Nils Hjort wrote:
> Thanks to Elaine Ramshaw for a thoughtful and eloquent
> contribution, re HDL's emotional maturity, their sense
> of self-identity, &c. One is reminded of Daisy's nieces
> April, May, June, who *sometimes* are portrayed as having
> more distinct, or at least visually distinguishable, personalities:
> one has a ponytail, another a moptop, the third has pigtails.
> Can we imagine HDL adopting slightly different visual
> characteristics [apart from the colours of their caps]?
> Different t-shirts, tattoos, piercing, eltonjohnian glasses?
As many people may recall (try as they might NOT to!), Huey, Dewey, and Louie had distinctive "looks" and personalities in the TV series Quack Pack. Earlier, Dewey got a bit of distinctive characterization (or at least a trait that distinguished him from the other kids) in the DuckTales episode "Duck in the Iron Mask," wherein he's described at being "the best at coming up with escape plans." Take these as canonical or non- as you wish.
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Kimba1962
DCML Digest, Vol 31, Issue 5 (HD&L)
Message 31 -
2005-09-05 at 19:24:09
Rob Klein
Huey, Dewey and Louie origin
Message 32 -
2005-09-06 at 10:34:24
Santiago: Huey, Dewey and Louie were created only for use in the Cartoon, "Donald's
Nephews" (1939?), BEFORE he ever used them in a comic book story ("Pirate Gold" in
1942). That was also BEFORE Taliaferro used them in the Donald Duck comic
newspaper strip. Once they were triplets in that cartoon, and had appeared with Donald
in MANY, MANY more cartoons BEFORE Barks first used them in comics, they were
already popular as triplets, with the same personality. So, he couldn't change those
"facts" about
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Nephews" (1939?), BEFORE he ever used them in a comic book story ("Pirate Gold" in
1942). That was also BEFORE Taliaferro used them in the Donald Duck comic
newspaper strip. Once they were triplets in that cartoon, and had appeared with Donald
in MANY, MANY more cartoons BEFORE Barks first used them in comics, they were
already popular as triplets, with the same personality. So, he couldn't change those
"facts" about
them.
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Huey, Dewey and Louie origin
Message 33 -
2005-09-06 at 15:13:32
Rob Klein:
> Santiago: Huey, Dewey and Louie were created only
> for use in the Cartoon, [...]
Thanks for the info, Rob.
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> Santiago: Huey, Dewey and Louie were created only
> for use in the Cartoon, [...]
Thanks for the info, Rob.
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Message 34 -
2005-09-06 at 18:59:31
Chris Barat wrote:
> As many people may recall (try as they might NOT to!), Huey, Dewey,
> and Louie had distinctive "looks" and personalities in the TV
> series Quack Pack. Earlier, Dewey got a bit of distinctive
> characterization (or at least a trait that distinguished him from
> the other kids) in the DuckTales episode "Duck in the Iron Mask,"
> wherein he's described at being "the best at coming up with escape
> plans." Take these as canonical or non- as you wish.
Here's my reading: Just as "Donald's Nephews" gives us the first
manifestation of Huey, Dewey and Louie, so did legends of some
ancient tribal warrior(s) in Briton provide the first manifestation
of King Arthur. It took Barks, in the realm of comics, to bring us
the full realization of the classic nephews, just as Malory gave us
the full flowering of the classic romance of Arthur. Neither is
really Canon in the Biblical sense - a set of works accepted as
sacred - but they do stand as canon, that is, criteria by which other
works may be judged.
I guess the thing to consider is whether something like "DuckTales"
or "Quack Pack" gives us anything towards the nephews that's on the
same order as what T.H. White's "Once and Future King" - or, to stay
in the realm of film, "Excalibur" or Disney's "Sword in the Stone" -
gives us towards King Arthur. Personally, I don't think they make the
grade.
Gary
> As many people may recall (try as they might NOT to!), Huey, Dewey,
> and Louie had distinctive "looks" and personalities in the TV
> series Quack Pack. Earlier, Dewey got a bit of distinctive
> characterization (or at least a trait that distinguished him from
> the other kids) in the DuckTales episode "Duck in the Iron Mask,"
> wherein he's described at being "the best at coming up with escape
> plans." Take these as canonical or non- as you wish.
Here's my reading: Just as "Donald's Nephews" gives us the first
manifestation of Huey, Dewey and Louie, so did legends of some
ancient tribal warrior(s) in Briton provide the first manifestation
of King Arthur. It took Barks, in the realm of comics, to bring us
the full realization of the classic nephews, just as Malory gave us
the full flowering of the classic romance of Arthur. Neither is
really Canon in the Biblical sense - a set of works accepted as
sacred - but they do stand as canon, that is, criteria by which other
works may be judged.
I guess the thing to consider is whether something like "DuckTales"
or "Quack Pack" gives us anything towards the nephews that's on the
same order as what T.H. White's "Once and Future King" - or, to stay
in the realm of film, "Excalibur" or Disney's "Sword in the Stone" -
gives us towards King Arthur. Personally, I don't think they make the
grade.
Gary
Lars Jensen
Who created Huey, Dewey and Louie?
Message 35 -
2005-09-06 at 22:16:15
Here's an old quote from David Gerstein regarding the boys' origin:
http://stp.lingfil.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-August/018707.html
> I've got WDC&S 523, with an extended article about Al Taliaferro.
> [...]
> * Taliaferro "suggested that the [Disney] Studio create three nephews
> for Donald and feature them in a short. The idea was accepted, and in
> February 1937, the story department sent Taliaferro a memo
> congratulating him on inventing Huey, Dewey, and Louie."
Another quote from Floyd Gottfredson via Petri Kanninen:
http://stp.lingfil.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-August/018405.html
> "The only thing I know in the Comic Strip Department that was adopted
> in the pictures was [Al Taliaferro's] creation of Donald's nephews in
> the Donald Duck daily strip. Al's widow, Lucy, called me recently to
> read me a memo she had found while cleaning up Al's stuff at home.
> It was from someone in the Story Department, thanking Al for having
> created the nephews and telling him that they were going to use them
> in a short and since he created them, they not only wanted to go on
> record as acknowledging the fact that he had, but also wanted to
> recognize it with a check, which they sent him."
Over the years, a lot of people have been involved in the design,
characterization and development of HDL, but it seems Al Taliaferro was
the one who came up with the initial idea of Donald's nephews.
Lars
http://stp.lingfil.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-August/018707.html
> I've got WDC&S 523, with an extended article about Al Taliaferro.
> [...]
> * Taliaferro "suggested that the [Disney] Studio create three nephews
> for Donald and feature them in a short. The idea was accepted, and in
> February 1937, the story department sent Taliaferro a memo
> congratulating him on inventing Huey, Dewey, and Louie."
Another quote from Floyd Gottfredson via Petri Kanninen:
http://stp.lingfil.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-August/018405.html
> "The only thing I know in the Comic Strip Department that was adopted
> in the pictures was [Al Taliaferro's] creation of Donald's nephews in
> the Donald Duck daily strip. Al's widow, Lucy, called me recently to
> read me a memo she had found while cleaning up Al's stuff at home.
> It was from someone in the Story Department, thanking Al for having
> created the nephews and telling him that they were going to use them
> in a short and since he created them, they not only wanted to go on
> record as acknowledging the fact that he had, but also wanted to
> recognize it with a check, which they sent him."
Over the years, a lot of people have been involved in the design,
characterization and development of HDL, but it seems Al Taliaferro was
the one who came up with the initial idea of Donald's nephews.
Lars
Stefan Persson
Huey, Dewey and Louie origin
Message 36 -
2005-09-07 at 06:18:13
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Rob Klein wrote:
> Santiago: Huey, Dewey and Louie were created only for use in the Cartoon, "Donald's
> Nephews" (1939?), BEFORE he ever used them in a comic book story ("Pirate Gold" in
> 1942). That was also BEFORE Taliaferro used them in the Donald Duck comic
> newspaper strip.
Movie = 1938-04-15
1st Taliaferro usage = 1937-10-17
Stefan
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Rob Klein wrote:
> Santiago: Huey, Dewey and Louie were created only for use in the Cartoon, "Donald's
> Nephews" (1939?), BEFORE he ever used them in a comic book story ("Pirate Gold" in
> 1942). That was also BEFORE Taliaferro used them in the Donald Duck comic
> newspaper strip.
Movie = 1938-04-15
1st Taliaferro usage = 1937-10-17
Stefan
Lars Jensen
Barks' pencil layout to 'King Scrooge the first' found.
Message 37 -
2005-09-07 at 11:58:57
Poul Frokjar wrote:
> In Scandinavia the first set in a new 10 set-edition Barks library
> [...] Also shown in the new CBL.
Just to be clear: the Carl Barks Collection (in Denmark called "Carl
Barks' samlede vaerker") is *not* the same as Carl Barks Library. They
are two different projects -- although, yes, there are several major
similarities. You might as well call Walt Disney's Comics & Stories for
"Anders And & Co." or vice versa.
Lars
> In Scandinavia the first set in a new 10 set-edition Barks library
> [...] Also shown in the new CBL.
Just to be clear: the Carl Barks Collection (in Denmark called "Carl
Barks' samlede vaerker") is *not* the same as Carl Barks Library. They
are two different projects -- although, yes, there are several major
similarities. You might as well call Walt Disney's Comics & Stories for
"Anders And & Co." or vice versa.
Lars
Lars Jensen
Mestres Disney - Renato Canini first images
Message 38 -
2005-09-07 at 22:47:59
Fernando Ventura wrote:
> http://www.bigorna.net/index.php?secao=noticias&id=1124373843
I had to "read" the article and look at Canini's artwork more than once
before I was able to form an opinion, but... Wow! This is different, to
put it mildly. There's an "underground" feel to his drawings that, as
far as Disney comics go, before I've seen only in Don Rosa's stories.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing, Fernando.
Lars
> http://www.bigorna.net/index.php?secao=noticias&id=1124373843
I had to "read" the article and look at Canini's artwork more than once
before I was able to form an opinion, but... Wow! This is different, to
put it mildly. There's an "underground" feel to his drawings that, as
far as Disney comics go, before I've seen only in Don Rosa's stories.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing, Fernando.
Lars
Rob Klein
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Message 39 -
2005-09-08 at 11:54:41
Thank you, Stephan Persson for providing us the actual dates of firt appearance of Huey,
Dewey and Louie in films (4/1938) and newspaper strip (10/1937).
I had read that they were "created specifically for a Donald Duck short cartoon, and knew
that Disney usually had Taliaferro introduce upcoming new cartoon characters first,
before the cartoon was released. generally, the Disney Animation Dept. would design
the character, and send a model sheet to Taliaferro. The cartoons usually had a few
month lead time from character design to release. But, it is clear in this case, that
Taliaferro must have used the characters of HD&L long before production on the cartoon
started, and clearly designed the characters, himself, in this case. So, in actuality, he
must have invented them for his needs in the Donald Duck newspaper strip, and only
suggested they be used in the cartoons, for consistancy. He had been ordered to keep
the newspaper strip consistant with what was going on in the cartoon shorts. Good thing
for him and Barks, that Disney Animation chose to use them!
Rob
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Dewey and Louie in films (4/1938) and newspaper strip (10/1937).
I had read that they were "created specifically for a Donald Duck short cartoon, and knew
that Disney usually had Taliaferro introduce upcoming new cartoon characters first,
before the cartoon was released. generally, the Disney Animation Dept. would design
the character, and send a model sheet to Taliaferro. The cartoons usually had a few
month lead time from character design to release. But, it is clear in this case, that
Taliaferro must have used the characters of HD&L long before production on the cartoon
started, and clearly designed the characters, himself, in this case. So, in actuality, he
must have invented them for his needs in the Donald Duck newspaper strip, and only
suggested they be used in the cartoons, for consistancy. He had been ordered to keep
the newspaper strip consistant with what was going on in the cartoon shorts. Good thing
for him and Barks, that Disney Animation chose to use them!
Rob
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Non-Disney art by Paul Murry
Message 40 -
2005-09-08 at 13:26:25
Hello, everyone:
Some time ago, someone in this list was curious about
non-Disney comics drawn by Paul Murry. Well, I've
uploaded two sample pages from a Woody Woodpecker
story by Paul Murry that I've recovered digging at the
deepest of my comics chest :-)
It's in Spanish. You can get it at:
http://www.gratisweb.com/commodore/ww.html
Greetings,
Santiago.
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Some time ago, someone in this list was curious about
non-Disney comics drawn by Paul Murry. Well, I've
uploaded two sample pages from a Woody Woodpecker
story by Paul Murry that I've recovered digging at the
deepest of my comics chest :-)
It's in Spanish. You can get it at:
http://www.gratisweb.com/commodore/ww.html
Greetings,
Santiago.
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The Carl Barks Collection
Message 41 -
2005-09-08 at 14:01:46
The main differences between the European Carl Barks Collection (CBC) and the old Gladstone CBL is that the CBC is printed in color and in chronological order. That means that each book has a blend of publications, e.g. WDC and DD and US and the US book The lemonade king in the same volume.
Ola in cloudy Stockholm +20
Ola in cloudy Stockholm +20
Ciro Di Lella
Scrooge's Trophy Room
Message 42 -
2005-09-08 at 17:46:46
Hi everyone...I was wondering if anyone can help me recognizing all the
objects of Scrooge's Trophy Room in Don Rosa's famous "Anything But Those!"
poster
http://duckman.pettho.com/art/us300b.html
I need the list for my Scrooge web site,
http://www.freespaces.com/scroogemcduck/index.html
Thanks in advance :)
Ciro
objects of Scrooge's Trophy Room in Don Rosa's famous "Anything But Those!"
poster
http://duckman.pettho.com/art/us300b.html
I need the list for my Scrooge web site,
http://www.freespaces.com/scroogemcduck/index.html
Thanks in advance :)
Ciro
Ole Damgaard
Don Rosa and the Orla award
Message 43 -
2005-09-08 at 18:29:37
At the danish comics webzine Seriejournalen.dk you can now read the story
about Don Rosa and the danish Orla litterature award.
The story is available in english:
http://www.seriejournalen.dk/sj_indhold.asp?art=&ID=2160 , and in danish:
http://www.seriejournalen.dk/sj_indhold.asp?art=&ID=2161
/ole
about Don Rosa and the danish Orla litterature award.
The story is available in english:
http://www.seriejournalen.dk/sj_indhold.asp?art=&ID=2160 , and in danish:
http://www.seriejournalen.dk/sj_indhold.asp?art=&ID=2161
/ole
KUR
Scrooge's Trophy Room (obaut Ciro web page)
Message 44 -
2005-09-08 at 21:28:24
Hi Ciro,
I just like to say I viue your web page and It's very good. The background and Menu colors are very nice and it make page plesent to read.
Anny way I like it and I hope it will get bigger soon ;-)
Yours Maciek
P.S.
Take a peak on a small page obaut Gladsotne Gander I made several yers a go :
http://ggzdk.webpark.pl/home.html [Polish Only]
I just like to say I viue your web page and It's very good. The background and Menu colors are very nice and it make page plesent to read.
Anny way I like it and I hope it will get bigger soon ;-)
Yours Maciek
P.S.
Take a peak on a small page obaut Gladsotne Gander I made several yers a go :
http://ggzdk.webpark.pl/home.html [Polish Only]
Rob Klein
Need to Contact David Gerstein and Gary Leach
Message 45 -
2005-09-09 at 11:30:37
Sorry to use DCML for personal business, but I need to contact David Gerstein and
suspect his old Egmont e-mail address is not his current e-mail address.
So, David, if you are lurking here, please contact me at robbklein at yahoo.com. I have a
question that only someone of your expertise in Disney Comic publishing can answer.
Gary Leach could also answer it. So, Gary, if you have a minute, could you please e-mail
me too? Thanks.
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suspect his old Egmont e-mail address is not his current e-mail address.
So, David, if you are lurking here, please contact me at robbklein at yahoo.com. I have a
question that only someone of your expertise in Disney Comic publishing can answer.
Gary Leach could also answer it. So, Gary, if you have a minute, could you please e-mail
me too? Thanks.
Rob
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