Me:
>> (I wrote an article for the Romano Scarpa book which the editor asked
>> me to translate into English afterwards so that it could be used by
>> those publishers which does not understand Norwegian, as an example
>> she mentioned Poland).
Lars:
> What did you write about?
Me again:
Every book in this series (uhm, as far as I know, I guess it will be a
whole different issue when Rosa book or Barks book number two and three
comes) will contain an article on artist characteristics, pointing out how
to recognize e.g. a Scarpa story from others. I was asked to write these
for Rosa and Scarpa.
Olaf the Blue
Author
Topic: 200403
(171 messages)
Olaf Solstrand
Hall of Fame
Message 76 -
2004-03-17 at 17:21:49
Olaf Solstrand
The Age and Birth of Gyro Gearloose
Message 77 -
2004-03-17 at 17:25:45
Me:
>> What if Gyro really _IS_ 55? [...] OK, we would then have to disregard
>> all modern stories showing Gyro dating girls/women _my_ age (OK, a
>> little older, I'm 21).
Lars:
> Why would one part of a couple have to have approximately the same age
> as the other?
Me again:
Well, naturally one doesn't _have_ to. But... I always get the impression
from these stories that it would have been more obvious if Gyro had been
thirty years older than his dates. Also... My personal opinion is that it
doesn't seem very in character for Gyro to be what some would refer to as
an old pig.
Olaf the Blue
>> What if Gyro really _IS_ 55? [...] OK, we would then have to disregard
>> all modern stories showing Gyro dating girls/women _my_ age (OK, a
>> little older, I'm 21).
Lars:
> Why would one part of a couple have to have approximately the same age
> as the other?
Me again:
Well, naturally one doesn't _have_ to. But... I always get the impression
from these stories that it would have been more obvious if Gyro had been
thirty years older than his dates. Also... My personal opinion is that it
doesn't seem very in character for Gyro to be what some would refer to as
an old pig.
Olaf the Blue
Olaf Solstrand
Paperolimpiadi
Message 78 -
2004-03-17 at 17:54:44
Lars:
> If I remember correctly, Romano Scarpa's "Paperolimpiadi" featured an
> invention by Gyro Gearloose: A TV camera which could tape what happened
> a few hours into the future.
>
> Am I correct? And if I am: Does anybody remember more story details?
You remember correctly.
HUUUUUGE SPOILER COMING UP!!!
The vital ingredient for this camera were a magical blue powder. When Kim
Don-Ling was a little boy in South Korea, a meteor landed in Mae-Wang's
soup kettle. Strange light appeared, and after a while the kettle were full
of blue powder. The next day - or were it some days later - Kim went to his
regular daily date by the bamboo fence, meeting with Chen Dai-Lem. As she
was a North Korean, they weren't allowed to cross the borders, but they
used to talk through the bamboo fence. This day, Kim brought a gift for
Chen - a jade bracelet his mother got when she was a girl. However, when he
should throw the bracelet over the fence, it got stuck. He climbed up to
get it down, and fell down on the North side. Kim and Chen met in person
for the first time in their lives... And it was the happiest day ever for
both of them. However, after some hours some guards were patrolling, and
Kim suddenly realized he had to hurry back before anyone figured out he had
been in North. He hurried to much he cut his leg on the bamboo fence.
Afraid to be discovered by the South guards, he went back to Mae-Wang, the
only safe hideout he could think of. She told him the blue powder had
turned out to have healing abilities; she put it on Kim's leg, and the scar
was healed. Kim got a whole bag of it for personal use, and brought it when
his family immigrated to USA.
Many years later, when Kim was a paper boy in Duckburg, Huey, Dewey and
Louie were with him on his paper route, and Louie tripped in a root and got
a blue eye. Kim healed it with the blue powder. He then told them the story
of how he got it, and they asked for a sample to give to a good friend -
Gyro - for analysis. At this time, Gyro were working on making lenses for
Scrooge's TV cameras for using in the Seoul summer olympics, and he was
running short on the main ingredient - a blue pyrites. He could see that
this powder was somehow similar to the pyrites, and tried making a lense
out of it. Only that this lense didn't show what he pointed it towards. It
showed the future. (Gyro also figured out that the powder worked as a
"healing powder" because the body part healed were sent into the future
when it normally would have healed by itself.)
As to what happened to the camera later: Scrooge decided to use this camera
for showing the olympiad long before it happened, Black Pete stole it,
Mickey got it back, and when Scrooge and company visited Mae-Wang in South
Korea to meet with some aliens trying to steal the olympic medals, she
poured some acid on it to destroy it because she thought the world wasn't
ready for it. The camera was destroyed, but not before it had helped Kim
save Chen Dai-Lem's life.
Olaf the Blue
> If I remember correctly, Romano Scarpa's "Paperolimpiadi" featured an
> invention by Gyro Gearloose: A TV camera which could tape what happened
> a few hours into the future.
>
> Am I correct? And if I am: Does anybody remember more story details?
You remember correctly.
HUUUUUGE SPOILER COMING UP!!!
The vital ingredient for this camera were a magical blue powder. When Kim
Don-Ling was a little boy in South Korea, a meteor landed in Mae-Wang's
soup kettle. Strange light appeared, and after a while the kettle were full
of blue powder. The next day - or were it some days later - Kim went to his
regular daily date by the bamboo fence, meeting with Chen Dai-Lem. As she
was a North Korean, they weren't allowed to cross the borders, but they
used to talk through the bamboo fence. This day, Kim brought a gift for
Chen - a jade bracelet his mother got when she was a girl. However, when he
should throw the bracelet over the fence, it got stuck. He climbed up to
get it down, and fell down on the North side. Kim and Chen met in person
for the first time in their lives... And it was the happiest day ever for
both of them. However, after some hours some guards were patrolling, and
Kim suddenly realized he had to hurry back before anyone figured out he had
been in North. He hurried to much he cut his leg on the bamboo fence.
Afraid to be discovered by the South guards, he went back to Mae-Wang, the
only safe hideout he could think of. She told him the blue powder had
turned out to have healing abilities; she put it on Kim's leg, and the scar
was healed. Kim got a whole bag of it for personal use, and brought it when
his family immigrated to USA.
Many years later, when Kim was a paper boy in Duckburg, Huey, Dewey and
Louie were with him on his paper route, and Louie tripped in a root and got
a blue eye. Kim healed it with the blue powder. He then told them the story
of how he got it, and they asked for a sample to give to a good friend -
Gyro - for analysis. At this time, Gyro were working on making lenses for
Scrooge's TV cameras for using in the Seoul summer olympics, and he was
running short on the main ingredient - a blue pyrites. He could see that
this powder was somehow similar to the pyrites, and tried making a lense
out of it. Only that this lense didn't show what he pointed it towards. It
showed the future. (Gyro also figured out that the powder worked as a
"healing powder" because the body part healed were sent into the future
when it normally would have healed by itself.)
As to what happened to the camera later: Scrooge decided to use this camera
for showing the olympiad long before it happened, Black Pete stole it,
Mickey got it back, and when Scrooge and company visited Mae-Wang in South
Korea to meet with some aliens trying to steal the olympic medals, she
poured some acid on it to destroy it because she thought the world wasn't
ready for it. The camera was destroyed, but not before it had helped Kim
save Chen Dai-Lem's life.
Olaf the Blue
Nat Chrenshaw
The Center of the Earth
Message 79 -
2004-03-17 at 18:22:15
I just read (please correct me if I'm wrong...) a message posted a long time ago here on the board by Don, saying:
> I'm doing a story that I've had in my head ever since 1959 when I saw > "Journey to the Center of the Earth". I've done versions of this
> adventure with my own characters as long ago as 1960 (with worldwide > distribution being somewhat less than I enjoy currently -- in those days > it was distributed throughout my bedroom with a total readership of
> one). In fact I hafta go to the University of Louisville to do research --
> among other scientific problems I need to find sensible solutions to are > how the Ducks can travel through the molten outer core, withstand the > heat and (more significantly) the air pressure which should squash
> them to puree... and, also, why the #$&%* they want to be down
> there.
I'm sorry if I've missed some further messages about this subject, but did you ever continue on this great idea?
I was thinking... when the ducks get to the place (not getting into the subject of HOW...), how would you think the world meeting them would look like?
The general idea seems to be an ancient world (like Robert E. Howards 'Pellucidar', or Arthur C Doyles 'Lost World'), and that would be a kind of follow up to the Forbidden Valley. Not that it's really the same place becouse the Forbidden Valley isn't located in the very center of the earth, but could there be some kind of connection between them?
And by the way, congratulations to Don for a great performance of skill and mastery of art in the letter from home, the castles kind of "gloomy" enviroment puts a great feel to the story and the ending leaves you in a great mood.
H?strusk och gr? moln - k?p en resa till solen p? Yahoo! Resor
> I'm doing a story that I've had in my head ever since 1959 when I saw > "Journey to the Center of the Earth". I've done versions of this
> adventure with my own characters as long ago as 1960 (with worldwide > distribution being somewhat less than I enjoy currently -- in those days > it was distributed throughout my bedroom with a total readership of
> one). In fact I hafta go to the University of Louisville to do research --
> among other scientific problems I need to find sensible solutions to are > how the Ducks can travel through the molten outer core, withstand the > heat and (more significantly) the air pressure which should squash
> them to puree... and, also, why the #$&%* they want to be down
> there.
I'm sorry if I've missed some further messages about this subject, but did you ever continue on this great idea?
I was thinking... when the ducks get to the place (not getting into the subject of HOW...), how would you think the world meeting them would look like?
The general idea seems to be an ancient world (like Robert E. Howards 'Pellucidar', or Arthur C Doyles 'Lost World'), and that would be a kind of follow up to the Forbidden Valley. Not that it's really the same place becouse the Forbidden Valley isn't located in the very center of the earth, but could there be some kind of connection between them?
And by the way, congratulations to Don for a great performance of skill and mastery of art in the letter from home, the castles kind of "gloomy" enviroment puts a great feel to the story and the ending leaves you in a great mood.
H?strusk och gr? moln - k?p en resa till solen p? Yahoo! Resor
Simo Malinen
Old castle's new secrets
Message 80 -
2004-03-17 at 18:55:50
At the last week I set my words too strongly when I critisized the
latest Don Rosa story "old castle's new secret / letter from home".
If some fool walls looked a bit odd - who cares?
All walls are just a hardly existing glimpse if compared to the
major fact that the Don Rosa story is in there, with all amazing
turns and twists around the true historical facts and the written
history of the duck family.
The story might be more sentimental than usual, but it is still
a beautiful story.
- Simo
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latest Don Rosa story "old castle's new secret / letter from home".
If some fool walls looked a bit odd - who cares?
All walls are just a hardly existing glimpse if compared to the
major fact that the Don Rosa story is in there, with all amazing
turns and twists around the true historical facts and the written
history of the duck family.
The story might be more sentimental than usual, but it is still
a beautiful story.
- Simo
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Francesco Spreafico
Paperolimpiadi
Message 81 -
2004-03-17 at 21:29:00
Olaf Solstrand wrote:
> HUUUUUGE SPOILER COMING UP!!!
>
>
>
Great summary! Let me add a couple of lesser things:
> when Scrooge and company visited Mae-Wang in
> South Korea to meet with some aliens
Those aliens had appeared before in s Scarpa story, a story that happened to
be one of my favourites when I was a kid, so I jumped on my chair when I
found them at the end of that chapter of Paperolimpiadi, way back in 1988!
The story was "Paperobot contro i Paperoidi" (IS TL 1317-A)
> The camera was destroyed, but not before it had
> helped Kim save Chen Dai-Lem's life.
And that was a wonderful scene, really breathtaking!
Francesco
[http://www.dimensionedelta.net]
> HUUUUUGE SPOILER COMING UP!!!
>
>
>
Great summary! Let me add a couple of lesser things:
> when Scrooge and company visited Mae-Wang in
> South Korea to meet with some aliens
Those aliens had appeared before in s Scarpa story, a story that happened to
be one of my favourites when I was a kid, so I jumped on my chair when I
found them at the end of that chapter of Paperolimpiadi, way back in 1988!
The story was "Paperobot contro i Paperoidi" (IS TL 1317-A)
> The camera was destroyed, but not before it had
> helped Kim save Chen Dai-Lem's life.
And that was a wonderful scene, really breathtaking!
Francesco
[http://www.dimensionedelta.net]
Lars Jensen
OT: No more corrections! (For a moment...)
Message 82 -
2004-03-17 at 22:37:36
Don Rosa wrote:
> Bush has no henchmen. He *is* a henchman of somebody else -- clearly
> *he's* not the "brains" of that operation. Lord god I hope not.
Interior, a hall inside a secret military base. Large windows show us
we're on the bottom of the ocean. With one chop of his hand, Superman is
splitting a huge powerful-looking laser cannon in half. Wonder Woman,
Batman, Flash and the other members of the Justice League stand behind
him, looking on.
Superman: That's the last of the cannons! We've *won*!
A shadowy figure appears in a doorway, facing the League.
Figure: As usual, you misunderestimate me, Superman!
The figure steps into the light, and we now see it's George W. Bush.
Bush: In spite of your efforts, you've failed! While you guys were busy
battlin' those laser cannons, dozens of nukelar-powered Amazos were
activated by mah assistant!
Every member of the League turn their heads to look at a bald-headed guy
standing next to a vending machine, eating a donut. The guy looks back
at the League for a second with an empty facial expression, then slaps
his face in frustration. He clearly forgot to activate those Amazos.
Homer Simpson: D'oh!
As the Flash begins moving towards Simpson, the latter begins running
towards a lever at the other side of the room.
Simpson: Must... reach... activation... lever! Must... outrun... the
Fastest... Man... Alive!
and so on and so on...
(Apologies to any Republicans out there for this off-topic posting, but
the temptation was too great.)
Lars
> Bush has no henchmen. He *is* a henchman of somebody else -- clearly
> *he's* not the "brains" of that operation. Lord god I hope not.
Interior, a hall inside a secret military base. Large windows show us
we're on the bottom of the ocean. With one chop of his hand, Superman is
splitting a huge powerful-looking laser cannon in half. Wonder Woman,
Batman, Flash and the other members of the Justice League stand behind
him, looking on.
Superman: That's the last of the cannons! We've *won*!
A shadowy figure appears in a doorway, facing the League.
Figure: As usual, you misunderestimate me, Superman!
The figure steps into the light, and we now see it's George W. Bush.
Bush: In spite of your efforts, you've failed! While you guys were busy
battlin' those laser cannons, dozens of nukelar-powered Amazos were
activated by mah assistant!
Every member of the League turn their heads to look at a bald-headed guy
standing next to a vending machine, eating a donut. The guy looks back
at the League for a second with an empty facial expression, then slaps
his face in frustration. He clearly forgot to activate those Amazos.
Homer Simpson: D'oh!
As the Flash begins moving towards Simpson, the latter begins running
towards a lever at the other side of the room.
Simpson: Must... reach... activation... lever! Must... outrun... the
Fastest... Man... Alive!
and so on and so on...
(Apologies to any Republicans out there for this off-topic posting, but
the temptation was too great.)
Lars
Rich Bellacera
The Paperoidi (was: Paperolimpiadi)
Message 83 -
2004-03-17 at 23:07:18
How often have Scarpa's alien ducks, the Paperoidi (Zilia, Ducklien, Galien, Sock
& Gonz), appeared in comic stories?
The INDUCKS only lists two 2-part stories for them.
I TL 1317-A Storie stellari: Paperobot contro i Paperoidi - Feb 22, 1981
I TL 1318-A Storie stellari: Paperobot contro i Paperoidi - Mar 1, 1981
I TL 1710-A Paperolimpiadi - Tutti a Seul - Sep 4, 1988
I TL 1711-A Paperolimpiadi - La minaccia dei Paperoidi - Sep 11, 1988
Are there more?
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
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& Gonz), appeared in comic stories?
The INDUCKS only lists two 2-part stories for them.
I TL 1317-A Storie stellari: Paperobot contro i Paperoidi - Feb 22, 1981
I TL 1318-A Storie stellari: Paperobot contro i Paperoidi - Mar 1, 1981
I TL 1710-A Paperolimpiadi - Tutti a Seul - Sep 4, 1988
I TL 1711-A Paperolimpiadi - La minaccia dei Paperoidi - Sep 11, 1988
Are there more?
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
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SRoweCanoe
The Age and Birth of Gyro Gearloose
Message 84 -
2004-03-18 at 01:26:16
In a message dated 3/17/2004 10:23:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,
olaf at andebyonline.com writes:
>My personal opinion is that it
>doesn't seem very in character for Gyro to be what some would refer to as
>an old pig.
gee, i only dated that woman once - and I get to be an old pig???
is this an insult or a compliment?
steven rowe
olaf at andebyonline.com writes:
>My personal opinion is that it
>doesn't seem very in character for Gyro to be what some would refer to as
>an old pig.
gee, i only dated that woman once - and I get to be an old pig???
is this an insult or a compliment?
steven rowe
H.W.Fluks
Old castle's new secrets
Message 85 -
2004-03-18 at 12:37:07
Simo:
> At the last week I set my words too strongly when I critisized the
> latest Don Rosa story "old castle's new secret / letter from home".
>
> If some fool walls looked a bit odd - who cares?
Why did you change your mind? Did you get e-mails in private telling you Not To Criticise The Great Rosa?
I hope not.
Anyway, I don't think your words were too strong.
(I have no opinion on the story myself yet, since I haven't been able to read it yet.)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wat doe ik hier? Wordt mijn Roddelflop gecensureerd?"
> At the last week I set my words too strongly when I critisized the
> latest Don Rosa story "old castle's new secret / letter from home".
>
> If some fool walls looked a bit odd - who cares?
Why did you change your mind? Did you get e-mails in private telling you Not To Criticise The Great Rosa?
I hope not.
Anyway, I don't think your words were too strong.
(I have no opinion on the story myself yet, since I haven't been able to read it yet.)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wat doe ik hier? Wordt mijn Roddelflop gecensureerd?"
Ola Martinsson
Letter from home, is the letter J in the latin alphabet ?
Message 86 -
2004-03-18 at 14:41:49
Very small spoiler warning
The panel in this story where the templars secret code is shown and what
letters they correspond to. In this panel all the letters are shown
except for the J. Since I doubt that Don made an error I assume that the
letter J is not present in the latin alphabet.
Is this correct ?
Ola in a sunny Stockholm, feels like the first day of spring
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The panel in this story where the templars secret code is shown and what
letters they correspond to. In this panel all the letters are shown
except for the J. Since I doubt that Don made an error I assume that the
letter J is not present in the latin alphabet.
Is this correct ?
Ola in a sunny Stockholm, feels like the first day of spring
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DCML Digest Issue 18
Message 87 -
2004-03-18 at 16:05:40
> From: Nat Chrenshaw <natchrenshaw at yahoo.se>
> Subject: The Center of the Earth
> I just read (please correct me if I'm wrong...) a message posted
> a long time ago here on the board by Don, saying:
> > I'm doing a story that I've had in my head ever since 1959 when
> I saw > "Journey to the Center of the Earth".
> I'm sorry if I've missed some further messages about this
> subject, but did you ever continue on this great idea?
You *were* digging through old archives, eh? That was over 10 years ago that
I did that story!
You'll need to go digging again in the back-issue bins to find a copy to
read, but I can at least mention that my depiction of the earth's core was
nothing like the fantasy stories you were wondering of any similarities to.
No lost civilizations, no prehistoric animals, no hollow earths. I depicted
the earth's core according to scientists' best theories -- a solid ball of
metal. The only fantasy was in my Omnisolve(tm) and what it could do. (Well,
I did show a "cameo-appearance of Terry-Firmy which in Barks' story was
obviously relatively near the surface in the earth in the outer mantle, just
because I figured there'd be readers expecting the whole story to be about
the Terries and Firmies and I didn't want to disappoint them altogether.
About the 1959 movie and the prehistoric animals and the discovery of part
of Atlantis -- I love that film! But... when James Mason and Pat Boone find
a portion of downtown Atlantis that "sank into the sea in a volcanic
eruption"... even when I was 8 years old I thought "huh?". A city is
involved in an eruption, sinks into the ground, the sea closes over it, it
sinks to nearly the very center of the planet... and the water never touches
it and the lava magically hardens in a bubble around it... and the pancakes
aren't even disturbed on the cook's griddle in the kiosk? Huh? But anything
seems tolerable when you wrap Bernard Herrmann music all around it. I wish
he could write scores for my stories.
> The general idea seems to be an ancient world (like Robert E.
> Howards 'Pellucidar'
You mean Edgar Rice Burroughs, by Crom.
> Subject: The Center of the Earth
> I just read (please correct me if I'm wrong...) a message posted
> a long time ago here on the board by Don, saying:
> > I'm doing a story that I've had in my head ever since 1959 when
> I saw > "Journey to the Center of the Earth".
> I'm sorry if I've missed some further messages about this
> subject, but did you ever continue on this great idea?
You *were* digging through old archives, eh? That was over 10 years ago that
I did that story!
You'll need to go digging again in the back-issue bins to find a copy to
read, but I can at least mention that my depiction of the earth's core was
nothing like the fantasy stories you were wondering of any similarities to.
No lost civilizations, no prehistoric animals, no hollow earths. I depicted
the earth's core according to scientists' best theories -- a solid ball of
metal. The only fantasy was in my Omnisolve(tm) and what it could do. (Well,
I did show a "cameo-appearance of Terry-Firmy which in Barks' story was
obviously relatively near the surface in the earth in the outer mantle, just
because I figured there'd be readers expecting the whole story to be about
the Terries and Firmies and I didn't want to disappoint them altogether.
About the 1959 movie and the prehistoric animals and the discovery of part
of Atlantis -- I love that film! But... when James Mason and Pat Boone find
a portion of downtown Atlantis that "sank into the sea in a volcanic
eruption"... even when I was 8 years old I thought "huh?". A city is
involved in an eruption, sinks into the ground, the sea closes over it, it
sinks to nearly the very center of the planet... and the water never touches
it and the lava magically hardens in a bubble around it... and the pancakes
aren't even disturbed on the cook's griddle in the kiosk? Huh? But anything
seems tolerable when you wrap Bernard Herrmann music all around it. I wish
he could write scores for my stories.
> The general idea seems to be an ancient world (like Robert E.
> Howards 'Pellucidar'
You mean Edgar Rice Burroughs, by Crom.
Nat Chrenshaw
Mr. Burroughs
Message 88 -
2004-03-18 at 16:34:17
> You mean Edgar Rice Burroughs, by Crom.
@#?%*!
Im ashamed... I really am...
H?strusk och gr? moln - k?p en resa till solen p? Yahoo! Resor
@#?%*!
Im ashamed... I really am...
H?strusk och gr? moln - k?p en resa till solen p? Yahoo! Resor
Nat Chrenshaw
Letter from home, is the letter J in the latin alphabet ?
Message 89 -
2004-03-18 at 16:49:59
> I assume that the
> letter J is not present in the latin alphabet.
On the website http://www.du.edu/~etuttle/classics/latalph.htm i found this:
> The latin alphabet of 23 letters was derived in the 600's BC from the
> Etruscan alphabet of 26 letters, which was in turn derived from the
> archaic Greek alphabet, which came from the Phoenician. The letters > J, U, and W of the modern alphabet were added in medieval times
> century), and did not appear in the classical alphabet, except that J
> and U could be alternative forms for I and V.
After reading a bit more on the site it seems like by writing "medieval times" they mean somewhere around the 11th century, which doesn't make it a bit less confusing...
Could somebody help clear this out...?
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Huh? =)
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> letter J is not present in the latin alphabet.
On the website http://www.du.edu/~etuttle/classics/latalph.htm i found this:
> The latin alphabet of 23 letters was derived in the 600's BC from the
> Etruscan alphabet of 26 letters, which was in turn derived from the
> archaic Greek alphabet, which came from the Phoenician. The letters > J, U, and W of the modern alphabet were added in medieval times
> century), and did not appear in the classical alphabet, except that J
> and U could be alternative forms for I and V.
After reading a bit more on the site it seems like by writing "medieval times" they mean somewhere around the 11th century, which doesn't make it a bit less confusing...
Could somebody help clear this out...?
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Is the letter (from home) J in the latin alphabet ?
Message 90 -
2004-03-18 at 17:02:44
Nat Chrenshaw:
> http://www.du.edu/~etuttle/classics/latalph.htm
> The latin alphabet of 23 letters [..] The
> letters J, U, and W of the modern alphabet were added in
> medieval times, and did not appear in the classical alphabet,
> except that J
> and U could be alternative forms for I and V.
> After reading a bit more on the site it seems like by writing
> "medieval times" they mean somewhere around the 11th century,
> which doesn't make it a bit less confusing...
> Could somebody help clear this out...?
What part is unclear?
The classic Latin alphabet had 23 letters. In writing, I could look like a J, and U could look like a V (depending on the habits and moods of the writers).
In the middle ages = medieval times = 11th century, the writers (who still wrote in a form of Latin) decided to use I and J for different purposes, and likewise U and V. And they decided to add W as a separate letter. So from then on they had 26 letters.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
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> http://www.du.edu/~etuttle/classics/latalph.htm
> The latin alphabet of 23 letters [..] The
> letters J, U, and W of the modern alphabet were added in
> medieval times, and did not appear in the classical alphabet,
> except that J
> and U could be alternative forms for I and V.
> After reading a bit more on the site it seems like by writing
> "medieval times" they mean somewhere around the 11th century,
> which doesn't make it a bit less confusing...
> Could somebody help clear this out...?
What part is unclear?
The classic Latin alphabet had 23 letters. In writing, I could look like a J, and U could look like a V (depending on the habits and moods of the writers).
In the middle ages = medieval times = 11th century, the writers (who still wrote in a form of Latin) decided to use I and J for different purposes, and likewise U and V. And they decided to add W as a separate letter. So from then on they had 26 letters.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"