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Dana Gabbard
I am too busy laughing. Carl Barks as a true blue conservative would heartily approve.

To: kimba_1962 at verizon.net; thft at att.net; chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com; marklungo at care2.com; dgabbard at hotmail.com; crooper at sprynet.com; richbutpoor at yahoo.com; gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com; rsmyers at hotmail.com; passscribe at aol.com; dcml at stp.ling.uu.se; otterknight at yahoo.com; jjpierce at aol.com; gweagle at eastlink.caSubject: Re: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:36:44 -0500From: jtorci3511 at aol.comChris:That is an AMAZING mainstream reference! How do you think Don Rosa feels about his art being unexpectedly politicized? Joe. -----Original Message-----From: Chris Barat <kimba_1962 at verizon.net>To: Joe Torcivia <JTorci3511 at aol.com>; Mark Arnold <thft at att.net>; Chuck Munson <chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com>; Mark Lungo <marklungo at care2.com>; Dana Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com>; Brent Swanson <crooper at sprynet.com>; Rich Chew <richbutpoor at yahoo.com>; David Gerstein <gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com>; Richard Smyers <rsmyers at hotmail.com>; Ken Bausert <passscribe at aol.com>; Disney Comics Mailing Lis <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>; Mike Demcio <otterknight at yahoo.com>; Jeff Pierce <jjpierce at aol.com>; Gregory Weagle <gweagle at eastlink.ca>Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 1:02 pmSubject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!
How about THIS for an unexpected reference to Scrooge McDuck and company in popular (with conservatives, anyway) media: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp I'll also post a link to this on my blog. The Launchpad McQuack reference REALLY caused my eyes to pop. Someone at THE WEEKLY STANDARD is definitely a Disney comics -- and perhaps even Disney TV animation -- fan! Chris

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Chuck Munson
Dana,

Don't you mean "true red conservative"? Uh wait, no, that doesn't sound right! Makes it sound like a communist conservative - but that's hard-line. Huh??? Oh boy, my little stars and disappointing comets, I'm soooo confused. Chris, as our resident conservative, can you please explain this conundrum to me/us????

No wonder i can't figure politics out!

Cheers and happy Thanksgiving - and remember that in spite of anything else - politically, financially, globally - we all have our loved ones and one another and that right there is a whole lot to be thankful for.

Chuck (and Becky and Kathryn)

--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Dana Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dana Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!
> To: "jOE Torcivia" <jtorci3511 at aol.com>, kimba_1962 at verizon.net, thft at att.net, chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com, marklungo at care2.com, "Brent Swanson" <crooper at sprynet.com>, richbutpoor at yahoo.com, gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com, rsmyers at hotmail.com, passscribe at aol.com, dcml at stp.ling.uu.se, otterknight at yahoo.com, jjpierce at aol.com, gweagle at eastlink.ca
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 5:04 PM
> I am too busy laughing. Carl Barks as a true blue
> conservative would heartily approve.
>
> To: kimba_1962 at verizon.net; thft at att.net;
> chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com; marklungo at care2.com;
> dgabbard at hotmail.com; crooper at sprynet.com;
> richbutpoor at yahoo.com; gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com;
> rsmyers at hotmail.com; passscribe at aol.com;
> dcml at stp.ling.uu.se; otterknight at yahoo.com;
> jjpierce at aol.com; gweagle at eastlink.caSubject: Re: Amazing
> Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody
> piece!Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:36:44 -0500From:
> jtorci3511 at aol.comChris:That is an AMAZING mainstream
> reference! How do you think Don Rosa feels about his art
> being unexpectedly politicized? Joe. -----Original
> Message-----From: Chris Barat
> <kimba_1962 at verizon.net>To: Joe Torcivia
> <JTorci3511 at aol.com>; Mark Arnold
> <thft at att.net>; Chuck Munson
> <chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com>; Mark Lungo
> <marklungo at care2.com>; Dana Gabbard
> <dgabbard at hotmail.com>; Brent Swanson
> <crooper at sprynet.com>; Rich Chew
> <richbutpoor at yahoo.com>; David Gerstein
> <gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com>; Richard Smyers
> <rsmyers at hotmail.com>; Ken Bausert
> <passscribe at aol.com>; Disney Comics Mailing Lis
> <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>; Mike Demcio
> <otterknight at yahoo.com>; Jeff Pierce
> <jjpierce at aol.com>; Gregory Weagle
> <gweagle at eastlink.ca>Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 1:02
> pmSubject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY
> STANDARD parody piece!
> How about THIS for an unexpected reference to Scrooge
> McDuck and company in popular (with conservatives, anyway)
> media:
> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp
> I'll also post a link to this on my blog. The Launchpad
> McQuack reference REALLY caused my eyes to pop. Someone at
> THE WEEKLY STANDARD is definitely a Disney comics -- and
> perhaps even Disney TV animation -- fan! Chris
>
>
> Tis the season to save your money! Get the new AOL Holiday
> Toolbar for money saving offers and gift ideas.
Dana Gabbard
Well, remember that late Uncle Scrooge where the judge sentenced the Beagles to be re-re-re... rehabilitated.

Anyway even Geoff Blum enjoyed this. But frowned on the McQuack reference as non-canonical. > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:12:00 -0800> From: chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!> To: jtorci3511 at aol.com; kimba_1962 at verizon.net; thft at att.net; marklungo at care2.com; crooper at sprynet.com; richbutpoor at yahoo.com; gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com; rsmyers at hotmail.com; passscribe at aol.com; dcml at stp.ling.uu.se; otterknight at yahoo.com; jjpierce at aol.com; gweagle at eastlink.ca; dgabbard at hotmail.com> > Dana,> > Don't you mean "true red conservative"? Uh wait, no, that doesn't sound right! Makes it sound like a communist conservative - but that's hard-line. Huh??? Oh boy, my little stars and disappointing comets, I'm soooo confused. Chris, as our resident conservative, can you please explain this conundrum to me/us????> > No wonder i can't figure politics out!> > Cheers and happy Thanksgiving - and remember that in spite of anything else - politically, financially, globally - we all have our loved ones and one another and that right there is a whole lot to be thankful for.> > Chuck (and Becky and Kathryn)> > --- On Wed, 11/26/08, Dana Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com> wrote:> > > From: Dana Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com>> > Subject: RE: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!> > To: "jOE Torcivia" <jtorci3511 at aol.com>, kimba_1962 at verizon.net, thft at att.net, chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com, marklungo at care2.com, "Brent Swanson" <crooper at sprynet.com>, richbutpoor at yahoo.com, gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com, rsmyers at hotmail.com, passscribe at aol.com, dcml at stp.ling.uu.se, otterknight at yahoo.com, jjpierce at aol.com, gweagle at eastlink.ca> > Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 5:04 PM> > I am too busy laughing. Carl Barks as a true blue> > conservative would heartily approve.> > > > To: kimba_1962 at verizon.net; thft at att.net;> > chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com; marklungo at care2.com;> > dgabbard at hotmail.com; crooper at sprynet.com;> > richbutpoor at yahoo.com; gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com;> > rsmyers at hotmail.com; passscribe at aol.com;> > dcml at stp.ling.uu.se; otterknight at yahoo.com;> > jjpierce at aol.com; gweagle at eastlink.caSubject: Re: Amazing> > Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody> > piece!Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:36:44 -0500From:> > jtorci3511 at aol.comChris:That is an AMAZING mainstream> > reference! How do you think Don Rosa feels about his art> > being unexpectedly politicized? Joe. -----Original> > Message-----From: Chris Barat> > <kimba_1962 at verizon.net>To: Joe Torcivia> > <JTorci3511 at aol.com>; Mark Arnold> > <thft at att.net>; Chuck Munson> > <chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com>; Mark Lungo> > <marklungo at care2.com>; Dana Gabbard> > <dgabbard at hotmail.com>; Brent Swanson> > <crooper at sprynet.com>; Rich Chew> > <richbutpoor at yahoo.com>; David Gerstein> > <gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com>; Richard Smyers> > <rsmyers at hotmail.com>; Ken Bausert> > <passscribe at aol.com>; Disney Comics Mailing Lis> > <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>; Mike Demcio> > <otterknight at yahoo.com>; Jeff Pierce> > <jjpierce at aol.com>; Gregory Weagle> > <gweagle at eastlink.ca>Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 1:02> > pmSubject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY> > STANDARD parody piece!> > How about THIS for an unexpected reference to Scrooge> > McDuck and company in popular (with conservatives, anyway)> > media: > > http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp> > I'll also post a link to this on my blog. The Launchpad> > McQuack reference REALLY caused my eyes to pop. Someone at> > THE WEEKLY STANDARD is definitely a Disney comics -- and> > perhaps even Disney TV animation -- fan! Chris > > > > > > Tis the season to save your money! Get the new AOL Holiday> > Toolbar for money saving offers and gift ideas.> > >
Chris Barat
Joe,

I don't know, but its appearance here suggests that the writer has been
following Disney comics at least since 1987, when Rosa debuted (as
opposed to being an old Barks sourdough). Does anyone recognize the
Rosa stories from which these panels of Magica and Scrooge/Flintheart
sprang? It's a long shot, but I thought I'd ask...

Chris

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:36 PM, jtorci3511 at aol.com wrote:

Chris:

That is an AMAZING mainstream reference! How do you think Don Rosa
feels about his art being unexpectedly politicized?

Joe.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Barat <kimba_1962 at verizon.net>
To: Joe Torcivia <JTorci3511 at aol.com>; Mark Arnold <thft at att.net>; Chuck
Munson <chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com>; Mark Lungo <marklungo at care2.com>; Dana
Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com>; Brent Swanson <crooper at sprynet.com>;
Rich Chew <richbutpoor at yahoo.com>; David Gerstein
<gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com>; Richard Smyers <rsmyers at hotmail.com>;
Ken Bausert <passscribe at aol.com>; Disney Comics Mailing Lis
<dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>; Mike Demcio <otterknight at yahoo.com>; Jeff Pierce
<jjpierce at aol.com>; Gregory Weagle <gweagle at eastlink.ca>
Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 1:02 pm
Subject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody
piece!

How about THIS for an unexpected reference to Scrooge McDuck and company
in popular (with conservatives, anyway) media:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp
<http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp>

I'll also post a link to this on my blog. The Launchpad McQuack
reference REALLY caused my eyes to pop. Someone at THE WEEKLY STANDARD
is definitely a Disney comics -- and perhaps even Disney TV animation --
fan!

Chris

<http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp>
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<http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp>

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Dana Gabbard
I added to the entry on Scrooge in Wikipedia and mention of this piece with a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrooge_McDuck#Other_media
Ozkaracalar
Hi,
I've recently started a new blog on vintage Disney comics & books, in
which the last posti as of now, includes full (which I believe is the
first time they have been available on the net in full) scans of Bibo &
Lang's Mickey Mouse Book from 1930, the first ever Mickey Mouse
publication:
http://kayaozkaracalar3.blogspot.com/
Enjoy
-Kaya ?.
Leo Schulte
Greetings to all!

The satire in the Weekly Standard with Uncle Scrooge asking for government assistance indeed had to come from a Disney Comics fan!

But I have to object: Scrooge would never have gone bankrupt by investing in subprime mortgages, which were mainly about political correctness in getting mortgages to people without the means to support a house or pay a mortgage, and then "bundling them" to be sold to investors higher up the food chain in an irrational bubble market.

Instead, Scrooge would now be buying the parts of the "wreckage" that could be rehabilitated and looking to increase his fortune in the future!

If Uncle Scrooge comic books were read by more Americans, and by more Europeans, our economies would be in much better shape! Uncle Scrooge is all about hard work, personal pride in accomplishment, individual freedom, and the absence of whining about how awful things are! If you think things are awful, then you get to work and make things better!

Best Wishes!

L. Schulte

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Lars Jensen
I just *had to* comment on this one:

Leo Schulte wrote:

> Scrooge would never have gone bankrupt by investing in subprime mortgages,
> which were mainly about political correctness in getting mortgages to
> people without the means to support a house or pay a mortgage, and then
> "bundling them" to be sold to investors higher up the food chain in an
> irrational bubble market.

Let me get this straight: the current financial and economic crises which
are causing lots of firings, factory closures, loss of pensions,
bankruptcies etc. etc. all over the globe are *not* primarily caused by
irresponsible greed in the financial sector in combination with
international political instability and failed economic policies... but
rather by "political correctness"?!?! (Whatever "political correctness" is.)

I'm stunned.

> If Uncle Scrooge comic books were read by more Americans, and by more
> Europeans, our economies would be in much better shape! Uncle Scrooge is
> all about hard work, personal pride in accomplishment, individual freedom,
> and the absence of whining about how awful things are! If you think
> things are awful, then you get to work and make things better!

If people are hurting due to no fault of their own, they have the right to
whine. And I refuse to base my financial dispositions on a fictitious
character who stores all his cash in a glorified piggy bank.

Lars
Gary Leach
And Scrooge would never take investment advice from Gyro Gearloose!

(As for mentions of Launchpad and of Donald still being in the Navy,
the author doesn't seem to know much about the Disney Ducks outside
of DuckTales.)

Gary

> Greetings to all!
>
> The satire in the Weekly Standard with Uncle Scrooge asking for
> government assistance indeed had to come from a Disney Comics fan!
>
> But I have to object: Scrooge would never have gone bankrupt by
> investing in subprime mortgages, which were mainly about political
> correctness in getting mortgages to people without the means to
> support a house or pay a mortgage, and then "bundling them" to be
> sold to investors higher up the food chain in an irrational bubble
> market.
>
> Instead, Scrooge would now be buying the parts of the "wreckage"
> that could be rehabilitated and looking to increase his fortune in
> the future!
>
> If Uncle Scrooge comic books were read by more Americans, and by
> more Europeans, our economies would be in much better shape! Uncle
> Scrooge is all about hard work, personal pride in accomplishment,
> individual freedom, and the absence of whining about how awful
> things are! If you think things are awful, then you get to work
> and make things better!
>
> Best Wishes!
>
> L. Schulte
>
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