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Olaf Solstrand
Mark Baker-Wright:
> You need to give more substantiating evidence for a claim like that,
> which strikes me as absurd.

OK, I'll translate some of the article.

"Scrooge goes to Africa with among others Donald's mother in 1909, and they
don't see each other until 27 years later, which is in 1936. At that time
Donald and his sister Della (later mother to the kids) born. It's obvious
that Della and Donald is the same age. The next time Donald sees his uncle
is in 1947, at that time the kids are born and moved in with him. We don't
know Donald's, Della's or the kids' age, but Donald says in 1947: "I have
only seen him [Scrooge] once... when I was YOUNGER than you are now!" Let's
say Donald and Della are twins and that Huey, Dewey and Louie were the same
age in 1947 as Donald were in 1936, then Della must have been 11 years old
when giving birth to Huey, Dewey and Louie... ! ! !"

Don Rosa:
> And you can tell that to the writer(s) of that webpage for me.

Oh, I did that after talking to you about it last summer. After that, they
added a link on the bottom of the page, leading to "Don Rosa's answer" with
comments from the page author.

The answer to that mail I forwarded from you, Don, is that it's not
possible, you can't be telling the truth, it is all a conspiracy.

[back to quote and translate mode.]

"According to Don Rosa's answer Huey, Dewey and Louie should have been born
in 1950, but the kids appear already October 17th 1937! This strip is drawn
by reporter Taliaferro, and although one of course can discuss his value as
a source, there can be no doubt the kids existed in 1937. How else could he
have known of their existance? Had a vision? Or travelled into time, seen
the kids, gone back to 1937 to draw them in the strip? Not very likely!

Let's instead evaluate the two errors mentioned in Don Rosa's answer.
Whether the original American and original text said 23 years instead of 27
years, I haven't been able to find out, as I haven't got hold of the
American text. But as this will be explored sooner or later, the
conspirators has most likely not dared to lie about this. Actually 23 years
gives more meaning than 27 years, as Della in that case has been appr. 15
years old. According to the matemathical uncertainties mentioned in the
original article, that's something between 13? and 16? years old. In this
age it's natural that Della was technically mature enough to have a baby,
but it's still a young age, and she could e.g. not be married. How 23 can
be translated to 27 is still a mystery to me, though. Were the translator a
dyslectic and dyscalculic in practice?

The second error mentioned is simply impossible! Part because the kids
showed up already in 1937, part because I find it unlikely that Don Rosa
has made a mistake! So what's the explanation of the words of his e-mail?
We have to assume one of three possibilities.

1. Disney has at some time forced Don Rosa to hide Della's young age at the
point of pregnancy. Although Don Rosa never has silenced and absolutely not
told lies in his stories, there can be no doubt he has had lots of pressure
on hiding Della's teenage pregnancy. E.g. a public secret among donaldists
is that Don Rosa already has written a story about the father of HDL and
his meeting with Della. But they refuse to publish this story! And why?
Naturally because Egmont tries to hide Della's pregnancy!"

The two other points have been censored by the page administrator later
when they understood they were insulting people with them. E.g. one of the
possible explanations were that _I_ were making the entire story up and
that I had not really talked to Don Rosa about this - which seemed very
likely since I work for Egmont, which along with Disney are the really bad
guys doing everything to hide this teenage pregnancy. Also, as it's
*impossible* that Don Rosa makes a mistake, of course he would never admit
such a thing...

So: I *have* told the people running that web page your views on this, Don.
As a result of this, I was spotted, insulted and laughed at. Naturally, I
hope you therefor have full understanding that I won't contact them AGAIN.

Olaf
Mickey
> "According to Don Rosa's answer Huey, Dewey and Louie should have been
born in 1950, but the kids appear already >October 17th 1937!

What an absurdity. It's clear that only Barks' datation is worth to be
considered in Rosa's duck universe, it's everything sphased about previous
comics with the same characters...

Mickey
Olaf Solstrand
Me:

> "According to Don Rosa's answer Huey, Dewey and Louie should have been
> born in 1950, but the kids appear already October 17th 1937!

Oops. My typo. That was supposed to be "1940". Not 1950.
Don Rosa
From: Mickey (mickey at iol.it)
>>>>>In the Italian one is "23 years"! The opposite of "32" ^_^;;
But how can it be possible? All these different "translations"? O_o

Why do you have "translations" in quotes? And what's the significance of
"32"? Are you trying to make an obscure point?
"All these different translations" are an obvious fact. Many different
local editors, many different local translators, all with different opinions
or errors.

>>>If I can argue, you also drew him as he was that young. He didn't even
speak...

I didn't want him to speak as that would have spoiled the humor. Should he
have been saying "Here I come, Unca Scrooge, walking over to give you a
surprise kick in the ass"? I think not.
Don Rosa
From: andrea salimbeti (andrea.salimbeti at tin.it)
Subject: Re: DCML Digest Issue 32
>>>The Barks/Don Rosa universe with Donald and his nephews/relatives
take place during the 1950-1953 (As confirmed by Don Rosa )

Now, correct yourself and make sure you mean to say that only in the "Don
Rosa Universe with Donald and his Nephews/relatives takes place during
1950-53" (or thereabouts), or there are people you're going to incense with
rage. I base my reality on my personal interpretation of Barks' works, but
my reality is NOT intended to be an exact duplicate of Barks' nor is it the
reality that will be seen in any other writer's Duckworks. (And I like it
like that! I have my own lil' Universe.)
Klartekst
In my humble opinion 2D animation has a direct charm that
computer-generated images can never match. Some of my
favorite Disney features are from the period when they
copied the animators' pencil drawings directly onto the
cells ("101 Dalmations", "The Sword in the Stone", "The
Jungle Book", "The Aristocats", "Bernhard and Bianca"). Why
do these movies look so lively and fresh? Because what you
see on the screen is exactly what the animators drew on
their sheets of paper, without any cleaning-up or
toning-down. The artists communicate directly with the
audience. And since these animators were all fantastic
artists, the result is ... well, watch any of these movies
again and see for yourself.

Nils Smeby
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