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le Richard wrote:
> Also, there are apparently two stories that are remake of the Gilded Man in OS
> 422:
> The Rare Reward
> http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/W+OS+1151-05//+pm+_
> and
> The Rare Stamp Search
> http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/W+MM+++74-01//+pm+_

The Danish fanzine DDF(R)appet issue 4 (from 2004) has a 6? page article
on the reuse of this plot. Especially "The Rare Stamp Search" is a
rather close copy of Barks' story, except it is only half the length (so
some elements have been left out) and it features Mickey, Morty and
Ferdie instead of Donald and his nephews. There are whole passages that
are "exact" copies, complete with all gags left there. For instance the
passage where the main person searches an attic where they are surprised
by a stamp collector in a chest. As the article notices, even the plant
that has been growing its branches in between and behind the wall boards
is present in that passage of both stories. Another gag that has clearly
been copied is that of Donald/Mickey visits the postal office and is
told to get in line to see a list of postings in the relevant year. Also
here, the panels are "exactly" the same.

Thomas

And what makes this double remake extra interesting is that the two remakes were published just one month apart in October and November 1960.

Martin

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> Jonathan H. Gray:
> >Actually I'd swear that I've heard of Barks Duck stories being substituted
> >on to one or two Fallberg/Murry stories before. But I dunno which ones have
> >done that. I guess Rare Stamp Search would be the most glaring of the lot
>
> A search on inducks (http://coa.inducks.org/comp2.php), looking for Murry
> stories that "refer" to another story, bring the following (I lefted out remake
> of Taliaferro or earlier Murry works):
>
> Clipper Ship Caper
> http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/W+MM+++77-01//+pm+_
> Similar gags as in Pirate Gold, OS 9.
>
> Cliff Hangers
> http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/W+MM+++87-05//+pm+_
> Remake of "Losing Face" WDC 204.
>
> Also, there are apparently two stories that are remake of the Gilded Man in OS
> 422:
> The Rare Reward
> http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/W+OS+1151-05//+pm+_
> and
> The Rare Stamp Search
> http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/W+MM+++74-01//+pm+_
>
> All the above links provide images of the first page of each comic.
>
>
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Sorry, I've got the link wrong in my latest email. You probably knew it already
but anyway I'll type it here, the correct link for the advanced search page is
the following:
http://coa.inducks.org/comp.php

The web search has been improved on many different aspects. In particular, many
story pages now include a scan of the comic first page. This is thanks to the
new outducks website at:
http://outducks.org/stories/
There is also a feature page on this site where you can upload scan of comics.
Please take a look!!

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I'm not reading any mail sent to free.fr. Use fwi at i7nducks dot org instead
(remove 7).

>Dear Mr. Smith:
Concerning the sales figures which you published:
are sales for the Ducks trending upwards, downwards, or staying flat?

Thanks!

Derek Smith wrote:
>Here are the sales of Gemstone comics in the US for April 2005:
>
>Top 300 Comic Books:
>
>199. Uncle Scrooge #341 -- 4,956
>206. Donald Duck and Friends #327 -- 4,645
>209. Mickey Mouse and Friends #276 -- 4,352
>216. Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #656 -- 4,021

L. Schulte wrote:
> Concerning the sales figures which you published: are sales for the Ducks
trending upwards, downwards, or staying flat?

I have stored the data kindly provided by Derek since June 2003, and here
are the trends:

WDC&S: average (over 23 issues) of 5,011 copies, trending constantly
downwards from the ~7,000 of the first issue to the current ~4,000; however,
the decrease is much less evident in the last 10 months (the curve is almost
flat).

Uncle Scrooge: average (over 23 issues) of 5,837 copies, trending constantly
downwards from the ~8,000 of the first issue to the current ~5,000; again,
the decrease is much less evident in the last 10 months (same pattern as
WDC&S).

Same goes for MM&Friends and DD&Friends, both currently selling about 4,500
copies (with the Ducks selling a few hundreds more than the Mouse).

I'd be curious to know whether or not those figures keep into account the
copies sold via subscription, both in the U.S. and abroad (I guess they
don't, but I might be wrong).

Ciao,
Armando

Hello, all duck-experts!
Lately i've been discussing the origin of Ludvig von Drake ( Raptus von And in danish ) with some friends.

This is what Hoozoo says :

[quote]
1st PRINT APPEARANCE: "Ludwig von Drake" #1 (Nov. 1961) in "Duckburg, U.S.A."
1st FILM APPEARANCE: "Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color: An Adventure in Color" (Sep. 24, 1961 - first episode of "Walt Disney Presents" colorful new format and name-change)
[unquote]

Does anyone know anything about who invented the caracter?
According to this it must have been the writers for the tv-show mentioned above?
Or maybe his first printed appearance was created before the tv-show?

/Ole

Hi, after a long time, I drop you two lines...
Ole Damgaard asks about Ludwig von Drake...

1st PRINT APPEARANCE: "Ludwig von Drake" #1 (Nov. 1961) in "Duckburg,
U.S.A."
1st FILM APPEARANCE: "Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color: An Adventure
in Color" (Sep. 24, 1961 - first episode of "Walt Disney Presents" colorful
new format and name-change)

Yes, and in the Sunday page of that week, Al Taliaferro drew him into a
framed picture, in Donald's home.

Does anyone know anything about who invented the caracter?
According to this it must have been the writers for the tv-show mentioned
above?
Or maybe his first printed appearance was created before the tv-show?

No, he come out in comics after the show. He was created around 1960 with
his definitive look that can be credited to the Master animator Milt Kahl.
It was necessary a long time to produce all that new footage for the TV
show; we can also say that Ludwing come out in the same period of Pongo and
Perdita, and was animated in the same innovative way of "101 Dalmatians"
movie, using the xerox machine.

Luca