Keskustelujen arkisto

I am shocked and awed that no one from the
list has come to my aid in obtaining the
French PICSOU version of GUARDIANS OF THE LOST LIBRARY.

I have a multitude of comics and toys or even hard U$ currency
that I am willing to part with so that I may obtain a copy of this story.

Isn't there a kind soul out there who would like to help a completist?
Help me, Obi Wan!

Michael

Anyone know what the story is with these? licensed? bootleg?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3980&item=2246103682&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Hi All,

Otter Press in Australia has launched three titles in Australia and New
Zealand in April, bringing back classic Disney comics to Australia after
over 25 years. They are exact copies of the following three titles
published by Gemstone: Walt Disney's Comics and Stories, Uncle Scrooge and
Mickey Mouse and Friends.

The Disney comics will be available at all leading newsagents, major retail
groups, independent supermarkets, book shops and other specialty stores
where comics are sold throughout Australia and New Zealand.

You can find their address and more information on my website at
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/publisher.asp?publisherid=154

Kind regards,
Arthur
<http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw>

DC Comics does not reprint old Mort Weisinger era stories in SUPERMAN, nor
does it run Julius Schwartz edited stories in GREEN LANTERN. For better
(...or sometimes worse), DC continues to break new ground in its periodical
titles.
Why would we ask differently of Gemstone?
--------------------------------------

To me, I think one of the reasons Gemstone/Gladstone, etc. reprint old
stories(besides some of the stories' high quality), is because, unlike Marvel/DC,
the characters essentially look the same, no matter when they were made. While
each artist has their own style, does a 1945 Donald Duck comic really look that
incredibly different from a 2004 Donald Duck story? Not really. Marvel/DC
can't reprint their old comics in their new titles because they keep chaniging
the looks of the characters so much. There's a world of difference between 1939
Batman and 2004 Batman or the original Xmen and today's stories.

Not to mention, the type of audience DC/Marvel are aiming at with their new
comics, would probably gag just looking at the older stories, before they ever
read them. And if they got past that, they'd probably throw the comic away
before they finished reading the stories. You can't have a modern-day superhero
comic without the usual angst and cliches. The old stories have their own
cliches, but not nearly the angst, so Marvel/DC's typical audience wouldn't go for
them. So Marvel/DC can't reprint old stories for two reasons, the big changes
in art and stories. They can only reprint them in books, geared at people who
are specifically looking for those old stories.

Plus you have to add in the insane continuties that Marvel/DC have done over
the years. I suppose Marvel is more guilty of this than anyone, but they've
changed the characters/relationships/events/origins so much over the years, that
the modern day superhero reader couldn't or wouldn't bother to follow along,
the characters would be so different from the new stories they are reading
today.

So to get this back to Gemstone, they can do reprints in their current comics
that Marvel/DC could never do, because Disney comics have to a certain extent
in both art and stories, remained the same from the 1940's to the present
day. The closest thing Disney has to a continuty is the Barks 'canon'(and even he
didn't follow it that closely) and writers/artists can, if they choose, more
or less ignore all of that. Their story choices aren't nearly as dictated to
them as closely as Marvel/DC do their characters(they also have to be on the
lookout on how to change their characters to fit the mold of the latest movie
they've released, how many redesigns have the Xmen undergone since the movies
came out?)

As far as what I think of reprints, in regards to Barks, I hope more emphasis
will be placed on his late 60's work, the stories that haven't been reprinted
much, if at all. I hope Gemstone starts printing more Romano Scarpa
stories(though I have my own theory that the more Scarpa stories a US publisher prints,
the closer they are to giving up their license/going out of business).

In the end, I think Disney readers are divided into three camps: Those who
have read all the old stories and want to read new ones, those who haven't read
all the old stories and probably want a mixture of old and new, and those who
have read every Carl Barks story ever and want to re-re-re-re-read them yet
again(Tip: Mention the name Tony Strobl to them. If they immediately launch into
a diatribe about how Strobl and everyone else except Barks was/is a complete
hack(except maybe, a big maybe for Don Rosa), then you've met one of those
people). Hopefully Gemstone will focus on the first two groups, with an emphasis
on the group that wants all new stories.

As for the new Mickey stories, some I like and some I don't. But I don't
think that has anything to do with the style of the stories. Whether it's
detective Mickey, adventuresome Mickey, fantasy Mickey, etc., Mickey has just as many
stereotypes as Donald does(temporarily great at new job, get rich quick
schemes, etc.). The only thing different between the two, is that most
readers(myself included) like/indulge the stereotypes of Donald far more than we do Mickey.
Chalk that up to better writing, differences in the character, whatever.

I guess that's about it for now. I've probably mentioned the words DC and
Marvel more times in this post than months and months of DCML archives(and I will
give myself seven lashes in penance for this sin), but I wanted to illustrate
how very different they and Gemstone are. The comics, the audiences, etc. are
just very different from one another.

To Gary: If you want to print this or any DCML post I make in the future, go
ahead. I don't see the need to give my permission every time I post. It's a
public list, so I'm not saying anything in my posts I wouldn't want anyone to
read. The only difference if a DCML post of mine was published is that instead
of 500 people reading it, 5,000 would.

Derek Smith

Hi,

This is an information for Brazilian Rosa fans. Don will be in Sao Paulo on
May 31st, officially opening the O Mundo dos Quadrinhos event at the
Senac-SP. Here is the schedule of the event for all of you that might be
interested.

Programation
14h30 - 15h30 - Lecture by Roberto Elisio dos Santos
15h30 -16h30 - Disney Area (DVD Donald Duck)
16h30 - 18h00 - Chat with Don Rosa

Date: May 31st, 2004
Place: Senac S?o Paulo - Rua Scipi?o, 67
Information and Inscriptions: (11) 3866.2500
Free Entry

I hope many of you will attend !!!

Didier Ghez

I thought that Derek made several good points in his most recent
posting to the ML. If Gemstone is to reprint Barks stories, why not
reprint the stories that have been reprinted the least or not at all?
It seems certain stories get reprinted a number of times and some very
seldom or never. I realize that the ones reprinted the most often are
ones considered to be among Barks best, but I still would rather see a
lesser story by Barks that hasn't be reprinted to death.

I also think Derek did a good job dividing Disney readers into 3
camps. Let's take the last camp: people who have all the Barks
stories and just want to keep re-reading these Barks stories again and
again. Well, people in this camp would seem to have little interest
in Gemstone at all -- they already have all the stories they want to
read. Unless Gemstone comes up with some lost Barks story, they have
nothing to gain by buying a Gemstone comic.

Now lets compare camps one and two: those who want only new
stories and those who don't have all the Barks stories and want to
read ones that are "new" to them. Well, it seems to me, people in
camp two have a big advantage over people in camp one. If someone
wants a particular Barks story, it is not very hard to get a copy of
one. One can look on the Internet, a comic book store, a comic book
convention, etc. and buy the story they want to read. Between
Gladstone I and II and when Disney self published, I believe the large
portion of Barks stories were reprinted in standard comic book format.
If such a story was not reprinted by them, you can still find a copy
in an older Disney comic reprint or original, or get the copy of Carl
Barks Library in Color issue that you want. I am not saying that it
is always very easy or very cheap, but it is also not an impossibly
hard task either.

Compare this to people in camp one. Since I only know one
language (I wish I knew more than one like most Europeans do!) I can
only get new stories that Gemstone publishes. If Gemstone does not
publish a story, it doesn't matter if it has been printed in several
different countries. Since I only know English (and not that even
very well!), if Gemstone does not print it, it is like the story never
exists to me. And since there is such an *incredible* amount of
Disney stories never published in English, I think Gemstone should
largely focus on new stories. I believe Gemstone could publish their
titles for *years* with only new stories! If Gemstone still wants to
reprint some stories, how about the less reprinted ones and/or a
reprints only title?

I don't want to offend any people on the list who want Gemstone to
largely consist of reprinting stories. This is just my personal view.
I hope anyone who disagrees will share their views on the list and let
their voices be heard also!

Dean Rekich

(Gary: feel free to print any portion of this in any Gemstone title)

I think the easiest way to please everyone is not to reprint any stories that have appeared in a comic book (CBL doesn't count...either of them) in 15 years. This way we'd see reprints that we haven't seen in some time, and by necessity, there would be plenty of new stories.

Make sense?

rodney.

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