Quote from user: MatildaQuote from user: SimHow are Duncan McDuck (D 8824) and Ringtail Van Dukke (H 88041) related to Scrooge?
Sim
And speaking of Duncans, D 8824 features Cousin Bruce McDuck, not a Duncan, right? (Sorry if I'm the one getting confused, here...)
Are you interested in other ghost/ancestors? In Guido Martina's The Ghost's Castle (I TL 1326 A), there is an ancestor of Scrooge named in Italian (according to the Italian summary on INDUCKS) Gideon McPaper, and in German (that's what I have) Gideon McDuck--which is interesting, because Scrooge's last name in German is Duck, not McDuck! Apparently they want you to think that Scrooge dropped the "Mc" in America.... No relationship to Scrooge is specified; Gideon lived at the time of Mary, Queen of Scots, and Queen Elizabeth I of England.
You are right, Duncan is from H 86230.
Thank you, I didn't know about Gideon.
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Sim
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Message 31 -
2012-03-19 at 13:01:18
Sim
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Message 32 -
2012-03-20 at 17:33:11
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderQuote from user: SimAnd how has been "mijn verre oud-achterneef" translated in USA?
Thank you. :)
A "verre oud-achterneef" would be a "distant great-cousin once removed".
I tried to put him in the tree with this relation, but he would be in Quackmore's generation (and his nephews in Donald's)! And I checked, that's the same relation Ludwig has with Don!
Look at it by yourself:
DONALD DUCK RINGTAIL'S NEPHEWS
| |
| |
QUACKMORE RINGTAIL VANDUKKE
| ________|_______
| | |
HUMPERDINK D. I'LLFINDANAME I'LLFINDANAME PINCHPENNY
| | |__________|
| |
GREAT-GRANDFATHER DONALD I'LLFINDANAME
|___________________________|
|
OLD GRANDPA
Thank you. :)
A "verre oud-achterneef" would be a "distant great-cousin once removed".
I tried to put him in the tree with this relation, but he would be in Quackmore's generation (and his nephews in Donald's)! And I checked, that's the same relation Ludwig has with Don!
Look at it by yourself:
DONALD DUCK RINGTAIL'S NEPHEWS
| |
| |
QUACKMORE RINGTAIL VANDUKKE
| ________|_______
| | |
HUMPERDINK D. I'LLFINDANAME I'LLFINDANAME PINCHPENNY
| | |__________|
| |
GREAT-GRANDFATHER DONALD I'LLFINDANAME
|___________________________|
|
OLD GRANDPA
Sim
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Message 33 -
2012-03-21 at 17:11:27
According to the I.N.D.U.C.K.S, in W DD 114-05, a Mel Mallard appears. Is he aunt Tizzy's husband? Is he related to Duck Family? What about Mel Mallard in DuckTales (or was it QuackPack?)?
Lars Jensen
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Message 34 -
2012-03-21 at 17:17:54
Quote from user: SimAccording to the I.N.D.U.C.K.S, in W DD 114-05, a Mel Mallard appears. Is he aunt Tizzy's husband?
He's an old schoolmate of Donald's.
He's an old schoolmate of Donald's.
Sim
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Message 35 -
2012-03-21 at 17:49:58
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimAccording to the I.N.D.U.C.K.S, in W DD 114-05, a Mel Mallard appears. Is he aunt Tizzy's husband?
He's an old schoolmate of Donald's.
Thank you, Lars.
He's an old schoolmate of Donald's.
Thank you, Lars.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
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Message 36 -
2012-03-22 at 20:19:18
Quote from user: SimQuote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderQuote from user: SimAnd how has been "mijn verre oud-achterneef" translated in USA?
Thank you. :)
A "verre oud-achterneef" would be a "distant great-cousin once removed".
I tried to put him in the tree with this relation, but he would be in Quackmore's generation (and his nephews in Donald's)! And I checked, that's the same relation Ludwig has with Don!
I see. The problem is, "verre oud-achterneef" isn't a real term and can be interpreted in many ways. If he's a distant cousin, I think he might be a cousin of an ancestor of Donald who lived in pirate times.
Thank you. :)
A "verre oud-achterneef" would be a "distant great-cousin once removed".
I tried to put him in the tree with this relation, but he would be in Quackmore's generation (and his nephews in Donald's)! And I checked, that's the same relation Ludwig has with Don!
I see. The problem is, "verre oud-achterneef" isn't a real term and can be interpreted in many ways. If he's a distant cousin, I think he might be a cousin of an ancestor of Donald who lived in pirate times.
Sim
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Message 37 -
2012-04-09 at 19:44:05
In H 95043, another relative comes out: Ignatius Verwoerd.
According to the Dutch version, he is Scrooge's "bet-achter-oudoom"... In your opinion, is "Great-great-granduncle" good enough?
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/thumbnails3/webusers/2008/01/nl_dd1996_41c_001.jpg&normalsize=1
According to the Dutch version, he is Scrooge's "bet-achter-oudoom"... In your opinion, is "Great-great-granduncle" good enough?
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/thumbnails3/webusers/2008/01/nl_dd1996_41c_001.jpg&normalsize=1
Sim
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Message 38 -
2012-04-09 at 19:48:59
Quote from user: MatildaQuote from user: SimQuote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderIn I TL 1988-E, Scrooge endlessly tries to make Donald more thrifty. As Donald becomes increasingly frustrated with this, he decides to give Scrooge a taste of his own medicine and invites Scrooge's own uncle over, who is even thriftier than Scrooge himself. In Dutch, this uncle is called Schraalhans. Another character for your tree.
I already knew.
In Italy he is simply called "MacPaperon" (McDuck), I chose Duncan as his first name.
Wait, you can't call this character Duncan McDuck--there's already another Duncan McDuck, since "Duncan Duck" of H 86230 got turned into Duncan McDuck in the Netherlands, Norway and the USA.
Well, how would you call him, then?
I already knew.
In Italy he is simply called "MacPaperon" (McDuck), I chose Duncan as his first name.
Wait, you can't call this character Duncan McDuck--there's already another Duncan McDuck, since "Duncan Duck" of H 86230 got turned into Duncan McDuck in the Netherlands, Norway and the USA.
Well, how would you call him, then?
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
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Message 39 -
2012-04-10 at 13:02:29
Quote from user: SimIn H 95043, another relative comes out: Ignatius Verwoerd.
According to the Dutch version, he is Scrooge's "bet-achter-oudoom"... In your opinion, is "Great-great-granduncle" good enough?
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/thumbnails3/webusers/2008/01/nl_dd1996_41c_001.jpg&normalsize=1
Sigh... let's see... this is untranslatable. "Bet" would indicate "great-great-grand", achter is removed and oudoom is great uncle. The closest I could think of is a cousin of Scrooge's great-great-grandfather. Yes, that's it.
According to the Dutch version, he is Scrooge's "bet-achter-oudoom"... In your opinion, is "Great-great-granduncle" good enough?
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/thumbnails3/webusers/2008/01/nl_dd1996_41c_001.jpg&normalsize=1
Sigh... let's see... this is untranslatable. "Bet" would indicate "great-great-grand", achter is removed and oudoom is great uncle. The closest I could think of is a cousin of Scrooge's great-great-grandfather. Yes, that's it.
Matilda
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Message 40 -
2012-04-10 at 17:50:43
Quote from user: SimQuote from user: MatildaQuote from user: SimI already knew.
In Italy he is simply called "MacPaperon" (McDuck), I chose Duncan as his first name.
Wait, you can't call this character Duncan McDuck--there's already another Duncan McDuck, since "Duncan Duck" of H 86230 got turned into Duncan McDuck in the Netherlands, Norway and the USA.
Well, how would you call him, then?
Oh, I don't know--pick some Scottish name that's not already used. (Of course, in an actual family, first names would get re-used over the generations, but in this case, I think it's better to keep each character's name unique, to reduce confusion.) Alastair (that one can be spelled at least seven different ways)? Robbie (as in Robbie Burns)? Gavin? Tavish? Gordon? You can google "Scottish boy names" for ideas.
In Italy he is simply called "MacPaperon" (McDuck), I chose Duncan as his first name.
Wait, you can't call this character Duncan McDuck--there's already another Duncan McDuck, since "Duncan Duck" of H 86230 got turned into Duncan McDuck in the Netherlands, Norway and the USA.
Well, how would you call him, then?
Oh, I don't know--pick some Scottish name that's not already used. (Of course, in an actual family, first names would get re-used over the generations, but in this case, I think it's better to keep each character's name unique, to reduce confusion.) Alastair (that one can be spelled at least seven different ways)? Robbie (as in Robbie Burns)? Gavin? Tavish? Gordon? You can google "Scottish boy names" for ideas.
Sim
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Message 41 -
2012-04-10 at 17:56:09
Quote from user: MatildaQuote from user: SimQuote from user: MatildaWait, you can't call this character Duncan McDuck--there's already another Duncan McDuck, since "Duncan Duck" of H 86230 got turned into Duncan McDuck in the Netherlands, Norway and the USA.
Well, how would you call him, then?
Oh, I don't know--pick some Scottish name that's not already used. (Of course, in an actual family, first names would get re-used over the generations, but in this case, I think it's better to keep each character's name unique, to reduce confusion.) Alastair (that one can be spelled at least seven different ways)? Robbie (as in Robbie Burns)? Gavin? Tavish? Gordon? You can google "Scottish boy names" for ideas.
I think Alastair is good. ;)
Well, how would you call him, then?
Oh, I don't know--pick some Scottish name that's not already used. (Of course, in an actual family, first names would get re-used over the generations, but in this case, I think it's better to keep each character's name unique, to reduce confusion.) Alastair (that one can be spelled at least seven different ways)? Robbie (as in Robbie Burns)? Gavin? Tavish? Gordon? You can google "Scottish boy names" for ideas.
I think Alastair is good. ;)
Sim
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Message 42 -
2012-04-29 at 11:48:45
What are the names of Scrooge's ancestors in S 86182? (not uncle Gummo)
Lars Jensen
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Message 43 -
2012-04-29 at 12:20:40
Quote from user: SimWhat are the names of Scrooge's ancestors in S 86182? (not uncle Gummo)
They aren't named.
They aren't named.
Sim
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Message 44 -
2012-04-29 at 18:55:29
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimWhat are the names of Scrooge's ancestors in S 86182? (not uncle Gummo)
They aren't named.
I am pretty sure they are.
They aren't named.
I am pretty sure they are.
GeoX
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Message 45 -
2012-04-29 at 22:40:38
No, I just checked--unless their names were for some reason cut out of the US publication, they don't exist.