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Wikipedia alerted me to a very obscure member of Clan McDuck who was only in one Italian story, by the name of "Manibuche DiPaperoni," which translates to "Hole-hands McDuck," who is supposedly Scrooge's long-lost twin brother! He is also rich, but unlike Scrooge he constantly gives money away, which is why he's nicknamed "Hole-hands." I was very surprised to learn of this character, as he isn't even on Gilles Maurice's family tree - my go-to source for obscure Ducks - probably due to being literally impossible to work into Barks and Rosa's universe, so I'd like to know more about him. Did he appear more than once? Is he Scrooge's literal brother, or just yet another of the seemingly innumerable relatives who look like him?

Quote from user: Arnaudhttp://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+AO+55034-A

Why would it be compatible with Rosa's stories when it was written more than 30 years before his first one ? :D
Thanks! I knew this guy was from well before Rosa, but I didn't know how before - he was created when Barks was still writing!

Quote from user: ScroogerelloInteresting...Mani Buche De'Paperoni was the first of Scrooge's siblings to be introduced in the comics (Gideon's first appearance was one year later, and Rumpus, Matilda and Hortense didn't make their comic appearances until the 1990s).
Hortense and Matilda technically came first, but only in a family tree Barks wrote as essentially a note to himself, and was only released to the public in the '80s. As for Gideon, I've found some evidence that he's actually a cousin, believe it or not.

Quote from user: Majestic_PicnobAs for Gideon, I've found some evidence that he's actually a cousin, believe it or not.
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?normalsize=1&image=http://outducks.org/webusers/webusers-char0/it_pm_0350l_002_gedeone.jpg
Fratello=brother :)

Quote from user: Majestic_PicnobQuote from user: ScroogerelloQuote from user: Majestic_PicnobAs for Gideon, I've found some evidence that he's actually a cousin, believe it or not.
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?normalsize=1&image=http://outducks.org/webusers/webusers-char0/it_pm_0350l_002_gedeone.jpg
Fratello=brother :)
I'm aware he's called "brother," but I ran across a curious Italian family tree that labeled Gideon as not Scrooge's brother, but brother to his Cousin Cyril, a Bob Gregory character.

So I think you can interpret it both ways, is what I'm saying.
I would use him as Cyril McDuck's brother, and, thus, Scrooge's cousin. And, let's not forget Scrooge's Cousin Slye McDuck, and cousin Wee Angus McDuck, both from Scotland, and both used by Bob Gregory and Tony Strobl. Wee Angus was a grand nephew of Scrooge's Uncle Angus, a grandson of Scrooge's Uncle Jake, and a grand nephew of Scrooge's father, as well.

Quote from user: Majestic_PicnobWhoa. Apparently, not only did the older Italian stories give Scrooge brothers from nowhere, there was at least one that gave him a completely different set of PARENTS, too! Story ITL 756-A ("Uncle Scrooge and the Gold of the Klondike") from 1970 is where they show up, and they seem quite a bit wackier than Fergus and Downy, as it looks like they literally mailed themselves (like, in the mail) to the Klondike to spend time with Scrooge! With as popular as Rosa's take on Scrooge's family became I kinda doubt we'll see these two again...
I think that 'Zio Paperone e l'oro del Klondike' (http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++756-A) is a brilliant story! I already mentoined the story in the topic 'My De Spell family tree'. This comic was the first visual appearance of the Scrooge's parents, and the only time they actually got the major role. And, really, the artwork of Scarpa in this story is just beautiful. The fact that Scrooge's parents are a little 'wackier' is actually one of my favourite aspects of the story. The characters were very funny in how they acted this way. For example, Scrooge's parents were shown to already have been in a relationship for 20 years without marrying, because both of them were too greedy to pay the 'marriage-fee' of 1 dollar :D (eventually, Scrooge's mother decides to pay the fee, with pain in her heart). Very other questions about their families are answered in a very comical way. This thing about them 'mailing themselves' you mentioned is new to me. It's not there in the Dutch translation, at least.

To me, they are the same characters as Fergus and Downy; they have to be (Scrooge can't have two sets of parents). I think this is a similar case as with Rosa's version of Grandpa Duck and Strobl's version; they don't look alike, but they can definately be considered the same character -- just an older/younger version.

BTW: Did you know that the Dutch version of the story actually lists Scrooge's mother's name as 'Downy'? I guess the Dutch translators thought of Rosa's version and Martina/Scarpa's version being the same character as well...

Quote from user: Majestic_PicnobThat does sound like a pretty fun story!
Can anyone who owns this story post a few sample panels that show what Scrooge's parents look like? It's a shame it will likely never see print in English.

"Zio Paperone e l'oro del Klondike" is the last issue of the "Storia e Gloria della Dinastia dei Paperi"(History and Glory of the Duck Dynasty), starting from Ancient Egypt until modern days(well, as modern as 1970).
It has been recently reprinted in Italy both in TPB and giant-sized Hardcover.