Quote from user: steetSo a lot of countries have stopped publishing Disney comics?
That's very, very sad, especially for children :( Because "superheroes" comics aren't as family/kid friendly as Donald/Mickey comics, and the other kids comics like Winnie or Cars are pure "marketing" products, to sell toys.
To me, the Disney comics need to be published in modern ways, ie computers, Ipad, phones etc... to be successful. Kids nowadays don't really care for printed content, they much prefer to read on screens because it attracts them.
I know Disney has tried that, but honestly, they don't put much efforts into it. No promotion, no support, expensive prices, limited availability...
If Disney did make it possible to buy comics on a regular PC computer, I would buy hundreds of comics!!!
Not sure, we were talking about Russia here, as I mentioned earlier, in most other countries these comics are doing pretty fine I think, especially in Europe.
As for computer versions of comics....Well, I am old-fashioned, I would never buy such a thing, I hate reading comics on a PC screen, it hurts your vision too and it will never be the same thing as holding a real book / magazine in your hands, browsing through pages, smelling them etc. But then, I am not a kid. On the other hand, pocket publications, for instance, are not exclusively aimed at kids. A lot of stories (the European ones) touch on a lot of adult themes, like war, psychology, even sexuality, which makes these stories more attractive to me. Personally, I am not a big fan of magazine (large format) stories that are, indeed, more kid-friendly. Still, it's sad to see the demise of Russia's only Disney publication about ducks/mice, kiddy or not. As for Cars/Toy Story etc, I hate it. Just like CG animation in general that IMO killed the art.
Rant of an old-fashioned, but not so old man is over. ;)
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Topic: Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
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Artemi
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 16 -
2012-01-21 at 18:43:46
Arild
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 17 -
2012-01-21 at 22:14:28
Quote from user: ArtemiNot sure, we were talking about Russia here, as I mentioned earlier, in most other countries these comics are doing pretty fine I think, especially in Europe.
I checked circulation numbers for some European countries last year. There is a decline almost all over.
(Some of the links might not work today.)
Norway:
Donald Duck & Co
1948: 40 000
1972: 176 759
1979: 250 000
1986: 250 000
1997: 174 792
1998: 171 681
1999: 173 733
2000: 163 915
2001: 151 977
2002: 144 214
2003: 137 999
2004: 130 099
2005: 122 326
2006: 117 926
2007: 111 367
2008: 99 216
2009: 87 449
2010: 72 454
Denmark:
Anders And & Co
1972: 219.688
1999: 90.500
2000: 79.486
2001: (1) 74.400 (2) 71.155
2004: 62.230
2005: 64.026
2006: 63.000
2007: (1) 60.754 (2) 56.601
2008: (1) 55.243 (2) 52.773
2009: (1) 48.101 (2) 43.318
2010: (1) 38.896 (2) 37.335
Sweden:
Kalle Anka & Co
1996: 124 900
2004: 133 000
2005: 120 000
2006: 106 000
2007: 92 000
2008: 83 000
2009: 71 900
2010: 65 300
Finland:
Akku Anka
Aku Ankka:
1975: 317.570
1997: 272 363
1998. 265 001
1999: 260 104
2000: 273 434
2001: 287 685
2002: 294 125
2003: 295 033
2004: 300 908
2005: 310 086
2006: 320 514
2007: 324 100
2008: 324 500
2009: 317 529
2010: 306 555
Germany:
Micky Maus
1992: ca 800 000
2000: 507 724
2003: 450 000
2007: 261 368
2008: 217 187
2009: 195.413
2010: (2) 176 968
2010: (4) 159 944
2011: (1) 171.503
2011: (2) 183.268
Netherlands:
Donald Duck
1952: 2 500 000 (free no. 1)
1952: ca. 150 000 (no. 2)
1955: 300 000
1969: 390 000
1974: 330 000
1977: 400 000
1980: 460 000
1996: 360 000
2000: 336 593
2001: 338 275
2002: 340 349
2003: 342 337
2004: 327 933
2005: 318 192
2006: 317 083
2007: (1) 315 987 (4) 312 202
2008: (1) 317 563 (4) 312 332
2008: 318 124
2009: (1) 317 821 (4) 311 864
2010: (1) 317 342 (3) 305 020 (4) 304 759
2011: (1) 306 984
Italy:
Topolino:
2001 - 2002: 330 998
2002 - 2003: 320 394
2003 - 2004: 319 265
2006 - 2007: 242 858
2008: 230 544
2009: 209 845
June 2009 - May 2010: 203 946
And this is what I found for WD comics in the USA:
comics distributed by Diamond to comic specialty stores during January 2011:
Uncle Scrooge #399 - 3388 pcs
WD Comics and Stories #715 - 3191 pcs
Mickey Mouse #304 - 3032 pcs
DD and friends #362 - 2599 pcs
(A little bit shocking, I must admit...Donald's home country!)
Couldn't find circulation numbers of BOOM comics from Haven Distributors.
Population:
Norway: 4 985 000
Denmark: 5 580 000
Sweden: 9 475 000
Finland: 5 400 000
Germany: 81 768 000
Netherlands: 16 715 000
Italy: 60 742 000
USA: 312 884 000
I checked circulation numbers for some European countries last year. There is a decline almost all over.
(Some of the links might not work today.)
Norway:
Donald Duck & Co
1948: 40 000
1972: 176 759
1979: 250 000
1986: 250 000
1997: 174 792
1998: 171 681
1999: 173 733
2000: 163 915
2001: 151 977
2002: 144 214
2003: 137 999
2004: 130 099
2005: 122 326
2006: 117 926
2007: 111 367
2008: 99 216
2009: 87 449
2010: 72 454
Denmark:
Anders And & Co
1972: 219.688
1999: 90.500
2000: 79.486
2001: (1) 74.400 (2) 71.155
2004: 62.230
2005: 64.026
2006: 63.000
2007: (1) 60.754 (2) 56.601
2008: (1) 55.243 (2) 52.773
2009: (1) 48.101 (2) 43.318
2010: (1) 38.896 (2) 37.335
Sweden:
Kalle Anka & Co
1996: 124 900
2004: 133 000
2005: 120 000
2006: 106 000
2007: 92 000
2008: 83 000
2009: 71 900
2010: 65 300
Finland:
Akku Anka
Aku Ankka:
1975: 317.570
1997: 272 363
1998. 265 001
1999: 260 104
2000: 273 434
2001: 287 685
2002: 294 125
2003: 295 033
2004: 300 908
2005: 310 086
2006: 320 514
2007: 324 100
2008: 324 500
2009: 317 529
2010: 306 555
Germany:
Micky Maus
1992: ca 800 000
2000: 507 724
2003: 450 000
2007: 261 368
2008: 217 187
2009: 195.413
2010: (2) 176 968
2010: (4) 159 944
2011: (1) 171.503
2011: (2) 183.268
Netherlands:
Donald Duck
1952: 2 500 000 (free no. 1)
1952: ca. 150 000 (no. 2)
1955: 300 000
1969: 390 000
1974: 330 000
1977: 400 000
1980: 460 000
1996: 360 000
2000: 336 593
2001: 338 275
2002: 340 349
2003: 342 337
2004: 327 933
2005: 318 192
2006: 317 083
2007: (1) 315 987 (4) 312 202
2008: (1) 317 563 (4) 312 332
2008: 318 124
2009: (1) 317 821 (4) 311 864
2010: (1) 317 342 (3) 305 020 (4) 304 759
2011: (1) 306 984
Italy:
Topolino:
2001 - 2002: 330 998
2002 - 2003: 320 394
2003 - 2004: 319 265
2006 - 2007: 242 858
2008: 230 544
2009: 209 845
June 2009 - May 2010: 203 946
And this is what I found for WD comics in the USA:
comics distributed by Diamond to comic specialty stores during January 2011:
Uncle Scrooge #399 - 3388 pcs
WD Comics and Stories #715 - 3191 pcs
Mickey Mouse #304 - 3032 pcs
DD and friends #362 - 2599 pcs
(A little bit shocking, I must admit...Donald's home country!)
Couldn't find circulation numbers of BOOM comics from Haven Distributors.
Population:
Norway: 4 985 000
Denmark: 5 580 000
Sweden: 9 475 000
Finland: 5 400 000
Germany: 81 768 000
Netherlands: 16 715 000
Italy: 60 742 000
USA: 312 884 000
Artemi
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 18 -
2012-01-21 at 23:08:30
Well, according to this data, Germany, Italy and Netherlands, at least, more or less retained their levels of circulation or even experienced a slight increase. Also, I guess it's only a fluctuation, a temporary effect caused by the financial crisis and the state European economy is in at the moment. In other words, there is a decline in almost any type of business. IMO, there's no reason to believe that it's a long-lasting trend or that Disney comics are losing popularity in those countries. Yet.
Robb_K
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 19 -
2012-01-21 at 23:48:08
I think that some of those figures can be deceiving, as they are just sales of the weekly Disney flagship magazine, and that doesn't tell the whole story. My main experience is with the situation in The Netherlands and Germany, but I also have some in Denmark (but not for the past 6-7 years. In Germany, Jan Gulbransson and I test-market our stories with local children and children of friends and neighbours. EHAPA, the German editorship, market their Miky Maus Weekly towards a younger market (seemingly ages 6-9 or so) than, for example, Donald Duck Sonderheft (with classic Barks and other epic stories, and longer stories with more complicated plots, and articles about creators. The latter books are bought by teenagers and adults. I would guess that Micky Maus sales have continued dropping off in recent years, while the magazine has continued to orient itself more to the younger kids, while DD Sonderheeft has probably actually increased in circulation due to added features. In The Netherlands, sales of Donald Duck Weekly have dropped off some since 1980. But, that was a period in which many more magazines and special books have been released. I doubt that overall average sales (adjusted for inflation) have gone down significantly. The same thing is probably relatively similar for Denmark (but perhaps with slight decline over all). But, I'd guess that the overall trend of downward sales will continue and become significant for ALL countries, Worldwide, as children and adults continue to leave the world of paper books, and do their reading online.
Gerd Syllwasschy
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 20 -
2012-01-22 at 07:39:35
The German DD Sonderheft sells about 30,000 copies every month. Some years ago it was around 50,000, I believe.
The best-selling title in Germany nowadays is Lustiges Taschenbuch, a 250-page pocket book which is published every 4 weeks. It contains mainly Italian 3-tiered material. Sales figures are above 200,000 per issue.
The best-selling title in Germany nowadays is Lustiges Taschenbuch, a 250-page pocket book which is published every 4 weeks. It contains mainly Italian 3-tiered material. Sales figures are above 200,000 per issue.
Arild
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 21 -
2012-01-22 at 09:26:54
According to Egmont Ehapa - Micky Maus and DD Sonderheft have the same "zielgruppe"/target group.
Circulation:
DD Sonderheft: (6- bis 13-jährige Mädchen und Jungen)
2010: 35 063
2011: 35 804
Lustiges Taschenbuch: (ab 6 Jahre alte Mädchen und Jungen)
2010: 245 376
2011: 249 666
In Norway Donald Duck has lost a lot of readers. More than 50 % decline over 10 years is, what can I say...worrying for a DD fan.
It's not just the weekly DD which is in decline.
The same for the Norwegian editon of Lustiges Taschenbuch. It was one of the loosers last year when it comes to readers/circulation.
In Denmark I can see that the bigget fans have to 'Look to Norway' (quote F.D.Roosevelt) to get eg. DD hard cover books and Christmas specials. (Written Danish and Norwegian languages are almost the same.)
I think Robb_K has the right conclusion. The downward sales will continue.
I don't believe that the financial crisis in 2008 (and 2011) had a large impact on the sale of comics.
Kids don't read that much for pleasure anymore. It's internett and Nintendo/Playstation which are interesting.
Circulation:
DD Sonderheft: (6- bis 13-jährige Mädchen und Jungen)
2010: 35 063
2011: 35 804
Lustiges Taschenbuch: (ab 6 Jahre alte Mädchen und Jungen)
2010: 245 376
2011: 249 666
In Norway Donald Duck has lost a lot of readers. More than 50 % decline over 10 years is, what can I say...worrying for a DD fan.
It's not just the weekly DD which is in decline.
The same for the Norwegian editon of Lustiges Taschenbuch. It was one of the loosers last year when it comes to readers/circulation.
In Denmark I can see that the bigget fans have to 'Look to Norway' (quote F.D.Roosevelt) to get eg. DD hard cover books and Christmas specials. (Written Danish and Norwegian languages are almost the same.)
I think Robb_K has the right conclusion. The downward sales will continue.
I don't believe that the financial crisis in 2008 (and 2011) had a large impact on the sale of comics.
Kids don't read that much for pleasure anymore. It's internett and Nintendo/Playstation which are interesting.
Gerd Syllwasschy
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 22 -
2012-01-22 at 10:06:13
Quote from user: ArildAccording to Egmont Ehapa - Micky Maus and DD Sonderheft have the same "zielgruppe"/target group.
Essentially, yes. But DD Sonderheft has a much higher quota of adult readers.
Essentially, yes. But DD Sonderheft has a much higher quota of adult readers.
Coolwater
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 23 -
2012-01-22 at 14:33:59
Quote from user: ArtemiWell, according to this data, Germany, Italy and Netherlands, at least, more or less retained their levels of circulation or even experienced a slight increase. Also, I guess it's only a fluctuation, a temporary effect caused by the financial crisis and the state European economy is in at the moment. In other words, there is a decline in almost any type of business. IMO, there's no reason to believe that it's a long-lasting trend or that Disney comics are losing popularity in those countries. Yet.
I think the loss is really in the substance. In the 1990s, the German Micky Maus selled around a million copies, now it's constantly less than 200,000. The break took place already after 2000.
One can produce a couple of good causes or explanations for this. One thing is pure demography (less children). Then there are much more forms of entertainment for children with which Disney comics must compete than in former times, video games, all kind of electronic entertainment and God knows what stuff.
When I was young, in those times of strange things like Rubik's Cube, permed hair, Duran Duran and Ronald Reagan, reading Micky Maus every weak was quite much a "must" for us in elementary school. I don't think that is still the case the same way today. And I don't know if there is a real "good" explanation for that ...
The editor of Micky Maus said to me some time ago that he would be surprised if there still were Disney comics in Germany in 30 years.
Well, it's not in my hands. I'm going to enjoy Disney comic life until its last breath. And with my Carl Barks work editions and all the stuff I'm prepared for every dark age being on the way.
Quote from user: ArildPopulation:
Norway: 4 985 000
Denmark: 5 580 000
Sweden: 9 475 000
Finland: 5 400 000
Germany: 81 768 000
Netherlands: 16 715 000
Italy: 60 742 000
USA: 312 884 000
For the German magazines one must even add Austria (8.5 million), the German-speaking part of Switzerland (5 million) and a few peanuts like South Tyrol and Luxemburg where the same magazines are sold. But when I read circulation numbers I never know if those areas are already included there or if it's only the number for Germany proper.
Quote from user: ArildAccording to Egmont Ehapa - Micky Maus and DD Sonderheft have the same "zielgruppe"/target group.
In the letter to the editor pages in the Sonderheft, however, they say themselves again and again that the Sonderheft targets more to grown-up hard-core fans and comic connoisseurs while Micky Maus is more for children. Anyway, that territorial partition shows itself with a short view into the magazines. Of course they don't fight tooth and nail if a child buys the Sonderheft and a grown-up Micky Maus.
I think the loss is really in the substance. In the 1990s, the German Micky Maus selled around a million copies, now it's constantly less than 200,000. The break took place already after 2000.
One can produce a couple of good causes or explanations for this. One thing is pure demography (less children). Then there are much more forms of entertainment for children with which Disney comics must compete than in former times, video games, all kind of electronic entertainment and God knows what stuff.
When I was young, in those times of strange things like Rubik's Cube, permed hair, Duran Duran and Ronald Reagan, reading Micky Maus every weak was quite much a "must" for us in elementary school. I don't think that is still the case the same way today. And I don't know if there is a real "good" explanation for that ...
The editor of Micky Maus said to me some time ago that he would be surprised if there still were Disney comics in Germany in 30 years.
Well, it's not in my hands. I'm going to enjoy Disney comic life until its last breath. And with my Carl Barks work editions and all the stuff I'm prepared for every dark age being on the way.
Quote from user: ArildPopulation:
Norway: 4 985 000
Denmark: 5 580 000
Sweden: 9 475 000
Finland: 5 400 000
Germany: 81 768 000
Netherlands: 16 715 000
Italy: 60 742 000
USA: 312 884 000
For the German magazines one must even add Austria (8.5 million), the German-speaking part of Switzerland (5 million) and a few peanuts like South Tyrol and Luxemburg where the same magazines are sold. But when I read circulation numbers I never know if those areas are already included there or if it's only the number for Germany proper.
Quote from user: ArildAccording to Egmont Ehapa - Micky Maus and DD Sonderheft have the same "zielgruppe"/target group.
In the letter to the editor pages in the Sonderheft, however, they say themselves again and again that the Sonderheft targets more to grown-up hard-core fans and comic connoisseurs while Micky Maus is more for children. Anyway, that territorial partition shows itself with a short view into the magazines. Of course they don't fight tooth and nail if a child buys the Sonderheft and a grown-up Micky Maus.
Artemi
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 24 -
2012-01-22 at 16:12:39
Quote from user: ArildI don't believe that the financial crisis in 2008 (and 2011) had a large impact on the sale of comics.
Really? I am not so sure bout this. My point is, these things just can't be ignored. Sure, there are other forms of entertainment but it has been so for at least 10 years or more. That technology - internet, Nintendo/Playstation etc. has been with us since the late 1990's/early 2000's. And yet, the most significant dicrease happened mostly in 2008-2011.
My view is that people who wanted to make a transition to these forms of entertainment (and prefer by their very nature these forms of entertainment) have already done so. On the other hand, there's is a stable percentage (it's not so big) of people (no matter what, kids or adults) who prefer reading comics (on paper). Once the evolution of technology happened, this number of people ought to stabilize. There may be come fluctuations, but a drastic decrease in sales is seen as unlikely. I mean, there are many people like me, "old-fashioned" people who would still buy their DD comics, whatever internet, movies, games etc they have at their disposal. Yes, the glory days of Disney comics are probably over. And they've become more of a niche product, but the niche is not small. It's not millions in every country but hundreds and tens of thousands (in each country, depending on population) is the real audience for these comics.
Having said all that, it would be interesting to come back to this topic in a year and study the newest statistics for 2012, for a more complete picture.
I shut up for now. :)
Really? I am not so sure bout this. My point is, these things just can't be ignored. Sure, there are other forms of entertainment but it has been so for at least 10 years or more. That technology - internet, Nintendo/Playstation etc. has been with us since the late 1990's/early 2000's. And yet, the most significant dicrease happened mostly in 2008-2011.
My view is that people who wanted to make a transition to these forms of entertainment (and prefer by their very nature these forms of entertainment) have already done so. On the other hand, there's is a stable percentage (it's not so big) of people (no matter what, kids or adults) who prefer reading comics (on paper). Once the evolution of technology happened, this number of people ought to stabilize. There may be come fluctuations, but a drastic decrease in sales is seen as unlikely. I mean, there are many people like me, "old-fashioned" people who would still buy their DD comics, whatever internet, movies, games etc they have at their disposal. Yes, the glory days of Disney comics are probably over. And they've become more of a niche product, but the niche is not small. It's not millions in every country but hundreds and tens of thousands (in each country, depending on population) is the real audience for these comics.
Having said all that, it would be interesting to come back to this topic in a year and study the newest statistics for 2012, for a more complete picture.
I shut up for now. :)
Coolwater
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 25 -
2012-01-22 at 16:41:55
The sales in Finland have stayed admirably stable on highest level. You folks up there really must live in the Promised Land of Disney comicdom.
Robb_K
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 26 -
2012-01-22 at 18:00:57
Quote from user: Gerd SyllwasschyQuote from user: ArildAccording to Egmont Ehapa - Micky Maus and DD Sonderheft have the same "zielgruppe"/target group.
Essentially, yes. But DD Sonderheft has a much higher quota of adult readers.
Most (if not all) of the children I know (our test readers and children of friends and neighbours) in Germany say the same thing:
Since the mid-late 1990s (when Micky Maus started changing towards a strictly very young audience) the older kids (9-14) have been "driven away", towards the DD Sonderheft, Taschenbucher and non-Disney entertainment. DD Sonderheeft is read and cherished by ALL the elder children 9-14 that still like Disney Comic books, as well as adults (nostalgic about their childhood). Everyone I know (about 100 or so) that still reads German Disney Comics has little love for the current Micky Maus magazines, but likes DD Sonderheeft. Most of them still like the pocketbooks (Italian stories). Only about 10-15 % of them still buy Micky Maus Weekly, and most say that is because they don't want to break their long run (collection), but they don't look forward very much to seeing each new issue (as they (or their parents) did in the past (pre-1994 or so).
Essentially, yes. But DD Sonderheft has a much higher quota of adult readers.
Most (if not all) of the children I know (our test readers and children of friends and neighbours) in Germany say the same thing:
Since the mid-late 1990s (when Micky Maus started changing towards a strictly very young audience) the older kids (9-14) have been "driven away", towards the DD Sonderheft, Taschenbucher and non-Disney entertainment. DD Sonderheeft is read and cherished by ALL the elder children 9-14 that still like Disney Comic books, as well as adults (nostalgic about their childhood). Everyone I know (about 100 or so) that still reads German Disney Comics has little love for the current Micky Maus magazines, but likes DD Sonderheeft. Most of them still like the pocketbooks (Italian stories). Only about 10-15 % of them still buy Micky Maus Weekly, and most say that is because they don't want to break their long run (collection), but they don't look forward very much to seeing each new issue (as they (or their parents) did in the past (pre-1994 or so).
MrCleveland
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 27 -
2012-01-22 at 23:14:53
Quote from user: ArildQuote from user: ArtemiNot sure, we were talking about Russia here, as I mentioned earlier, in most other countries these comics are doing pretty fine I think, especially in Europe.
I checked circulation numbers for some European countries last year. There is a decline almost all over.
(Some of the links might not work today.)
Norway:
Donald Duck & Co
1948: 40 000
1972: 176 759
1979: 250 000
1986: 250 000
1997: 174 792
1998: 171 681
1999: 173 733
2000: 163 915
2001: 151 977
2002: 144 214
2003: 137 999
2004: 130 099
2005: 122 326
2006: 117 926
2007: 111 367
2008: 99 216
2009: 87 449
2010: 72 454
Denmark:
Anders And & Co
1972: 219.688
1999: 90.500
2000: 79.486
2001: (1) 74.400 (2) 71.155
2004: 62.230
2005: 64.026
2006: 63.000
2007: (1) 60.754 (2) 56.601
2008: (1) 55.243 (2) 52.773
2009: (1) 48.101 (2) 43.318
2010: (1) 38.896 (2) 37.335
Sweden:
Kalle Anka & Co
1996: 124 900
2004: 133 000
2005: 120 000
2006: 106 000
2007: 92 000
2008: 83 000
2009: 71 900
2010: 65 300
Finland:
Akku Anka
Aku Ankka:
1975: 317.570
1997: 272 363
1998. 265 001
1999: 260 104
2000: 273 434
2001: 287 685
2002: 294 125
2003: 295 033
2004: 300 908
2005: 310 086
2006: 320 514
2007: 324 100
2008: 324 500
2009: 317 529
2010: 306 555
Germany:
Micky Maus
1992: ca 800 000
2000: 507 724
2003: 450 000
2007: 261 368
2008: 217 187
2009: 195.413
2010: (2) 176 968
2010: (4) 159 944
2011: (1) 171.503
2011: (2) 183.268
Netherlands:
Donald Duck
1952: 2 500 000 (free no. 1)
1952: ca. 150 000 (no. 2)
1955: 300 000
1969: 390 000
1974: 330 000
1977: 400 000
1980: 460 000
1996: 360 000
2000: 336 593
2001: 338 275
2002: 340 349
2003: 342 337
2004: 327 933
2005: 318 192
2006: 317 083
2007: (1) 315 987 (4) 312 202
2008: (1) 317 563 (4) 312 332
2008: 318 124
2009: (1) 317 821 (4) 311 864
2010: (1) 317 342 (3) 305 020 (4) 304 759
2011: (1) 306 984
Italy:
Topolino:
2001 - 2002: 330 998
2002 - 2003: 320 394
2003 - 2004: 319 265
2006 - 2007: 242 858
2008: 230 544
2009: 209 845
June 2009 - May 2010: 203 946
And this is what I found for WD comics in the USA:
comics distributed by Diamond to comic specialty stores during January 2011:
Uncle Scrooge #399 - 3388 pcs
WD Comics and Stories #715 - 3191 pcs
Mickey Mouse #304 - 3032 pcs
DD and friends #362 - 2599 pcs
(A little bit shocking, I must admit...Donald's home country!)
Couldn't find circulation numbers of BOOM comics from Haven Distributors.
Population:
Norway: 4 985 000
Denmark: 5 580 000
Sweden: 9 475 000
Finland: 5 400 000
Germany: 81 768 000
Netherlands: 16 715 000
Italy: 60 742 000
USA: 312 884 000
Well...it also doesn't help that Europe right now is in a Recession. :(
I checked circulation numbers for some European countries last year. There is a decline almost all over.
(Some of the links might not work today.)
Norway:
Donald Duck & Co
1948: 40 000
1972: 176 759
1979: 250 000
1986: 250 000
1997: 174 792
1998: 171 681
1999: 173 733
2000: 163 915
2001: 151 977
2002: 144 214
2003: 137 999
2004: 130 099
2005: 122 326
2006: 117 926
2007: 111 367
2008: 99 216
2009: 87 449
2010: 72 454
Denmark:
Anders And & Co
1972: 219.688
1999: 90.500
2000: 79.486
2001: (1) 74.400 (2) 71.155
2004: 62.230
2005: 64.026
2006: 63.000
2007: (1) 60.754 (2) 56.601
2008: (1) 55.243 (2) 52.773
2009: (1) 48.101 (2) 43.318
2010: (1) 38.896 (2) 37.335
Sweden:
Kalle Anka & Co
1996: 124 900
2004: 133 000
2005: 120 000
2006: 106 000
2007: 92 000
2008: 83 000
2009: 71 900
2010: 65 300
Finland:
Akku Anka
Aku Ankka:
1975: 317.570
1997: 272 363
1998. 265 001
1999: 260 104
2000: 273 434
2001: 287 685
2002: 294 125
2003: 295 033
2004: 300 908
2005: 310 086
2006: 320 514
2007: 324 100
2008: 324 500
2009: 317 529
2010: 306 555
Germany:
Micky Maus
1992: ca 800 000
2000: 507 724
2003: 450 000
2007: 261 368
2008: 217 187
2009: 195.413
2010: (2) 176 968
2010: (4) 159 944
2011: (1) 171.503
2011: (2) 183.268
Netherlands:
Donald Duck
1952: 2 500 000 (free no. 1)
1952: ca. 150 000 (no. 2)
1955: 300 000
1969: 390 000
1974: 330 000
1977: 400 000
1980: 460 000
1996: 360 000
2000: 336 593
2001: 338 275
2002: 340 349
2003: 342 337
2004: 327 933
2005: 318 192
2006: 317 083
2007: (1) 315 987 (4) 312 202
2008: (1) 317 563 (4) 312 332
2008: 318 124
2009: (1) 317 821 (4) 311 864
2010: (1) 317 342 (3) 305 020 (4) 304 759
2011: (1) 306 984
Italy:
Topolino:
2001 - 2002: 330 998
2002 - 2003: 320 394
2003 - 2004: 319 265
2006 - 2007: 242 858
2008: 230 544
2009: 209 845
June 2009 - May 2010: 203 946
And this is what I found for WD comics in the USA:
comics distributed by Diamond to comic specialty stores during January 2011:
Uncle Scrooge #399 - 3388 pcs
WD Comics and Stories #715 - 3191 pcs
Mickey Mouse #304 - 3032 pcs
DD and friends #362 - 2599 pcs
(A little bit shocking, I must admit...Donald's home country!)
Couldn't find circulation numbers of BOOM comics from Haven Distributors.
Population:
Norway: 4 985 000
Denmark: 5 580 000
Sweden: 9 475 000
Finland: 5 400 000
Germany: 81 768 000
Netherlands: 16 715 000
Italy: 60 742 000
USA: 312 884 000
Well...it also doesn't help that Europe right now is in a Recession. :(
Robb_K
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 28 -
2012-01-23 at 00:43:04
Quote from user: MrClevelandQuote from user: ArildQuote from user: ArtemiNot sure, we were talking about Russia here, as I mentioned earlier, in most other countries these comics are doing pretty fine I think, especially in Europe.
I checked circulation numbers for some European countries last year. There is a decline almost all over.
(Some of the links might not work today.)
Norway:
Donald Duck & Co
1948: 40 000
1972: 176 759
1979: 250 000
1986: 250 000
1997: 174 792
1998: 171 681
1999: 173 733
2000: 163 915
2001: 151 977
2002: 144 214
2003: 137 999
2004: 130 099
2005: 122 326
2006: 117 926
2007: 111 367
2008: 99 216
2009: 87 449
2010: 72 454
Denmark:
Anders And & Co
1972: 219.688
1999: 90.500
2000: 79.486
2001: (1) 74.400 (2) 71.155
2004: 62.230
2005: 64.026
2006: 63.000
2007: (1) 60.754 (2) 56.601
2008: (1) 55.243 (2) 52.773
2009: (1) 48.101 (2) 43.318
2010: (1) 38.896 (2) 37.335
Sweden:
Kalle Anka & Co
1996: 124 900
2004: 133 000
2005: 120 000
2006: 106 000
2007: 92 000
2008: 83 000
2009: 71 900
2010: 65 300
Finland:
Akku Anka
Aku Ankka:
1975: 317.570
1997: 272 363
1998. 265 001
1999: 260 104
2000: 273 434
2001: 287 685
2002: 294 125
2003: 295 033
2004: 300 908
2005: 310 086
2006: 320 514
2007: 324 100
2008: 324 500
2009: 317 529
2010: 306 555
Germany:
Micky Maus
1992: ca 800 000
2000: 507 724
2003: 450 000
2007: 261 368
2008: 217 187
2009: 195.413
2010: (2) 176 968
2010: (4) 159 944
2011: (1) 171.503
2011: (2) 183.268
Netherlands:
Donald Duck
1952: 2 500 000 (free no. 1)
1952: ca. 150 000 (no. 2)
1955: 300 000
1969: 390 000
1974: 330 000
1977: 400 000
1980: 460 000
1996: 360 000
2000: 336 593
2001: 338 275
2002: 340 349
2003: 342 337
2004: 327 933
2005: 318 192
2006: 317 083
2007: (1) 315 987 (4) 312 202
2008: (1) 317 563 (4) 312 332
2008: 318 124
2009: (1) 317 821 (4) 311 864
2010: (1) 317 342 (3) 305 020 (4) 304 759
2011: (1) 306 984
Italy:
Topolino:
2001 - 2002: 330 998
2002 - 2003: 320 394
2003 - 2004: 319 265
2006 - 2007: 242 858
2008: 230 544
2009: 209 845
June 2009 - May 2010: 203 946
And this is what I found for WD comics in the USA:
comics distributed by Diamond to comic specialty stores during January 2011:
Uncle Scrooge #399 - 3388 pcs
WD Comics and Stories #715 - 3191 pcs
Mickey Mouse #304 - 3032 pcs
DD and friends #362 - 2599 pcs
(A little bit shocking, I must admit...Donald's home country!)
Couldn't find circulation numbers of BOOM comics from Haven Distributors.
Population:
Norway: 4 985 000
Denmark: 5 580 000
Sweden: 9 475 000
Finland: 5 400 000
Germany: 81 768 000
Netherlands: 16 715 000
Italy: 60 742 000
USA: 312 884 000
Well...it also doesn't help that Europe right now is in a Recession. :(
I think that The Egmont-supplied publishers focusing more on younger kids in their weekly flagship magazine, and kids generally reading less (and reading less paper books) are much greater factors in the decline. I'd like to see overall sales of ALL Disney comic magazines for each country, plus to have France's totals added.
I checked circulation numbers for some European countries last year. There is a decline almost all over.
(Some of the links might not work today.)
Norway:
Donald Duck & Co
1948: 40 000
1972: 176 759
1979: 250 000
1986: 250 000
1997: 174 792
1998: 171 681
1999: 173 733
2000: 163 915
2001: 151 977
2002: 144 214
2003: 137 999
2004: 130 099
2005: 122 326
2006: 117 926
2007: 111 367
2008: 99 216
2009: 87 449
2010: 72 454
Denmark:
Anders And & Co
1972: 219.688
1999: 90.500
2000: 79.486
2001: (1) 74.400 (2) 71.155
2004: 62.230
2005: 64.026
2006: 63.000
2007: (1) 60.754 (2) 56.601
2008: (1) 55.243 (2) 52.773
2009: (1) 48.101 (2) 43.318
2010: (1) 38.896 (2) 37.335
Sweden:
Kalle Anka & Co
1996: 124 900
2004: 133 000
2005: 120 000
2006: 106 000
2007: 92 000
2008: 83 000
2009: 71 900
2010: 65 300
Finland:
Akku Anka
Aku Ankka:
1975: 317.570
1997: 272 363
1998. 265 001
1999: 260 104
2000: 273 434
2001: 287 685
2002: 294 125
2003: 295 033
2004: 300 908
2005: 310 086
2006: 320 514
2007: 324 100
2008: 324 500
2009: 317 529
2010: 306 555
Germany:
Micky Maus
1992: ca 800 000
2000: 507 724
2003: 450 000
2007: 261 368
2008: 217 187
2009: 195.413
2010: (2) 176 968
2010: (4) 159 944
2011: (1) 171.503
2011: (2) 183.268
Netherlands:
Donald Duck
1952: 2 500 000 (free no. 1)
1952: ca. 150 000 (no. 2)
1955: 300 000
1969: 390 000
1974: 330 000
1977: 400 000
1980: 460 000
1996: 360 000
2000: 336 593
2001: 338 275
2002: 340 349
2003: 342 337
2004: 327 933
2005: 318 192
2006: 317 083
2007: (1) 315 987 (4) 312 202
2008: (1) 317 563 (4) 312 332
2008: 318 124
2009: (1) 317 821 (4) 311 864
2010: (1) 317 342 (3) 305 020 (4) 304 759
2011: (1) 306 984
Italy:
Topolino:
2001 - 2002: 330 998
2002 - 2003: 320 394
2003 - 2004: 319 265
2006 - 2007: 242 858
2008: 230 544
2009: 209 845
June 2009 - May 2010: 203 946
And this is what I found for WD comics in the USA:
comics distributed by Diamond to comic specialty stores during January 2011:
Uncle Scrooge #399 - 3388 pcs
WD Comics and Stories #715 - 3191 pcs
Mickey Mouse #304 - 3032 pcs
DD and friends #362 - 2599 pcs
(A little bit shocking, I must admit...Donald's home country!)
Couldn't find circulation numbers of BOOM comics from Haven Distributors.
Population:
Norway: 4 985 000
Denmark: 5 580 000
Sweden: 9 475 000
Finland: 5 400 000
Germany: 81 768 000
Netherlands: 16 715 000
Italy: 60 742 000
USA: 312 884 000
Well...it also doesn't help that Europe right now is in a Recession. :(
I think that The Egmont-supplied publishers focusing more on younger kids in their weekly flagship magazine, and kids generally reading less (and reading less paper books) are much greater factors in the decline. I'd like to see overall sales of ALL Disney comic magazines for each country, plus to have France's totals added.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 29 -
2012-01-23 at 17:42:15
A bit of math worked out for you (thank you, calculator), here are the 2010 numbers:
Norway: 1 Donald Duck & Co per 69 inhabitants
Denmark: 1 Anders And per 147 inhabitants
Sweden: 1 Kalle Anka per 145 inhabitants
Finland: 1 Aku Ankka per 18 inhabitants (not made by Egmont)
Germany: 1 Micky Maus per 462 inhabitants (numbers declined rapidly after it became kid-orientated)
Netherlands: 1 Donald Duck per 53 inhabitants (declining number later in the year, that's when quarter/half-year subscriptions kids got for Christmas have stopped)
Italy: 1 Topolino per 298 inhabitants (but the stories are still great - I think the recession just hit hard there)
USA: 1 (jubilee issue, even!) Walt Disney's Comics and Stories per 98052 inhabitants (!!!!! in 1953, those numbers were a thousand times more!)
Here are two ends of the scale: if Denmark had the USA's ratio, they'd make 57 weeklies every issue, and if the USA had Finland's ratio, they would make 17.762.351 weeklies/monthlies every issue!
Norway: 1 Donald Duck & Co per 69 inhabitants
Denmark: 1 Anders And per 147 inhabitants
Sweden: 1 Kalle Anka per 145 inhabitants
Finland: 1 Aku Ankka per 18 inhabitants (not made by Egmont)
Germany: 1 Micky Maus per 462 inhabitants (numbers declined rapidly after it became kid-orientated)
Netherlands: 1 Donald Duck per 53 inhabitants (declining number later in the year, that's when quarter/half-year subscriptions kids got for Christmas have stopped)
Italy: 1 Topolino per 298 inhabitants (but the stories are still great - I think the recession just hit hard there)
USA: 1 (jubilee issue, even!) Walt Disney's Comics and Stories per 98052 inhabitants (!!!!! in 1953, those numbers were a thousand times more!)
Here are two ends of the scale: if Denmark had the USA's ratio, they'd make 57 weeklies every issue, and if the USA had Finland's ratio, they would make 17.762.351 weeklies/monthlies every issue!
Scarpomaniak
Disney Duck Comics from other regions...besides Europe, Brazil, and US
Message 30 -
2012-01-24 at 07:19:37
In Poland weekly "Kaczor Donald" in 2011 sold on average in 27 257 copies, so
1 Kaczor Donald per 1401 inhabitants
1 Kaczor Donald per 1401 inhabitants