Quote from user: ScroogefanFinally, in the story "Amelia e l'antenata strega per forza" Magica tells a story about her ancestor who disliked using magic. http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL+2228-2
Yes! This is the story I mentioned above. Her ancestor who was the FOUNDER of DeSpell clan and who saved Scrooges ancestor and his kinghdom. Magica tells Scrooge the story hoping he will give her the dime as gratitude (which in retrospect is propably the only time I recall Magical trying to get the dime by using non-villanus plan) It's actually interesting mix since Magica's ancestor is the good guy while Scrooges ancestor is more-or-less the bad guy.
I have the story in my collection so I'll try to dig it up and sent the scan of Magica's ancestor as well her boyfriend (who most likley was her husband in the future making him Magicas ancestor as well). I didn't remembered in which volume it was but since you post the link I can easly find it now :)
P.S. To be fair as far I recall Magicas ancestor was identical to Magica BTW
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Topic: My De Spell family tree
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Mr. M
My De Spell family tree
Message 16 -
2014-05-02 at 23:48:54
Scroogefan
My De Spell family tree
Message 17 -
2014-05-03 at 00:49:08
Very interesting summary of the story Mr. M. It sounds like the kind of story that I would probably enjoy reading.
That's cool. I'm sure that Scroogerello would probably appreciate any pictures of Magica's relatives that can be added to the family tree.
I have noticed that some of Magica's other ancestors look identical to her also. Although this is often the case with other ducks too. Scrooge, Donald, H.D.&L, Brigitta, etc.
That's cool. I'm sure that Scroogerello would probably appreciate any pictures of Magica's relatives that can be added to the family tree.
I have noticed that some of Magica's other ancestors look identical to her also. Although this is often the case with other ducks too. Scrooge, Donald, H.D.&L, Brigitta, etc.
Mr. M
My De Spell family tree
Message 18 -
2014-05-03 at 00:54:03
Ta-da! (Gyro tip : click on the pictures to get much bigger scans)
http://s22.postimg.org/72qzbsg1p/magika01.jpg
So this is Magikonia (Magiconia ?), Magica's ancestor, the founder of DeSpell clan who didn't care much for magic and finds it boring. She was out-cast among the witches.
http://s22.postimg.org/p6yla633x/Magica_02.jpg
And this is her grandmother (yet another ancestor). I find her desing to be pretty cool....
http://s22.postimg.org/4o3p53p6l/Magica_03.jpg
[Cynical mode] And check out her magic power of having glasses in one panel and then none in the next one [/Cynical mode]
Owww, just look how cute they look together in the last panel. (Sorry for bad quality of some of the scans BTW...)
http://s22.postimg.org/6whvmfwal/MAGICA_06.jpg
Ow and she falls in love with this pestant dude named Kwaccini [Quaccini ?] The story sugest they got married (so he is Magica's ancestor as well) They build their house under Mt. vesuvius (which appear to be Magica's future house)
NOTE : At the begining Marco Mazarello (the artists) tries to make Magikonia distinguish from Magica and gave her a diffrent haristyle and a hood but they get ignore after first few pages and she looks identical as Magica.
http://s22.postimg.org/fq8s3jj99/MAGICA_05.jpg
Kwaccini also gaves Magikonia a pet raven as a gift... Which sugests it was first raven in history of DeSpell family and maybe ancestor to Ratface.
http://s27.postimg.org/wfx532fin/magica07.jpg
As I mentioned I find it interesting that in the story Scrooges ancestor named Skneron (Scroogeron ?) is a greedy prince (not a king as I wrongly stated above) and when I say "greedy" I mean "Full-Glomgold mode", who dosen't care about his pesants, with small redeeming qualities shown at the end, while Magikonia is a noble heroine who stands up for the people. Scrooges ancestor isn't the main villian of the story but still... It's like reading a bizzare fanfiction.
http://s22.postimg.org/g1q8gazp9/Magica_04.jpg
By the way - I love how nice and casual Magica is when she tells the story while the boys appear to enjoy it. Their all like "Bah! Let's ignore the fact where sworn enemies! It's story telling time!" ;)
Magica also say "I'm the last descendant of Magikonia".... but that would be hard with all those nieces and cousins around ;)
http://s22.postimg.org/72qzbsg1p/magika01.jpg
So this is Magikonia (Magiconia ?), Magica's ancestor, the founder of DeSpell clan who didn't care much for magic and finds it boring. She was out-cast among the witches.
http://s22.postimg.org/p6yla633x/Magica_02.jpg
And this is her grandmother (yet another ancestor). I find her desing to be pretty cool....
http://s22.postimg.org/4o3p53p6l/Magica_03.jpg
[Cynical mode] And check out her magic power of having glasses in one panel and then none in the next one [/Cynical mode]
Owww, just look how cute they look together in the last panel. (Sorry for bad quality of some of the scans BTW...)
http://s22.postimg.org/6whvmfwal/MAGICA_06.jpg
Ow and she falls in love with this pestant dude named Kwaccini [Quaccini ?] The story sugest they got married (so he is Magica's ancestor as well) They build their house under Mt. vesuvius (which appear to be Magica's future house)
NOTE : At the begining Marco Mazarello (the artists) tries to make Magikonia distinguish from Magica and gave her a diffrent haristyle and a hood but they get ignore after first few pages and she looks identical as Magica.
http://s22.postimg.org/fq8s3jj99/MAGICA_05.jpg
Kwaccini also gaves Magikonia a pet raven as a gift... Which sugests it was first raven in history of DeSpell family and maybe ancestor to Ratface.
http://s27.postimg.org/wfx532fin/magica07.jpg
As I mentioned I find it interesting that in the story Scrooges ancestor named Skneron (Scroogeron ?) is a greedy prince (not a king as I wrongly stated above) and when I say "greedy" I mean "Full-Glomgold mode", who dosen't care about his pesants, with small redeeming qualities shown at the end, while Magikonia is a noble heroine who stands up for the people. Scrooges ancestor isn't the main villian of the story but still... It's like reading a bizzare fanfiction.
http://s22.postimg.org/g1q8gazp9/Magica_04.jpg
By the way - I love how nice and casual Magica is when she tells the story while the boys appear to enjoy it. Their all like "Bah! Let's ignore the fact where sworn enemies! It's story telling time!" ;)
Magica also say "I'm the last descendant of Magikonia".... but that would be hard with all those nieces and cousins around ;)
Matilda
My De Spell family tree
Message 19 -
2014-05-03 at 03:05:59
Where is Tragica from? I can't find her on Inducks.
Mr. M, thanks for your scans and reviews. I will have to try to get the French version of the story with child-Magica and her grandfather in the flashback. I already have the German version of the one about Magica's ancestor Magikonia (in German she's Gustel, because Magica is Gundel Gaukeley--I really hate her name in German!).
Mr. M, thanks for your scans and reviews. I will have to try to get the French version of the story with child-Magica and her grandfather in the flashback. I already have the German version of the one about Magica's ancestor Magikonia (in German she's Gustel, because Magica is Gundel Gaukeley--I really hate her name in German!).
Scroogefan
My De Spell family tree
Message 20 -
2014-05-03 at 05:02:29
Matilda - Tragica was only made reference to, but never seen, once, in the Duck Tales episode "Magica's Magic Mirror" alongside the episode "Take Me Out of the Ballgame". In this episode Magica uses two trick mirrors to convince Scrooge to give her his old number one dime. Magica mentions that the mirrors belonged to her "Great Grandma Tragica". As far as I know Tragica has never been mentioned or used in any comic stories. So she wouldn't be listed on INDUCKS. It would be cool to see a picture or learn more about her though. I'm kind of surprised no one has ever used her in a comic story before.
Ramapith
My De Spell family tree
Message 21 -
2014-05-03 at 07:33:45
Quote from user: ScroogefanWhile I haven't read the stories that Carolina De Spell appears in I will agree that she certainly looks nothing like Granny De Spell. I agree that it seems more likely that Carolina De Spell and Granny De Spell are different characters.
They may look different, but they really are different versions of the same character; both are called "Nonna Caraldina" in Italian.
In "Great Puddles of Badness!" the cousin is named Lucretia, but while both Magica and Mim call her "cousin," she appears to only be Mim's actual cousin??she's a human with Mim-like nose and teeth.
They may look different, but they really are different versions of the same character; both are called "Nonna Caraldina" in Italian.
In "Great Puddles of Badness!" the cousin is named Lucretia, but while both Magica and Mim call her "cousin," she appears to only be Mim's actual cousin??she's a human with Mim-like nose and teeth.
Scroogerello
My De Spell family tree
Message 22 -
2014-05-03 at 09:33:24
Wow, Mr. M, thank you very much for the scans of Magica's relatives! Magica's grandpa was very important for my tree (I've placed him om the tree as Tragica's son, Gerlinde's brother and Granny's husband, by the name 'Grandpa De Spell'). The scans of Magica's ancestors are awesome as well, but I don't know whether I'll find a way to include them in the tree.
Quote from user: ramapithQuote from user: ScroogefanWhile I haven't read the stories that Carolina De Spell appears in I will agree that she certainly looks nothing like Granny De Spell. I agree that it seems more likely that Carolina De Spell and Granny De Spell are different characters.
They may look different, but they really are different versions of the same character; both are called "Nonna Caraldina" in Italian.
In fact, Granny is called 'Nonna Amelia' in Italian.
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?normalsize=1&image=http://outducks.org/webusers/webusers-char0/it_gcd_300f_002_grannydespell.jpg
Quote from user: ramapithQuote from user: ScroogefanWhile I haven't read the stories that Carolina De Spell appears in I will agree that she certainly looks nothing like Granny De Spell. I agree that it seems more likely that Carolina De Spell and Granny De Spell are different characters.
They may look different, but they really are different versions of the same character; both are called "Nonna Caraldina" in Italian.
In fact, Granny is called 'Nonna Amelia' in Italian.
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?normalsize=1&image=http://outducks.org/webusers/webusers-char0/it_gcd_300f_002_grannydespell.jpg
Scroogerello
My De Spell family tree
Message 23 -
2014-05-03 at 11:04:02
Now that I think of it, I remember an ancestor of Magica who appeared in a story from my own collection. She looked very much like Magica (she even had the same name, I think) and she was said to be her great-great-great grandmother or something. It's from this story: http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL+1940-C
Mr. M
My De Spell family tree
Message 24 -
2014-05-03 at 12:03:22
Quote from user: ScroogerelloWow, Mr. M, thank you very much for the scans of Magica's relatives! Magica's grandpa was very important for my tree (I've placed him om the tree as Tragica's son, Gerlinde's brother and Granny's husband, by the name 'Grandpa De Spell'). The scans of Magica's ancestors are awesome as well, but I don't know whether I'll find a way to include them in the tree.
You welcome.
To be honest you can put Magica's Ancestor same way as Roda did with McDuck ancestors in his three. And you can include Hocus and Pocus same way as Gilles Maurice included Webby and Buba in his duck family three...
But that's your family three ;) I just throwing sugestions ;)
P.S. So who is Matilda de Spell? I recall seeing the character but I don't remember from which story she is..
You welcome.
To be honest you can put Magica's Ancestor same way as Roda did with McDuck ancestors in his three. And you can include Hocus and Pocus same way as Gilles Maurice included Webby and Buba in his duck family three...
But that's your family three ;) I just throwing sugestions ;)
P.S. So who is Matilda de Spell? I recall seeing the character but I don't remember from which story she is..
Scroogerello
My De Spell family tree
Message 25 -
2014-05-03 at 13:52:53
Quote from user: Mr. MQuote from user: ScroogerelloWow, Mr. M, thank you very much for the scans of Magica's relatives! Magica's grandpa was very important for my tree (I've placed him om the tree as Tragica's son, Gerlinde's brother and Granny's husband, by the name 'Grandpa De Spell'). The scans of Magica's ancestors are awesome as well, but I don't know whether I'll find a way to include them in the tree.
You welcome.
To be honest you can put Magica's Ancestor same way as Roda did with McDuck ancestors in his three.
I don't know for sure who 'Roda' is, but of course it would be cool if there would be a way to place the ancestors on the tree without too much complications.
Quote from user: Mr. MP.S. So who is Matilda de Spell? I recall seeing the character but I don't remember from which story she is..
This is the link to her INDUCKS page: http://coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=Witch%20Matilda&view=1.
By the way, does anybody know whether Magica's father appeared in any story? Or that he's mentoined somewhere? He's the only very important character missing on the tree. And does anybody know more about Magica's uncle 'Gianni' from this story?
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL+3035-5
You welcome.
To be honest you can put Magica's Ancestor same way as Roda did with McDuck ancestors in his three.
I don't know for sure who 'Roda' is, but of course it would be cool if there would be a way to place the ancestors on the tree without too much complications.
Quote from user: Mr. MP.S. So who is Matilda de Spell? I recall seeing the character but I don't remember from which story she is..
This is the link to her INDUCKS page: http://coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=Witch%20Matilda&view=1.
By the way, does anybody know whether Magica's father appeared in any story? Or that he's mentoined somewhere? He's the only very important character missing on the tree. And does anybody know more about Magica's uncle 'Gianni' from this story?
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL+3035-5
Mr. M
My De Spell family tree
Message 26 -
2014-05-03 at 15:14:53
Quote from user: ScroogerelloI don't know for sure who 'Roda' is, but of course it would be cool if there would be a way to place the ancestors on the tree without too much complications.
AH!!!! I ment "Rosa"! Stupid fingers...
Quote:This is the link to her INDUCKS page: http://coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=Witch%20Matilda&view=1.
Thanks :) Looks like DeSpell version of Gosalyn...
P.S.
Also, another guy with crush on Magica...
http://coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=Rosolio&view=2
AH!!!! I ment "Rosa"! Stupid fingers...
Quote:This is the link to her INDUCKS page: http://coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=Witch%20Matilda&view=1.
Thanks :) Looks like DeSpell version of Gosalyn...
P.S.
Also, another guy with crush on Magica...
http://coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=Rosolio&view=2
Ramapith
My De Spell family tree
Message 27 -
2014-05-03 at 16:22:42
Quote from user: ScroogerelloQuote from user: ramapith[Granny and "Carolina"] may look different, but they really are different versions of the same character; both are called "Nonna Caraldina" in Italian.
In fact, Granny is called 'Nonna Amelia' in Italian.
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?normalsize=1&image=http://outducks.org/webusers/webusers-char0/it_gcd_300f_002_grannydespell.jpg
Well, I'll be damned??I'm sorry. I'm 100% unused to giving clumsily incorrect information. But it looks like I was wrong: there's Granny, and she's definitely called "Amelia" there.
And yet... I could swear I have seen the original Granny translated as "Caraldina" in some Italian publication. Any Italians reading this?
In fact, Granny is called 'Nonna Amelia' in Italian.
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?normalsize=1&image=http://outducks.org/webusers/webusers-char0/it_gcd_300f_002_grannydespell.jpg
Well, I'll be damned??I'm sorry. I'm 100% unused to giving clumsily incorrect information. But it looks like I was wrong: there's Granny, and she's definitely called "Amelia" there.
And yet... I could swear I have seen the original Granny translated as "Caraldina" in some Italian publication. Any Italians reading this?
Scroogefan
My De Spell family tree
Message 28 -
2014-05-03 at 17:50:16
Thanks for all the information about Granny De Spell guys. It is a bit confusing since the two versions of Granny look so different. Plus I don't believe either version of this character has ever been in a story that was translated or published in English.
To Ramapith - Thanks for the information about Mim's cousin Lucretia. I did think that she looked more like Mim than Magica. The reason I thought that she was Magica's cousin was because the description of the story listed Lucretia as Magica's cousin on Inducks. Someone really should correct that.
To Ramapith - Thanks for the information about Mim's cousin Lucretia. I did think that she looked more like Mim than Magica. The reason I thought that she was Magica's cousin was because the description of the story listed Lucretia as Magica's cousin on Inducks. Someone really should correct that.
Cacou
My De Spell family tree
Message 29 -
2014-05-03 at 20:26:21
If there are there any recurring characters missing in Inducks, feel free to tell me so I can add them, or at least pass it to the right indexer.
"Recurring" heare means that the character appears in at least 2 stories.
"Recurring" heare means that the character appears in at least 2 stories.
Scroogerello
My De Spell family tree
Message 30 -
2014-05-05 at 11:12:21
The updated version of the tree:
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a481/RalphduM/DeSpell_zps27f43b96.jpghttp://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a481/RalphduM/DeSpellAncestors_zps7ab845a7.jpg
I'm still trying to find a way to include the ancestors-section in the tree itself, but the computer programme I'm using doesn't allow the page to be stretched out.
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a481/RalphduM/DeSpell_zps27f43b96.jpghttp://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a481/RalphduM/DeSpellAncestors_zps7ab845a7.jpg
I'm still trying to find a way to include the ancestors-section in the tree itself, but the computer programme I'm using doesn't allow the page to be stretched out.