The final panel of 'Rug Riders In The Sky' shows a furious Magica throwing
stones at Scrooge.
It just struck me that this ending is similar to what Barks has said about
the ending of the lost 'golden apples' story:
"Daisy was so jealous that she was throwing things at Donald, and she was
not acting in a ladylike manner." (1974 interview with Michael Barrier)
According to Barks, in the same interview, this was the only excuse the
editor gave him for rejecting the 'golden apples' story.
So, I'm surprised that he made another story with such an ending. Or is
Magica safe to use and Daisy not?
Dani?l
Author
Topic: 201006
(39 messages)
D.M. Van Eijmeren
Barks - Golden Apples & Rug Riders In The Sky
Message 1 -
2010-06-01 at 14:59:50
Nils
Re the ladylikenesses of Barksian ladies
Message 2 -
2010-06-02 at 16:51:37
Daniel van Eijmeren discusses the Golden Apples and Rug Riders
in the Sky stories:
> It just struck me that this ending is similar to what Barks has said about
> the ending of the lost 'golden apples' story:
> "Daisy was so jealous that she was throwing things at Donald, and she was
> not acting in a ladylike manner." (1974 interview with Michael Barrier)
>
> According to Barks, in the same interview, this was the only excuse the
> editor gave him for rejecting the 'golden apples' story.
> So, I'm surprised that he made another story with such an ending. Or is
> Magica safe to use and Daisy not?
That makes sense -- but not entirely, as we've certainly seen
Daisy in somewhat nonladylike semiaggressive situations too?
Can we collectively manage to make a list of say five "ouch!,
Daisy is aggressive today" situations? In a one-pager I'm reminded
of now, inside one of the Four Color comics c. 1951 (?, I'll check
later on today), Daisy is a Bad Loser indeed, and is throwing
various objects (but not apples) at poor Donald.
But, by all means, Magica *is and remains and is meant to be*
a more terrifying figure than Daisy.
Nils Lid Hjort
in the Sky stories:
> It just struck me that this ending is similar to what Barks has said about
> the ending of the lost 'golden apples' story:
> "Daisy was so jealous that she was throwing things at Donald, and she was
> not acting in a ladylike manner." (1974 interview with Michael Barrier)
>
> According to Barks, in the same interview, this was the only excuse the
> editor gave him for rejecting the 'golden apples' story.
> So, I'm surprised that he made another story with such an ending. Or is
> Magica safe to use and Daisy not?
That makes sense -- but not entirely, as we've certainly seen
Daisy in somewhat nonladylike semiaggressive situations too?
Can we collectively manage to make a list of say five "ouch!,
Daisy is aggressive today" situations? In a one-pager I'm reminded
of now, inside one of the Four Color comics c. 1951 (?, I'll check
later on today), Daisy is a Bad Loser indeed, and is throwing
various objects (but not apples) at poor Donald.
But, by all means, Magica *is and remains and is meant to be*
a more terrifying figure than Daisy.
Nils Lid Hjort
Thomas Hauber
Great Steamboat Race
Message 3 -
2010-06-02 at 16:57:16
Where on earth did Barks come up with the fact that pitch was used to
fire brass boilers of paddle-wheelers? Is there a reference anywhere
in Mark Twain?
It seems now that pitch is an up and coming bio-fuel. Barks, What a guy.
fire brass boilers of paddle-wheelers? Is there a reference anywhere
in Mark Twain?
It seems now that pitch is an up and coming bio-fuel. Barks, What a guy.
Tony Leopold
Barks - Golden Apples & Rug Riders In The Sky
Message 4 -
2010-06-02 at 17:43:22
I think your guess is likely accurate.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:59 AM, D.M. van Eijmeren <dve at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
> The final panel of 'Rug Riders In The Sky' shows a furious Magica throwing
> stones at Scrooge.
>
> It just struck me that this ending is similar to what Barks has said about
> the ending of the lost 'golden apples' story:
> "Daisy was so jealous that she was throwing things at Donald, and she was
> not acting in a ladylike manner." (1974 interview with Michael Barrier)
>
> According to Barks, in the same interview, this was the only excuse the
> editor gave him for rejecting the 'golden apples' story.
> So, I'm surprised that he made another story with such an ending. Or is
> Magica safe to use and Daisy not?
>
> Dani?l
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:59 AM, D.M. van Eijmeren <dve at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
> The final panel of 'Rug Riders In The Sky' shows a furious Magica throwing
> stones at Scrooge.
>
> It just struck me that this ending is similar to what Barks has said about
> the ending of the lost 'golden apples' story:
> "Daisy was so jealous that she was throwing things at Donald, and she was
> not acting in a ladylike manner." (1974 interview with Michael Barrier)
>
> According to Barks, in the same interview, this was the only excuse the
> editor gave him for rejecting the 'golden apples' story.
> So, I'm surprised that he made another story with such an ending. Or is
> Magica safe to use and Daisy not?
>
> Dani?l
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
Kriton Kyrimis
Re the ladylikenesses of Barksian ladies
Message 5 -
2010-06-03 at 11:17:34
NILS:
> But, by all means, Magica *is and remains and is meant to be*
> a more terrifying figure than Daisy.
Is she? Donald has found the courage to enter Magica's lair on occasion, but
he has gone to great lengths to avoid the unpleasantness that he knows Daisy
is about to inflict on him (spring cleaning, boring social events, etc.). Even
when he does want to be with her, he usually has to win some competition or
other before he can have the privilege of dancing or having lunch with her.
Given all this, I wonder why Donald bothers sticking with Daisy!
Kriton.
-----
"Captain! There are aliens down on the planet. I managed to kill only
fifteen of them before ascertaining they were non-hostile!"
-----
> But, by all means, Magica *is and remains and is meant to be*
> a more terrifying figure than Daisy.
Is she? Donald has found the courage to enter Magica's lair on occasion, but
he has gone to great lengths to avoid the unpleasantness that he knows Daisy
is about to inflict on him (spring cleaning, boring social events, etc.). Even
when he does want to be with her, he usually has to win some competition or
other before he can have the privilege of dancing or having lunch with her.
Given all this, I wonder why Donald bothers sticking with Daisy!
Kriton.
-----
"Captain! There are aliens down on the planet. I managed to kill only
fifteen of them before ascertaining they were non-hostile!"
-----
Tomas Österman
Re the ladylikenesses of Barksian ladies
Message 6 -
2010-06-03 at 14:04:04
One guess: love.
/Tomas ?
- Vidarebefordrat meddelande som bilaga -
From: kyrimis at alumni.princeton.edu
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:17:34 +0300
Subject: Re: re the ladylikenesses of Barksian ladies
NILS:
> But, by all means, Magica *is and remains and is meant to be*
> a more terrifying figure than Daisy.
Is she? Donald has found the courage to enter Magica's lair on occasion, but
he has gone to great lengths to avoid the unpleasantness that he knows Daisy
is about to inflict on him (spring cleaning, boring social events, etc.). Even
when he does want to be with her, he usually has to win some competition or
other before he can have the privilege of dancing or having lunch with her.
Given all this, I wonder why Donald bothers sticking with Daisy!
Kriton.
-----
"Captain! There are aliens down on the planet. I managed to kill only
fifteen of them before ascertaining they were non-hostile!"
-----
_________________________________________________________________
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/Tomas ?
- Vidarebefordrat meddelande som bilaga -
From: kyrimis at alumni.princeton.edu
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:17:34 +0300
Subject: Re: re the ladylikenesses of Barksian ladies
NILS:
> But, by all means, Magica *is and remains and is meant to be*
> a more terrifying figure than Daisy.
Is she? Donald has found the courage to enter Magica's lair on occasion, but
he has gone to great lengths to avoid the unpleasantness that he knows Daisy
is about to inflict on him (spring cleaning, boring social events, etc.). Even
when he does want to be with her, he usually has to win some competition or
other before he can have the privilege of dancing or having lunch with her.
Given all this, I wonder why Donald bothers sticking with Daisy!
Kriton.
-----
"Captain! There are aliens down on the planet. I managed to kill only
fifteen of them before ascertaining they were non-hostile!"
-----
_________________________________________________________________
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Schulte
Why Donald Stays With Daisy
Message 7 -
2010-06-03 at 16:33:05
Kriton wrote:
Is she? Donald has found the courage to enter Magica's lair on occasion, but he has gone to great lengths to avoid the unpleasantness that he knows Daisy is about to inflict on him (spring cleaning, boring social events, etc.). Even when he does want to be with her, he usually has to win some competition or other before he can have the privilege of dancing or having lunch with her.
Given all this, I wonder why Donald bothers sticking with Daisy!
Easy! True love! Although in the Disney Universe, taking the next step to the hatching of eggs, is scrupulously out of sight and avoided.
Showing bravery on the battlefield was nothing for some WWII veterans I knew: but like Donald, they were often AWOL when it came to the "unpleasantness" which their wives had planned!
Best Wishes!
L. Schulte
Is she? Donald has found the courage to enter Magica's lair on occasion, but he has gone to great lengths to avoid the unpleasantness that he knows Daisy is about to inflict on him (spring cleaning, boring social events, etc.). Even when he does want to be with her, he usually has to win some competition or other before he can have the privilege of dancing or having lunch with her.
Given all this, I wonder why Donald bothers sticking with Daisy!
Easy! True love! Although in the Disney Universe, taking the next step to the hatching of eggs, is scrupulously out of sight and avoided.
Showing bravery on the battlefield was nothing for some WWII veterans I knew: but like Donald, they were often AWOL when it came to the "unpleasantness" which their wives had planned!
Best Wishes!
L. Schulte
Matt Yaklin
Great Steamboat Race
Message 8 -
2010-06-03 at 19:22:28
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Thomas Hauber wrote:
> Where on earth did Barks come up with the fact that pitch was used to fire
> brass boilers of paddle-wheelers? Is there a reference anywhere in Mark
> Twain?
Life on the Mississippi by Mark Twain makes these mentions:
"From three o'clock onward they wouldbe burning rosin
and patch-pine (the sign of preparation), and so one had
the picturesque spectacle of a rank, some two or three
miles long, of tall, ascending columns of coal-block smoke;"
"great volumes of the blackest smoke are rolling and tumbling out of the
chimneys-- a husbanded grandeur created with a bit of pitch pine just
before arriving at a town;"
So i am not sure if they used it consistently for boiler needs but
they did indeed use it.
matt
> It seems now that pitch is an up and coming bio-fuel. Barks, What a guy.
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
> Where on earth did Barks come up with the fact that pitch was used to fire
> brass boilers of paddle-wheelers? Is there a reference anywhere in Mark
> Twain?
Life on the Mississippi by Mark Twain makes these mentions:
"From three o'clock onward they wouldbe burning rosin
and patch-pine (the sign of preparation), and so one had
the picturesque spectacle of a rank, some two or three
miles long, of tall, ascending columns of coal-block smoke;"
"great volumes of the blackest smoke are rolling and tumbling out of the
chimneys-- a husbanded grandeur created with a bit of pitch pine just
before arriving at a town;"
So i am not sure if they used it consistently for boiler needs but
they did indeed use it.
matt
> It seems now that pitch is an up and coming bio-fuel. Barks, What a guy.
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Kriton Kyrimis
Why Donald Stays With Daisy
Message 9 -
2010-06-04 at 11:47:59
L. Schulte:
> Showing bravery on the battlefield was nothing for some WWII veterans I
> knew: but like Donald, they were often AWOL when it came to the
> "unpleasantness" which their wives had planned! O:-)
So, you agree with me, that Daisy is a more terrifying figure for Donald than
Magica, just as the veterans' wives were for the veterans, compared to the
enemy in the battlefield!
Kriton.
-----
"I am a highwayman, madam."
"This isn't a highway!"
-----
> Showing bravery on the battlefield was nothing for some WWII veterans I
> knew: but like Donald, they were often AWOL when it came to the
> "unpleasantness" which their wives had planned! O:-)
So, you agree with me, that Daisy is a more terrifying figure for Donald than
Magica, just as the veterans' wives were for the veterans, compared to the
enemy in the battlefield!
Kriton.
-----
"I am a highwayman, madam."
"This isn't a highway!"
-----
D.M. Van Eijmeren
Archie's Super Duck and Barks's Icebox Robber
Message 10 -
2010-06-13 at 21:24:34
Somebody wrote me:
[quote]
There was a Super Duck story printed in Archie Comics that tells exactly the
same story as the Carl Barks version of "The Icebox Robber," and in the
scene where Super Duck is shown raiding the refrigerator, he looks a lot
like Donald. Maybe Bark's art is now owned by Archie Comics.
[/quote]
Does someone recognize this Super Duck story?
--- Dani?l
"You swindler! You cheat! ROB your poor old uncle, will you?"
(which Barks story?)
[quote]
There was a Super Duck story printed in Archie Comics that tells exactly the
same story as the Carl Barks version of "The Icebox Robber," and in the
scene where Super Duck is shown raiding the refrigerator, he looks a lot
like Donald. Maybe Bark's art is now owned by Archie Comics.
[/quote]
Does someone recognize this Super Duck story?
--- Dani?l
"You swindler! You cheat! ROB your poor old uncle, will you?"
(which Barks story?)
Shad Daly
Disney Comics released today in US
Message 11 -
2010-06-16 at 18:28:54
Would anybody be interested in seeing this email every week?
Disney Comics scheduled to be released to comic book stores in USA and
Canada today (June 16 2010):
BOOM! STUDIOS
Darkwing Duck #1 $3.99
Donald Duck And Friends #355 $2.99
WALL-E #7 $2.99
--
Shad Z. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?^Q^
My Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/~shadzane/
My Web Site: http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
Disney Comics scheduled to be released to comic book stores in USA and
Canada today (June 16 2010):
BOOM! STUDIOS
Darkwing Duck #1 $3.99
Donald Duck And Friends #355 $2.99
WALL-E #7 $2.99
--
Shad Z. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?^Q^
My Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/~shadzane/
My Web Site: http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
Matt Yaklin
Disney Comics released today in US
Message 12 -
2010-06-17 at 17:28:09
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Shad Daly wrote:
> Would anybody be interested in seeing this email every week?
>
I rarely get to the comic store now days and tend to read my old
back issues containing my favorite stories. But with that said I
would enjoy knowing what is coming out now days.
So I vote yes.
I would have never guessed that Darkwing Duck was still around and
it is a shame that cover prices are so high now days. One of the
main reasons I stopped buying. I really enjoyed those penny pincher
comics on cheap paper at 99 cents each several years ago.
matt
> Disney Comics scheduled to be released to comic book stores in USA and
> Canada today (June 16 2010):
>
> BOOM! STUDIOS
> Darkwing Duck #1 $3.99
> Donald Duck And Friends #355 $2.99
> WALL-E #7 $2.99
>
> --
> Shad Z. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?^Q^
> My Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/~shadzane/
> My Web Site: http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
> Would anybody be interested in seeing this email every week?
>
I rarely get to the comic store now days and tend to read my old
back issues containing my favorite stories. But with that said I
would enjoy knowing what is coming out now days.
So I vote yes.
I would have never guessed that Darkwing Duck was still around and
it is a shame that cover prices are so high now days. One of the
main reasons I stopped buying. I really enjoyed those penny pincher
comics on cheap paper at 99 cents each several years ago.
matt
> Disney Comics scheduled to be released to comic book stores in USA and
> Canada today (June 16 2010):
>
> BOOM! STUDIOS
> Darkwing Duck #1 $3.99
> Donald Duck And Friends #355 $2.99
> WALL-E #7 $2.99
>
> --
> Shad Z. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?^Q^
> My Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/~shadzane/
> My Web Site: http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
Tony Leopold
Disney Comics released today in US
Message 13 -
2010-06-18 at 01:05:33
I would be!
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 16, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Shad Daly <shadslists at gmail.com> wrote:
> Would anybody be interested in seeing this email every week?
>
> Disney Comics scheduled to be released to comic book stores in USA and
> Canada today (June 16 2010):
>
> BOOM! STUDIOS
> Darkwing Duck #1 $3.99
> Donald Duck And Friends #355 $2.99
> WALL-E #7 $2.99
>
> --
> Shad Z. ^Q^
> My Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/~shadzane/
> My Web Site: http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 16, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Shad Daly <shadslists at gmail.com> wrote:
> Would anybody be interested in seeing this email every week?
>
> Disney Comics scheduled to be released to comic book stores in USA and
> Canada today (June 16 2010):
>
> BOOM! STUDIOS
> Darkwing Duck #1 $3.99
> Donald Duck And Friends #355 $2.99
> WALL-E #7 $2.99
>
> --
> Shad Z. ^Q^
> My Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/~shadzane/
> My Web Site: http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Chuck Munson
Disney Comics Released Today....(DCML Digest, Vol 88, Issue 5)
Message 14 -
2010-06-18 at 06:01:09
Given that we actually do now have a plethora of new titles of all sorts of Disney and Pixar lineage, I would hope that an update like that would be of interest to our overseas friends (and also to us over-worked and over-stressed US-based fans who have a tendency to continually be behind the eight ball on keeping up!).
Thanks for proposing it!
?
Chuck Munson
Herndon, Virginia, USA
?
PS Does anyone have any idea why Boom is putting a one-dollar premium on the new Darkwing Duck title ($3.99 versus $2.99).? More pages, or just because they can??
Thanks for proposing it!
?
Chuck Munson
Herndon, Virginia, USA
?
PS Does anyone have any idea why Boom is putting a one-dollar premium on the new Darkwing Duck title ($3.99 versus $2.99).? More pages, or just because they can??
Shad Daly
Disney Comics Released Today....
Message 15 -
2010-06-18 at 16:16:28
OK, I will send this info out weekly, probably on Monday or Tuesday
The Darkwing Duck title is 32 pages, as opposed to the 24 pages that
is standard for Boom's Disney comics
--
Shad Z. ^Q^
My Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/~shadzane/
My Web Site: http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
> From:?Chuck Munson <chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com>
> To:?dcml at nafsk.se
> Date:?Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:01:09 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject:?Re: Disney Comics Released Today....(DCML Digest, Vol 88, Issue 5)
> Given that we actually do now have a plethora of new titles of all sorts of Disney and Pixar lineage, I would hope that an update like that would be of interest to our overseas friends (and also to us over-worked and over-stressed US-based fans who have a tendency to continually be behind the eight ball on keeping up!).
> Thanks for proposing it!
>
> Chuck Munson
> Herndon, Virginia, USA
>
> PS Does anyone have any idea why Boom is putting a one-dollar premium on the new Darkwing Duck title ($3.99 versus $2.99).? More pages, or just because they can??
>
The Darkwing Duck title is 32 pages, as opposed to the 24 pages that
is standard for Boom's Disney comics
--
Shad Z. ^Q^
My Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/~shadzane/
My Web Site: http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
> From:?Chuck Munson <chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com>
> To:?dcml at nafsk.se
> Date:?Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:01:09 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject:?Re: Disney Comics Released Today....(DCML Digest, Vol 88, Issue 5)
> Given that we actually do now have a plethora of new titles of all sorts of Disney and Pixar lineage, I would hope that an update like that would be of interest to our overseas friends (and also to us over-worked and over-stressed US-based fans who have a tendency to continually be behind the eight ball on keeping up!).
> Thanks for proposing it!
>
> Chuck Munson
> Herndon, Virginia, USA
>
> PS Does anyone have any idea why Boom is putting a one-dollar premium on the new Darkwing Duck title ($3.99 versus $2.99).? More pages, or just because they can??
>