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Gilles,

> I remember reading an article once (actually a scanned one-page
> article, in
> english) explaining that at some point, in a publication of the
> comic book
> version of the Silly Symphony "The Wise Little Hen" (a recent one,
> I think),
> they renamed Donald Duck into "Daniel Duck", probably because his
> early
> appearance would puzzle the kids...

This renaming actually came in the storybook retelling "Mrs.
Cackle's Corn." This was published first in the children's book
MICKEY MOUSE AND HIS FRIENDS (1937), and later reprinted in the
omnibus WALT DISNEY'S STORY LAND (various editions, 1970s-90s). The
Hen became Katie Cackle, with Peter Pig renamed Patsy.
On Page 20 of Gemstone's MICKEY AND THE GANG: CLASSIC STORIES IN
VERSE, I described the renaming like this:

"[The Good Housekeeping adaptation of THE WISE LITTLE HEN] was
expanded into a full-length prose story twice: first for Mickey Mouse
and His Friends (1937), a storybook published by Thomas Nelson and
Sons, and then for Walt Disney?s Comics and Stories 18 (1942).
Interestingly, both stories? authors avoided identifying the Duck
star as Donald. Mickey Mouse author Jean Ayer renamed him ?Daniel,?
with Peter becoming ?Patsy? for good measure. WDC&S called Donald
simply ?the Duck? and erased him from Tom Wood?s vignettes.
Presumably, the goal was to avoid confusion with the mature version
of Donald visible elsewhere in the publications."

But hey, I'm not the only one to have written about this subject!
Bruce Hamilton beat me to it in an old "Year That Was" article in a
1990s Gladstone comic. I'm not sure which one; an Inducks search
didn't immediately turn it up.

Best, David

--
David Gerstein
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Thanks a lot to Robert and David for your replies!
That helped a LOT!
David, do you think it's possible that I got it in WDC#580?
I know it's not Gladstone (or is it? I'm not familiar with all that...), but at
least I know this issue was among the stuff I downloaded from bittorrent, and
then lost (I'm downloading it again, it might take a while, but I'll let you
know)...
Merci again!

--
Gilles R. Maurice, Ducktor don.(gen.map.)
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Thanks for the precisions, Daniel! I think that article was from :
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=Qus%2fUS++294B
In Uncle Scrooge #294, 1995
(obtained by typing "year that was" as keywords)

I guess someone should credit Bruce Hamilton in COA for this article...

--
Gilles R. Maurice, Ducktor donaldismus(gen.map.)
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In a few weeks members of The Carl Barks Fan Club will be leaving the United States for their 2007 European Tour. I will be joining the small group (6-7) in Vienna, Austria on Sept.30. Our primary destination will be the Carl Barks exhibit in KREMS at the Karikaturmuseum.
Oct 2 Travel to OSLO, Norway, visit corporate headquarters of Edmont Publishing, meet with Barks scholars and fans.
Oct 5 Travel to EDINBURGH, Scotland
Oct 9 Depart GLASGOW. Scotland to BERLIN, Germany
Oct12 Depart BERLIN for LONDON, England.
Oct 16 Depart for The United States.

We would welcome the opportunity to meet with any Barks fans or collectors of any kind of Disneyana. I personally would appreciate anyone who would like to share their collection for viewing. Besides Barks i collect animation art and most Disneyana made prior to 1950. Please personally e-mail me if this is of interest to you and maybe we can work out a meeting. If you have any suggestions for a toy store, book shop, exhibition, market or fair to visit in one of our cities we are visiting or nearby please write. -- Yours truly, Dennis Books...anything for a mouse or a duck

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Hello Everyone!
Because of e-mail problems of the system "bouncing" back DCML news, I have not received much lately.
Any news on the Don Rosa front? Is he planning on anything new this year or next? Is he working on a huge secret project to take the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck deeper through the Roaring '20's, the Depression, and into the 1940's?
Thanks!
L. Schulte

I'd seen that before and showed it to some friends. I can imagine Disney's
legal team and the higher ups in the company going apespit ballistic over
that. I seem to remember reading many years ago about Donald Duck being
misused for some kind of propaganda type thing in another country, but it
was so many years ago when I'd read of it I can't really even be too sure
that it was Donald or what country it was. I'm thinking one of the Latin
American ones, but I'm drawing total blanks. =\

Jonathan H. Gray

>From: Dave Rawson <TheGuy at drawson.com>
>To: "Dr Gilles R. Maurice" <calisota at online.fr>
>CC: dcml at nafsk.se
>Subject: Re: Nazi propaganda Short "Nimbus Lib?r?quot; (1943)
>Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:36:02 -0700
>
>Dr Gilles R. Maurice wrote:
> > but I didn't know the Nazis actually used Disney characters in
>propaganda
> > shorts as well
>It's become a time-(dis)honored tradition, apparently. Hamas has been using
>a Mickey look-alike, Farfur, for some time now to socialize pre-schoolers.
>In his final appearance, Farfur is beaten to death by a land-greedy Jew.
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6257594.stm
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9lL81QhiR8
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow's_Pioneers
>
>
>
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For Americans, Barks' work represents pleasant memories, but in 1972, Chilean Marxist writers Ariel Dorfman and Armand Mattelart denounced the Disney comics as propaganda designed to further the exploitation of Third World countries. Their vitriolic pamphlet "How to Read Donald Duck" ("Para Leer al Pato Donald") concluded, "As long as he (Donald Duck) strolls with his smiling countenance so innocently about the streets of our country, as long as Donald is power and our collective representative, the bourgeoisie and imperialism can sleep in peace."

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From: "Jonathan H. Gray" <jongraywb at hotmail.com>

> I'd seen that before and showed it to some friends. I can imagine Disney's
> legal team and the higher ups in the company going apespit ballistic over
> that. I seem to remember reading many years ago about Donald Duck being
> misused for some kind of propaganda type thing in another country, but it
> was so many years ago when I'd read of it I can't really even be too sure
> that it was Donald or what country it was. I'm thinking one of the Latin
> American ones, but I'm drawing total blanks. =\"