Hey Olaf,
Indiana Pipps' English name is a matter of some debate. Egmont
hasn't actually used him in a story; the one where he is credited on
Inducks as appearing (D 2000-128) actually shows the regular Goofy
dressed in a similar outfit. Indiana Pipps isn't in the story.
Internally at Egmont, Pipps nevertheless does have some English
names. He has been called both Indiana Goof (a direct translation of
his Italian name) and Arizona Goof (his old American name, chosen
because Disney in the USA was not legally allowed to use the name
Indiana).
For whatever it's worth, the character's modern American name is
Arizona Dipp. I think it was either John Clark or Gary Leach who
renamed him? it happened before I joined the staff, so I don't have
the story behind it.
Frankly, I think Arizona is one of those characters who hasn't
quite been exploited right; in his first story, he was very funny
working along with his cousin, Goofy, but more recently he's appeared
almost exclusively with MIckey. I've even met people who thought
Arizona WAS Goofy, because "the two never appear in the same place at
the same time..." in truth an unintentional circumstance, I think.
Best, David
Author
Topic: 200510
(43 messages)
David Gerstein
Indiana Pipps
Message 1 -
2005-10-01 at 02:49:43
Fabio Blanco
Zantaf
Message 2 -
2005-10-01 at 21:11:45
> Except for a cover and a few cameos, the character Zantaf has only been
> used by Luciano Bottaro and Carlo Chendi. Does anybody know why other
> Italian creators haven't taken up this (in my opinion) great villain?
>
> Lars
Not an very original name: the character Zantafio was created in Spirou in
1953 (Spirou et les h?ritiers) and is a vilain too. When appeared this
another disney character?
FABIO
wishing an Don Rosa's Asterix.
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
http://virusmental.blogspot.com
> used by Luciano Bottaro and Carlo Chendi. Does anybody know why other
> Italian creators haven't taken up this (in my opinion) great villain?
>
> Lars
Not an very original name: the character Zantafio was created in Spirou in
1953 (Spirou et les h?ritiers) and is a vilain too. When appeared this
another disney character?
FABIO
wishing an Don Rosa's Asterix.
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
http://virusmental.blogspot.com
Lars Jensen
Zantaf
Message 3 -
2005-10-03 at 12:37:23
Fabio Blanco wrote:
>> [...] the character Zantaf [...]
>
> Not an very original name: the character Zantafio was created in
> Spirou in 1953 (Spirou et les héritiers) and is a vilain too.
Zantafio... That's Fantasio's cousin, right?
Zantaf is an evil, mad and brilliant inventor, so he and Zantafio are
pretty dissimilar.
> When appeared this another disney character?
According to Inducks, he debuted in 1968.
Lars
>> [...] the character Zantaf [...]
>
> Not an very original name: the character Zantafio was created in
> Spirou in 1953 (Spirou et les héritiers) and is a vilain too.
Zantafio... That's Fantasio's cousin, right?
Zantaf is an evil, mad and brilliant inventor, so he and Zantafio are
pretty dissimilar.
> When appeared this another disney character?
According to Inducks, he debuted in 1968.
Lars
Nils
Hoola Bandoola!
Message 4 -
2005-10-03 at 17:28:18
I've always been fond of The Hoola Bandoola
Band, formed in 1970 by the very gifted Swedish
musicians Mikael Wiehe, Bj?rn Afzelius and Peter
Clemmedson; see e.g.
http://www.progg.se/band.asp?ID=36
But I didn't know (until today) that their name,
which should be known to all Scandinavians with
any affinity to the history of "political rock"
(as opposed to "list pop"), apparently is taken
from a Donald Duck movie. My question is:
is this really true?, and, v etom sluchae, which
DD movie, precisely?
It says on the website that the cartoon in question
is about ants attacking Donald & Daisy's picnic,
and "Hoola Bandoola!" is apparently the attack
war cry of the ants ... (in the American original?
or only in the Swedish version?)
Nils Lid Hjort
Band, formed in 1970 by the very gifted Swedish
musicians Mikael Wiehe, Bj?rn Afzelius and Peter
Clemmedson; see e.g.
http://www.progg.se/band.asp?ID=36
But I didn't know (until today) that their name,
which should be known to all Scandinavians with
any affinity to the history of "political rock"
(as opposed to "list pop"), apparently is taken
from a Donald Duck movie. My question is:
is this really true?, and, v etom sluchae, which
DD movie, precisely?
It says on the website that the cartoon in question
is about ants attacking Donald & Daisy's picnic,
and "Hoola Bandoola!" is apparently the attack
war cry of the ants ... (in the American original?
or only in the Swedish version?)
Nils Lid Hjort
Olof Siverbo
Hoola Bandoola!
Message 5 -
2005-10-03 at 17:48:59
nils at math.uio.no:
> I've always been fond of The Hoola Bandoola
> Band, formed in 1970 by the very gifted Swedish
> musicians Mikael Wiehe, Bj?rn Afzelius and Peter
> Clemmedson; see e.g.
> http://www.progg.se/band.asp?ID=36
>
> But I didn't know (until today) that their name,
> which should be known to all Scandinavians with
> any affinity to the history of "political rock"
> (as opposed to "list pop"), apparently is taken
> from a Donald Duck movie. My question is:
> is this really true?, and, v etom sluchae, which
> DD movie, precisely?
Yes, this is true. Hoola Bandoola Band took their name from the Donald
Duck cartoon "Tea for Two Hundred" (from 1948). I believe that this
cartoon was shown on Swedish television on Christmas Eve in the late
60's and early 70's.
/Olof
> I've always been fond of The Hoola Bandoola
> Band, formed in 1970 by the very gifted Swedish
> musicians Mikael Wiehe, Bj?rn Afzelius and Peter
> Clemmedson; see e.g.
> http://www.progg.se/band.asp?ID=36
>
> But I didn't know (until today) that their name,
> which should be known to all Scandinavians with
> any affinity to the history of "political rock"
> (as opposed to "list pop"), apparently is taken
> from a Donald Duck movie. My question is:
> is this really true?, and, v etom sluchae, which
> DD movie, precisely?
Yes, this is true. Hoola Bandoola Band took their name from the Donald
Duck cartoon "Tea for Two Hundred" (from 1948). I believe that this
cartoon was shown on Swedish television on Christmas Eve in the late
60's and early 70's.
/Olof
Olof Siverbo
Nytt test
Message 6 -
2005-10-03 at 17:49:24
Ignorera mig!
Raptor165
Colors?
Message 7 -
2005-10-04 at 03:54:52
My brothers and I have a bet going as to which nephew lays claim to
which color. They are insisting--ridiculously, of course--that Louie is
blue, while I assure them that the correct color code is Huey=red,
Dewey=blue, and Louie=green. We've looked it up on several reliable
websites, and we are currently scanning our massive comic collection to
further verify with the works of Barks, Rosa and Van Horn. However, it
would also be a nice subsidary to have the testament of hundreds of
loyal duck fans. $2 rides on the crest of this bet. Voices?
dPayne
P.S. The "Echo" story has Donald yelling "Dewey's got a girl!" with the
blue neph responding "I HAVE NOT!" The brothers concede defeat.
However, what does everyone else think?
which color. They are insisting--ridiculously, of course--that Louie is
blue, while I assure them that the correct color code is Huey=red,
Dewey=blue, and Louie=green. We've looked it up on several reliable
websites, and we are currently scanning our massive comic collection to
further verify with the works of Barks, Rosa and Van Horn. However, it
would also be a nice subsidary to have the testament of hundreds of
loyal duck fans. $2 rides on the crest of this bet. Voices?
dPayne
P.S. The "Echo" story has Donald yelling "Dewey's got a girl!" with the
blue neph responding "I HAVE NOT!" The brothers concede defeat.
However, what does everyone else think?
Elaine Ramshaw
Nephew colors
Message 8 -
2005-10-04 at 16:10:54
I asked the question about the nephews' colors in a letter that was printed
in DD 305 (Gladstone 2nd run), and the answer was given as you predict. "The
Disney Company has specified the guideline that the nephews are to be
colored as you noted. Here's how to remember: red is the deepest hue, so
Huey is red; dew is made up of water and water is blue, so Dewey is blue;
Louie is the only one left and leaves are green." The neater way to say the
last clause would be "that leaves Louie, and leaves are green."
Elaine
in DD 305 (Gladstone 2nd run), and the answer was given as you predict. "The
Disney Company has specified the guideline that the nephews are to be
colored as you noted. Here's how to remember: red is the deepest hue, so
Huey is red; dew is made up of water and water is blue, so Dewey is blue;
Louie is the only one left and leaves are green." The neater way to say the
last clause would be "that leaves Louie, and leaves are green."
Elaine
Gary Leach
DCML Digest, Vol 32, Issue 3
Message 9 -
2005-10-04 at 17:07:04
dPayne:
> My brothers and I have a bet going as to which nephew lays claim to
> which color. They are insisting--ridiculously, of course--that
> Louie is blue, while I assure them that the correct color code is
> Huey=red, Dewey=blue, and Louie=green. We've looked it up on
> several reliable websites, and we are currently scanning our
> massive comic collection to further verify with the works of Barks,
> Rosa and Van Horn. However, it would also be a nice subsidary to
> have the testament of hundreds of loyal duck fans. $2 rides on the
> crest of this bet. Voices?
The Gladstone/Gemstone scheme (or rule-of-thumb, more like) is:
Huey - Red
Dewey - Blue
Louie - Green
This won't settle that bet, though, because other publishers have
their own schemes, and even Disney has hardly been consistent about
this over the years.
Gary
> My brothers and I have a bet going as to which nephew lays claim to
> which color. They are insisting--ridiculously, of course--that
> Louie is blue, while I assure them that the correct color code is
> Huey=red, Dewey=blue, and Louie=green. We've looked it up on
> several reliable websites, and we are currently scanning our
> massive comic collection to further verify with the works of Barks,
> Rosa and Van Horn. However, it would also be a nice subsidary to
> have the testament of hundreds of loyal duck fans. $2 rides on the
> crest of this bet. Voices?
The Gladstone/Gemstone scheme (or rule-of-thumb, more like) is:
Huey - Red
Dewey - Blue
Louie - Green
This won't settle that bet, though, because other publishers have
their own schemes, and even Disney has hardly been consistent about
this over the years.
Gary
JOHN CHADWICK
Colors?
Message 10 -
2005-10-05 at 02:38:57
Somewhere in one of the Gladstone issues of DuckTales, somebody from Disney confirmed this, however it only became a rule with the production of DuckTales, and Gladstone made a note to follow suit. All bets are off on any color coding prior to that show. You'll notice in some of the old cartoons they're all wearing the same color. Sometimes you'll see a color outside of those three, yellow for instance. It became more important with onset of DuckTales because of a greater need to distinguish the characters. (I daresay if you'd asked Al Taliaferro or Carl Barks which nephew that was in a given panel, they might not have always been able to tell you.) Since DuckTales, I've noticed most productions, be it animation, comic or anything theme parkish tries to follow the color code. (Although as Disney World employee, I notice the occasional slip up.)
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> [Original Message]
> From: <raptor165 at aol.com>
> To: <dcml at stp.lingfil.uu.se>
> Date: 10/4/2005 9:26:31 AM
> Subject: Colors?
>
> My brothers and I have a bet going as to which nephew lays claim to
> which color. They are insisting--ridiculously, of course--that Louie is
> blue, while I assure them that the correct color code is Huey=red,
> Dewey=blue, and Louie=green. We've looked it up on several reliable
> websites, and we are currently scanning our massive comic collection to
> further verify with the works of Barks, Rosa and Van Horn. However, it
> would also be a nice subsidary to have the testament of hundreds of
> loyal duck fans. $2 rides on the crest of this bet. Voices?
>
> dPayne
>
> P.S. The "Echo" story has Donald yelling "Dewey's got a girl!" with the
> blue neph responding "I HAVE NOT!" The brothers concede defeat.
> However, what does everyone else think?
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> [Original Message]
> From: <raptor165 at aol.com>
> To: <dcml at stp.lingfil.uu.se>
> Date: 10/4/2005 9:26:31 AM
> Subject: Colors?
>
> My brothers and I have a bet going as to which nephew lays claim to
> which color. They are insisting--ridiculously, of course--that Louie is
> blue, while I assure them that the correct color code is Huey=red,
> Dewey=blue, and Louie=green. We've looked it up on several reliable
> websites, and we are currently scanning our massive comic collection to
> further verify with the works of Barks, Rosa and Van Horn. However, it
> would also be a nice subsidary to have the testament of hundreds of
> loyal duck fans. $2 rides on the crest of this bet. Voices?
>
> dPayne
>
> P.S. The "Echo" story has Donald yelling "Dewey's got a girl!" with the
> blue neph responding "I HAVE NOT!" The brothers concede defeat.
> However, what does everyone else think?
> _______________________________________________
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Ola Martinsson (AS/EAB)
Does anyone know in what way the two variants of Donald Duck X-mas
Message 11 -
2005-10-05 at 16:33:53
In the Overstreet price guide the Donald Duck X-mas giveaway from 1944 is noted to appear in two variants. It does however not say in what way these two variants differ from eachother. I'm hoping that someone on this list could be able to tell me what the difference is. I'm talking about the issue that has the same cover as WDC 51, which by the way also was published at X-mas 1944, but with changed colors. Most notably the background of the giveaway is yellow instead of green. My copy of this comic on the back cover there are the seven dwarfs around a blank X-mas tree. Is it the back cover that differs ?
Ola in sunny Stockholm +15 and a wonderful autumn
Ola in sunny Stockholm +15 and a wonderful autumn
Rob Klein
HDL cap colours
Message 12 -
2005-10-05 at 17:18:41
When I was a kid reading the comics in Canada and USA, Western publishings colours were
not always
the same, but in the 1950s Huey was most commonly red, Dewey green (or yellow) and Louie
blue. I
can't get those colours for them out of my mind, as that is how I was introduced to them.
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not always
the same, but in the 1950s Huey was most commonly red, Dewey green (or yellow) and Louie
blue. I
can't get those colours for them out of my mind, as that is how I was introduced to them.
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Ole Damgaard
New interview with Harry Fluks
Message 13 -
2005-10-06 at 02:18:04
A couple of months ago I met Harry Fluks, and we talked about a lot of
things. Some of it concerned this list and Inducks. That turned out to be a
rather nice (though completely unprepared) interview, much too long and
detailed for where I originally intended to use it, so instead I've put it
on my website, for anyone who wants to read it.
www.disneycomics.dk/interviews/harryfluks.asp
-And thanks a lot to Harry. I kept bothering him with annoying questions
that day. :-)
/ole
things. Some of it concerned this list and Inducks. That turned out to be a
rather nice (though completely unprepared) interview, much too long and
detailed for where I originally intended to use it, so instead I've put it
on my website, for anyone who wants to read it.
www.disneycomics.dk/interviews/harryfluks.asp
-And thanks a lot to Harry. I kept bothering him with annoying questions
that day. :-)
/ole
Le Richard
Donald creator
Message 14 -
2005-10-06 at 10:22:02
Do we know who are the creator(s) of Donald Duck. I've read different stories
about it, involving several animators and writers, but I've never read any
clear and precise text on this. Is there a good source for these kind of
questions regarding animators? (I suppose there are but most of the sources I
know are only about comic-books).
Francois
about it, involving several animators and writers, but I've never read any
clear and precise text on this. Is there a good source for these kind of
questions regarding animators? (I suppose there are but most of the sources I
know are only about comic-books).
Francois
Ola Martinsson (AS/EAB)
Disney parodies
Message 15 -
2005-10-07 at 16:46:00
How is it in your respective countries when it comes to Disney parodies ?
I know of the Air Pirates in the US but other wise ?
Here is a link to Air Pirates that I found by the way
http://img151.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=airpirates1013nw.jpg
http://img279.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=airpirates2011ow.jpg
Elitserien was a Swedish comic book with was only released in one issue
in 1985. It contained a number of Donald Duck parodies (Kalle Anka
(Donald Duck) is Sweden's most popular comic book), among them
one where it was revealed that Daisy Duck was the mistress of Uncle
Scrooge and that Huey, Louie and Dewey where their illegitimate
lovechildren. On the cover, you could see Donald being fired upon by the
East German border patrol. The publisher was sued by Disney and no more
issues of this magazine was ever released.
Then there was Arne Anka (Arne Duck). This was published as weekly or maybe monthly (I dont remember) one-page gags. Arne was a left-wing satirical comic about society. And really not at all connected to Donald Duck.
Nevertheless Disney objected to it.
So then there was a strip where a huge crate labeled Disney was dropped on Arne as he was walking at the harbour docks. So he seemed to be splattered beneath it. But there was a trap door in the ground were Arne was taken through an underground passage to a room. There they performed plastic surgery on him and put on a pointy birds beek instead of the duck beek and changed the name to Arne X.
This was ok for Disney.
But after some months Arne did go in to the store Buttericks in Stockholm and purchased a fake strap-on duck beak and once again looked exactly as before.
Now Disney gave up.
After some time the old name was reused again.
For those of you that would like to see more of this really funny comic check out this link
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~mosh/arne_eng.html
It would be fun to hear your comments on this comic. I suspect that the majority of you can't understand Swedish but I can try to translate some of it if you like.
I hope this citation below doesn't offend anyone but it's probably one of the best known citations from Arne Anka.
"To think before you talk is like wiping your ass before you shit"
Ola in sunny Stockholm +16 and a wonderful autumn this far.
I know of the Air Pirates in the US but other wise ?
Here is a link to Air Pirates that I found by the way
http://img151.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=airpirates1013nw.jpg
http://img279.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=airpirates2011ow.jpg
Elitserien was a Swedish comic book with was only released in one issue
in 1985. It contained a number of Donald Duck parodies (Kalle Anka
(Donald Duck) is Sweden's most popular comic book), among them
one where it was revealed that Daisy Duck was the mistress of Uncle
Scrooge and that Huey, Louie and Dewey where their illegitimate
lovechildren. On the cover, you could see Donald being fired upon by the
East German border patrol. The publisher was sued by Disney and no more
issues of this magazine was ever released.
Then there was Arne Anka (Arne Duck). This was published as weekly or maybe monthly (I dont remember) one-page gags. Arne was a left-wing satirical comic about society. And really not at all connected to Donald Duck.
Nevertheless Disney objected to it.
So then there was a strip where a huge crate labeled Disney was dropped on Arne as he was walking at the harbour docks. So he seemed to be splattered beneath it. But there was a trap door in the ground were Arne was taken through an underground passage to a room. There they performed plastic surgery on him and put on a pointy birds beek instead of the duck beek and changed the name to Arne X.
This was ok for Disney.
But after some months Arne did go in to the store Buttericks in Stockholm and purchased a fake strap-on duck beak and once again looked exactly as before.
Now Disney gave up.
After some time the old name was reused again.
For those of you that would like to see more of this really funny comic check out this link
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~mosh/arne_eng.html
It would be fun to hear your comments on this comic. I suspect that the majority of you can't understand Swedish but I can try to translate some of it if you like.
I hope this citation below doesn't offend anyone but it's probably one of the best known citations from Arne Anka.
"To think before you talk is like wiping your ass before you shit"
Ola in sunny Stockholm +16 and a wonderful autumn this far.