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Hi
>

HARRY
>
>Michel Nadorp. Not traced, he *drew* a half page.
Sorry about that.
What did Klein do then - they are both credited for the half page,
in the Inducks.
>
>> D 2001-068 (no credits in the credit-line which only says
>> Barks)
>
>Script: David Gerstein
>Art: Daan Jippes
Thanks.

>> Wasn't Rob's/the other guy's version fitting
>
>I think you must agree that this Gerstein/Jippes version is gorgeous! It
>looks much better than the Klein/Nadorp version.
I don't have the latter with me, so i can't compare right now.

>It is also probably closer
>to the original (e.g. it has no title, and it has dialogue in the first
>panel).
I thoyght about the possiblity of the fan who originally bought the
half-page
having showed it to either one of the makers? - I agree that it looks
great.
The 10-pagers had no title at that time - oops, I guess I don't know
my Barks as good as I should at this time...

>On the other hand, this new version is still based on Rob Klein's
>findings.
>But this time worked out with the knowledge of today (in stead of decades
>ago), and with an excellent artist (nearly no-one can beat Jippes).
You're entitled to have that opinion :-)
>
>--Harry.
>(I'm Dutch, not ducth)
Sorry, I never did understand that about the nationalities/languages being
in capital
in english, so that's why i can't remember it well...

About the code - what code would the story have had - and did another
story get that?
instead of the new D-code what code do you think the 9 ? original pages
should have had. I don't know myself, i have alternative. In inducks i'ts
called CS WDC 60, right? - to show that it was originally WDC 60 but never
published.

I do hope the danish publisher has been reasonable enough to call it Glade
Jul, as that's our version of Silent night/Stlle nacht (Gruber). Is it a
misatke to call it Stilla nat in swedish -do you sing that at Christmas,
or do you sing Glada jul?

Stefan:
We do know about this publication system in Scandinavia, the same issues
comes out but some days apart, first in sweden, on friday (though supposed
to be on stands following monday?), then in Norway on tuesday and in
denmark on thursday. I was annoyed that i didn't get my subscriber's issue
today, but I'll live.

The danish weekly isn't officially published untill tomorrow - it's
possible that some shops have it on stands now, but it's not something the
companies like, that the sellers put their mag's on the stands before
publication date. It can cause you to be erased of the seller's list, if i
understood right.

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist

Claudio:
>Perhaps someone has a "private collection" of digests and is willing to
>provide access to the missing second incarnation? (That would be december
>1995 to (about) december 1999 or what else you have. Every bit will be okay)
>
>Or is there any other way to receive the information?

Yes, there is.

Try searching http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search
with "fa.disney-comics" on the newsgroup-field.

--
Ari Seppi (mani at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Eritt?in fanaattinen Harry Potter -kirjojen ja Disney-sarjakuvien palvoja

>>Or is there any other way to receive the information?
>Yes, there is.
>Try searching http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search
>with "fa.disney-comics" on the newsgroup-field.

It does not contain all messages, only sopme of them. Almost nothing from 1997 for instance.
Also, when people click on "post a message" it will only be visible on Google ...

Favio

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Le journal des abonn?s Caramail - http://www.carazine.com

Nils Lid Hjort asked the following about HD&L:
>>>Are there Barks stories, or other Duck stories, where one of the
three spends significant amounts of time apart from the other two?
One of my favourite examples of this is the Barks story where U$ and the
boys end up on an island where a scientist is trying to invent a ray that
was supposed to deodorise cabbage, but turned people to stone instead. Not
only do the nephews spend time apart but one of them gets vitrified!
I think this is a great example of a suspense technique used by Barks; we
are used to seeing the 3 nephews together, so when one is separated by
events there is added tension and drama until they are reunited. Add in
Beagle Boys and the need to rescue Donald and the nephew from the stone ray
and you get a really gripping plot.
Shaun

Regarding Carl Barks' original first 1/2 page of his 1945 Christmas story
(originally slated for Walt Disney's Comics and Stories Jan. 1946 issue:

i believe that he did NOT "SELL" it to a fan. He told me in 1966, that he GAVE
it to an acquaintence "many years ago". I assume that event occured during the
late 1940s, not so very long after the rejected story art was returned to him.

Rob
Klein

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Anders Christian:

>I do hope the danish publisher has been reasonable enough to call it Glade
>Jul, as that's our version of Silent night/Stlle nacht (Gruber). Is it a
>misatke to call it Stilla nat in swedish -do you sing that at Christmas,
>or do you sing Glada jul?

Yes, very much do we sing "Stilla natt, heliga natt", as in "Stille Nacht,
heilige Nacht". It works well and is one of the favorite Xmas songs in our
country, too. For the comics title, we chose (OK, I chose) to add a
question mark to the title; so the story is called "Stilla natt?".

If it happens to be called something else than "Glade jul" in Denmark (as I
think was the case in Norway), I'm not sure that's really is a mistake.
There is a distinct point that the night is everything but silent during
the course of this story. "Glade jul" ("Happy Christmas") may be a good
text for the carol, but doesn't convey quite the same irony here. Of
course, Donald might sing it in the story, but in my opinion, another title
could very well be picked for the story itself. As also was pointed out, it
has no original title. When talking about it with my friends, I seem to
remember that we used to call it "Christmas Carols".

And Rob:

>i believe that he did NOT "SELL" it to a fan. He told me in 1966, that he
>GAVE
>it to an acquaintence "many years ago". I assume that event occured during
>the
>late 1940s, not so very long after the rejected story art was returned to him.

Obviously, I suppose, it has been impossible during all these years to find
out who that acquaintance was, and what might have happened to the drawing?
I'm sure every fan has been wondering about that for years... but do you
recall what Barks said about it? Maybe he forgot who the person was, or
didn't want to tell?

Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden

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> 6. Re: New Barks story in "Donald Duck & Co" today! (Vidar Svendsen)
> 7. My story (Olaf Solstrand)
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