From: "Stefan Persson" <reimersholme at hotmail.com>
> In the original too? Don't the creators know that Barks is still alive?
And think that the gag was originally written in 1974! Really odd.
--
Sprea
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Topic: 200007
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Francesco Spreafico
Disappointment because of ZP
Message 61 -
2000-07-22 at 17:12:57
Fernando Ventura
Disappointment because of ZP
Message 62 -
2000-07-22 at 21:17:43
There are any Scan on the Net with this image? It is so disrespectible!
Fernando Ventura!
"...at page 67 there is a sort of fan drawing from Walt
Simonson about comics collectors.. the gag is OK (it is about
Scrooge spending all his money to buy himself Barksian comic
books) but it is what Donald says to his nephews that is of a
very bad taste:
Donald and nephews are going to US money bin, and while walking
HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
was is also in bold fonts! "
Fernando Ventura!
"...at page 67 there is a sort of fan drawing from Walt
Simonson about comics collectors.. the gag is OK (it is about
Scrooge spending all his money to buy himself Barksian comic
books) but it is what Donald says to his nephews that is of a
very bad taste:
Donald and nephews are going to US money bin, and while walking
HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
was is also in bold fonts! "
Fabio Blanco
Disappointment because of ZP
Message 63 -
2000-07-23 at 04:51:03
Luca Boschi wrote:
>Two: the gag was written in a period in which Carl Barks was supposed not
to
>write or draw Duck stories anymore, for this reason HDL talks about him as
>if he were far in the time like an Andersen, or a Perrault... The reality
>and the perspective that now we know is very different from the 70es, when
>Barks' name was not so popular.
That's exactly I did think about this gag based in the last two messages. I
imagine that the artist was in the cinic and bitter mood of somebody seeing
the oblivion about a great creator like Barks. The error, I think, is from
Zio Paperone for publish something out of his context.
FABIO.
>Two: the gag was written in a period in which Carl Barks was supposed not
to
>write or draw Duck stories anymore, for this reason HDL talks about him as
>if he were far in the time like an Andersen, or a Perrault... The reality
>and the perspective that now we know is very different from the 70es, when
>Barks' name was not so popular.
That's exactly I did think about this gag based in the last two messages. I
imagine that the artist was in the cinic and bitter mood of somebody seeing
the oblivion about a great creator like Barks. The error, I think, is from
Zio Paperone for publish something out of his context.
FABIO.
Luca Boschi
R: Disappointment because of ZP
Message 64 -
2000-07-23 at 16:46:31
Hi, all!
> Luca Boschi wrote:
>
>>Two: the gag was written in a period in which Carl Barks was supposed not
> to
>>write or draw Duck stories anymore, for this reason HDL talks about him as
>>if he were far in the time like an Andersen, or a Perrault... The reality
>>and the perspective that now we know is very different from the 70es, when
>>Barks' name was not so popular.
>
> That's exactly I did think about this gag based in the last two messages. I
> imagine that the artist was in the cinic and bitter mood of somebody seeing
> the oblivion about a great creator like Barks. The error, I think, is from
> Zio Paperone for publish something out of his context.
> FABIO.
>
Maybe you're right. For this reason, I think it should be interesting if
some of you, if you want, write something about this matter, also for
explaining the "different moods". Surely, Lidia shall publish your replies
in the letter colums of ZP.
Ciao!
Luca
> Luca Boschi wrote:
>
>>Two: the gag was written in a period in which Carl Barks was supposed not
> to
>>write or draw Duck stories anymore, for this reason HDL talks about him as
>>if he were far in the time like an Andersen, or a Perrault... The reality
>>and the perspective that now we know is very different from the 70es, when
>>Barks' name was not so popular.
>
> That's exactly I did think about this gag based in the last two messages. I
> imagine that the artist was in the cinic and bitter mood of somebody seeing
> the oblivion about a great creator like Barks. The error, I think, is from
> Zio Paperone for publish something out of his context.
> FABIO.
>
Maybe you're right. For this reason, I think it should be interesting if
some of you, if you want, write something about this matter, also for
explaining the "different moods". Surely, Lidia shall publish your replies
in the letter colums of ZP.
Ciao!
Luca
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
Libraries with Duck stories
Message 65 -
2000-07-24 at 01:20:31
Most libraries here in the states have a small selection of "trade
paperback" books that generally reprint popular newspaper strips (those
of you familiar with the Peanuts and Garfield books know what I'm
speaking of). While doing research for a school project I went to the
large public library in downtown Cincinnati OH and discovered a couple of
the Gladstone Comic Albums. I've never seen any actual comic books at
any library. They simply are too frail, and there isn't enough interest
in them (in the USA) to warrant any library spending the valuable, and
scarce, funds on them.
Rodney Bowcock
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paperback" books that generally reprint popular newspaper strips (those
of you familiar with the Peanuts and Garfield books know what I'm
speaking of). While doing research for a school project I went to the
large public library in downtown Cincinnati OH and discovered a couple of
the Gladstone Comic Albums. I've never seen any actual comic books at
any library. They simply are too frail, and there isn't enough interest
in them (in the USA) to warrant any library spending the valuable, and
scarce, funds on them.
Rodney Bowcock
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Eta Beta
Botto & Beta proudly present... (somewhat OT)
Message 66 -
2000-07-24 at 11:48:18
Hello good folks,
It wasn't very long ago, when friend Armando Botto mentioned he
was collecting cover images around the net, and dropped a coupla
interesting addresses... I gave that a try, and started piling
up cover images myself... we also exchanged some, and Armando
commented it was like trading cards... and the idea of collecting
them in an album immediately struck me...
That's how "Disney Covers Extravaganza" was born, and quite a few
people appreciated it, and contributed to it, too, so the site is
currently hosting over a thousand Disney cover images, plus links
to other covers sites, and it's still growing.
But there are more covers in heaven and earth, Horace, than all our
Disney philosophers can dream of... or something like that... :-)
So, a "side effect" of collecting covers can now be appreciated
(hopefully) as
FROM COVER TO COVER (with nothing inbetween) at
http://eega.supereva.it/fromto.html
And, just to get back a bit on-topic, there's good news for my
Disney sites, too... it should be a matter of a few weeks more for
"Last Balaboo" to get its long due update... keep the faith :-)
Cheers
Eta Beta
It wasn't very long ago, when friend Armando Botto mentioned he
was collecting cover images around the net, and dropped a coupla
interesting addresses... I gave that a try, and started piling
up cover images myself... we also exchanged some, and Armando
commented it was like trading cards... and the idea of collecting
them in an album immediately struck me...
That's how "Disney Covers Extravaganza" was born, and quite a few
people appreciated it, and contributed to it, too, so the site is
currently hosting over a thousand Disney cover images, plus links
to other covers sites, and it's still growing.
But there are more covers in heaven and earth, Horace, than all our
Disney philosophers can dream of... or something like that... :-)
So, a "side effect" of collecting covers can now be appreciated
(hopefully) as
FROM COVER TO COVER (with nothing inbetween) at
http://eega.supereva.it/fromto.html
And, just to get back a bit on-topic, there's good news for my
Disney sites, too... it should be a matter of a few weeks more for
"Last Balaboo" to get its long due update... keep the faith :-)
Cheers
Eta Beta
Paolo Castagno
Botto & Beta proudly present... (somewhat OT)
Message 67 -
2000-07-24 at 22:15:19
Eta Beta wrote:
> So, a "side effect" of collecting covers can now be
> appreciated (hopefully) as
>
> FROM COVER TO COVER (with nothing inbetween) at
>
> http://eega.supereva.it/fromto.html
A really great site, expecially for the Popeye section... and
while I'm at this: I noticed that many Disney comics lovers also
like a lot Segar's Popeye... like me.
Just curious: who else of you is interested in Popeye stuff (I
mean the *real* Popeye, the one from Segar)?
> And, just to get back a bit on-topic, there's good news for my
> Disney sites, too... it should be a matter of a few weeks more for
> "Last Balaboo" to get its long due update... keep the faith :-)
Yep!!!!
- Paolo
--
http://members.xoom.it/inducks mailto:p.castagno at libero.it
"Komme komme farlanda mozambico papero zuruch alifai..."
(uno stregone in I TL 297-A)
> So, a "side effect" of collecting covers can now be
> appreciated (hopefully) as
>
> FROM COVER TO COVER (with nothing inbetween) at
>
> http://eega.supereva.it/fromto.html
A really great site, expecially for the Popeye section... and
while I'm at this: I noticed that many Disney comics lovers also
like a lot Segar's Popeye... like me.
Just curious: who else of you is interested in Popeye stuff (I
mean the *real* Popeye, the one from Segar)?
> And, just to get back a bit on-topic, there's good news for my
> Disney sites, too... it should be a matter of a few weeks more for
> "Last Balaboo" to get its long due update... keep the faith :-)
Yep!!!!
- Paolo
--
http://members.xoom.it/inducks mailto:p.castagno at libero.it
"Komme komme farlanda mozambico papero zuruch alifai..."
(uno stregone in I TL 297-A)
Jan Follak
Indian Disney Comics again
Message 68 -
2000-07-24 at 22:50:55
Gary:
>I've seen no Disney comics from India, of any vintage, (...), so
>this seems to be a subject ripe for exploration.
Check
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/india.html
as a starting point. There you'll find scans of the issue I have.
>I've seen no Disney comics from India, of any vintage, (...), so
>this seems to be a subject ripe for exploration.
Check
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/india.html
as a starting point. There you'll find scans of the issue I have.
Fluks4
[OT] Greetings from California
Message 69 -
2000-07-25 at 05:25:21
This is Harry writing from California, where I just had a
wonderful time at the San Diego comic convention. I'll give a
detailed report later, but let me thank everyone whom I met -
you have all been very kind. Thanks in particular to Michael
Naiman (I think he has been renamed Michael Noman last saturday
8-). And to Dave Rawson for letting me stay at his home at this
very moment.
"See" you all later!
--Harry.
wonderful time at the San Diego comic convention. I'll give a
detailed report later, but let me thank everyone whom I met -
you have all been very kind. Thanks in particular to Michael
Naiman (I think he has been renamed Michael Noman last saturday
8-). And to Dave Rawson for letting me stay at his home at this
very moment.
"See" you all later!
--Harry.
Bhc
DCML digest, Vol 1 #206 - 4 msgs
Message 70 -
2000-07-25 at 23:03:01
Paolo wrote:
>Donald and nephews are going to US money bin, and while walking
>HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
>was is also in bold fonts! Carl **IS** the greatest comic book
>artist of all times, not "was"!!!!!
>
>It really struck me badly. :-(
We American speakers often use the past tense, with emphasis, by
default when asking questions of that nature. I'm not sure why this
is, but rarely is anything really meant by it. Look at it this way:
It would be impossible to convey information on someone who isn't
somewhere within one's present sensory range without that information
being a recollection of some kind. In truth, HDL could only properly
phrase their question in the past tense, since they knew they would
only get their Unca Donald's recollections - his past knowledge - in
reply.
>Donald and nephews are going to US money bin, and while walking
>HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
>was is also in bold fonts! Carl **IS** the greatest comic book
>artist of all times, not "was"!!!!!
>
>It really struck me badly. :-(
We American speakers often use the past tense, with emphasis, by
default when asking questions of that nature. I'm not sure why this
is, but rarely is anything really meant by it. Look at it this way:
It would be impossible to convey information on someone who isn't
somewhere within one's present sensory range without that information
being a recollection of some kind. In truth, HDL could only properly
phrase their question in the past tense, since they knew they would
only get their Unca Donald's recollections - his past knowledge - in
reply.
Søren Krarup Olesen
The fourth nephew (again)
Message 71 -
2000-07-26 at 13:59:42
Hi folks,
I just found a thirteen(?) years old article today, written in Danish
but with a panel clearly showing yet another HDL4:
http://raptus.dk/tmp/hdl4vr.jpg
The panel is probably drawn by Vicar, but that's about all we know. The
article states the issue Anders And & Co. no. 7, 1987 in which the
panel should be in, but this is unfortunately not correct. It also says
that a *reader* found the mistake and contacted the publishers, so I
reckon it must have been printed at some point.
For what it's worth, HDL4 says: "I found this one in the sofa! Laughing
gas! And it's all empty!"
I assume that the story is coded in the range D 7000 to D 9000, but
Vicar drew some 200 stories in that period, so it's a bit hopeless.
Does anyone here remember this story? The HDL4 appearance is BTW not
registered in Inducks.
Søren
I just found a thirteen(?) years old article today, written in Danish
but with a panel clearly showing yet another HDL4:
http://raptus.dk/tmp/hdl4vr.jpg
The panel is probably drawn by Vicar, but that's about all we know. The
article states the issue Anders And & Co. no. 7, 1987 in which the
panel should be in, but this is unfortunately not correct. It also says
that a *reader* found the mistake and contacted the publishers, so I
reckon it must have been printed at some point.
For what it's worth, HDL4 says: "I found this one in the sofa! Laughing
gas! And it's all empty!"
I assume that the story is coded in the range D 7000 to D 9000, but
Vicar drew some 200 stories in that period, so it's a bit hopeless.
Does anyone here remember this story? The HDL4 appearance is BTW not
registered in Inducks.
Søren
Søren Krarup Olesen
The fourth nephew (again and again)
Message 72 -
2000-07-26 at 14:58:11
Sorry folks.
Forget about my previous mail. The panel is from D 95010 but the
article had a typo; it should have been AA84-07 instead of AA87-07,
that contains D 7202 with a HDL4 that has been known for a long time.
Søren
Forget about my previous mail. The panel is from D 95010 but the
article had a typo; it should have been AA84-07 instead of AA87-07,
that contains D 7202 with a HDL4 that has been known for a long time.
Søren
Janne Heino
Rosa comics in Finland !!
Message 73 -
2000-07-26 at 18:12:36
Hi!
So the three caballeros rides again story will be published here at Finland with the special cover. So I'm asking now: anybody who wants to get a copy of it should mail me at least before the week #39 or if possible sooner! let me know which issues would you want (the story is in 3 parts, #40-42, the cover will be propably in the first one) so i can buy the needed amount of copies when they're at the shops.
Janne Heino
j.heino at pp2.inet.fi
So the three caballeros rides again story will be published here at Finland with the special cover. So I'm asking now: anybody who wants to get a copy of it should mail me at least before the week #39 or if possible sooner! let me know which issues would you want (the story is in 3 parts, #40-42, the cover will be propably in the first one) so i can buy the needed amount of copies when they're at the shops.
Janne Heino
j.heino at pp2.inet.fi
Eric Chun
Dreidreizehn: News
Message 74 -
2000-07-27 at 02:02:02
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:25:13 +0200 (CEST)
We just received a message from Carl Barks, concerning his state of health,
which is very, very bad. This document will be online on our homepage on
July 27, 11a.m. (MEZ).
www.dreidreizehn.de
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Tryg Helseth
Past tense in passing
Message 75 -
2000-07-27 at 03:47:23
At 12:00 PM 7/26/00 +0200, bhc at primenet.com wrote:
>Paolo wrote:
>
>>HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
>>was is also in bold fonts! Carl **IS** the greatest comic book
>>artist of all times, not "was"!!!!!
>
>We American speakers often use the past tense, with emphasis, by
>default when asking questions of that nature. I'm not sure why this
BHC:
I agree. It reminds me of how the old Lone Ranger episodes ended where after he rode off someone would ask, "Who WAS that masked man?" He is still alive and presumably masked, but is no longer present on the scene.
Tryg
>Paolo wrote:
>
>>HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
>>was is also in bold fonts! Carl **IS** the greatest comic book
>>artist of all times, not "was"!!!!!
>
>We American speakers often use the past tense, with emphasis, by
>default when asking questions of that nature. I'm not sure why this
BHC:
I agree. It reminds me of how the old Lone Ranger episodes ended where after he rode off someone would ask, "Who WAS that masked man?" He is still alive and presumably masked, but is no longer present on the scene.
Tryg