Quote from user: Kurt AppelGuido Martina who is a kind of second father of the Ducks who also had his own ideas about their characters.
...his own bad ideas. :P
Even within the context of Martina's oeuvre, though, Scrooge and Gladstone's villainy is pretty clearly exaggerated because otherwise they couldn't be the antagonists in a story like this. To me, that's not how a literary adaptation should be.
(To be clear, I do like some of Martina's writing, but boy oh boy--there is nothing but nothing in the Disneyverse worse than one of his lesser efforts, of which there are many.)
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Topic: Disney Literature Classics...at WalMart?
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GeoX
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Message 16 -
2013-08-13 at 03:56:56
Kurt Appel
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Message 17 -
2013-08-13 at 07:32:04
Martina who had an immense knowledge of world literature and also of the Disney universe wrote hundreds of stories, among them masterpieces and (especially in his last period) trash. But that counts also for the great master Barks who wrote a lot of weak stories in his last period. If you really want to know what is trash you have to look at the Disney oversea program (S Story coded) or at the late Western Production etc.
Quote from user: GeoXQuote from user: Kurt AppelGuido Martina who is a kind of second father of the Ducks who also had his own ideas about their characters.
...his own bad ideas. :P
Even within the context of Martina's oeuvre, though, Scrooge and Gladstone's villainy is pretty clearly exaggerated because otherwise they couldn't be the antagonists in a story like this. To me, that's not how a literary adaptation should be.
(To be clear, I do like some of Martina's writing, but boy oh boy--there is nothing but nothing in the Disneyverse worse than one of his lesser efforts, of which there are many.)
Quote from user: GeoXQuote from user: Kurt AppelGuido Martina who is a kind of second father of the Ducks who also had his own ideas about their characters.
...his own bad ideas. :P
Even within the context of Martina's oeuvre, though, Scrooge and Gladstone's villainy is pretty clearly exaggerated because otherwise they couldn't be the antagonists in a story like this. To me, that's not how a literary adaptation should be.
(To be clear, I do like some of Martina's writing, but boy oh boy--there is nothing but nothing in the Disneyverse worse than one of his lesser efforts, of which there are many.)
RancidDuck
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Message 18 -
2013-08-16 at 09:44:37
Quote from user: DebbieThey were on a table of bargain books, along with a few volumes of another Paperview book set, Disney's Wonderful World of Knowledge (a non-comic related book series). They only had the two titles I mentioned earlier. Both books have nice artwork, although neither is perfect. The Three Musketeers is quite energetically drawn, but often goes wildly off model. Daisy Duck in the Land of Oz stays on model, but the characters expressions don't always fit what they're saying. That said, they are nice examples of longer foreign Disney material (and no worse than Around the World in 80 Bucks or Moldfinger).
Thanks for the location of these. After your first post I checked and couldn't find anything. Then I checked the bargain table and there they were, the same two volumes that you found along with the Knowledge books. They were underneath a stack of the Knowledge books, so I moved them to the top hoping others will find them, just in case this is a test with these two to see how they will sell. Wouldn't mind getting the whole set of these. I was also surprised as to the size of these books(larger than I expected).
I live in Virginia so it seems that they have spread them around and have a fairly large surplus of the books.
Thanks for the location of these. After your first post I checked and couldn't find anything. Then I checked the bargain table and there they were, the same two volumes that you found along with the Knowledge books. They were underneath a stack of the Knowledge books, so I moved them to the top hoping others will find them, just in case this is a test with these two to see how they will sell. Wouldn't mind getting the whole set of these. I was also surprised as to the size of these books(larger than I expected).
I live in Virginia so it seems that they have spread them around and have a fairly large surplus of the books.
Morequack
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Message 19 -
2013-08-16 at 15:48:44
I came across these thanks to AzureBlue who mentioned them to me when I was reminiscing about the first Duck story I ever read as a kid, "Donald Duck on Treasure Island." I bought about 6 of them (the Duck ones that I thought were the best stories) from a seller on Ebay. These stories are reprints of old (1950-1960s) Italian stories and most are quite good. I paid about $5-6 each and I doubt they can typically be found in any store in the U.S.
I'm still on the hunt for #17, "Donald's Odyssey" which is another great story that I had read as a kid in a Greek translation from the Italian. I still have the Greek version from 1968 in 2 parts: http://coa.inducks.org/issue.php?c=gr/MM+++84#b
I'm still on the hunt for #17, "Donald's Odyssey" which is another great story that I had read as a kid in a Greek translation from the Italian. I still have the Greek version from 1968 in 2 parts: http://coa.inducks.org/issue.php?c=gr/MM+++84#b
Debbie
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Message 20 -
2013-08-17 at 03:26:49
To be honest, I really don't know how these books would go over with the Walmart crowd, who would likely be expecting storybooks rather than a pair of really odd Italian Donald and Scrooge comic books. Having read them both, "farce" seems a better word than "parody" to describe "The Three Musketeers" book where things just seem to happen sometimes for no reason, and I don't know WHAT you'd call "Daisy Duck in the World of Oz", as it really just plays out like a really weird Scrooge vs. Rockerduck story where Scrooge and his nephews get sent to "another planet", (the "Oz" of our title) to fulfill an oddly written contract that says that Scrooge's land reverts to the land owner once Scrooge has left this world. It really didn't remind me of The Wizard of Oz at all. For collectors, these are a rare glimpse at stories that were (justifiably) skipped by previous US Disney licensees, but I think the general public would find them just weird and poorly written.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
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Message 21 -
2013-08-20 at 20:40:48
Quote from user: DebbieTo be honest, I really don't know how these books would go over with the Walmart crowd, who would likely be expecting storybooks rather than a pair of really odd Italian Donald and Scrooge comic books. Having read them both, "farce" seems a better word than "parody" to describe "The Three Musketeers" book where things just seem to happen sometimes for no reason, and I don't know WHAT you'd call "Daisy Duck in the World of Oz", as it really just plays out like a really weird Scrooge vs. Rockerduck story where Scrooge and his nephews get sent to "another planet", (the "Oz" of our title) to fulfill an oddly written contract that says that Scrooge's land reverts to the land owner once Scrooge has left this world. It really didn't remind me of The Wizard of Oz at all. For collectors, these are a rare glimpse at stories that were (justifiably) skipped by previous US Disney licensees, but I think the general public would find them just weird and poorly written.
They are weird and poorly written, but that's part of what makes them so fascinating! I guess Martina is my 'guilty pleasure' in that way. He comes up with some pretty random things in his stories, often happening for no reason. I can't help but be fascinated by the sheer badness that went into it.
They are weird and poorly written, but that's part of what makes them so fascinating! I guess Martina is my 'guilty pleasure' in that way. He comes up with some pretty random things in his stories, often happening for no reason. I can't help but be fascinated by the sheer badness that went into it.
Debbie
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Message 22 -
2013-08-20 at 21:25:45
Well, so far not only has our local WalMart not gotten in any more of these books, it's beginning to look like I'm the only person who bought any of them. On the other hand, the Knowledge Library volumes have been selling, as there were fewer of them when I checked back today. If it is an experiment to see if these books will sell, I fear it is a failed one. I would happily have bought more of these weird books. (I guess I must miss classic-style Disney comics to be willing to slog through bizzare stories like "Daisy Duck in the Land of Oz" with nonsensical stories and often incomprehensible scripts to get my Disney fix.) They are a bit of a 'guilty pleasure', like you've said.
Garbanzo
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Message 23 -
2013-08-20 at 21:32:32
Buy the rest up and put them on eBay, I'll purchase a set from you :)
GeoX
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Message 24 -
2013-08-20 at 22:12:58
Favorite bad translation in these things: when they refer to Scrooge's Money Bin as his "warehouse." Took me an embarrassing amount of time to realize what the hell they were on about.
Ramapith
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Message 25 -
2013-08-21 at 05:16:09
This is because there's no tradition of the Money Bin having a consistent name in the UK comics! For many years it was Scrooge's "private bank"; no kidding!
GeoX
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Message 26 -
2013-08-21 at 07:24:35
Hah! That's funny. Anyone know the literal name of the bin in Italian? My assumption would be that the DCL translations would've just mindlessly reproduced that.
Timoro
Disney Literature Classics...at WalMart?
Message 27 -
2013-08-21 at 09:02:11
As far as I know it is called Il Deposito. Il Deposito de' Paperoni.
Timo
Timo
Morequack
Disney Literature Classics...at WalMart?
Message 28 -
2013-08-21 at 16:27:48
Quote from user: ramapithThis is because there's no tradition of the Money Bin having a consistent name in the UK comics! For many years it was Scrooge's "private bank"; no kidding!
Well, how about using the obvious name that Barks had used since the 50s: "Money Bin." Hello!? LOL!
Well, how about using the obvious name that Barks had used since the 50s: "Money Bin." Hello!? LOL!
GeoX
Disney Literature Classics...at WalMart?
Message 29 -
2013-08-21 at 18:55:46
Quote from user: timoroAs far as I know it is called Il Deposito. Il Deposito de' Paperoni.
Ha! So it looks like I was right. To be fair, that's a pretty generic sounding name to my ears (Italian speakers can correct me if there are connotations I'm missing).
Ha! So it looks like I was right. To be fair, that's a pretty generic sounding name to my ears (Italian speakers can correct me if there are connotations I'm missing).
PhantomDuck
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Message 30 -
2013-09-06 at 00:11:30
Quote from user: MorequackI'm still on the hunt for #17, "Donald's Odyssey" which is another great story that I had read as a kid in a Greek translation from the Italian. I still have the Greek version from 1968 in 2 parts: http://coa.inducks.org/issue.php?c=gr/MM+++84#b
Wow, that is a rare issue, let alone for a US citizen. How did you get it ? I have read the story from a more recent issue, but I feel like Pier Lorenzo De Vita's design destroys Martina's story. Without doubt, one of my least favorite Disney comic artists.
Wow, that is a rare issue, let alone for a US citizen. How did you get it ? I have read the story from a more recent issue, but I feel like Pier Lorenzo De Vita's design destroys Martina's story. Without doubt, one of my least favorite Disney comic artists.