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The first problem is that there are only three producers of Disney (Duck and Mouse) Comics left: Disney Italia, Egmont of Denmark and the Dutch producer (I don´t know if Finland´s Sanoma has begun to produce comics of their own). The Italian comics are - after a great decline between 1995-2005 - great again with authors like Casty (2011 published "Marea dei secoli - Tides of centuries" is surely one of the most fascinating Mouse and Disney comics ever written and drawn), Faccini, Ziche, Vitaliano, Cavazzano and others. The dutch output has always been small but nice, but the real drama and the second - main - problem as well as a producer of stories as a publisher of comic magazines wordwide is Egmont: Their output since the beginning 2000 is really kiddy-stuff (which every intelligent child would refuse; all this reminds of the last Western period that ruined Disney comics in the US marcet) with a stock of authors that likely never grew up with Disney comics and obviously don´t feel their spirit, persons without ideas (e.g.: I consider why they don´t create strong female characters or reform the existing ones, we still have got the characters of the 50ies). So all of the Egmont based comics and magazines are in a great decline (and new countries naturally refuse this type of comics) but they don´t seem to revise their strategy. It looks like they wanted to repulse the last Disney fan in Scandinavia, Germany etc.
The third problem is Disney itself: The last year great Barks fan Spielberg produced an adapted "Tintin" story (with some reference on gags of the Duck man) for cinema. Why did none of the Disney responsibles ask for a Barks based film? It would be necessary to use the Disney characters for TV-series, films, video games etc. The duck tales were produced in a lousy way but at least it was an attempt.

Quote from user: Kurt AppelI consider why they don´t create strong female characters or reform the existing ones, we still have got the characters of the 50ies
I can't speak for anyone else, but... Velma Vanderduck isn't a strong female character?! Kolik from TNT?! I've also brought back Belle Duck (who didn't need to be changed in order to be a great character).

Quote from user: Kurt AppelThe first problem is that there are only three producers of Disney (Duck and Mouse) Comics left: Disney Italia, Egmont of Denmark and the Dutch producer (I don´t know if Finland´s Sanoma has begun to produce comics of their own). The Italian comics are - after a great decline between 1995-2005 - great again with authors like Casty (2011 published "Marea dei secoli - Tides of centuries" is surely one of the most fascinating Mouse and Disney comics ever written and drawn), Faccini, Ziche, Vitaliano, Cavazzano and others. The dutch output has always been small but nice, but the real drama and the second - main - problem as well as a producer of stories as a publisher of comic magazines wordwide is Egmont: Their output since the beginning 2000 is really kiddy-stuff (which every intelligent child would refuse; all this reminds of the last Western period that ruined Disney comics in the US marcet) with a stock of authors that likely never grew up with Disney comics and obviously don´t feel their spirit, persons without ideas (e.g.: I consider why they don´t create strong female characters or reform the existing ones, we still have got the characters of the 50ies). So all of the Egmont based comics and magazines are in a great decline (and new countries naturally refuse this type of comics) but they don´t seem to revise their strategy. It looks like they wanted to repulse the last Disney fan in Scandinavia, Germany etc.
The third problem is Disney itself: The last year great Barks fan Spielberg produced an adapted "Tintin" story (with some reference on gags of the Duck man) for cinema. Why did none of the Disney responsibles ask for a Barks based film? It would be necessary to use the Disney characters for TV-series, films, video games etc. The duck tales were produced in a lousy way but at least it was an attempt.
I really like that Disney Italy keeps on producing continuous long stories like "Wizards of Mickey", "Doubleduck" and also "Marea dei secoli". As for Egmont, there are authors and artists like Knut Naerum and Arild Midthun who teamed up so well and produced Barkesque long adventure stories like the Hansa Hazard and Junior Woodchuck time travel series. And Noel van Horn never ceases to amaze me (it's good to see that he's now doing characters other than Mickey now). And for other stories, yes there are variation of themes and sometimes they are even great. But I don't know, there's just something missing in the humor department. The stories are still funny but not that 'kind' of humor that leaves me smiling long after I put down the magazine (the kind like Bark's Fireman Donald in which Donald forgot his clothes etc etc, for instance). The humor in Dutch's comics is closer to what I imagine and hope in my previous example.

Quote from user: ArildI checked circulation numbers for some European countries last year. There is a decline almost all over.
An update for 2011:

Norway:
Donald Duck & Co:
2010: 72 454
2011: 68 235

Denmark:
Anders And & Co
2010: (1) 38.896 (2) 37.335
2011: (1) 34.960

Sweden:
Kalle Anka & Co
2010: 65 300
2011: 63 400

Germany:
Micky Maus
2010: (4) 159 944
2011: (4) 138 682

Netherlands:
Donald Duck
2010: (1) 317 342 (3) 305 020
2011: (1) 306 984 (3) 297 981

Italy:
Topolino
June 2009 - May 2010: 203 946
October 2010 - September 2011: 175 372

Quote from user: Robb_K...have France's totals added.
France:
Le Journal de Mickey
2001: 175 427
2002: 163 831
2003: 154 790
2004: 156 654
2005: 160 033
2006: 161 816
2007: 162 224
2008: 148 386
2009: 144 510
2010: 143 563
2011: 139 899