How/why are certain characters declared dead/offlimits? Is there some creative/artistic reason for doing so, or is it some corporate decision? While I'm sure the decisions are made thoughtfully, from the outside looking in, some of the decisions about who is "dead" and who isn't seem sort of arbitrary or haphazard.
The reason is Ludwig Von Drake isn"t that popular in comicbooks that much altough he had had a small four color series and was used by Walt disney only for television.Dell later had his own merchandising and later he dropped out.I like Ludwig Von Drake hes really funny. Egmont won"t use him cause he isn"t that popular in Europe because America had more acsess to televison and comicbooks.I hate the idea considering he"s dead if I was at Egmont is say screw that and for Hortense who can really say there dead. Not there choice Barks and Disney are the creators they can say that not Egmont.
Besides I doubt that could get away with this.
Adel
Author
Topic: 200412
(110 messages)
Adel Khan
Dead Characters
Message 61 -
2004-12-22 at 19:08:59
Thad Komorowski
DCML Digest, Vol 22, Issue 17 - "The Old Castle's OTHER Secret"
Message 62 -
2004-12-22 at 19:11:18
Mr. Rosa:
Thank you for your time to answer my questions! I really appreciate it.
Here's hoping Ludwig can appear in a future story. (But I'm still looking
forward to your stories that are being published this year)
-Thad Komorowski
Thank you for your time to answer my questions! I really appreciate it.
Here's hoping Ludwig can appear in a future story. (But I'm still looking
forward to your stories that are being published this year)
-Thad Komorowski
Mickey
DCML Digest Issue 17
Message 63 -
2004-12-22 at 19:17:35
From Don Rosa:
> Maybe somebody will do it for me...?
I can try!
Mickey
> Maybe somebody will do it for me...?
I can try!
Mickey
Lars Jensen
Comic Zone
Message 64 -
2004-12-22 at 19:25:14
More comics from Disney itself in 2005.
http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23762
Lars
http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23762
Lars
Gary Leach
CBL
Message 65 -
2004-12-22 at 19:37:17
Cord:
> Will it feature a completely new coloring? Or the coloring of the Barks
> Library in Color?
It will be some of each, with certain shadings in between. My wife
Susan is helping to coordinate this, sometimes providing new color,
mainly for the material that wasn't published in Gladstone's CBL in
Color, but also in some cases where the original Gladstone color files
were lost due to the inconsistent nature of archiving back in the early
'90s.
> Will there be an English edition any[w]here?
It is expected that there will be. However, the European editions are
the only ones in production, or even scheduled, at this time.
Gary
> Will it feature a completely new coloring? Or the coloring of the Barks
> Library in Color?
It will be some of each, with certain shadings in between. My wife
Susan is helping to coordinate this, sometimes providing new color,
mainly for the material that wasn't published in Gladstone's CBL in
Color, but also in some cases where the original Gladstone color files
were lost due to the inconsistent nature of archiving back in the early
'90s.
> Will there be an English edition any[w]here?
It is expected that there will be. However, the European editions are
the only ones in production, or even scheduled, at this time.
Gary
Mads Jensen
Carl Barks Collection
Message 66 -
2004-12-22 at 20:41:40
Hi Cord,
There will be a Carl Barks Collection in the Nordic countries as well; same format as the one you mention with colors.
Regarding the coloring, then Egmont started to use the American coloring for more and more books, including the Hall of Fame books, and has also used the coloring in the past. Some months ago I read that they were looking at the colorings done in the past, and deciding which were to done again. I guess it'll be a big surprise :D
Hope this answers your question.
Merry Christmas to everyone!
Mads
There will be a Carl Barks Collection in the Nordic countries as well; same format as the one you mention with colors.
Regarding the coloring, then Egmont started to use the American coloring for more and more books, including the Hall of Fame books, and has also used the coloring in the past. Some months ago I read that they were looking at the colorings done in the past, and deciding which were to done again. I guess it'll be a big surprise :D
Hope this answers your question.
Merry Christmas to everyone!
Mads
Shaun Craill
Dead Characters
Message 67 -
2004-12-22 at 21:36:47
Derek Smith wrote:
How/why are certain characters declared dead/offlimits?
<snip>
My personal opinion, if the story is good and if the characters are true
to their spirit, then who cares what characters are used in the story? A
writer/artist should be able to use whoever they wish if the above is
fulfilled.
I would agree with this wholeheartedly. I personally have a soft spot
for Ludwig von Drake and Emil Eagle, both of whom seem to be in
disfavour. I don't think of these characters as dead, just absent from
Duckburg for a while. In Emil's case, the artwork of his past stories
has made him seem a little wooden; perhaps it would take the zany
writing and artistic talents of someone like William van Horn to bring
him back to print.
Shaun Craill
(in a supposedly summery Auckland, I'm off to the beach for Christmas
for sun, sand and surf if this unseasonable rain ever stops)
How/why are certain characters declared dead/offlimits?
<snip>
My personal opinion, if the story is good and if the characters are true
to their spirit, then who cares what characters are used in the story? A
writer/artist should be able to use whoever they wish if the above is
fulfilled.
I would agree with this wholeheartedly. I personally have a soft spot
for Ludwig von Drake and Emil Eagle, both of whom seem to be in
disfavour. I don't think of these characters as dead, just absent from
Duckburg for a while. In Emil's case, the artwork of his past stories
has made him seem a little wooden; perhaps it would take the zany
writing and artistic talents of someone like William van Horn to bring
him back to print.
Shaun Craill
(in a supposedly summery Auckland, I'm off to the beach for Christmas
for sun, sand and surf if this unseasonable rain ever stops)
KUR
Don Rosa FAQ
Message 68 -
2004-12-22 at 21:58:07
Why ther'a Don Rosa FAQ here :
http://www.don-mcduck.de/specials/fanquestions.html
http://www.don-mcduck.de/specials/fanquestions.html
Lars Jensen
Dead Characters
Message 69 -
2004-12-22 at 22:33:58
Adel Khan wrote:
>> How/why are certain characters declared dead/offlimits?
>
> The reason is Ludwig Von Drake isn"t that popular in comicbooks [...]
> Egmont won"t use him cause he isn"t that popular in Europe [...]
No, as Don Rosa said Egmont decided to "kill off" Ludwig because they
don't like that character. It has nothing to do with whatever popularity
LVD may or may not have in Europe or in Disney comics in general.
> Not there choice Barks and Disney are the creators they can say that
> not Egmont.
While making comics, Barks never had any say in which character was dead
and which was alive. (I fail to understand why Barks would be seen as an
authority on Ludwig, anyway.) And yes, Egmont actually does have the
power to decide whether it wants to use Ludwig Von Drake. As Don said.
Lars
>> How/why are certain characters declared dead/offlimits?
>
> The reason is Ludwig Von Drake isn"t that popular in comicbooks [...]
> Egmont won"t use him cause he isn"t that popular in Europe [...]
No, as Don Rosa said Egmont decided to "kill off" Ludwig because they
don't like that character. It has nothing to do with whatever popularity
LVD may or may not have in Europe or in Disney comics in general.
> Not there choice Barks and Disney are the creators they can say that
> not Egmont.
While making comics, Barks never had any say in which character was dead
and which was alive. (I fail to understand why Barks would be seen as an
authority on Ludwig, anyway.) And yes, Egmont actually does have the
power to decide whether it wants to use Ludwig Von Drake. As Don said.
Lars
Mnaiman1
Greetings
Message 70 -
2004-12-22 at 23:00:14
I've decided to stop lurking for a bit and wish
everyone on the list a HAPPY, HEALTHY NEW YEAR!
Best,
Michael Naiman
everyone on the list a HAPPY, HEALTHY NEW YEAR!
Best,
Michael Naiman
KUR
Dead Characters
Message 71 -
2004-12-23 at 00:12:59
Adel Khan :
> Egmont won"t use him cause he isn"t that popular in Europe
He isn't ? True he don't aperd in Egmont (since he's Death) but he still
aperd in many of Italian storys... And a lot.
>No, as Don Rosa said Egmont decided to "kill off" Ludwig because they
>don't like that character.
I stil don't get what the Editors have agianst Ludwig. He's intereting
Charecter and a funy one (actualy much better in Cartoons thean in comics,
but still interesting).
>And yes, Egmont actually does have the
>power to decide whether it wants to use Ludwig Von Drake.
Sow ther is a posibilyty theat he will "Reais from the Grave" one day?
Yours
Maciek
> Egmont won"t use him cause he isn"t that popular in Europe
He isn't ? True he don't aperd in Egmont (since he's Death) but he still
aperd in many of Italian storys... And a lot.
>No, as Don Rosa said Egmont decided to "kill off" Ludwig because they
>don't like that character.
I stil don't get what the Editors have agianst Ludwig. He's intereting
Charecter and a funy one (actualy much better in Cartoons thean in comics,
but still interesting).
>And yes, Egmont actually does have the
>power to decide whether it wants to use Ludwig Von Drake.
Sow ther is a posibilyty theat he will "Reais from the Grave" one day?
Yours
Maciek
Lars Jensen
Dead Characters
Message 72 -
2004-12-23 at 00:27:52
Maciek wrote:
>> And yes, Egmont actually does have the
>> power to decide whether it wants to use Ludwig Von Drake.
>
> Sow ther is a posibilyty theat he will "Reais from the Grave" one day?
Sure. In theory, Egmont could revive Ludwig tomorrow. I doubt they will,
but they could.
And I like Ludwig, too.
Lars
>> And yes, Egmont actually does have the
>> power to decide whether it wants to use Ludwig Von Drake.
>
> Sow ther is a posibilyty theat he will "Reais from the Grave" one day?
Sure. In theory, Egmont could revive Ludwig tomorrow. I doubt they will,
but they could.
And I like Ludwig, too.
Lars
Nils
Santa exists
Message 73 -
2004-12-23 at 03:03:41
Best wishes for the Christmas season to everyone on the list!
Santa exists, as three colleagues & I try to prove here:
http://www.forskning.no/Artikler/2004/desember/1103548414.2
You'll notice my barksian argument.
You are all cordially [but implicitly] mentioned here, by the way:
http://www.forskning.no/Artikler/2004/desember/1102088985.3
Nils Lid Hjort
... who claims it a Magnum Mysterium that his (and his friends')
last CD has sold 10,000 copies over the past eight weeks.
The perfect Christmas gift:
http://www.2l.no/2L.htm
http://www.2l.no/anm/2L26presseklipp.html
Santa exists, as three colleagues & I try to prove here:
http://www.forskning.no/Artikler/2004/desember/1103548414.2
You'll notice my barksian argument.
You are all cordially [but implicitly] mentioned here, by the way:
http://www.forskning.no/Artikler/2004/desember/1102088985.3
Nils Lid Hjort
... who claims it a Magnum Mysterium that his (and his friends')
last CD has sold 10,000 copies over the past eight weeks.
The perfect Christmas gift:
http://www.2l.no/2L.htm
http://www.2l.no/anm/2L26presseklipp.html
Fernando Ventura
A Fethry Duck Xmas card...more or less!
Message 74 -
2004-12-23 at 03:49:22
Ola Martinsson (AS/EAB)
From all of me to all of you
Message 75 -
2004-12-23 at 10:17:21
I just want to wish all you helpful people full of knowledge on this list a Merry Christmas
Ola in an icy Stockholm, day is breaking now and the clock is 9:16
Ola in an icy Stockholm, day is breaking now and the clock is 9:16