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DON:
While saying the whole Magic Hourglass story being nonsence and that the
story never exicted...excist...exisc.. took place (;-) what did you actually
mean? That wasn't canon or the story was canon, but it just didn't happen
(DD was dreaming etc) or what? Barks being wrong?-o And in your stories
Scrooge has had contact with magic as well, so he oughta believe in it.
He even wore that amulet of fore-seeing once.

Have you thought about making the long-waited return of the midi-ducks or
the king of the Golden moon? Or Ducks saving the world (have they ever actually
done this, by the way?) or something like that?
BTW, I wouldn't consider you slow. I rather read a one good story you used
a month for than a 30 bad stories some italian guys made in a day each.

Oh, you will make Scrooge have in his museum (or what ever you asked
those items for) the things seen in the first half-pages of Lo$?

Your stories happened 40 years ago?!-o Why's that? Why not just make
it 1994 and admit that after becoming cartoon characters in Lo$ #12 they
everybody stopped getting old? Especially the satellite in the time involved
story wars against 1954.

DAVID:
What I meant with 'drawing eyes look not whole' was not the pupils but
the circles around them. I think he's the guy who made the first Mickey
Mysteries. He also has made several fantasy-adventures for Mickey and Goofy.
In some fantasyland with elfs and big-nosed dwarfs.
And BTW, Finnish Aku Ankka (you quessed it, DD in Finnish :) is somewhat
similar to those references which Jorgen postes here regularely.

--

Mike - The Finnish Trekkie

Hi everyone. This is my first time posting in this newsletter, so please
take it easy on me.:) Well, after rading the last digest I was wondering
if Don's Duck family Tree will ever be printed in the Gladstone comics? I
remember reading about it in a Gopher site and I'd find it very interesing
to see also.
Mr. Rosa, since I know you read this newsletter, i'd like to thank you
for responding to my letter that I wrote, it really made my day.
The disscussion on Moby Duck has been interesting, I picked up an
old copy of his comic book a while ago and haven't seen one since, does
any one know how long it lasted? My copy I believe was from before I was
born, sometime in the early seventies.
I think that they should bring back those Duck Family one shots
and have all of the ducks in it. Including Moby Duck and more importantly
April, May and June.
I really miss not having any Christmas/Holiday Parades this year,
I hope they come back soon.

JORGEN: I recall not being very impressed with "Phantom of Notre Duck"
when it first ran (7-67). Not knowing anything of Carl Barks (few did
then), I was wondering if a new scripter had taken over, as the art style
seemed the same. I couldn't see the person writing this somewhat silly
whodunit as the one who had penned "Secret of the Incas", "Lost in the
Andes" and "Seven Cities of Cibola". The ending did have more bite, with
the US look-alike and Scrooge joining in the cathedral-building project.
Incidentally, just four issues later Barks was back on track with "Treasure
of Marco Polo". My mother thought I was crazy when I went ROTFL at the
soldier saying, "You just can't trust these watches made in the workers'
paradise".

HARRY: Is Picsou the French US book? My youngest boy was in France about
5 years ago and told me "Oncle Picsou" is what he's known as there. He said
the name has something to do with stopping to pick up every coin found on
the sidewalk. Sounds like our man.

DON: Finally got US 290 and found D.U.C.K. on the splash page, but
missed it on the cover. Whereis? When I saw the overflowing spitoon in
the saloon, I thought Glomgold was going to get a taste of it for sure, but
feathers on top of molasses and feathers was almost as good. One question,
however. After this run in with Glomgold, why didn't Scrooge recognize him
onboard ship in US 15? Aside from FC 456, Scrooge's memory for nasty
characters has been pretty good.

MITCH:
me>Now that I think of it, some Dutch may pronounce the word ['job'] as 'shop'.
> Hmmm. Then, you confuse 'job' with 'retail establishment," which ain't
> necessarily the same thing.

No, I don't confuse the words. I really heard some Dutch people say 'shop' when
they meant 'job'. The word is sometimes used in Dutch. For instance, late comedian
Wim Kan once said "full-time shop".

BTW: I now read the USA version of the Transvaal story (Lo$ 6, US 290). The Dutch
guy seems to have grown tulips in Amsterdam. I must say this sounds a bit silly:
a rural occupation in a "big" city. Something like a cowboy in New York City. Hm...
I don't know if the song "Tulips from Amsterdam" is known outside Holland and Germany,
but I always considered the tulips to be _sold_ in Amsterdam, not _grown_.

--Harry.

Message:
Hi: This is my first posting so bear with me if I do not have the
sender etiquette down pat.
Has anyone heard of the audiotape given to cast members of the Disney
Store in celebration of DD's birthday in June? I have a copy of it
but believe it or not have yet to play it. They claim it is exclusive
to cast members and has the voive of Carl Barks on it. Anyone
interested in a copy???
TTFN
kozuch at stccadm.stcc.mass.edu
Kris

Norwegian Index
---------------
Thanx for your comments to my proposal of a Norwegian index. I got
a private mail from Harry (thanx!), but I think I will answer in
public, since others might be interested in that (yeah, right...).

My format is indeed inspired by the general format as devised by Harry.

My format:
> 1994-44 1 D91397 10 DD Stjernereporteren
> 1994-44 2 8 DD Oppdrift i manesjen
> 1994-44 3 D91409 10 Vi DD Sponsor ma man ha
> 1994-44 4 D93323 8FH Fer MM Fossiljegerne 2
> 1994-44 5 KF2.2.58 1 Fa Den maten!

Harry's format:
> 74-18b WDCD 11 3 @ DA Flyg och far
> 74-18c D 2572 4 GO Den rullande skrothogen
> 74-18d D 2645 4 LW Att grava en grop at andra
> 74-18e W WDC 189-?1 10 CB CB DD Kampa inte mot naturen
> 74-18f WDCD 12 3 @ BR Tornadorken
> 74-18g ZX 70-03-29 1 SC Ludde aker dit
> 74-18h I 846 6 US Den fantastiska tekniken [part 1]

Comments mostly to Harry:

I use 1994 instead of 94, because the format otherwise will look a bit
strange in about five years. If you (Harry) left that out to save space,
why not remove plotter and inker instead? You haven't used those columns
much. Couldn't that information be included as comments were needed?

I will change my numbering of stories to lettering. That will save space,
and makes searching easier.

How do you 'normalize' the story codes? I haven't looked at your code, so
I don't know why you do it, but if I'm just looking for where the story
D2572 is, it's easier to use grep on 'D2572' than 'D 2572'. I could of
course just look for '2572'...

I will standardise the creator abbreviations, and if standardising the
character abbreviations makes it easier to use it, I'll do that too.

Instead of '[part 1]' I just say '1', as Ole. Long comments could also
make it wider than eighty columns. That makes it difficult to read for
humans.
Too many comments can also make machine reading more difficult.

The Extras
----------
The Norwegian Extras aren't just facsimiles of old issues, although some
of them are. Of course they could be put into an own file, but then I
would have to look through more files to find a certain story. Oh, maybe
I'm just too lazy...

Empty columns
-------------
Maybe they should be filled by something, like '-', if the information
isn't known. That would make it easier to use, for instance, awk on them.

Character standards
-------------------
1) }|}[\] is ISO-646-something, usually called ASCII. Some terminals,
or terminal emulators, translate those seven bit characters into seven
bit Scandinavian characters. Even if they look Scandinavian on the
screen, they will still look like {|} etc. other places, where they are
not translated, or converted.

2) ISO-Latin-1, or ISO-8859-1. These are eight bit characters. That means
they can address a lot more different characters than seven bit sets.
If a file containing eight bit characters is transferred, to a system that
only handles seven bit text, as eight bit, for instance on a disk, or with
ftp in binary mode, the eighth bit will simply be stripped away. That makes
the three last characters in the Norwegian alphabet look like 'efx'.

3) Electronic mail makes it even more difficult. The SMTP, the mail protocol,
is built to transfer seven bit files. That means that eight bit files will
have to be translated to seven bit when it leaves the sender, and being
retranslated to eight bit when it reaches the reciever. One way to handle
this is MIME. MIME puts in a couple of extra headers which tells the system
to use it. Eight bit characters are then translated to sequences of seven
bit characters. The last characters in the Norwegian alphabet (in lower
case) will then be =E6 =F8 =E5. If the reciever doesn't use MIME, they
will remain that way.
Your problem with the ftp mail service, Harry, is that the file is put
into the mail as eight bit (if you told it to use binary mode) and then
stripped to seven bit in the mail.

Suggestions to solve the problem
--------------------------------
Stop using MS-DOS ;-) Anyway, if your system can handle eight bit
characters, but your mail system can't, the problem is most easy solved
by using UUencode, ftp in binary mode, or a WWW-client. The WWW-protocol
is, as far as I know, eight bit.
In my opinion the ISO-Latin-1 standard should be universal, so I will
use that. It isn't that difficult to tranlate it to ISO-646 if that should
be necessary.

Jorgen

In reply to your message on Dec 16, 9:36 SUBJECT: <Notre Duck, Picsou>:

>
>BTW: I know some abbreviations like BTW (by the way) and IMHO (in my humble
>opinion), but what does ROTFL mean?
^^^^^^^^
ROLL ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING
what else ? :)
>
> -------------------end of your message-----------

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