UNDBKB at aol.com wrote:
> One of the French sites that Don gave us:
>
> http://www.bdangouleme.com/actualites/index.ideal?action=consulter&id=787&rub=1&recherche=PICSOU
> <http://www.bdangouleme.com/actualites/index.ideal?action=consulter&id=787&rub=1&recherche=PICSOU>
>
> Shows Scrooge standing next to his first Dime under glass.
>
That looked like it was really nicely done. Too bad I didn't understand
a word of French in that video. Still, seemed like an awesome event.
Hopefully we will see more pictures soon.
Author
Topic: 200502
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Kai Saarto
French Display
Message 31 -
2005-02-07 at 21:41:45
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Public reply to Don Rosa
Message 32 -
2005-02-07 at 22:32:26
KAI SAARTO to me, 07-02-2005:
> Nobody is thinking about hurting you. You?re the one hurting yourself.
Thanks for making me laugh again, with such nonsense.
I will make my own decisions.
--- Dani?l
> Nobody is thinking about hurting you. You?re the one hurting yourself.
Thanks for making me laugh again, with such nonsense.
I will make my own decisions.
--- Dani?l
Rodney-selfhelpbikeco
I really can't believe this....
Message 33 -
2005-02-08 at 00:49:41
You know, due to other interests, I don't read every DCML email that comes through, and when I occasionally do, I remember why......
Ah yes. You're all onto it. Don Rosa is involved in a conspiracy against his fans.....
Honestly, this is absurd, and I'm done with it. If I don't seriously change my mind in the next day I'm done posting here and reading these e-mails. It's honestly not worth it anymore. I'll just read my comics and keep my opinions between my circle of friends.
Later.
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Ah yes. You're all onto it. Don Rosa is involved in a conspiracy against his fans.....
Honestly, this is absurd, and I'm done with it. If I don't seriously change my mind in the next day I'm done posting here and reading these e-mails. It's honestly not worth it anymore. I'll just read my comics and keep my opinions between my circle of friends.
Later.
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Another Disney list?
Message 34 -
2005-02-08 at 01:47:21
Is there another Disney list out there?
Where people who enjoy disney comics can post?
and can debate (with good humor) the pros and cons of Carl Fallberg or Tony
Strobl and still get along?
steven rowe
Where people who enjoy disney comics can post?
and can debate (with good humor) the pros and cons of Carl Fallberg or Tony
Strobl and still get along?
steven rowe
Don Rosa
Angouleme!
Message 35 -
2005-02-08 at 16:53:12
Here are some websites that contain *many* photos of the Angouleme Festival
and the PICSOU exhibit.
DUCKmania posted my (wife's) pics, but I should point out that her camera
battery failed at a crucial moment and she only got good shots of about the
first third of the PICSOU exhibits. I'd hoped that she could record
close-ups of every few feet of every wall... it was all so well-done! But
other views can be found on the other sites.
If there are any shots that need explaining, lemmee know.
http://www.duckmania.de/english/don_rosa/diary.htm
http://picsoutive.free.fr
http://paperone.free.fr/imagesangouleme/
and the PICSOU exhibit.
DUCKmania posted my (wife's) pics, but I should point out that her camera
battery failed at a crucial moment and she only got good shots of about the
first third of the PICSOU exhibits. I'd hoped that she could record
close-ups of every few feet of every wall... it was all so well-done! But
other views can be found on the other sites.
If there are any shots that need explaining, lemmee know.
http://www.duckmania.de/english/don_rosa/diary.htm
http://picsoutive.free.fr
http://paperone.free.fr/imagesangouleme/
Don Rosa
DCML Digest Issue 4
Message 36 -
2005-02-08 at 17:09:06
From: "Lars Jensen" <lpj at forfatter.dk>
>>>>Don Rosa wrote:
> There was a room devoted to Gyro Gearloose. A section devoted to the
> $crooge villains.
>>>>Which villains did they mention?
I just posted several website links -- you can probably see the various
villain exhibits in some of the shots. About the only weak display in the
whole exhibit is one where they wanted to have a Beagle Boy and Magica
behind barred prison windows in the faux-stone wall... but the busts they
found to use were rather too small. However, the footprints painted on the
floor leading from the prison to the full-scale Bin vault door were also
teeny to match the mini-Beagle Boy... so their attention to detail was still
there!
Another thing missing from the shots is some wider shots of the whole rooms
to "establish" the size and arrangement of the tent. But there were always
so MANY people crowding through the place that that was impossible!
>>>>Don Rosa wrote:
> There was a room devoted to Gyro Gearloose. A section devoted to the
> $crooge villains.
>>>>Which villains did they mention?
I just posted several website links -- you can probably see the various
villain exhibits in some of the shots. About the only weak display in the
whole exhibit is one where they wanted to have a Beagle Boy and Magica
behind barred prison windows in the faux-stone wall... but the busts they
found to use were rather too small. However, the footprints painted on the
floor leading from the prison to the full-scale Bin vault door were also
teeny to match the mini-Beagle Boy... so their attention to detail was still
there!
Another thing missing from the shots is some wider shots of the whole rooms
to "establish" the size and arrangement of the tent. But there were always
so MANY people crowding through the place that that was impossible!
Germund Silvegren
Another Disney list?
Message 37 -
2005-02-08 at 17:57:16
Steven Rowe wrote:
>Is there another Disney list out there?
>Where people who enjoy disney comics can post?
>and can debate (with good humor) the pros and cons of Carl Fallberg
or Tony Strobl
>and still get along?
Steven brings up something that's been bothering me for for quite
some time. I have collected Disney comics for 20 years and gladly
discuss them with people I know. Yet I hardly read the DCML digests
any longer, as practically all that's discussed here deals with
Barks' and Rosa's stories. Both of them are artistic heroes of mine,
but I would personally find much more active interest in a forum
where people were also interested in other Disney comics. I admire
the work of Gottfredson, Jack Bradbury, Paul Murry, Tony Strobl etc
etc very very much, and I'm sure these artists are discussed here too
once in a while, but the messages simply drown in the endless flood
of Barks/Rosa discussions. By now I practically feel DCML ought to
be renamed the Don & Carl Mailing List. Does anybody else getting my
point, or is it only me?
And yes, the far too numerous mails dealing with personal conflicts,
instead of Disney comics, are another reason I usually don't bother
to even scan the DCML digests.
/Germund
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>Is there another Disney list out there?
>Where people who enjoy disney comics can post?
>and can debate (with good humor) the pros and cons of Carl Fallberg
or Tony Strobl
>and still get along?
Steven brings up something that's been bothering me for for quite
some time. I have collected Disney comics for 20 years and gladly
discuss them with people I know. Yet I hardly read the DCML digests
any longer, as practically all that's discussed here deals with
Barks' and Rosa's stories. Both of them are artistic heroes of mine,
but I would personally find much more active interest in a forum
where people were also interested in other Disney comics. I admire
the work of Gottfredson, Jack Bradbury, Paul Murry, Tony Strobl etc
etc very very much, and I'm sure these artists are discussed here too
once in a while, but the messages simply drown in the endless flood
of Barks/Rosa discussions. By now I practically feel DCML ought to
be renamed the Don & Carl Mailing List. Does anybody else getting my
point, or is it only me?
And yes, the far too numerous mails dealing with personal conflicts,
instead of Disney comics, are another reason I usually don't bother
to even scan the DCML digests.
/Germund
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Kai Saarto
Another Disney list?
Message 38 -
2005-02-08 at 18:47:43
Germund Silvegren wrote:
>Steven brings up something that's been bothering me for for quite
>some time. I have collected Disney comics for 20 years and gladly
>discuss them with people I know. Yet I hardly read the DCML digests
>any longer, as practically all that's discussed here deals with
>Barks' and Rosa's stories. Both of them are artistic heroes of mine,
>but I would personally find much more active interest in a forum
>where people were also interested in other Disney comics.
>
>
Mailing Lists are hardly then optimal for your needs. You really cannot
control what kind of material comes to your mailbox (like the mail I
wrote yesterday). Instead a forum would work better. Something along the
lines of DCML-talk (http://www.dcml-talk.org/list.php?f=1). Drawback is
that you must remember to visit the webpage in order to read and
contribute. Picking the interesting subjects should be easy as you can
follow only the threads you are interested in and do not get bombed by
mails that attack someone. Additionally, administrators could delete
offending messages before most of the people even see them.
Since DCML-talk seems to be quite quiet, maybe Cord would like to try
out how it works as an alternative place to talk disney-comics? At least
it has been a really good athmosphere-wise. I wouldn?t mind using forum
like that myself. I really have no need to store all these mails to my
mailbox and takes a lot of time to sort out what to keep and to throw to
trash can. Usually I just delete everything about twice a year, because
I am so lazy...
>Steven brings up something that's been bothering me for for quite
>some time. I have collected Disney comics for 20 years and gladly
>discuss them with people I know. Yet I hardly read the DCML digests
>any longer, as practically all that's discussed here deals with
>Barks' and Rosa's stories. Both of them are artistic heroes of mine,
>but I would personally find much more active interest in a forum
>where people were also interested in other Disney comics.
>
>
Mailing Lists are hardly then optimal for your needs. You really cannot
control what kind of material comes to your mailbox (like the mail I
wrote yesterday). Instead a forum would work better. Something along the
lines of DCML-talk (http://www.dcml-talk.org/list.php?f=1). Drawback is
that you must remember to visit the webpage in order to read and
contribute. Picking the interesting subjects should be easy as you can
follow only the threads you are interested in and do not get bombed by
mails that attack someone. Additionally, administrators could delete
offending messages before most of the people even see them.
Since DCML-talk seems to be quite quiet, maybe Cord would like to try
out how it works as an alternative place to talk disney-comics? At least
it has been a really good athmosphere-wise. I wouldn?t mind using forum
like that myself. I really have no need to store all these mails to my
mailbox and takes a lot of time to sort out what to keep and to throw to
trash can. Usually I just delete everything about twice a year, because
I am so lazy...
Gary Leach
DCML Digest, Vol 24, Issue 4
Message 39 -
2005-02-08 at 21:08:53
> Thanks for making me laugh again, with such nonsense.
> I will make my own decisions.
>
> --- Dani?l
Get down off your high-horse, Daniel. No one gives you any more thought
than they give anyone else.
> I will make my own decisions.
>
> --- Dani?l
Get down off your high-horse, Daniel. No one gives you any more thought
than they give anyone else.
Giuliano
Brazilian character names
Message 40 -
2005-02-10 at 00:24:07
Didier,
Let me see if I can help you:
Pateta = Goofy = dingo
Margarida = Daisy (the flower).
That's al I can remember now.
Giuliano
----- Original Message -----
From: Didier Ghez
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Brazilian character names
Hello,
I am currently helping a journalist who is preparing a book for Disney Iberia about the history of the company and its products in this region of the world.
Of course, in Portugal, the Disney character names that are used in comics are the ones that were created in Brazil.
So, here is a question for the Brazilian members of the list :
Do any of the character names have a special history or meaning? (for example in French : Dingo - Goofy means crazy, Picsou - Scrooge means StealCoins, Geo Trouvetou - Geo Gearloose means Geo FindAll,... some other names are also jokes on famous personalities). Is that the case for any Brazilian names? Can you help us with that?
Thanks a million in advance !!
Didier
Let me see if I can help you:
Pateta = Goofy = dingo
Margarida = Daisy (the flower).
That's al I can remember now.
Giuliano
----- Original Message -----
From: Didier Ghez
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Brazilian character names
Hello,
I am currently helping a journalist who is preparing a book for Disney Iberia about the history of the company and its products in this region of the world.
Of course, in Portugal, the Disney character names that are used in comics are the ones that were created in Brazil.
So, here is a question for the Brazilian members of the list :
Do any of the character names have a special history or meaning? (for example in French : Dingo - Goofy means crazy, Picsou - Scrooge means StealCoins, Geo Trouvetou - Geo Gearloose means Geo FindAll,... some other names are also jokes on famous personalities). Is that the case for any Brazilian names? Can you help us with that?
Thanks a million in advance !!
Didier
Søren Krarup Olesen
Another Disney list?
Message 41 -
2005-02-10 at 20:21:19
KAI TO GERMUND:
>> Steven brings up something that's been bothering me for for quite
>> some time. I have collected Disney comics for 20 years and gladly
>> discuss them with people I know. Yet I hardly read the DCML digests
>> any longer, as practically all that's discussed here deals with
>> Barks' and Rosa's stories. Both of them are artistic heroes of
>> mine, but I would personally find much more active interest in a
>> forum where people were also interested in other Disney comics.
>>
>>
> Mailing Lists are hardly then optimal for your needs. You really
> cannot control what kind of material comes to your mailbox (like the
> mail I wrote yesterday). Instead a forum would work better.
I am slightly amazed by Kai's reply to Germund. As far as I can see,
this is not a question of "technology" (i.e. mailing lists vs. chat vs.
whatever is out there of communication means).
Why isn't a mailing list (one which even calls itself "Disney Comics
Mailing List) *the* "tool" for sending posts about Disney Comics other
than those created by Rosa/Barks?
Agreed, Fallberg and Strobl and many others may not be part of the
current mainstream amongst (excuse me) younger people, but it would
never stop me from posting my opinions about those fine gentlemen or
pose a question to this (equally fine) mailing list.
S?ren
>> Steven brings up something that's been bothering me for for quite
>> some time. I have collected Disney comics for 20 years and gladly
>> discuss them with people I know. Yet I hardly read the DCML digests
>> any longer, as practically all that's discussed here deals with
>> Barks' and Rosa's stories. Both of them are artistic heroes of
>> mine, but I would personally find much more active interest in a
>> forum where people were also interested in other Disney comics.
>>
>>
> Mailing Lists are hardly then optimal for your needs. You really
> cannot control what kind of material comes to your mailbox (like the
> mail I wrote yesterday). Instead a forum would work better.
I am slightly amazed by Kai's reply to Germund. As far as I can see,
this is not a question of "technology" (i.e. mailing lists vs. chat vs.
whatever is out there of communication means).
Why isn't a mailing list (one which even calls itself "Disney Comics
Mailing List) *the* "tool" for sending posts about Disney Comics other
than those created by Rosa/Barks?
Agreed, Fallberg and Strobl and many others may not be part of the
current mainstream amongst (excuse me) younger people, but it would
never stop me from posting my opinions about those fine gentlemen or
pose a question to this (equally fine) mailing list.
S?ren
Kai Saarto
Another Disney list?
Message 42 -
2005-02-11 at 11:58:07
S?ren Krarup Olesen wrote:
> Kai repried to Germund
>
>> Mailing Lists are hardly then optimal for your needs. You really
>> cannot control what kind of material comes to your mailbox (like the
>> mail I wrote yesterday). Instead a forum would work better.
>
>
> I am slightly amazed by Kai's reply to Germund. As far as I can see,
> this is not a question of "technology" (i.e. mailing lists vs. chat vs.
> whatever is out there of communication means).
Question wasn't about technology, but as fas as I can see, it could
solve some of the problems. And at least Germund seemed (in private
mail) to be happy with my answer, so I guess it wasn't a total waste.
Why "amazed"? Did it sound like I was saying "Bugger of to some forum,
Germund! We only talk about Barks and Rosa here!"?? ;-)
In that case I just wasn't clear enough, language barrier and all. I
really would love to see more posts about other writers/artists as well.
I was just trying to come up with a possible solution, not to set a policy.
> Why isn't a mailing list (one which even calls itself "Disney Comics
> Mailing List) *the* "tool" for sending posts about Disney Comics other
> than those created by Rosa/Barks?
Sure it is. I understood that Germund was seeing so many posts about
Barks and Rosa that he wished for himself a way to easily see only or
mostly discussion about other writers/artists. He wondered if there was
a list that centered around those many other currently less popular
ones. I am not aware of such a list. Instead of building complex mail
filters that exclude every post that mention Barks or Rosa, it would
probably be lot more useful to just be able to read the threads you are
interested in. Mailing lists tend to be quite laborious that way - web
forums are friendlier since they are arranged by threads and often sub
categorized even more (for example: a own category for each Barks, Rosa,
Strobl, Murry, etc.). But they are not perfect either.
I guess there would be room for a well done forum also, I know that all
of our members wouldn't like to use it, but for some it would be a way
better option. I know some people who don?t like to get all that mail
and instead try to read the stuff that interests them by using DCML
archives. For them a forum would be a less clumsy way of keeping up and
contributing (can you even contribute unless you are subscribed?).
Ok, but lets talk about some of those other artist/writers for a change.
Any of our members having a script or art published in near future?
> Kai repried to Germund
>
>> Mailing Lists are hardly then optimal for your needs. You really
>> cannot control what kind of material comes to your mailbox (like the
>> mail I wrote yesterday). Instead a forum would work better.
>
>
> I am slightly amazed by Kai's reply to Germund. As far as I can see,
> this is not a question of "technology" (i.e. mailing lists vs. chat vs.
> whatever is out there of communication means).
Question wasn't about technology, but as fas as I can see, it could
solve some of the problems. And at least Germund seemed (in private
mail) to be happy with my answer, so I guess it wasn't a total waste.
Why "amazed"? Did it sound like I was saying "Bugger of to some forum,
Germund! We only talk about Barks and Rosa here!"?? ;-)
In that case I just wasn't clear enough, language barrier and all. I
really would love to see more posts about other writers/artists as well.
I was just trying to come up with a possible solution, not to set a policy.
> Why isn't a mailing list (one which even calls itself "Disney Comics
> Mailing List) *the* "tool" for sending posts about Disney Comics other
> than those created by Rosa/Barks?
Sure it is. I understood that Germund was seeing so many posts about
Barks and Rosa that he wished for himself a way to easily see only or
mostly discussion about other writers/artists. He wondered if there was
a list that centered around those many other currently less popular
ones. I am not aware of such a list. Instead of building complex mail
filters that exclude every post that mention Barks or Rosa, it would
probably be lot more useful to just be able to read the threads you are
interested in. Mailing lists tend to be quite laborious that way - web
forums are friendlier since they are arranged by threads and often sub
categorized even more (for example: a own category for each Barks, Rosa,
Strobl, Murry, etc.). But they are not perfect either.
I guess there would be room for a well done forum also, I know that all
of our members wouldn't like to use it, but for some it would be a way
better option. I know some people who don?t like to get all that mail
and instead try to read the stuff that interests them by using DCML
archives. For them a forum would be a less clumsy way of keeping up and
contributing (can you even contribute unless you are subscribed?).
Ok, but lets talk about some of those other artist/writers for a change.
Any of our members having a script or art published in near future?
Lars Jensen
Another Disney list?
Message 43 -
2005-02-11 at 12:42:52
Kai Saarto wrote:
> Any of our members having a script or art published in near future?
Yes. But I'm not allowed to talk about it.
Here's a non-Barks/non-Rosa topic, though:
Recently, two "new" Paul Murry-drawn Mickey tales have been published in
the Finnish and the Scandinavian weeklies. What does everyone think of
those two stories?
Lars
> Any of our members having a script or art published in near future?
Yes. But I'm not allowed to talk about it.
Here's a non-Barks/non-Rosa topic, though:
Recently, two "new" Paul Murry-drawn Mickey tales have been published in
the Finnish and the Scandinavian weeklies. What does everyone think of
those two stories?
Lars
Kai Saarto
Another Disney list?
Message 44 -
2005-02-11 at 13:13:30
Lars Jensen wrote:
>Kai Saarto wrote:
>
>
>
>>Any of our members having a script or art published in near future?
>>
>>
>
>Yes. But I'm not allowed to talk about it.
>
>
Ah, you?d have to kill me and everyone else on the list if you did.
Let?s get to that AFTER its published (gulp, close one). :-)
>Recently, two "new" Paul Murry-drawn Mickey tales have been published in
>the Finnish and the Scandinavian weeklies. What does everyone think of
>those two stories?
>
>
D 2003-236 (lots of fake monsters) was in my opinion very typical for
Murry. Which is to say, high quality. This is the Mickey of my
childhood. I don?t know why they didn't find these before, but sure
wasn't because they were bad. I found it to be quite enjoyable to be one
about that pesky mouse and his goofy friend.
Other one was about a stolen monkey or something. Couldn't find it to
refresh my memory. If my memory serves me right is was pretty good also.
I like the way Murry does Goofy, he just looks so baffled, especially
the when he (Goofy) holds his hand in front of his mouth in a certain
way. You all know what i am talking about, right?
>Kai Saarto wrote:
>
>
>
>>Any of our members having a script or art published in near future?
>>
>>
>
>Yes. But I'm not allowed to talk about it.
>
>
Ah, you?d have to kill me and everyone else on the list if you did.
Let?s get to that AFTER its published (gulp, close one). :-)
>Recently, two "new" Paul Murry-drawn Mickey tales have been published in
>the Finnish and the Scandinavian weeklies. What does everyone think of
>those two stories?
>
>
D 2003-236 (lots of fake monsters) was in my opinion very typical for
Murry. Which is to say, high quality. This is the Mickey of my
childhood. I don?t know why they didn't find these before, but sure
wasn't because they were bad. I found it to be quite enjoyable to be one
about that pesky mouse and his goofy friend.
Other one was about a stolen monkey or something. Couldn't find it to
refresh my memory. If my memory serves me right is was pretty good also.
I like the way Murry does Goofy, he just looks so baffled, especially
the when he (Goofy) holds his hand in front of his mouth in a certain
way. You all know what i am talking about, right?
Germund Silvegren
DCML Digest, Vol 24, Issue 5
Message 45 -
2005-02-11 at 18:28:27
Kai Saarto wrote:
>And at least Germund seemed (in private mail) to be happy with my
answer, so I >guess it wasn't a total waste.
I was happy with Kai's answer as I did not even know the Disney forum
existed, but I guess that's a result of not being to active in the
DCML discussions. However, even though the forum might be a good
addition the the DCML I don't believe it solves the problem (if there
*is* a problem at all?). I feel that most Disney collectors I know,
who have been collecting for many years and are still truly
interested in Disney comics (which includes myself), don't subscribe
to or just browse through the DCML messages or digests. The problem,
as I believe Kai pointed out, is that it's not worth the effort
browsing through 299 messages about Barks and Rosa, to get to the one
you are interested in. Therefore people interested in discussing
other artists leave the list and the basis for discussing these
stories disappears. Don't get me wrong now, I deeply enjoy Barks and
Rosa's stories, and am very happy Disney comics still has an audience
dedicated enough to support a mailing list such as DCML. Still,
sorting out the messages on other subjects, such as Strobl,
Gottfredson, Al Hubbard's Fethry stories, Italian literature parody
stories etc etc is too timeconsuming even for most dedicated
enthusiasts. In this aspect, a discussion forum might indeed be
better suited for discussions about less frequent topics on an active
mailing list.
Lars Jensen wrote:
>Recently, two "new" Paul Murry-drawn Mickey tales have been
published in
>the Finnish and the Scandinavian weeklies. What does everyone think
of
>those two stories?
I'm usually far too fond of Murry's art to be objective, but I did
not enjoy these stories much. The artwork is skilled and competent,
if yet routine work by an old and bored Murry, but the scripts are
exceptionally uninspired. I am not very fond of most of the 8-page
Mickey Mouse scripts published in WDC&S in the late 1970's/early
1980's but fully understand why these specific stories were shelved.
I usually argue that the modern Mickey Mouse (contrary to
Gottfredson's early and less mature Mickey) isn't a suitable
character for less than, say, 10-page stories, and even longer
stories demand a very skilled writer such as Carl Fallberg for the
scripts to become interesting. Short stories where the main character
could just as well have been Woody Woodpecker or Andy Panda, soon
feel repetitive and boring. Mickey winds up in odd situation - Mickey
solves situation - end of story. There's a limit to how many times
you can use that recipe. One way to get around the problem is to make
the story funny and, i.m.o.h.o., the best Mickey stories of the
1970's are the more humorous ones, such as Hits and Misses (WDC&S
439). The other way to make the story stand out is to add incredible
gimmicks, such as the mechanical monsters in the recently unearthed
Murry story. However, extreme and unbelievable elements in a story
that's not supposed to be humoristic, require that the writer spends
panels and effort to create a solid, more realistic setting for the
reader to accept the plot. That's where the 8 pages of the 1970's
Mickey stories do not do it for me. There may be more ways to make a
Mickey Mouse story interesting, but again i.m.o.h.o., the 1970's
script writer(s) never figured them out.
Btw, a third "unknown" story will be published in the soon upcoming
Hall of Fame volume about Murry, which leaves only one of the four
newly discovered Murry stories to see the light of day.
/Germund
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>And at least Germund seemed (in private mail) to be happy with my
answer, so I >guess it wasn't a total waste.
I was happy with Kai's answer as I did not even know the Disney forum
existed, but I guess that's a result of not being to active in the
DCML discussions. However, even though the forum might be a good
addition the the DCML I don't believe it solves the problem (if there
*is* a problem at all?). I feel that most Disney collectors I know,
who have been collecting for many years and are still truly
interested in Disney comics (which includes myself), don't subscribe
to or just browse through the DCML messages or digests. The problem,
as I believe Kai pointed out, is that it's not worth the effort
browsing through 299 messages about Barks and Rosa, to get to the one
you are interested in. Therefore people interested in discussing
other artists leave the list and the basis for discussing these
stories disappears. Don't get me wrong now, I deeply enjoy Barks and
Rosa's stories, and am very happy Disney comics still has an audience
dedicated enough to support a mailing list such as DCML. Still,
sorting out the messages on other subjects, such as Strobl,
Gottfredson, Al Hubbard's Fethry stories, Italian literature parody
stories etc etc is too timeconsuming even for most dedicated
enthusiasts. In this aspect, a discussion forum might indeed be
better suited for discussions about less frequent topics on an active
mailing list.
Lars Jensen wrote:
>Recently, two "new" Paul Murry-drawn Mickey tales have been
published in
>the Finnish and the Scandinavian weeklies. What does everyone think
of
>those two stories?
I'm usually far too fond of Murry's art to be objective, but I did
not enjoy these stories much. The artwork is skilled and competent,
if yet routine work by an old and bored Murry, but the scripts are
exceptionally uninspired. I am not very fond of most of the 8-page
Mickey Mouse scripts published in WDC&S in the late 1970's/early
1980's but fully understand why these specific stories were shelved.
I usually argue that the modern Mickey Mouse (contrary to
Gottfredson's early and less mature Mickey) isn't a suitable
character for less than, say, 10-page stories, and even longer
stories demand a very skilled writer such as Carl Fallberg for the
scripts to become interesting. Short stories where the main character
could just as well have been Woody Woodpecker or Andy Panda, soon
feel repetitive and boring. Mickey winds up in odd situation - Mickey
solves situation - end of story. There's a limit to how many times
you can use that recipe. One way to get around the problem is to make
the story funny and, i.m.o.h.o., the best Mickey stories of the
1970's are the more humorous ones, such as Hits and Misses (WDC&S
439). The other way to make the story stand out is to add incredible
gimmicks, such as the mechanical monsters in the recently unearthed
Murry story. However, extreme and unbelievable elements in a story
that's not supposed to be humoristic, require that the writer spends
panels and effort to create a solid, more realistic setting for the
reader to accept the plot. That's where the 8 pages of the 1970's
Mickey stories do not do it for me. There may be more ways to make a
Mickey Mouse story interesting, but again i.m.o.h.o., the 1970's
script writer(s) never figured them out.
Btw, a third "unknown" story will be published in the soon upcoming
Hall of Fame volume about Murry, which leaves only one of the four
newly discovered Murry stories to see the light of day.
/Germund
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