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Topic: Evil Fire-Breathing Mickey Mouse on South Park tonight

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WB
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/kainemaxwell/mickeymouse.jpg
Anybody else catch it? How they managed to get away with half an episode of that I'll never know. XD
Furienna
Did they really say the name "Mickey Mouse" then? I mean, maybe they can get away with it, if they only showed a fire-breathing mouse.
WB
They actually said "Mr. Mouse" during the second-thirds of the episode, and then "Mickey" in the latter half of it. So it was definately him.
LadyQuackly
I just wonder if Disney caught it. If they're as protective of their copyright as they always were, then it's going to hit the fan sooner or later...
Roger North
I can't imagine Mickey Mouse breathing fire or appearing on a show as raunchy as South Park.
Furienna
Quote from user: WBThey actually said "Mr. Mouse" during the second-thirds of the episode, and then "Mickey" in the latter half of it. So it was definately him.
In that case, I can't see how this won't "hit the fan", as LadyQuackly put it. We're probably going to hear more about this.
ASSpirine
It's not like they haven't done such things on South Park. Family guy comes to mind (bashing of).
They pretty much get away with these things I think.

It hits the Fan, episode on South Park was also quite controversial. ;)
Robb_K
Anyone can tell from the drawing that that character is NOT Mickey Mouse. So Disney shouldn't be able to sue for character infringement. They said "Mr. Mouse". He could be ANY mouse.
Furienna
I think it looks like Mickey, but maybe that's just me.
ASSpirine
It is Mickey... I didn't watch the SP episode yet, so I don't know how it was used in the episode.
Of course they wouldn't copy the whole thing.
WB
Quote from user: Robb_KAnyone can tell from the drawing that that character is NOT Mickey Mouse. So Disney shouldn't be able to sue for character infringement. They said "Mr. Mouse". He could be ANY mouse.
No Robb. They specifically said Mickey in the show. "Mr. Mouse" followed by "Mickey". :)

Anyway - it's all moot regardless. Trey and Matt are notorious for this. They produce many South Park eps in very short amounts of time - its how they remain relevant in topical situations (one ep was produced in just under 6 days from what I hear). In cases where legal gets on thier keisters too heavily Comedy Central simply bans the episode and refuses to air it ever again which makes the offended parties happy. That's what happened with the one where Jared from Subway got aids and I think another one. It never appeared again in rotation on the network and you can only get it via the DVD boxsets.

It hasn't happened often, but it HAS happened. :)
Robb_K
Quote from user: WBQuote from user: Robb_KAnyone can tell from the drawing that that character is NOT Mickey Mouse. So Disney shouldn't be able to sue for character infringement. They said "Mr. Mouse". He could be ANY mouse.
No Robb. They specifically said Mickey in the show. "Mr. Mouse" followed by "Mickey". :)

Anyway - it's all moot regardless. Trey and Matt are notorious for this. They produce many South Park eps in very short amounts of time - its how they remain relevant in topical situations (one ep was produced in just under 6 days from what I hear). In cases where legal gets on thier keisters too heavily Comedy Central simply bans the episode and refuses to air it ever again which makes the offended parties happy. That's what happened with the one where Jared from Subway got aids and I think another one. It never appeared again in rotation on the network and you can only get it via the DVD boxsets.

It hasn't happened often, but it HAS happened. :)

If DISNEY doesn't like their character being illegally used, and misrepresented, they'll do more than see that that episode is never seen on TV again. They'd make sure that it would never appear on commercial CDs, and the Network and production company would be sued for millions of dollars in damages (for tarnishing Mickey and Disney's images), and they'd be forced out of business.

That's why the "Mickey Mouse" in the cartoon looked virtually NOTHING like Disney's Mickey Mouse (although it was clear by later referring to him as Mickey, and by his having two large buttons on his shorts, that they were making fun of Disney's Mickey Mouse).
Alle
If you make a search in Google writing "South Park Mickey Mouse" you'll see this isn't the first time MM appeared in the show...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/(Email removed)/3348811694/
http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/04/10/south-park-eek-a-penis/
LadyQuackly
All of this reminds me of a famous (or rather, infamous) case where Disney characters were definitely, offensively and deliberately parodied, this time by an underground cartoonist named Dan O'Neill.
Has anyone out there ever heard of Air Pirates Funnies? It was a two-issue underground comic first published in 1971 by O' Neill and a few other cartoonists (all of whom called themselves the "Air Pirates"). It not only parodied Mickey and Minnie Mouse and other Disney characters, it also put them in scenarios that were definitely NOT kid-friendly. :(
It was also the subject of a lawsuit by Disney that dragged on for several years, a lawsuit that O' Neill wanted to happen, amazingly enough---he even had the nerve to have copies of Air Pirates smuggled into a Disney board meeting. >:(
I had already read about it in World Encyclopedia of Comics by Maurice Horn 30 years ago, but here's a Wiki article about it. Sort of makes what South Park did mild by comparison....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Pirates#Lawsuit
Timoro
It's commonly accepted and generally admissible to have sort of cameo appearances of different characters on TV-shows, movies, comics etc, even though you haven't created them by yourself. Especially if there is no intend to do it defamatory manner. If you have read Sam's Strip, a classic comic strip by Mort Walker and Jerry Dumas, you know what I mean. It was built on the premiss that all kinds of comics charaters appears on that strip. http://www.toonopedia.com/samstrip.htm
To make WHOLE comic or movie or such basing on other characters than your own, it's different matter. Air Pirates for examaple.

Timo
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