys that gave
> us "Mickey and the Sleuth," isn't it? And the thought that Mickey
> spends the whole story lecturing... all work and no play makes Mickey
> a dull boy.
It was a JOKE! Given all the talk over the publication of Don's stories
here in the states, I thought it would be clever of me to say the same
about this comic book. However, now that you mention it....
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Author
Topic: 199312
(129 messages)
Torsten Wesley Adair
Disney-comics digest #180.
Message 46 -
1993-12-10 at 16:56:03
Torsten Wesley Adair
+Postage Due+Disney-comics digest #180.
Message 47 -
1993-12-10 at 17:01:49
On 10 Dec 1993, Don Rosa wrote:
> TORSTEN:
> What's all this about that Mickey & Goofy oil propaganda comic
> book? You don't really think Gladstone would ever reprint this, do you?
Geez, if this keeps up, I WILL petition Gladstone to print it!
> And why were you surprised that the only form of energy discussed is
> oil? The comic was produced by Exxon! That's the only form of energy
> they want you to use!
I wasn't surprised at all. I thought my comment on the Prudhoe/VALDEZ
panel was proof enough.
> Which is one reason that, even if Gladstone WANTED to reprint
> that comic, they probably would not be allowed to. Disney probably
> shares equal control over the contents with Exxon and the oil company
> wouldn't allow its use in a form from which they didn't derive profit or
> publicity.
Good. I'll stockpile this title and sell it to unsuspecting Disneyanas in
five years.
Or burn it in my fireplace.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
> TORSTEN:
> What's all this about that Mickey & Goofy oil propaganda comic
> book? You don't really think Gladstone would ever reprint this, do you?
Geez, if this keeps up, I WILL petition Gladstone to print it!
> And why were you surprised that the only form of energy discussed is
> oil? The comic was produced by Exxon! That's the only form of energy
> they want you to use!
I wasn't surprised at all. I thought my comment on the Prudhoe/VALDEZ
panel was proof enough.
> Which is one reason that, even if Gladstone WANTED to reprint
> that comic, they probably would not be allowed to. Disney probably
> shares equal control over the contents with Exxon and the oil company
> wouldn't allow its use in a form from which they didn't derive profit or
> publicity.
Good. I'll stockpile this title and sell it to unsuspecting Disneyanas in
five years.
Or burn it in my fireplace.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Don Rosa
+Postage Due+Disney-comics digest #181.
Message 48 -
1993-12-11 at 06:32:04
Harry:
Well, okay, your Oberon friend didn't say that the German script
he had was a version of mine... but still, WHY would he not think that
the English script that Egmont sends him is not my version. It IS my
original version. Now that I work with Byron Erickson, I know that the
Egmont scripts are my original scripts or versions with tiny changes
that I've inspected and fully agreed with.
The "proofs" you mention of Barks holding Grandma as being
Donald's Grandma are the best -- how many proofs are needed? One proof
is enough for... proof. But as for this idea of Grandma being Donald's
mother or $crooge's sister which some European countries have adopted --
what shred of evidence or reason exists to indicate anyone ever implied
or intended this? Even if someone could say that there was no "proof"
that Grandma is DD's granny, where would they find a reason to assume
something else which isn't even suggested by her very name? And as for
her being $crooge's sister, if the creator of $crooge clearly never
intended this then why would someone think it to be so?
It's not that I think this is an issue of earth-shaking
importance, but I'm curious why anyone would pick the least apparent or
logical of the two options.
Well, okay, your Oberon friend didn't say that the German script
he had was a version of mine... but still, WHY would he not think that
the English script that Egmont sends him is not my version. It IS my
original version. Now that I work with Byron Erickson, I know that the
Egmont scripts are my original scripts or versions with tiny changes
that I've inspected and fully agreed with.
The "proofs" you mention of Barks holding Grandma as being
Donald's Grandma are the best -- how many proofs are needed? One proof
is enough for... proof. But as for this idea of Grandma being Donald's
mother or $crooge's sister which some European countries have adopted --
what shred of evidence or reason exists to indicate anyone ever implied
or intended this? Even if someone could say that there was no "proof"
that Grandma is DD's granny, where would they find a reason to assume
something else which isn't even suggested by her very name? And as for
her being $crooge's sister, if the creator of $crooge clearly never
intended this then why would someone think it to be so?
It's not that I think this is an issue of earth-shaking
importance, but I'm curious why anyone would pick the least apparent or
logical of the two options.
David A Gerstein
LO$ Informant on r.a.d.
Message 49 -
1993-12-13 at 06:38:29
Dear Folks,
Seems that rec.arts.disney has been informed about the "Life
of Scrooge" by someone who knows nothing about the wealth of
information we have on it...
(Here's his message)
From: CBUCHAN1 at ua1vm.ua.edu (charles buchanan)
Subject: Disney Comics Epic Coming Soon!
Beginning next month in Disney Comics (Uncle Scrooge title, I presume):
--An epic 12-PART story entitled "The Life of Scrooge"!!!--
This is the story I think most Disney Comics and Scrooge fans have been
waiting for. It's being drawn by Don Rosa, a great Duck artist and writer
(although I've lost some respect for him after his anti-r.a.d. posts!).
I don't know what episodes of Scrooge's life are featured or how much of them
will be based on the original Carl Barks stories.
--Charles Buchanan
(End of transcribed message)
I don't know what to say when it comes to the "rightness" of
Don Rosa's r-a-d posts, because I *do* find many of the articles on
the silly side, just like he does. A debate is now raging as to
Ariel's cuteness, and others are writing sonnets to her. (Something
about *this particular character* seems to get people right in the
gills... or somewhere. I'm gonna stay out of it...) Anyway, though,
I am taking the liberty of posting some info from the don-rosa index
onto r-a-d so they know what's coming...
I'll also end with the usual promotion for our group.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Seems that rec.arts.disney has been informed about the "Life
of Scrooge" by someone who knows nothing about the wealth of
information we have on it...
(Here's his message)
From: CBUCHAN1 at ua1vm.ua.edu (charles buchanan)
Subject: Disney Comics Epic Coming Soon!
Beginning next month in Disney Comics (Uncle Scrooge title, I presume):
--An epic 12-PART story entitled "The Life of Scrooge"!!!--
This is the story I think most Disney Comics and Scrooge fans have been
waiting for. It's being drawn by Don Rosa, a great Duck artist and writer
(although I've lost some respect for him after his anti-r.a.d. posts!).
I don't know what episodes of Scrooge's life are featured or how much of them
will be based on the original Carl Barks stories.
--Charles Buchanan
(End of transcribed message)
I don't know what to say when it comes to the "rightness" of
Don Rosa's r-a-d posts, because I *do* find many of the articles on
the silly side, just like he does. A debate is now raging as to
Ariel's cuteness, and others are writing sonnets to her. (Something
about *this particular character* seems to get people right in the
gills... or somewhere. I'm gonna stay out of it...) Anyway, though,
I am taking the liberty of posting some info from the don-rosa index
onto r-a-d so they know what's coming...
I'll also end with the usual promotion for our group.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Mattias Hallin
Don's Drawings and Fan Critique
Message 50 -
1993-12-13 at 10:44:11
SPOILER!SPOILER!SPOILER!SPOILER!SPOILER!SPOILER!SPOILER!SPOILER!
Don:
You said the other day that for Lo$ you "hadn't used your clipfiles at
all"; but that cannot be quite true, can it? I mean, in one of the Klondike
chapters (part 9, I think) you are using what to me seems copied poses of
$crooge paying back his debt to Soapy Slick from the Barks "Jolt Magazine
Interview Story" (I can't remember it's title off-hand). I DON'T mean to say
that this is wrong in any way, or anything at all like that, but only that it
seems contradictory to what you told Lars Reichstein last week. And there are
other such "reference frames" throughout the Lo$ as I seem to remember: the
"Ya! Tightwad"-frame from "Only A Poor Old Man", $crooge prospecting for copper
from that story too, and others as well I think. Nothing that bothers me in any
way, not at all, just that... well. I AM a bureacrat, you know...!
And about criticism amongst donaldists, I, too, have occasionally come across
duck-fans who don't like your style or your drawings - a friend of mine here in
Lund f'rinstance, NAFS(k)-member Hanna Peterson, has said that she thinks using
templates is "cheating"...! And among fandom in general there has occasionally
been view-points like "stiff" or "too undergroundy", but these are the few
dissenting voices - I have NEVER come across anything like a GENERAL antipathy
towards your work, but rather the opposite: most duck-fans I know really
appreciate what you're doing! Including, as you well know, your humble
undersigned
Mattias
Don:
You said the other day that for Lo$ you "hadn't used your clipfiles at
all"; but that cannot be quite true, can it? I mean, in one of the Klondike
chapters (part 9, I think) you are using what to me seems copied poses of
$crooge paying back his debt to Soapy Slick from the Barks "Jolt Magazine
Interview Story" (I can't remember it's title off-hand). I DON'T mean to say
that this is wrong in any way, or anything at all like that, but only that it
seems contradictory to what you told Lars Reichstein last week. And there are
other such "reference frames" throughout the Lo$ as I seem to remember: the
"Ya! Tightwad"-frame from "Only A Poor Old Man", $crooge prospecting for copper
from that story too, and others as well I think. Nothing that bothers me in any
way, not at all, just that... well. I AM a bureacrat, you know...!
And about criticism amongst donaldists, I, too, have occasionally come across
duck-fans who don't like your style or your drawings - a friend of mine here in
Lund f'rinstance, NAFS(k)-member Hanna Peterson, has said that she thinks using
templates is "cheating"...! And among fandom in general there has occasionally
been view-points like "stiff" or "too undergroundy", but these are the few
dissenting voices - I have NEVER come across anything like a GENERAL antipathy
towards your work, but rather the opposite: most duck-fans I know really
appreciate what you're doing! Including, as you well know, your humble
undersigned
Mattias
Fabio Gadducci
Italian Grandma...
Message 51 -
1993-12-13 at 17:18:52
Hi, true believers... (cough, made a mistake...)
Just two words on the hottest topic in Duckdom.
As not so many of you may know, Luca Boschi is editing another version of
the duck tree, in order to be published (probably) in issue 2000 of
Topolino.
It will be a tree completely different from Don's, since a lot of
characters out of Barksian canon will be included: even some Italian
characters like Sgrizzo and Paperetta Ye-Ye (both created by Scarpa).
I think I'll send to the list the final version when I get it, anyway I can
assure you that Grandma Duck is Donalds's grandma, and that she is not
$crooge's sister. The 50 years anniversary story by Rota, as some other
story (like that of the totem pole someone referred to), are not considered
part of the canonical tree (you can think of those as Elseworlds...:-)
A last thing about Don's publications: Harry is right, none of his stories
is appeared in Italy yet, even if his work is very well known by fans (I
think that the first reference to him was in an interview with Romano
Scarpa, appeared in a book published in 1988 that Boschi, Gori and Sani
devoted to the Venetian Maestro.
That's all, folks!
Fabio
================================================================
Fabio Gadducci Dip. di Informatica
Home: +39-50-541725 Universita` di Pisa
Off.: +39-50-510268 Corso Italia 40, 56100 PISA (ITALY)
FAX: +39-50-510226 E-mail:gadducci at di.unipi.it
================================================================
Just two words on the hottest topic in Duckdom.
As not so many of you may know, Luca Boschi is editing another version of
the duck tree, in order to be published (probably) in issue 2000 of
Topolino.
It will be a tree completely different from Don's, since a lot of
characters out of Barksian canon will be included: even some Italian
characters like Sgrizzo and Paperetta Ye-Ye (both created by Scarpa).
I think I'll send to the list the final version when I get it, anyway I can
assure you that Grandma Duck is Donalds's grandma, and that she is not
$crooge's sister. The 50 years anniversary story by Rota, as some other
story (like that of the totem pole someone referred to), are not considered
part of the canonical tree (you can think of those as Elseworlds...:-)
A last thing about Don's publications: Harry is right, none of his stories
is appeared in Italy yet, even if his work is very well known by fans (I
think that the first reference to him was in an interview with Romano
Scarpa, appeared in a book published in 1988 that Boschi, Gori and Sani
devoted to the Venetian Maestro.
That's all, folks!
Fabio
================================================================
Fabio Gadducci Dip. di Informatica
Home: +39-50-541725 Universita` di Pisa
Off.: +39-50-510268 Corso Italia 40, 56100 PISA (ITALY)
FAX: +39-50-510226 E-mail:gadducci at di.unipi.it
================================================================
Harry Fluks
Dutch Rosa, and "The continuing story of Grandma Duck"
Message 52 -
1993-12-13 at 21:58:05
Don wrote:
> Well, okay, your Oberon friend didn't say that the German script
> he had was a version of mine... but still, WHY would he not think that
> the English script that Egmont sends him is not my version. It IS my
> original version.
I don't know. When I talked to him, I assumed he didn't get YOUR english
version. We was kind of defending himself for my questions about bad
translations.
> The "proofs" you mention of Barks holding Grandma as being
> Donald's Grandma are the best -- how many proofs are needed? One proof
> is enough for... proof.
I'm just curious whether there is more. The Vacation Parade story was not
printed in Holland before 1966, so either they explicitly decided Grandma
to be Donald's mother (in the 50s), or they just "missed the evidence".
> But as for this idea of Grandma being Donald's
> mother or $crooge's sister which some European countries have adopted --
> what shred of evidence or reason exists to indicate anyone ever implied
> or intended this? Even if someone could say that there was no "proof"
> that Grandma is DD's granny, where would they find a reason to assume
> something else which isn't even suggested by her very name?
I always thought Grandma _was_ Donald's mother until _you_ told us
otherwise. And as I said, here name is "Grandma", and it is not unusual
(at least not where I come from) to call your mother Grandma when children
are around.
BTW: There is a Taliaferro daily strip where the nephews get Donald's school
report from Grandma. Would a grandmother save such things? Hm... maybe.
> And as for her being $crooge's sister,
OK, that's a different matter. Only after the publishing of the Italian
"origin" story by Marco Rota, the Dutch consider Scrooge to be Grandma's
brother. In Holland they have the same last name: Duck.
> It's not that I think this is an issue of earth-shaking
> importance
I agree...
--Harry.
> Well, okay, your Oberon friend didn't say that the German script
> he had was a version of mine... but still, WHY would he not think that
> the English script that Egmont sends him is not my version. It IS my
> original version.
I don't know. When I talked to him, I assumed he didn't get YOUR english
version. We was kind of defending himself for my questions about bad
translations.
> The "proofs" you mention of Barks holding Grandma as being
> Donald's Grandma are the best -- how many proofs are needed? One proof
> is enough for... proof.
I'm just curious whether there is more. The Vacation Parade story was not
printed in Holland before 1966, so either they explicitly decided Grandma
to be Donald's mother (in the 50s), or they just "missed the evidence".
> But as for this idea of Grandma being Donald's
> mother or $crooge's sister which some European countries have adopted --
> what shred of evidence or reason exists to indicate anyone ever implied
> or intended this? Even if someone could say that there was no "proof"
> that Grandma is DD's granny, where would they find a reason to assume
> something else which isn't even suggested by her very name?
I always thought Grandma _was_ Donald's mother until _you_ told us
otherwise. And as I said, here name is "Grandma", and it is not unusual
(at least not where I come from) to call your mother Grandma when children
are around.
BTW: There is a Taliaferro daily strip where the nephews get Donald's school
report from Grandma. Would a grandmother save such things? Hm... maybe.
> And as for her being $crooge's sister,
OK, that's a different matter. Only after the publishing of the Italian
"origin" story by Marco Rota, the Dutch consider Scrooge to be Grandma's
brother. In Holland they have the same last name: Duck.
> It's not that I think this is an issue of earth-shaking
> importance
I agree...
--Harry.
Torsten Wesley Adair
Volume 3 Issue 49 Part 7 (fwd)
Message 53 -
1993-12-14 at 01:07:45
Number 18! .45% of the U.S. direct market! Hoo Haa!
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 14:45:22 CDT
From: Bill Hayes <IANR012 at UNLVM.UNL.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list COMICS-L <COMICS-L at UNLVM.UNL.EDU>
Subject: Volume 3 Issue 49 Part 7
December 13, 1993 The Comics List Weekly Vol. 3 No. 49 Pt. 7
This Week:
Marketing : Top Publishers for December 1993
[...]
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1993 19:15:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: ANTARCTIC at delphi.com
Subject: Top Publishers for December 1993
Here's a quick list of the top publishers for December 1993,
by dollar share of the direct market, as reported by Capital City.
Publisher Year 92 7/93 8/93 9/93 10/93 11/93 12/93
1 Marvel 45.76% 30.70% 30.74% 32.50% 31.12% 31.12% 30.24%
[...]
18 Gladstone .26% .24% .24% .28% .22% .32% .45%
[...]
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 14:45:22 CDT
From: Bill Hayes <IANR012 at UNLVM.UNL.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list COMICS-L <COMICS-L at UNLVM.UNL.EDU>
Subject: Volume 3 Issue 49 Part 7
December 13, 1993 The Comics List Weekly Vol. 3 No. 49 Pt. 7
This Week:
Marketing : Top Publishers for December 1993
[...]
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1993 19:15:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: ANTARCTIC at delphi.com
Subject: Top Publishers for December 1993
Here's a quick list of the top publishers for December 1993,
by dollar share of the direct market, as reported by Capital City.
Publisher Year 92 7/93 8/93 9/93 10/93 11/93 12/93
1 Marvel 45.76% 30.70% 30.74% 32.50% 31.12% 31.12% 30.24%
[...]
18 Gladstone .26% .24% .24% .28% .22% .32% .45%
[...]
Don Rosa
+Postage Due+Disney-comics digest #183.
Message 54 -
1993-12-14 at 06:24:12
DAVID:
I think this comment by a R.A.D. member is quite revealing. I
was invited to reply to a question from a member of that forum which he
was to post there, and I asked the fellow what that group was like --
whether it was full of mindless Disney zombies or discriminating fans.
Sure, I used my usual ... ornate description of such zombies, but since
I had never seen R.A.D. I could not possibly make any comment concerning
it. But I see that some see any mention of "Disney zombies" to be an
insult to R.A.D., eh? What does that tell us? Obviously these people
themselves see R.A.D. as such, but are upset that it might be so
obvious? Anyway, any insult to R.A.D. was in the mind of the beholder
in this case.
David, I depend on you to pass along correct info on the Lo$ to
R.A.D., as well as THIS message.
MATTIAS:
Now wait! When I refer to swiping from a clip-file, I mean the
practice of copying poses from various Barks panels and placing them
into my own scenes. What YOU refer to -- my use of actual scenes from
old Barks stories to place the events in the context of my framework --
is completely different. I'm not swiping because the reader is supposed
to immediately recognize the panel as not a copy but a direct tracing of
the original.
Now the "60th Birthday" story I'm doing now IS full of swipes!
I today received a copy of the new CARL BARKS & CO. #20, I
assume sent to me by Freddy Milton. Does anyone else have a copy of
this?
I think this comment by a R.A.D. member is quite revealing. I
was invited to reply to a question from a member of that forum which he
was to post there, and I asked the fellow what that group was like --
whether it was full of mindless Disney zombies or discriminating fans.
Sure, I used my usual ... ornate description of such zombies, but since
I had never seen R.A.D. I could not possibly make any comment concerning
it. But I see that some see any mention of "Disney zombies" to be an
insult to R.A.D., eh? What does that tell us? Obviously these people
themselves see R.A.D. as such, but are upset that it might be so
obvious? Anyway, any insult to R.A.D. was in the mind of the beholder
in this case.
David, I depend on you to pass along correct info on the Lo$ to
R.A.D., as well as THIS message.
MATTIAS:
Now wait! When I refer to swiping from a clip-file, I mean the
practice of copying poses from various Barks panels and placing them
into my own scenes. What YOU refer to -- my use of actual scenes from
old Barks stories to place the events in the context of my framework --
is completely different. I'm not swiping because the reader is supposed
to immediately recognize the panel as not a copy but a direct tracing of
the original.
Now the "60th Birthday" story I'm doing now IS full of swipes!
I today received a copy of the new CARL BARKS & CO. #20, I
assume sent to me by Freddy Milton. Does anyone else have a copy of
this?
Don Rosa
+Postage Due+Disney-comics digest #183.
Message 55 -
1993-12-14 at 06:28:27
ALSO -- DAVID:
Why does the guy on R.A.D. think the title of the series
is "Life of Scrooge"? The original title is "The Life and Times of
$crooge McDuck". Is Gladstone going to use that other, rather DRAB
title????
Why does the guy on R.A.D. think the title of the series
is "Life of Scrooge"? The original title is "The Life and Times of
$crooge McDuck". Is Gladstone going to use that other, rather DRAB
title????
Mattias Hallin
Sorry!
Message 56 -
1993-12-14 at 10:38:25
Don:
Sorry! I got you wrong there - thanks for the explanation! And I hope I
made it clear that I DON'T AT ALL mind your occasional Barks-reference swipes,
simply because they are indeed immediately identifiable as such. And actually
I've never particularly minded your use of Barks poses from, as you put it,
"the clip-file" either, because they, too, are usually identifiable. Two
reasons, though, for you to go easy on the latter practice might be:
a) that it creates a somewhat uneven result with a certain amount of clashing
styles; and
b) that I honestly don't think you need to! Certain parts of Lo$ has been very
un-Barksy, and I've liked those parts very much! F'rinstance the SPOILER ALERT!
SPOILER ALERT!SPOILER ALERT! riverboat fight scene in part 9, where $crooge's
expressions of wrath are totally unlike anything Barks ever did, belong to my
favorite parts, not least BECAUSE it is different.
Mattias
Sorry! I got you wrong there - thanks for the explanation! And I hope I
made it clear that I DON'T AT ALL mind your occasional Barks-reference swipes,
simply because they are indeed immediately identifiable as such. And actually
I've never particularly minded your use of Barks poses from, as you put it,
"the clip-file" either, because they, too, are usually identifiable. Two
reasons, though, for you to go easy on the latter practice might be:
a) that it creates a somewhat uneven result with a certain amount of clashing
styles; and
b) that I honestly don't think you need to! Certain parts of Lo$ has been very
un-Barksy, and I've liked those parts very much! F'rinstance the SPOILER ALERT!
SPOILER ALERT!SPOILER ALERT! riverboat fight scene in part 9, where $crooge's
expressions of wrath are totally unlike anything Barks ever did, belong to my
favorite parts, not least BECAUSE it is different.
Mattias
Fredrik Ekman
The Van Horn and Character Names index files
Message 57 -
1993-12-14 at 12:42:32
Hi all!
Soon after New Year, I plan to release new versions of the files I'm
maintaining. Thus, now is the time to send any new additions to them,
especially any recent US publications by William Van Horn.
Oh, and in case this is my last post before the hollidays;
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
/F
Soon after New Year, I plan to release new versions of the files I'm
maintaining. Thus, now is the time to send any new additions to them,
especially any recent US publications by William Van Horn.
Oh, and in case this is my last post before the hollidays;
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
/F
David A Gerstein
Various updates
Message 58 -
1993-12-14 at 19:48:48
Dear Folks,
Things are progressing on the Italian front.
A few days ago I received in the mail from Fabio "Paolino
Paperino e il Mistero di Marte." This is a long DD adventure from
1937, the first long Duck story ever produced. Fabio is translating
it to make a rough English script, which I will then dialogue, thus
making the English version of the story which Gladstone may have in
the DD 60th birthday issue.
Meanwhile, John Clark himself sent me "Zio Paperone e le
Lenticchie di Babilonia" (Uncle Scrooge and the Lentils from Babylon).
This is one of Romano Scarpa's most famous stories, and I'll be
making the American script for the story's summer 1994 release.
There's also a third story, the 1939 story "Paperino
Chiromante" (Donald Duck, Necromancer), which I'm hoping to do; Fabio
also mailed me it; but it will need some serious reworking because
Donald acts out of character in places. It has so many good moments
otherwise, though, that I think it's worth the struggle. I don't know
when this one will be published.
Fabio, do you want to add anything to this?
That's all for now... I'm off to lunch!
David Gerstein
"Whipped cream on the nuts, sir?"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Things are progressing on the Italian front.
A few days ago I received in the mail from Fabio "Paolino
Paperino e il Mistero di Marte." This is a long DD adventure from
1937, the first long Duck story ever produced. Fabio is translating
it to make a rough English script, which I will then dialogue, thus
making the English version of the story which Gladstone may have in
the DD 60th birthday issue.
Meanwhile, John Clark himself sent me "Zio Paperone e le
Lenticchie di Babilonia" (Uncle Scrooge and the Lentils from Babylon).
This is one of Romano Scarpa's most famous stories, and I'll be
making the American script for the story's summer 1994 release.
There's also a third story, the 1939 story "Paperino
Chiromante" (Donald Duck, Necromancer), which I'm hoping to do; Fabio
also mailed me it; but it will need some serious reworking because
Donald acts out of character in places. It has so many good moments
otherwise, though, that I think it's worth the struggle. I don't know
when this one will be published.
Fabio, do you want to add anything to this?
That's all for now... I'm off to lunch!
David Gerstein
"Whipped cream on the nuts, sir?"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Don Rosa
+Postage Due+Disney-comics digest #184.
Message 59 -
1993-12-15 at 08:39:27
DAVID:
This "long" Donald Duck adventure from 1939 is to be in the 60th
Birthday issue. AND the Donald vs. Gladstone story you mentioned? AND my
16 pager? Since when does Gladstone publish comics that thick? Since
when does ANYONE these days publish comics that thick, other than
"graphic novels" (comic albums)? Is this 60th birthday issue to be an
album?
And I am very curious as to what these 1937 & '39 Donald
adventures are like! So Barks wasn't the first to do Duck adventure
tales -- they were being done 10 years earlier? And I can't imagine what
sort of personality Donald might have in these 30's adventures since I
don't percieve Donald as HAVING a personality until Barks had dealt with
him for 5 or 10 years. Or does he just act like a cantankerous
adolescent which is all he was prior to Barks?
MATTIAS:
No, I'm not copying again from my swipe file in order to be more
"like Barks". I've never tried to do anything more than produce comics
in the same spirit as Barks', not comics that look or feel just like
Barks'. And as time goes on and I hear from the people who can't accept
any Duck comics that don't look like Barks himself has done them, I get
"het up" and want to say, "I'm not Barks. I'm ME. I can only do ROSA
Ducks, not Barks Ducks. Sorry!" ...and after Barks' own attitude, I
realize I don't want to "be Barks" anyhow.
But after the Danish article that said I didn't draw a
"recognizable" Donald, I decided I needed to relearn some Duck
proportions, and since I prefer Barks' Ducks to any other, I must
reteach myself using my Barks clip-file. I believe I'd been "humanizing"
my Ducks too much -- I wasn't stooping them over enough or giving them
big enough rear ends, among other problems.
This "long" Donald Duck adventure from 1939 is to be in the 60th
Birthday issue. AND the Donald vs. Gladstone story you mentioned? AND my
16 pager? Since when does Gladstone publish comics that thick? Since
when does ANYONE these days publish comics that thick, other than
"graphic novels" (comic albums)? Is this 60th birthday issue to be an
album?
And I am very curious as to what these 1937 & '39 Donald
adventures are like! So Barks wasn't the first to do Duck adventure
tales -- they were being done 10 years earlier? And I can't imagine what
sort of personality Donald might have in these 30's adventures since I
don't percieve Donald as HAVING a personality until Barks had dealt with
him for 5 or 10 years. Or does he just act like a cantankerous
adolescent which is all he was prior to Barks?
MATTIAS:
No, I'm not copying again from my swipe file in order to be more
"like Barks". I've never tried to do anything more than produce comics
in the same spirit as Barks', not comics that look or feel just like
Barks'. And as time goes on and I hear from the people who can't accept
any Duck comics that don't look like Barks himself has done them, I get
"het up" and want to say, "I'm not Barks. I'm ME. I can only do ROSA
Ducks, not Barks Ducks. Sorry!" ...and after Barks' own attitude, I
realize I don't want to "be Barks" anyhow.
But after the Danish article that said I didn't draw a
"recognizable" Donald, I decided I needed to relearn some Duck
proportions, and since I prefer Barks' Ducks to any other, I must
reteach myself using my Barks clip-file. I believe I'd been "humanizing"
my Ducks too much -- I wasn't stooping them over enough or giving them
big enough rear ends, among other problems.
Mattias Hallin
Don-ducks
Message 60 -
1993-12-15 at 10:39:45
Don:
I hope you didn't get me wrong, and think I tried to say that I think you
ought to copy Barks' art, or any one else's for that matter. I didn't. As i
wrote in a letter to you more'n a year ago, ONE of many things I appreciate
very much about your duck comics, is that they are so much your own - that you
put so much creative energy into them, and also that there seems to be a
constant striving in your work to integrate characters, story-line, dialogue
and art into a whole. You might feel that you fall short of this goal, and you
might not; but that doesn't lessen the impression I, as a reader, gets: that
you are creating something with not so little artistic value, because it is, or
seems to me to be, at the same time original AND aware of tradition, the result
of conscious and thoroughly thought through efforts with a very personal
"Rosaesque" feel to it. Even if it's only intended as ephemereal escapist
entertainment.
Mattias
I hope you didn't get me wrong, and think I tried to say that I think you
ought to copy Barks' art, or any one else's for that matter. I didn't. As i
wrote in a letter to you more'n a year ago, ONE of many things I appreciate
very much about your duck comics, is that they are so much your own - that you
put so much creative energy into them, and also that there seems to be a
constant striving in your work to integrate characters, story-line, dialogue
and art into a whole. You might feel that you fall short of this goal, and you
might not; but that doesn't lessen the impression I, as a reader, gets: that
you are creating something with not so little artistic value, because it is, or
seems to me to be, at the same time original AND aware of tradition, the result
of conscious and thoroughly thought through efforts with a very personal
"Rosaesque" feel to it. Even if it's only intended as ephemereal escapist
entertainment.
Mattias