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Please help me figure out if I'm correct about this or not:

Is 2005 the 75th anniversary for the publication of the very, very first
Disney Comic?

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Olaf Solstrand

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I hope DCML is back online
MW

Don Rosa wrote:
>>>Gottfredson's comics---they were never reprinted anywhere when I was growing up

For those of us that grew up during the 1940's (a dwindling number) and could sometimes afford the 10 cents to buy a WDC&S, we were almost always treated to a Gottfredson story. This was mainly before the Dell symbol was added to the cover. As Don indicates, the later Dell and then the Gold Key and Whitman comics were absent of Gottfredson until reappearing in the 1980's with the Gladstone comics.

For those that may not have seen it, an excellent review by David Gerstein including sample strips of Gottfredson's work is located under Creators reached from the DCML home page. Compilations of Gotttfredson's stories can be found in hard cover albums. "Mickey Mouse In Color" has 8 complete stories and "Mickey Mouse - best comics" has 10 additional stories and 1 repeat of the other book. These books occasionally appear for sale on Ebay. I have also seen them on the Barnes and Noble web site bn.com under out of print/used books under author Gottfredson.
Marvin Winitz

Olaf Solstrand wrote:

> Is 2005 the 75th anniversary for the publication of the very, very
> first Disney Comic?

Yes.

Lars

Dear Mr.Leach,
I came back from my trip to France,Paris.I was going back to my hotel after sight seeing on a subway.I saw a girl holding a paperback book of Don Rosa"s "Life and times Of Scrooge Mc Duck".I saw the inside of the book it reprinted the cover for Uncle Scrooge 285 on the other side it had the sources where Don Rosa got the ideas for the first chapter and it was the same for each chapter not the information but the outline.
I was wondering if Gemstone would do the same thing.When would the LOS book be out the same time Somewhere In Nowhere would be out.Are u and the rest of the Gemstone crew still working on it.I can"t wait till Gemstone prints it in one book.

From,

Adel Khan

Happy New Years to all the members of the list,

Georgios

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In the story oncle picsou et l'infernale machine Zio paperone e l'offesa...defensiva (Cimino/Cavazzano), Scrooge decided one day to build a machine for protecting the money bin; a night the Beagle boys try to enter the money bin and they are stopped by a sort of electric giant, looking like Scrooge, and shrunk at a small dimension with other dignitaries of Duckburg who were trying to annoy Scrooge's plans of living; in the story Picsou et le myst?re pers?cutor Zio paperone e il mistero di persecutor 1967 (good story which begins with the usual theme of a new competitor threatening Scrooge's industrial power (altough here the competitor is just a little seller of apples!) and ending with a paranoia crisis of Scrooge which leads him to a splitted personality : he is used to going out every night wearing a long dark cape (in somewhat the style of the phantom blot) and accomplishes some revenge against the authorities, which are responsable in his opinion of favouring his competitor, leading him to misery; well, a lot of this mayhem around the money bin, all this artillery don't seem to attract against him the population of Duckburg; the people of Duckburg often seem like some silhouettes, they take an astonished look at all this agitation but nobody can really say they play an involvement in the development of the events : Duckburg as i said in a previous comment is not a social world; the only public intervention for cause of mayhem is the intervention of the public force, the intervention of the state government : the cop, the judge; sometimes the justice civil service appears in the old italian stories like an instrument not fair but in the pay of Scrooge for inciting Donald to pay his debts or going with him around the world; but this is not all the times the case and we often see Scrooge getting fear of the authorities and the police (picsou et le billiard au milliards Zio paperone e il billiardi de un milliardo); this latter story is a strange and complex one in which Scrooge is the robber whereas the beagle boys are arrested by the police in lieu of him! This story is also a mix of different influences : the vaudeville of course, but also the film noir : there is indeniably some elements of film noir in it : the night atmosphere, the police, a long and exciting sequence of a theft, a big fight with the beagle boys in their home, by the end of the story.
- Rarely, the people of duckburg play a role in the development of the events and annoy the purpose of Scrooge; this is however the case in the story Picsou parie sur la publicit? percutante Zio paperone e la micropublicita perniciosa 1970 where a mass and noisy advertising by Scrooge cause a destruction of his advertising campaign due to the exasperated people of the city; this criticism of the advertising is also present in two other stories aforementionned in some of my previous comments, in Mickey buddies, in fact : Topolino e la citt? cavia and at a less degree and more symbolicly in astralpipo 9999, both stories of Mickey; however this is rare, very rare in the italian stories, the people of Duckburg are often just shadows crossing other shadows on the pavement of the streets, we don't often pay attention to them, they are in the background and the main characters of Duckburg grab rather our attention with the action, the events; however the rise of a public opinion can be seen in more modern stories : in a story of William Van Horn the people of Duckburg can't stand the amount of chocolate lying down in donald's garden ('l'erreur publique num?ro 1' 'Public ugly number one' 1991), this story is in fact the follow up of the story 'Sac d'embrouille' 'It's in the bag! It's in the bag! 1990 and must be taken as a whole; in the first story 'it's in the bag!' we see donald concerns with his neighbourhood, in the halloween story, donald knock at the door of angry people and is received with very bad feelings (not to mention the problems of donald with his neighbourood like in 'douce nuit' 'Silent night', story not free of cruelty for Donald, i think evidently at the end of this one); in the Freddy Milton/Daan Jippes story called 'lecture honteuse' Twilight man 1979, we see donald trying to hide some unfamous pulp fiction that he can only read secretly due to a character wanting to supress fun entertainment comics (by the way, this story has a pretty good use of the background, i think of the vignette at the beginning of the story where we see Donald looking in background at the meeting under the tent); so, here, in the stories aforementioned, we can see a sort of social world with an emergence of the people of Duckburg.
- Now, i would like to say two words about the representation of danger in Duckburg, and coming from the obsessional villains of Duckburg :the beagle boys seem always on the run in their war against the money bin; one question how can they make it since, due to their numerous arrests, they should be in prison for one thousand years; but, again, with a new story, the cycle starts again at the beginning and the beagle boys are again fighting the indestructible bin; this is the same case for Magica, the purpose are slightly different, Magica is just interested by one precise coin; all that leads to consider the villains in Duckburg like an obsessional repetitive nightmare of Scrooge; the enemies of Scrooge have not the aim of destroy him personally, Duckburg is not an universe of revenge, Flintheart Glomgold, Rockerduck (Flairsou) are not really villains, they just have the purpose to compete with Scrooge on the grounds of economy industry, Magica is only interested by the first coin, the beagle boys by the money, none of this people have a revenge to satisfy against Scrooge personally.
For ending, just a remark about Ludwig Von Drake (Donald Dingue), i think this is still the old difference between american and italian stories but the character of Ludwig Von Drake was really important in the italian stories of the sixties, and if he is less used in the comics nowadays, this is somehow a loss.

DoomaR wrote:
> */I mean who has the legal rights for the comics, is it Disney, the
> original publisher (the one who created it) or the local publisher who
> translated and printed it?/*

Everything is ? Disney and no one else.

> */I was informed that scanning comics is legal after one year of
> publishing it? is this true?/*

No. Scanning might be legal after 75 years, though.

Stefan

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:09:08 +0200, DoomaR <adham_abozaeid at gawab.com> wrote:
> I mean who has the legal rights for the comics, is it Disney, the original
> publisher (the one who created it) or the local publisher who translated and
> printed it?
As I've understood it; Disney is given all the rights, which are
licenced to all publishers.

> I was informed that scanning comics is legal after one year of publishing
> it? is this true?
I'm not aware of a copyright licence to that effect; I don't believe
any is in effect. Therefore, the works in question are subject to full
copyright for several decades.

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