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Kai Saarto
Ole Damgaard wrote:

> At the danish comics webzine Seriejournalen.dk you can now read the
> story about Don Rosa and the danish Orla litterature award.
>
> The story is available in english:
> http://www.seriejournalen.dk/sj_indhold.asp?art=&ID=2160 , and in
> danish: http://www.seriejournalen.dk/sj_indhold.asp?art=&ID=2161

Oh my gosh, this is so thick from certain Egmont folks. Thanks for
sharing, Ole.

Just shows how much certain publishers have respect for writers/artists.
Especially that bit about "Rosa only dotted the "i"s" was simply
appalling. Those people could sure use a lesson or two in human behavior.
Daniel J Neyer
I'll give this a shot. First I'll take the objects along the shelf in the
front of the picture, from left to right. First is the tail of the Jade
Elephant (Barks' "Treasure of Marco Polo"), then comes Scrooge's heirloom
watch--handed down from his Uncle Quagmire (from the short Barks story
"Heirloom Watch"). Actually, this could also be the watch that charmed
the Abominable Snowman in Barks' "Lost Crown of Genghis Khan" story. Next
to the watch is a bottle cap (Barks' "Tralla La"), and next to the bottle
cap is a tray of coins from the Treasury of Croeseus (Don Rosa's story of
the same name). The Number One Dime on its pedestal breaks up the shelf
in the center. Continuing on the other side, we have the
skyrillion-dollar 1916 Quarter (Barks' Atlantis story), a golden egg
(Barks' "The Isle of Golden Geese), the locket from Barks' "The Lemming
with the Locket" (I'm not sure about that one), and a square egg from
Plain Awful.

Donald is wearing the Lost Crown of Genghis Khan (from the Barks story by
the same name) and admiring himself in the reflection from one of the
Spanish suits of armor from Barks' "Prize of Pizzaro." He's standing next
to an urn of diamonds (I don't think they're from any story, but I could
be wrong; I'm doing this from memory) and in the iced bucket behind him
is the Bombastium from "A Cold Bargain" by Barks. Next to the Bombastium
is the Candy-Striped Ruby (Barks' "The Status Seeker"). The huge circular
object in the upper left hand corner is the Incan jewelled sunburst from
Rosa's first story, "Son of the Sun", and hanging in front of it is the
Crown of the Mayas (from Barks' story of the same name). Hanging next to
the sunburst is the hammer of Vulcan (from Barks' "Mythic Mystery").

Hanging from the wall on the other side of Scrooge's vault door, we have
the Golden Fleece (from Barks' "The Golden Fleecing"). Behind it is the
Peeweghah Peace Pipe (from Barks' Land of the Pygmy Indians). Below the
peace pipe are Sir Francis Drake's plaque from Rosa's "His Majesty
McDuck" (the square object), and the Medallion of Nostrildamus (from
Rosa's "Curse of Nostrildamus"). Beneath the Drake plaque is the cover of
the original Junior Woodchucks guidebook (or of the last volume of the
Library of Alexandria, whichever you prefer) from Rosa's "Guardians of
the Lost Library." Of course, that's the fabled Goose Egg nugget, from
Barks' "Back to the Klondike", on the pedestal, and the gold bullion is
from "The Flying Dutchman" by Barks. Sitting on top of the Dutchman's
bullion are the Terry-Fermy trophy (Barks' "Land Beneath the Ground") and
the treasure of Sir Quackly (Barks' "The Old Castle's Secret").

Finally, the comics that the nephews are reading are, from left to right,
Uncle Scrooge #1 (the issue with "Only a Poor Old Man"), the first issue
of Walt Disney's Comics and Stories to have a Barks ten-pager (sorry,
don't know the issue number), and the famous Donald Duck Four Color
version of "Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold."

Whew! I think that's it. But I'm sure Don or one of the other members
will let me know if I've missed anything or mis-identified anything.
Gary Leach
Ole:

> The main differences between the European Carl Barks Collection
> (CBC) and the old Gladstone CBL is that the CBC is printed in color
> and in chronological order. That means that each book has a blend
> of publications, e.g. WDC and DD and US and the US book The
> lemonade king in the same volume.

This may sound nitpicky, but the publisher of the hardbound black-and-
white CBL was Another Rainbow, the same company that produced The
Fine Art of Walt Disney's Donald Duck by Carl Barks. A follow-up
series, The Carl Barks Library in Color, was produced by Gladstone -
these were softbound albums, and they were in color. (It should be
noted that this second series published most, but not quite all, of
Bark's Disney duck stories.)

Both Another Rainbow and Gladstone were companies co-founded by Bruce
Hamilton, and the people who worked on Another Rainbow projects were
the same ones who worked on Gladstone projects. But each company had
a different emphasis, a different market arena, and different goals.
Gladstone would have no more issued the black-and-white CBL than
Another Rainbow would have published monthly 32-page comics.

Gary
Kimba1962
Gary Leach wrote:

> Chris Barat wrote:
>
> > As many people may recall (try as they might NOT to!), Huey, Dewey,
> > and Louie had distinctive "looks" and personalities in the TV
> > series Quack Pack. Earlier, Dewey got a bit of distinctive
> > characterization (or at least a trait that distinguished him from
> > the other kids) in the DuckTales episode "Duck in the Iron Mask,"
> > wherein he's described at being "the best at coming up with escape
> > plans." Take these as canonical or non- as you wish.
> Here's my reading: Just as "Donald's Nephews" gives us the first
> manifestation of Huey, Dewey and Louie, so did legends of some
> ancient tribal warrior(s) in Briton provide the first manifestation
> of King Arthur. It took Barks, in the realm of comics, to bring us
> the full realization of the classic nephews, just as Malory gave us
> the full flowering of the classic romance of Arthur. Neither is
> really Canon in the Biblical sense - a set of works accepted as
> sacred - but they do stand as canon, that is, criteria by which other
> works may be judged.>>

This sums things up very well, I think.

> I guess the thing to consider is whether something like "DuckTales"
> or "Quack Pack" gives us anything towards the nephews that's on the
> same order as what T.H. White's "Once and Future King" - or, to stay
> in the realm of film, "Excalibur" or Disney's "Sword in the Stone" -
> gives us towards King Arthur. Personally, I don't think they make the
> grade.

I'll readily agree on the "Quack Pack" Nephews, but not on the "DuckTales" Nephews. The "DT" HD&L are pretty doggone close to Barks' versions, IMHO.
For sure, their voices (in English) are now the voices I hear when I read the Nephews' dialogue in the comics, just as I hear Alan Young, June Foray, Hal Smith when I read the dialogue of Scrooge, Glomgold, Gyro, Magica, etc.

Chris Barat
Mike Devery
Hi all,

as a "serious" stamp collector, I don't usually approve of the myriad of
Disney issues that small dots on the map issue each year, but Australia
Post have recently released quite a nice souvenir Donald Duck booklet
(supposed "70th year"). The interesting thing is that Carl Barks is
mentioned (you can see the exact text on the Aust Post website) and there
is even a small photo of him. If anyone wants a scan of this, let me know.

http://www.auspost.com.au/philatelic/stamps/stampshop_2.asp?pid=191780361&product_type=3&category_id=455

Mike.
Ciro Di Lella
Thanks a lot for the info guys - you will all be credited on my site :)
Mankandrew
Greetings,

The Australia Post stamp sheet of Donald Duck exceeds any and all
expectations. It even refers to Carl Barks as Mr Carl Barks with due
reverence. Now all they need is one on Scrooge McDuck.

Chers,

Martin Andrew
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> 4. Re: Don Rosa and the Orla award (Kai Saarto)
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Gary Leach
Rob:

> Sorry to use DCML for personal business, but I need to contact
> David Gerstein and
> suspect his old Egmont e-mail address is not his current e-mail
> address.
>
> So, David, if you are lurking here, please contact me at
> robbklein at yahoo.com. I have a
> question that only someone of your expertise in Disney Comic
> publishing can answer.
>
> Gary Leach could also answer it. So, Gary, if you have a minute,
> could you please e-mail
> me too? Thanks.

Be glad too, but the e-mail address on your DCML header isn't working
- not for me, anyway.

Gary
Mads Jensen
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Ciro Di Lella wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the info guys - you will all be credited on my site :)

Please do not include my email-address on your website, though!
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Mads Jensen

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Moss, Thomas
The urn of diamonds is from a (I believe) Barks story where
Scrooge, Donald, Huey, Dewey and Louie fly to another country where
there is a flock of birds destroying the country's rice crops. The King
is offering an urn full of diamonds to anyone who can rid the country of
the birds. Scrooge has a bunch of mechanical brass monkeys that he is
unable to sell because the tone made when their cymbals crash together
is annoying, and Donald, conveniently, has finished a correspondence
course in bell-tuning. Donald has the idea to tune the brass monkeys'
cymbals to a different frequency to chase the birds out of the country
and Scrooge can sell all of the brass monkeys to the King and get the
urn full of diamonds. I apologize, but I can't remember the name of the
story, but if I come across it, I will post it. Can anyone else
remember what the story's title is?

Tom

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Donald is wearing the Lost Crown of Genghis Khan (from the Barks story
by
the same name) and admiring himself in the reflection from one of the
Spanish suits of armor from Barks' "Prize of Pizzaro." He's standing
next
to an urn of diamonds (I don't think they're from any story, but I could
be wrong; I'm doing this from memory) and in the iced bucket behind him
is the Bombastium from "A Cold Bargain" by Barks.
Gerd Syllwasschy
Rob Klein wrote:

> I had read that they were "created specifically for a Donald Duck short cartoon, and knew
> that Disney usually had Taliaferro introduce upcoming new cartoon characters first,
> before the cartoon was released. generally, the Disney Animation Dept. would design
> the character, and send a model sheet to Taliaferro. The cartoons usually had a few
> month lead time from character design to release. But, it is clear in this case, that
> Taliaferro must have used the characters of HD&L long before production on the cartoon
> started, and clearly designed the characters, himself, in this case. So, in actuality, he
> must have invented them for his needs in the Donald Duck newspaper strip, and only
> suggested they be used in the cartoons, for consistancy.

Hmmm, I don't quite agree. The story line of the first Donald Duck comic
strips featuring the nephews strongly resembles the animated cartoon.
This means Taliaferro must at least have known some early storyboards
for the cartoon before he drew those strips.

I don't doubt that Taliaferro came up with the idea for Donald's nephews
first. However, it is up to speculation whether Taliaferro contributed
more than a "Hey, let's equip Don with some nephews!" to the whole thing.

Gerd
Ola Martinsson (AS/EAB)
I stand corrected.

Ola in semi cloudy Stockholm +12
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Gary Leach wrote
This may sound nitpicky, but the publisher of the hardbound black-and-
white CBL was Another Rainbow, the same company that produced The
Fine Art of Walt Disney's Donald Duck by Carl Barks. A follow-up
series, The Carl Barks Library in Color, was produced by Gladstone -
these were softbound albums, and they were in color. (It should be
noted that this second series published most, but not quite all, of
Bark's Disney duck stories.)

Both Another Rainbow and Gladstone were companies co-founded by Bruce
Hamilton, and the people who worked on Another Rainbow projects were
the same ones who worked on Gladstone projects. But each company had
a different emphasis, a different market arena, and different goals.
Gladstone would have no more issued the black-and-white CBL than
Another Rainbow would have published monthly 32-page comics.

Gary
Thomas Andrae
Regarding H, D, and L origins: i've written several articles about
this and the story is in my forthcoming book on Barks. The memo thanks
Taliaferro for creating the nephews. He sent a memo to the animation
department. it was common practice for Disney artists to send memos
to the story department with ideas for cartoons. That's how Barks got
transferred into the story department. Hope that this helps.

Best Wishes,

Thomas Andrae

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> Rob Klein wrote:
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>> I had read that they were "created specifically for a Donald Duck
>> short cartoon, and knew
>> that Disney usually had Taliaferro introduce upcoming new cartoon
>> characters first,
>> before the cartoon was released. generally, the Disney Animation
>> Dept. would design
>> the character, and send a model sheet to Taliaferro. The cartoons
>> usually had a few
>> month lead time from character design to release. But, it is clear
>> in this case, that
>> Taliaferro must have used the characters of HD&L long before
>> production on the cartoon
>> started, and clearly designed the characters, himself, in this case.
>> So, in actuality, he
>> must have invented them for his needs in the Donald Duck newspaper
>> strip, and only
>> suggested they be used in the cartoons, for consistancy.
>
> Hmmm, I don't quite agree. The story line of the first Donald Duck
> comic
> strips featuring the nephews strongly resembles the animated cartoon.
> This means Taliaferro must at least have known some early storyboards
> for the cartoon before he drew those strips.
>
> I don't doubt that Taliaferro came up with the idea for Donald's
> nephews
> first. However, it is up to speculation whether Taliaferro contributed
> more than a "Hey, let's equip Don with some nephews!" to the whole
> thing.
>
> Gerd
>
>
>
>
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> Subject: RE: CBC-CBL
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> I stand corrected.
>
> Ola in semi cloudy Stockholm +12
> *****************************************
> Gary Leach wrote
> This may sound nitpicky, but the publisher of the hardbound black-and-
> white CBL was Another Rainbow, the same company that produced The
> Fine Art of Walt Disney's Donald Duck by Carl Barks. A follow-up
> series, The Carl Barks Library in Color, was produced by Gladstone -
> these were softbound albums, and they were in color. (It should be
> noted that this second series published most, but not quite all, of
> Bark's Disney duck stories.)
>
> Both Another Rainbow and Gladstone were companies co-founded by Bruce
> Hamilton, and the people who worked on Another Rainbow projects were
> the same ones who worked on Gladstone projects. But each company had
> a different emphasis, a different market arena, and different goals.
> Gladstone would have no more issued the black-and-white CBL than
> Another Rainbow would have published monthly 32-page comics.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
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Ole Damgaard
Monday, September 12, 2005 5:55 PM Thomas Andrae wrote:

>....the story is in my forthcoming book on Barks.

What book? Tell us more! Which aspects of Barks' life and/or carreer do you
tell about in it? When will it be finished? Will it be in german or english?
Maybe it has it allready been mentioned here, without me noticing it?

/Ole Damgaard.
Vic Pratt
Hi folks

Don't know if anyone is interested but a friend of
mine is selling the whole series of the Gladstone
Mickey Mouse Digest from 1987 on ebay at the moment -
no-one bidding as yet - they finish tomorrow.

All the best
Vic

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