Eta Beta:
Tante grazie, carissimo!!!! I'll put my eye on the Tony Strobl
comics. I didn't know that he was one of my favorites ;)
I know that that comic was based in a popular tale, and maybe (I think) far
related to Kalevala. Because, thanks to you too, Mike Pohjola...
Be seeing you
Fabio Blanco (happy with his new pins of Scrooge and the nephews)
*************************
Bonvolu postu al: longtom at oeste.com.ar
>FABIO, FERNANDO
>
>>Scrooge, Donald and the nephews
>>make a picnic on the beach. But the sandwiches have too much salt! Was it?
A
>>little mill who produces salt! Is a mill who produces that we want.
>
>S 69003 The Enchanted Mill
>
>Indeed by Tony Strobl, it was published in Italy in "Topolino" #741,
>february 1970
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Eta Beta
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Fabio Blanco
FABIO, FERNANDO: Enchanted Mill
Message 91 -
2000-12-10 at 21:37:27
SRoweCanoe
R: Chase Craig
Message 92 -
2000-12-10 at 21:38:13
In a message dated 12/10/2000 12:13:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, cnotw at zen.it
writes:
> nteresting. It seems that he was not able to remember so muche, indeed,
> according with Alberto, who wrote him, and received onli "general" answers.
Whcih isn't too surprising. how many of us can give more than "general"
answers about our own careers? Or - more to the point - the trivia of our
jobs?
Don Rosa (let me pick on Don ) can give us good info on his sstories, but
what about if we started asking him questions about his construction work? I
would imagine he can answer some/ most - but what if we start asking him
about why certain wood was used? Or even, when he did that "Sun" story,
what color socks was he wearing?
I can no longer recall the last name of my best friend from the late 1970s
(his first name was Paul). I do recall memorable stories about him. I've met
plenty of people who don't remember me, or that I don't remember them.
Why should we expect Craig to recall why certain panels were removed? An
event he probably had to do with multitude of artists (and writers)
throughtout the years; as far as we know - decisions that he had to do maybe
a couple of times a week. The fact that Barks was left mostly alone, doesn't
mean that the few times he wasn't would make it all the more memorable to a
busy editor.
In the event that someone does get to meet / inteview Craig, I hope that
the focus would be on getting him to recall his career, and to let it flow
with what is important to him, rather than to try to force him to recall
events whose context is different to him than to us.
Steven Rowe
writes:
> nteresting. It seems that he was not able to remember so muche, indeed,
> according with Alberto, who wrote him, and received onli "general" answers.
Whcih isn't too surprising. how many of us can give more than "general"
answers about our own careers? Or - more to the point - the trivia of our
jobs?
Don Rosa (let me pick on Don ) can give us good info on his sstories, but
what about if we started asking him questions about his construction work? I
would imagine he can answer some/ most - but what if we start asking him
about why certain wood was used? Or even, when he did that "Sun" story,
what color socks was he wearing?
I can no longer recall the last name of my best friend from the late 1970s
(his first name was Paul). I do recall memorable stories about him. I've met
plenty of people who don't remember me, or that I don't remember them.
Why should we expect Craig to recall why certain panels were removed? An
event he probably had to do with multitude of artists (and writers)
throughtout the years; as far as we know - decisions that he had to do maybe
a couple of times a week. The fact that Barks was left mostly alone, doesn't
mean that the few times he wasn't would make it all the more memorable to a
busy editor.
In the event that someone does get to meet / inteview Craig, I hope that
the focus would be on getting him to recall his career, and to let it flow
with what is important to him, rather than to try to force him to recall
events whose context is different to him than to us.
Steven Rowe
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Nutmeg? Not my cup of tea! (A Spicy Tale - US 39)
Message 93 -
2000-12-10 at 23:04:19
In the last panel of "A Spicy Tale" (US 39), as in the CBL, Scrooge says:
"I hope I can get this collar and chain cut off before somebody discovers
what a fibber I am!"
The lettering of "fibber I am!" looks slightly different from the rest of
the balloon's dialogue. Is this coincidence or could there originally have
been something else? Does the lettering look like being done by somebody
else than Carl or Gare Barks?
The story is about Scrooge being addicted to nutmeg tea. If the dialogue
has been changed, could it originally have contained a reference to his
addiction (instead of a reference to his fibbing in the previous panel)?
To me, the chain and the collar looks like a visualization of Scrooge's
addiction: he's happy having his nutmeg tea again, but by pulling the
chain he hints that he rather would get rid of being dependent of it.
(At least before somebody discovers he's an addict.) What do you think
of that?
On internet, I found a page on nutmeg being a drug:
"http://www.erowid.org/plants/nutmeg/nutmeg_faq.shtml"
Browsing through its contents, I'm surprised that this story got past the
censors (concerning their standards).
Reading the adverse effects mentioned on the page, I don't think I'll ever
have the desire to become a nutmeg addict myself. :-)
Information taken from an email by Mattias Hallin, sent to this list on
Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:27:44 +0100:
- - - - -
Nutmeg is a drug and really can have addicting effects. Ross Russell, in
his jazz musician Charlie Parker biography "Bird Lives" tells about how the
adolescent (early teens) Parker and a friend got high on coffee spiked with
nutmeg -- so much so, according to Russell, that they freaked out and
stayed away from home and school for several days. I *think* Russell also
mentions this coffee'n'nutmegs thing as a common poor man's/kids' drug of
the period (early/mid-thirties).
- - - - -
Note the information about nutmeg being a poor man's drug. Apparently,
Scrooge being a drug addict isn't so out-of-character as I would have
thought. :-)
Best wishes,
--- Daniel
"I hope I can get this collar and chain cut off before somebody discovers
what a fibber I am!"
The lettering of "fibber I am!" looks slightly different from the rest of
the balloon's dialogue. Is this coincidence or could there originally have
been something else? Does the lettering look like being done by somebody
else than Carl or Gare Barks?
The story is about Scrooge being addicted to nutmeg tea. If the dialogue
has been changed, could it originally have contained a reference to his
addiction (instead of a reference to his fibbing in the previous panel)?
To me, the chain and the collar looks like a visualization of Scrooge's
addiction: he's happy having his nutmeg tea again, but by pulling the
chain he hints that he rather would get rid of being dependent of it.
(At least before somebody discovers he's an addict.) What do you think
of that?
On internet, I found a page on nutmeg being a drug:
"http://www.erowid.org/plants/nutmeg/nutmeg_faq.shtml"
Browsing through its contents, I'm surprised that this story got past the
censors (concerning their standards).
Reading the adverse effects mentioned on the page, I don't think I'll ever
have the desire to become a nutmeg addict myself. :-)
Information taken from an email by Mattias Hallin, sent to this list on
Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:27:44 +0100:
- - - - -
Nutmeg is a drug and really can have addicting effects. Ross Russell, in
his jazz musician Charlie Parker biography "Bird Lives" tells about how the
adolescent (early teens) Parker and a friend got high on coffee spiked with
nutmeg -- so much so, according to Russell, that they freaked out and
stayed away from home and school for several days. I *think* Russell also
mentions this coffee'n'nutmegs thing as a common poor man's/kids' drug of
the period (early/mid-thirties).
- - - - -
Note the information about nutmeg being a poor man's drug. Apparently,
Scrooge being a drug addict isn't so out-of-character as I would have
thought. :-)
Best wishes,
--- Daniel
Luca Boschi
PK and Horace's new cat
Message 94 -
2000-12-11 at 00:28:17
Hi, Marco!
About the identification of the second story in PAPERINIK # 59,it was just
included in the Blasco Pisapia Chronology sent us some days ago. Indeed, its
credits are:
#59 (8/'98) "Paperinik... in tourn?e"
I-PK 59-2 20 pages
N.Russo (s), Venturini (i)
And now, for who's interested about...
In the next "Topolino" issue, which shall have a special, wide distribution
(as for every Xmas happens) and a very cheap, promotional price (only
?.2000), a new story written by me shall be printed.
Its title is PLUTO IN: INDOVINA CHI VIENE A CUCCIA? (Yes, its title is
inspired to the old Giuseppe Patroni Griffi's movie starring Florinda
Bolkan)
It's the third Pluto's story I write and storyboard this year, while as
usual Donald Soffritti provides the art. Sorry if there are no coyotes in
it, this time, but once again Uncle Wombat pops up (I even don't know in how
many stories I used him, two of 'em are still unpublished, one joined with
Ben Bubbola, indeed) and a new character.
Horace's cat Gildo is introduced, hoping to become a recurring character to
replace Figaro (who comes from a classic feature and no teams-up with Pluto
anymore).
I hope you'll like, for Donald's art, at least!
Luca
About the identification of the second story in PAPERINIK # 59,it was just
included in the Blasco Pisapia Chronology sent us some days ago. Indeed, its
credits are:
#59 (8/'98) "Paperinik... in tourn?e"
I-PK 59-2 20 pages
N.Russo (s), Venturini (i)
And now, for who's interested about...
In the next "Topolino" issue, which shall have a special, wide distribution
(as for every Xmas happens) and a very cheap, promotional price (only
?.2000), a new story written by me shall be printed.
Its title is PLUTO IN: INDOVINA CHI VIENE A CUCCIA? (Yes, its title is
inspired to the old Giuseppe Patroni Griffi's movie starring Florinda
Bolkan)
It's the third Pluto's story I write and storyboard this year, while as
usual Donald Soffritti provides the art. Sorry if there are no coyotes in
it, this time, but once again Uncle Wombat pops up (I even don't know in how
many stories I used him, two of 'em are still unpublished, one joined with
Ben Bubbola, indeed) and a new character.
Horace's cat Gildo is introduced, hoping to become a recurring character to
replace Figaro (who comes from a classic feature and no teams-up with Pluto
anymore).
I hope you'll like, for Donald's art, at least!
Luca
Fernando Ventura
Creators on DCML!
Message 95 -
2000-12-11 at 03:02:59
I'm curious about it since I was enjoying the DCML...how many "Disney Comics
creators", are menbers of this list? And who is who?
Fernando!
(stupid question, isn't it?)
creators", are menbers of this list? And who is who?
Fernando!
(stupid question, isn't it?)
Unggul_jaya
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The New Scrooge Investing
Message 98 -
2000-12-11 at 09:58:35
While browsing through the bookstore the other day, a book in the finance
section titled "The New Scrooge Investing" caught my eye. It begins
with a quote saying that the world's richest people are misers, and in
the introduction the author talks about Scrooge McDuck and Carl Barks!
It would seem that someone thought it worthwile to write a book on
financing with Uncle Srooge as a model, and that the book has aparently
done well enough to merit a second edition, as the first was titled
"Scrooge Investing"!!!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"There's nowhere else like it in the Universe. Not *this* Universe, anyway..."
-----
section titled "The New Scrooge Investing" caught my eye. It begins
with a quote saying that the world's richest people are misers, and in
the introduction the author talks about Scrooge McDuck and Carl Barks!
It would seem that someone thought it worthwile to write a book on
financing with Uncle Srooge as a model, and that the book has aparently
done well enough to merit a second edition, as the first was titled
"Scrooge Investing"!!!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"There's nowhere else like it in the Universe. Not *this* Universe, anyway..."
-----
François Willot
Picsou #347 is out
Message 99 -
2000-12-11 at 13:52:50
Harry wrote to me:
>This is not the Rosa pin-up. What's the real URL?
I saw this error but my mail wasn't working during the week-end. Anyway here
it is:
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/scans/FC_PM__347D.gif
Francois
>This is not the Rosa pin-up. What's the real URL?
I saw this error but my mail wasn't working during the week-end. Anyway here
it is:
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/scans/FC_PM__347D.gif
Francois
Kriton Kyrimis
DCML digest, Vol 1 #349 - 11 msgs
Message 100 -
2000-12-11 at 14:49:41
STEVEN:
> Or even, when he did that "Sun" story,
> what color socks was he wearing?
Why would I not be surprised if Don answered this? :-)
DANIEL:
> On internet, I found a page on nutmeg being a drug:
> "http://www.erowid.org/plants/nutmeg/nutmeg_faq.shtml"
Aaargh! I'd better throw away those numeg-flavored mashed potatoes that
I made, before I get arrested!!!
If I remember correctly, these were supposed to be a special variety of
nutmeg, which is why Scrooge could not simply get his nutmegs at a local
store. The page you mention says that "the name nutmeg is also applied
in different countries to other fruits or seeds", which means that
these special nutmegs could be almost anything. However, the soothing
(and possibly addictive?) effect that nutmeg tea had on Scrooge would
seem to suggest that it was a bit less innocent than soda pop.
> Browsing through its contents, I'm surprised that this story got past the
> censors (concerning their standards).
I would assume that the people who okayed the story were not aware of
the addictive qualities of nutmeg. I wonder if Barks knew, however,
and used nutmeg on purpose.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
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-----
> Or even, when he did that "Sun" story,
> what color socks was he wearing?
Why would I not be surprised if Don answered this? :-)
DANIEL:
> On internet, I found a page on nutmeg being a drug:
> "http://www.erowid.org/plants/nutmeg/nutmeg_faq.shtml"
Aaargh! I'd better throw away those numeg-flavored mashed potatoes that
I made, before I get arrested!!!
If I remember correctly, these were supposed to be a special variety of
nutmeg, which is why Scrooge could not simply get his nutmegs at a local
store. The page you mention says that "the name nutmeg is also applied
in different countries to other fruits or seeds", which means that
these special nutmegs could be almost anything. However, the soothing
(and possibly addictive?) effect that nutmeg tea had on Scrooge would
seem to suggest that it was a bit less innocent than soda pop.
> Browsing through its contents, I'm surprised that this story got past the
> censors (concerning their standards).
I would assume that the people who okayed the story were not aware of
the addictive qualities of nutmeg. I wonder if Barks knew, however,
and used nutmeg on purpose.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Donald Ault
Scrooge's addiction to nutmeg
Message 101 -
2000-12-11 at 16:46:05
Regarding US #39 Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
The lettering of "fibber I am!" looks slightly different from the rest of
the balloon's dialogue. Is this coincidence or could there originally have
been something else? Does the lettering look like being done by somebody
else than Carl or Gare Barks?
The story is about Scrooge being addicted to nutmeg tea. If the dialogue
has been changed, could it originally have contained a reference to his
addiction (instead of a reference to his fibbing in the previous panel)?
To me, the chain and the collar looks like a visualization of Scrooge's
addiction: he's happy having his nutmeg tea again, but by pulling the
chain he hints that he rather would get rid of being dependent of it.
(At least before somebody discovers he's an addict.) What do you think
of that?
The lettering of the word "fibber" and the spacing before and after it
indicate that the published text differed from the original text Carl wrote
for that panel (I've checked the original printing of US #39, and the text
is identical to the reprinted versions, so the change must have occurred
before the story went to press). The lettering looks to me as though it was
probably done by Gare Barks, but that doesn't settle the question of WHEN it
was done or for what reason. There may indeed have been some kind of
reference to Scrooge's addiction, but in an interview with Carl on 5-29-73 I
asked him about dimensions of his characters that showed up only once and
then disappeared (like Scrooge's bad memory in "Back to the Klondike" or the
addiction to nutmeg tea). Here is what Carl said at that time:
"Each was a gimmick, each was the vehicle or the running gag of the story.
Like the story in which he was addicted to nutmeg tea. I've been beginning
to get some clippings out of this underground comic called Cream that
implies that he was a drug addict because he was addicted to nutmeg, because
nutmeg taken in sufficient quantities can have an effect on your mind. The
reason I chose nutmeg was that it was something that grew in the tropics and
gave him an excuse to go to the tropics. Otherwise I could have said,
'codfish tails,' and sent him to Iceland."
This statement implies strongly that he didn't know about the actual
addictive properties of nutmeg. That doesn't rule out the possibility that
he may have wanted to close out the story with a reference in that final
panel to the situation on the first page of the story and to Scrooge's
feeling (financially) vulnerable if other people found out about his
addiction that tea. Daniel's insight that the chain and collar symbolize
Scrooge's addiction seems brilliant to me. I believe it's the kind of thing
that (as Carl told me many times) "crept into" his stories without his being
consciously aware of it. It's the kind of amazing "unintentional" meaning
that pervades Carl's stories and contributes to their depth.
Donald Ault
Dept. of English
University of Florida
ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu
ault at ufl.edu
http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/
FAX: (352) 332-0551
The lettering of "fibber I am!" looks slightly different from the rest of
the balloon's dialogue. Is this coincidence or could there originally have
been something else? Does the lettering look like being done by somebody
else than Carl or Gare Barks?
The story is about Scrooge being addicted to nutmeg tea. If the dialogue
has been changed, could it originally have contained a reference to his
addiction (instead of a reference to his fibbing in the previous panel)?
To me, the chain and the collar looks like a visualization of Scrooge's
addiction: he's happy having his nutmeg tea again, but by pulling the
chain he hints that he rather would get rid of being dependent of it.
(At least before somebody discovers he's an addict.) What do you think
of that?
The lettering of the word "fibber" and the spacing before and after it
indicate that the published text differed from the original text Carl wrote
for that panel (I've checked the original printing of US #39, and the text
is identical to the reprinted versions, so the change must have occurred
before the story went to press). The lettering looks to me as though it was
probably done by Gare Barks, but that doesn't settle the question of WHEN it
was done or for what reason. There may indeed have been some kind of
reference to Scrooge's addiction, but in an interview with Carl on 5-29-73 I
asked him about dimensions of his characters that showed up only once and
then disappeared (like Scrooge's bad memory in "Back to the Klondike" or the
addiction to nutmeg tea). Here is what Carl said at that time:
"Each was a gimmick, each was the vehicle or the running gag of the story.
Like the story in which he was addicted to nutmeg tea. I've been beginning
to get some clippings out of this underground comic called Cream that
implies that he was a drug addict because he was addicted to nutmeg, because
nutmeg taken in sufficient quantities can have an effect on your mind. The
reason I chose nutmeg was that it was something that grew in the tropics and
gave him an excuse to go to the tropics. Otherwise I could have said,
'codfish tails,' and sent him to Iceland."
This statement implies strongly that he didn't know about the actual
addictive properties of nutmeg. That doesn't rule out the possibility that
he may have wanted to close out the story with a reference in that final
panel to the situation on the first page of the story and to Scrooge's
feeling (financially) vulnerable if other people found out about his
addiction that tea. Daniel's insight that the chain and collar symbolize
Scrooge's addiction seems brilliant to me. I believe it's the kind of thing
that (as Carl told me many times) "crept into" his stories without his being
consciously aware of it. It's the kind of amazing "unintentional" meaning
that pervades Carl's stories and contributes to their depth.
Donald Ault
Dept. of English
University of Florida
ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu
ault at ufl.edu
http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/
FAX: (352) 332-0551
Apostolis Trikourakis
Carl Barks first story on-line!
Message 102 -
2000-12-11 at 21:38:38
Dear DCML members
Yesterday I checked Favio's "Disney Comics on the Web" (
http://members.forez.com/livia/index.php3 ) and I saw a story called "Pluto
Saves the Ship first Barks story, Greek version". It was scans from the
special "Pluto Saves the Ship" edition for Komix subscribers! It's in greek
ofcourse but I can translate the scans, if you want.
If you don't know about that, let me tell you that "Donald Duck finds Pirate
Gold" is not Carl's first story. "Pluto saves the Ship" is an older story
with Pluto, 51 pages long.
Best Wishes
Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix at compulink.gr & komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage
Yesterday I checked Favio's "Disney Comics on the Web" (
http://members.forez.com/livia/index.php3 ) and I saw a story called "Pluto
Saves the Ship first Barks story, Greek version". It was scans from the
special "Pluto Saves the Ship" edition for Komix subscribers! It's in greek
ofcourse but I can translate the scans, if you want.
If you don't know about that, let me tell you that "Donald Duck finds Pirate
Gold" is not Carl's first story. "Pluto saves the Ship" is an older story
with Pluto, 51 pages long.
Best Wishes
Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix at compulink.gr & komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage
Ugo Dell'Arciprete
R: Old movies
Message 103 -
2000-12-12 at 02:43:58
> From: "Luca Boschi" <cnotw at zen.it>
>
> Its title is PLUTO IN: INDOVINA CHI VIENE A CUCCIA? (Yes, its title is
> inspired to the old Giuseppe Patroni Griffi's movie starring Florinda
> Bolkan)
>
Luca
I guess you mean the old movie with Spencer Tracy and Sidney Poitier, called
in Italy "Indovina chi viene a cena?".
The one you mention with Florinda Bolkan was "Metti una sera a cena".
Ugo
>
> Its title is PLUTO IN: INDOVINA CHI VIENE A CUCCIA? (Yes, its title is
> inspired to the old Giuseppe Patroni Griffi's movie starring Florinda
> Bolkan)
>
Luca
I guess you mean the old movie with Spencer Tracy and Sidney Poitier, called
in Italy "Indovina chi viene a cena?".
The one you mention with Florinda Bolkan was "Metti una sera a cena".
Ugo
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Illustration copyrights
Message 105 -
2000-12-12 at 11:49:43
No, I'm not about to rekindle the copyright debate we recently had...
rather, I need some help from someone regarding the practical application
of said rights. I trust the good people on this list to know all the
answers, as usual.
If I'm publishing an article about Carl Barks and want to illustrate it
with some photos from his youth, such as the ones found, for example, in
Michael Barrier's book - who do I ask for permission? Also, I'm interested
in using some caricatures made by his partners at the Disney studio, as
well as some of Barks' own cartoons from the Calgary Eye-Opener or
something like it. (Bruce Hamilton published a facsimile of one similar
magazine from the 30's some time ago.)
I already have the pictures I want to use, but how do I obtain the right to
use them? If anybody can help, please contact me in private as soon as
possible:
pyas at swipnet.se
Thanks in advance!
S Di?s
rather, I need some help from someone regarding the practical application
of said rights. I trust the good people on this list to know all the
answers, as usual.
If I'm publishing an article about Carl Barks and want to illustrate it
with some photos from his youth, such as the ones found, for example, in
Michael Barrier's book - who do I ask for permission? Also, I'm interested
in using some caricatures made by his partners at the Disney studio, as
well as some of Barks' own cartoons from the Calgary Eye-Opener or
something like it. (Bruce Hamilton published a facsimile of one similar
magazine from the 30's some time ago.)
I already have the pictures I want to use, but how do I obtain the right to
use them? If anybody can help, please contact me in private as soon as
possible:
pyas at swipnet.se
Thanks in advance!
S Di?s