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Timo Ronkainen:
> Geoffrey Blum writes on first set of the Egmont's CBL that the pencil
> layouts for 'King Scrooge the first' has been found.

Have the pencil layouts of 'King Scrooge the First' been published?

Joakim Gunnarsson:
> I've seen the scribbles for all the stories except for Life Savers, so I
> guess that's the one were Jippes used the edited version instead of
> Barks original.

So, 'Life Savers' must have had a Schr?der-treatment from Jippes. :-)

> BTW: That volume of CBL looks just amazing with a ton of Jippes
> artwork. :) Something for you to look forward to!

Are the volumes available as loose volumes, or does one need to buy all
volumes?

Will the Egmont Carl Barks Library print the previously lost Barks scripts,
of 'King Scrooge the First' and 'Hound of the Moaning Hills'?

Best wishes,
Dani?l

Correcting myself:

I TL 1391-A (Uncle Scrooge and the celtic enigm) does
not take place in Scotland actually, but in England
instead.

Santiago.

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> From: "Martin Andrew" <mandkandrew at optusnet.com.au>
> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:26:05 +1000
> Subject: Russian forthe Junior Woodchuks
>
> Greetings from Australia.
>
> A translator friend passed this on: The Russian translation for Junior
> Woodchucks was "Young Marmots' Society!"

That's a very apt and accurate translation. Woodchucks are in the
marmot family (woodchucks are Marmota monax), but they only live in
North America so there probably isn't a specific Russian word for them
(well, biologists may have one, but it wouldn't be familiar to the
general public). So going with 'marmot' is a great solution.

In English, there are several different words for Marmota monax,
including 'woodchuck', 'groundhog', 'land beaver' and 'whistlepig'. I
wonder why Barks chose 'woodchuck'?

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I just received my copies of the Finnish calendar with Rosa's Uncle Scrooge
drawings, hooray! The calendar clearly has Rosa's explanations of what's
what in all the pictures, printed on the first couple of pages. Will those
explanations be printed in English in the issues of Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge
in which the drawings will appear? If not, is there any way I can get an
English version of the explanations?

Anyway, I am happy as a clam. (By the way, I learned the origin of that odd
phrase: it's short for the original expression, "happy as a clam at high
tide," which makes a lot more sense; you can't go clamming at high tide.)
Thanks again to Helgen for the directions on where to order it! My friend
Lowell and my godson David will also be most grateful to you, come
Christmas.

I have much enjoyed the reports on the names of the Junior Woodchucks around
the world. Re: the comment on "woodchicks" for the girl scouts--I've long
wished that Barks had stuck with the name "Junior Bonfire Girls," which he
used in the very early "Kite Weather" story (WDCS 42, 1944). For you folks
in other parts of the world, I'll explain that it's a direct take-off on the
name of another scout-like organization in the States, the Campfire Girls.
But I think "Junior Bonfire Girls" is a *much* cooler name than "Little
Chickadees" (or worse, "Littlest Chickadees"). I wish someone would revive
the Bonfire Girls organization in Duckburg.

I know, I know, the name "Junior Woodchuck" ("pint-sized marmot") wouldn't
sound very noble if we didn't have such great associations with it from all
the Barksian stories. But it's still got a bit more inherent dignity to it
than the patronizing "Littlest Chickadee."

So, in Sweden and Denmark, where the Woodchucks are green woodpeckers, are
the Chickadees also a kind of bird, so that the two groups have more of a
species parity?

Elaine

In sweden
Junior woodchucks = "gr?ng?lingarna" wich means green woodpecker (acutally it means green/yellow woodpecker but official name is green ;) but also its a word used when someone is a rookie, at beginners level...I think its since 'to be "green"' in swedish means that your new to something and also the green woodpecker is several times mentioned as the laughing woodpecker so that can have something to do with it.
Ironic tho since the woodchucks are anything but helpless newbies :)

the chickadees = "gr?nsp?ttorna", the word itself gives nothing when tring to translate but "sp?tta" is a kind of flounder and a translation of sp?tta gives "sp?tta|fil? -n---fillet of plaice"
And Gr?n is green. so a green fillet of plaice? I do hope someone has a better explenation cause this one bugges me :)

I've also seen that the chickadees is called Gr?nnmeisene in norway and not only meisene?
Green titmouse... whats up with the green anyway?

regards
Elin Pettersson
> From: Halsten.Aastebol at elkraft.ntnu.no> To: dcml at nafsk.se> Subject: RE: Finnish Rosa calendar & Chickadees name> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:51:55 +0200> > Hi!> > In Norway: > Junior woodchucks = Hakkespettene (the woodpeckers)> Little Chickadees = Meisene (the titmouses, titmouse is a small bird (I used> Clue to find a translation))> > Halsten> > -----Original Message-----> From: dcml-bounces at nafsk.se [mailto:dcml-bounces at nafsk.se] On Behalf Of> Elaine Ramshaw> Sent: 25. september 2007 20:58> To: dcml at nafsk.se> Subject: Finnish Rosa calendar & Chickadees name> > I just received my copies of the Finnish calendar with Rosa's Uncle Scrooge> drawings, hooray! The calendar clearly has Rosa's explanations of what's> what in all the pictures, printed on the first couple of pages. Will those> explanations be printed in English in the issues of Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge> in which the drawings will appear? If not, is there any way I can get an> English version of the explanations?> > Anyway, I am happy as a clam. (By the way, I learned the origin of that odd> phrase: it's short for the original expression, "happy as a clam at high> tide," which makes a lot more sense; you can't go clamming at high tide.)> Thanks again to Helgen for the directions on where to order it! My friend> Lowell and my godson David will also be most grateful to you, come> Christmas. > > I have much enjoyed the reports on the names of the Junior Woodchucks around> the world. Re: the comment on "woodchicks" for the girl scouts--I've long> wished that Barks had stuck with the name "Junior Bonfire Girls," which he> used in the very early "Kite Weather" story (WDCS 42, 1944). For you folks> in other parts of the world, I'll explain that it's a direct take-off on the> name of another scout-like organization in the States, the Campfire Girls.> But I think "Junior Bonfire Girls" is a *much* cooler name than "Little> Chickadees" (or worse, "Littlest Chickadees"). I wish someone would revive> the Bonfire Girls organization in Duckburg. > > I know, I know, the name "Junior Woodchuck" ("pint-sized marmot") wouldn't> sound very noble if we didn't have such great associations with it from all> the Barksian stories. But it's still got a bit more inherent dignity to it> than the patronizing "Littlest Chickadee."> > So, in Sweden and Denmark, where the Woodchucks are green woodpeckers, are> the Chickadees also a kind of bird, so that the two groups have more of a> species parity?> > Elaine> > > > _______________________________________________> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml> > _______________________________________________> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
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In the 1939 cartoon, the nephews aren't identified as being Junior
Woodchucks. They are simply on a sailing trip with Donald, though if I
remember the cartoon correctly, the context does seem to indicate that
they are doing this as a part of some sort of scouting organization or
activity. IIRC, the Junior Woodchucks weren't created until much later
in the Barks comics. As far as I know, the Junior Woodchucks did not
appear in animated cartoons until DuckTales in the 1980s (at least in
the US).

As someone who grew up in the US and spent part of his childhood both
scouting and reading Duck comics, I would say that there is no question
that the Junior Woodchucks/Chickadees would be considered scouts here.
The similarities between the real life organizations and the ones in the
comics are so strong that it had never occurred to me that anyone might
consider JW/C anything but a good-natured parody of scouting.

-Jonathan

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jyri lehtinen wrote:
> In the article "Scouting in popular culture" in
> wikipedia there?s a line: # Sea Scouts (1939) US;
> Donald Duck goes to sea with the Junior Woodchucks.
>
> Here's the imdb site
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031905/
>
> So we're/are the boys considered scouts in te US as
> well?
>
> The same article also tells that that in Brazil JW ar
> Junior scouts. Maybe we could list somewhere online
> the countrys where they are considered scouts.
>
> Jyri
>
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