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Søren Krarup Olesen
LAMBIEK:

On Monday 07 November 2005 18:12, Lambiek Studio wrote:
> All Comiclopedia entry pages and images on www.lambiek.net have been moved for reorganization. The pages (about 7,100) used to be in our root directory, but now they are ordered in 26 seperate folders inside our artists folder.

Interesting to see those many scans that you have "stolen" from
the old raptus.dk site :-) It's perfectly okay--now, since the
site doesn't exist anymore. I am only happy that they've become
useful in one way or another...

S?ren
Cord Wiljes
Hi Timo:

> I found out that German Hall of Fame number 3 (which was
> published already a year ago) contains something I have written.

So Ehapa/Egmont did not send you an author's copy? If you ask them they
will probably correct this oversight.

Here is a scan of your articles in "Hall of Fame: Roman Scarpa":

http://www.wiljes.de/tmp/scarpa.pdf (7 MB!)

The two articles you asked for are shorter annotations, probably taken
from longer articles.

BTW: The yellowing towards the spine is intentionally printed in the
book, not a result of bad scanning.

BTW2: Of course Scarpa made it into the list of Top100Comics some
friends and I created some years ago:

http://www.top100comics.de/single_book_international.php?rank=61

Best wishes
Cord
Stefan Persson
On 2005? 11 9 () 10:58 am, Cord Wiljes said:
> So Ehapa/Egmont did not send you an author's copy? If you ask them they
> will probably correct this oversight.

Does any Disney publisher *ever* send an author's copy to *anyone*?

Stefan
Timo Ronkainen
Hello!

Ole:
>allow me to compliment you on that preface (qno HOF 2a), "Den italienske
>mester". Very interesting to read.

Thank you! :-)

Cord:
>Here is a scan of your articles in "Hall of Fame: Roman Scarpa":

Very many thanks to you too! Wonderful! :-)
I have to check those pages. I saved that PDF on my computer, so you can
remove it now, if you don't want to keep that big file in there.
I wonder whom I should contact to get a copy of the book?

Stefan:
>Does any Disney publisher *ever* send an author's copy to *anyone*?

Oh, I got my copies of Danish, Norwegian and Swedish hall of Fames, all
right.

Best Wishes
Timo

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timo ronkainen wrote:
> Stefan:
>> Does any Disney publisher *ever* send an author's copy to *anyone*?
>
> Oh, I got my copies of Danish, Norwegian and Swedish hall of Fames, all
> right.

OK. Wasn't this one of the reasons to Don Rosa's strike a few years
ago, i.e. that he didn't get author's copies of issues containing his
stories? Has something about this changed during the latest years, or
are articles different compared to stories in this sense?

Stefan
Olaf Solstrand
Stefan Persson <spe at inducks.org> skreiv Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:55:54 +0100

> On 2005? 11 9 () 10:58 am, Cord Wiljes said:
>> So Ehapa/Egmont did not send you an author's copy? If you ask them they
>> will probably correct this oversight.
>
> Does any Disney publisher *ever* send an author's copy to *anyone*?

They sometimes do. I wrote a few short articles about distinctions in the
two first Scandinavian Hall of Fame-books, and I got author's copies of
the Norwegian editions of those books. But not of all publications of
these articles on a worldwide basis, no. My impression of the Norwegian
branch of Egmont Serieforlaget, which does a lot of editorial work on
books and such things, normally send a copy of the book to the people
who's written articles in these books. Though I can understand why the
same thing isn't done for every publication of that same article on a
worldwide basis.

Olaf
Fabio Blanco
Mark:

Imagine in Argentina where that price is four times more expensive. 8
dollars became 32 pesos. 30 dollars became 120 pesos. That's like the sold
of some people here.

I was buying the Little Lulu books from Dark Horse, but not anymore. They
are like 15 tomes.
I keep talking with publishers about publishing Duck's comics here.
Here in the country of Daniel Branca, Luis Destuet, Sergio Morettini, Walter
Carzon, Jos? Massaroli and Horacio Saavedra (and they are some few of the
artists creators of "disney" comics)

I keep trying, knowing when the time come I'll have the support of my dear
DCML (roman numbers, uh?)

FABIO

bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
http://virusmental.blogspot.com

> Here's the problem that I have: I really don't mind paying $7.52 (includes
> CA tax) once a month or so for a comic that contains a good Rosa story. I
> even buy 2 copies, one for my collection and one "reader" copy. But I
> resent
> like the dickens having to pay 3 times that amount for a single story as
> is
> the case with the Comics & Stories that spread one Rosa story over 3
> issues!
> That's $22.57 for a single Rosa story. Classics like "The Treasury of
> Croesus," "The Universal Solvent," "The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad,"
> "Attack of the Hideous Space Varmints," and both "Caballeros Ride Again"
> and
> "Minus Four Caballeros" all cost in the realm of $22-$23 each! That's
> ridiculous, plain and simple. If nothing else these ought be reserved for
> UNCLE SCROOGE issues that put the story in one edition. Leave other short
> 10-pagers for C&S where they traditionally belong.
>
Cord Wiljes
DISCLAIMER: The following paragraphs are pure speculation. I do not have
any special insights into the interior mechanisms of comic books
publishers. What I do know however is how businesses are run and why
sometimes things don't work as they are supposed to ;-)

The main reason why publishers often do not send out free copies to
authors is, I think,

+ NOT the cost of the book (absolutely negligible)
+ NOT the shipping costs
+ BUT RATHER: the amount of work necessary to keep track who actually
are tho book's authors and where they live

So the problem probably isn't money - but time. There has to be someone
whose job description includes "send out author's copies". If there
isn't no one will find the time to do it, even if everybody has good
intentions.

I believe every publisher will send out one (or more) free author's
copies if they are specifically asked for a certain book. But they may
not find the time to do this automatically for every publication.

In the case of authors like Don Rosa or Vicar, whose works are published
a lot by Ehapa here in Germany, I suppose Ehapa would rather be willing
to send out *every* new German Disney publication to them. This may in
fact be easier (and thereby cheaper) than trying to filter only those
which contain stories by the respective author. It may not hurt to ask
Ehapa for this.

Cord
John Lustig
Jeff, thanks for the kudos for "Somewhere." I'm glad you enjoyed it so much.
As for doing a long version, I doubt that this is something that'd happen in
the near future. I haven't even showed that version of the synopsis to any
of my Disney editors. But, yeah, I think the epic-length version of this
story would be kind of cool.

Whether that'll ever happen--or even should happen--is not something I'm
going to worry about right now though because...well, something else has
come up regarding "Somewhere."

Both Gemstone and Egmont have expressed interest in having me go back to
Carl Barks' original synopsis and do that 10-12 page story without all the
extras that were thrown in when "Somewhere" was expanded.

This is something that I've wanted to do for a long time. I never felt
comfortable deviating from Carl's synopsis. And I'm a hard-core Barks fan so
I would like to see the story done the way Carl originally intended it.

I don't want to keep re-writing the same story the rest of my life. The
challenge for me would be to stick tightly to Carl's original synopsis and
to make it seem fresh and unique--rather than just a shortened-version of
"Somewhere."

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
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on 11/9/05 3:00 AM, dcml-request at stp.lingfil.uu.se at
dcml-request at stp.lingfil.uu.se wrote:

> John Lustig asked for comments on the published version of Somewhere in
> Nowhere.
> First of all I think John did an incredible job with the story and set a
> great standard for others to follow.
>
> I think it's a classic and long overdue to be published in the US.
> I also have copies of the Itailian version which came out in both soft and
> hard cover a couple of years ago.
> The story and art are great and you would never know what went on behind the
> scenes.
> Now that I know however it would be great to see an expanded version. I'm
> sure Pat Block (who I'm a big fan of) would be happy to comply since I
> believe this is one of his best works.
> I would hope Gemstone would also consider doing it, since there is so much
> history involving the story and Carl Barks. I for one would buy an expanded
> version.
>
> Jeff LeRose
> jlerose at rtsz.com
Kimba1962
I enthusiastically second the positive reviews of "Somewhere in Nowhere." I have an extensive review of the comic on my personal web site

http://home.comcast.net/~kimba1962

Search in the recent archives of "Book and Movie Reviews" for more.

Chris Barat

--
The Barat's Home Page -- watch for weekly updates!http://home.comcast.net/~kimba1962
Rob Klein
Ehapa has sent me copies of The Jan Gulbransson (and, indeed, the other Scarpa, Vicar, ,
etc.) Hall of
Fame books, as it is easier than to figure out which books the authors need sent. So, at
least Ehapa is
doing it. I can't speak for The Scandinavian
publishers.

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Gary Leach
Cord:

> The main reason why publishers often do not send out free copies to
> authors is, I think,
>
> + NOT the cost of the book (absolutely negligible)

A more accurate phrase would be "relatively negligible", but you're
right, it's hardly the main reason.

> + NOT the shipping costs

These are more significant than the cost of the books, but still
relatively negligible.

> + BUT RATHER: the amount of work necessary to keep track who actually
> are tho book's authors and where they live

The amount of work isn't all that onerous, to be honest. However...

> So the problem probably isn't money - but time. There has to be
> someone
> whose job description includes "send out author's copies". If there
> isn't no one will find the time to do it, even if everybody has good
> intentions.

There's the truth of it. There is no one whose job it is to send out
author's - or "comp" - copies. In fact, it's not required of anyone.
It is done as a courtesy, which means that 1) it's a good thing to
do, and should be done, but also 2) that it has no practical priority
in the workflow.

> I believe every publisher will send out one (or more) free author's
> copies if they are specifically asked for a certain book. But they may
> not find the time to do this automatically for every publication.

Perhaps not every publisher will necessarily do this, but I have yet
to hear of one that wouldn't, within reason.

> In the case of authors like Don Rosa or Vicar, whose works are
> published
> a lot by Ehapa here in Germany, I suppose Ehapa would rather be
> willing
> to send out *every* new German Disney publication to them. This may in
> fact be easier (and thereby cheaper) than trying to filter only those
> which contain stories by the respective author. It may not hurt to ask
> Ehapa for this.

Whether this is Ehapa's view or not, it is a pretty fair description
of a fairly common practice.

(You sure you don't have any special insights into publishing?)

Gary
Timo Ronkainen
I contacted Ehapa and they promised to send me a copy. So it's most likely
due of lack of time, when they don't send these complimentary copies.

Best Wishes
Timo
Ola Martinsson (AS/EAB)
In the latest two issues of Swedish Kalle Anka (Donald Duck) & co a kind
of sequel to the classic Gottfredson story Mickey Mouse and the seven
ghosts from 1937 was published. It contains the house, Colonel Bassotti
and another character from the original that I don't want to reveal
here. I didn't spot that character myself until it was revealed in the
story itself who it was.

It is beautifully drawn by Cesar Ferioli who have drawn Mickey, Goofy
and Donald in the same style as in the 1937 original. I must ask you Mr
Ferioli since you seem to be following this list if the drawing style
was your idea or the writers? Also I noticed at least one drawing of
Donald that was an exact copy from the original, was that your idea ?

Anyhow my compliments to you for the drawings, I really liked them !

Ola in sunny Stockholm +8
Cesar Ferioli Pelaez
Hi Ola!

First of all I want to clarify something...

Doc Static=Ferioli

Mi old e-mail adress didn't work since a long time ago and a new "identity"
was the only way to receive again e-mails from the list. I'm a complete
*Goofy* on internet matters, I must say!

Well... I'm glad you liked the story. The script took backgrounds and
characters from "Mickey and the Seven Ghosts" as you well say, story
inspired in "Lonesome Ghosts", an old animation short...

There wasn't any order from the scripter nor the editor about. I decided
drawing old characters on my own, I think it was logic and the only way
possible.

Take the main characters for instance: readers have seen them evolving
through the years, so nowadays is "normal" that Mickey or Donald has nothing
to see with the old thirties characters... What could you think at seeing
Col. Basset "modernized" in a shot without seeing a logical process through
the years?

Thereby I preferred to keep as long as possible harmony in main and
secondary characters and, of course, backgrounds. Surely you can find some
"identhical" characters, I always had Gottfredson' story under my eyes
during the process.

I want to make clear it has been one of the hardest stories I've ever done:
more than "copy" a style is trying to change your own style into another one
(it happened to me also in "Mickey's Trailer") but at the end I had a reward
wich didn't deserve me... The opportunity of working deeply on the style of
Gottfredson in the thirties. You know, since Disney artists dont't make our
*own* characters, it's important to get back to the original sources from
time to time, that's an exercise I lively suggest to my colleagues...

Best regards,

C?sar/Doc Static

>From: "Ola Martinsson (AS/EAB)" <ola.martinsson at ericsson.com>
>To: <dcml at stp.lingfil.uu.se>
>Subject: Sequel to Gottfredssons MM and the seven ghosts published in
>Sweden
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:31:30 +0100
>In the latest two issues of Swedish Kalle Anka (Donald Duck) & co a kind
>of sequel to the classic Gottfredson story Mickey Mouse and the seven
>ghosts from 1937 was published. It contains the house, Colonel Bassotti
>and another character from the original that I don't want to reveal
>here. I didn't spot that character myself until it was revealed in the
>story itself who it was.
>
>It is beautifully drawn by Cesar Ferioli who have drawn Mickey, Goofy
>and Donald in the same style as in the 1937 original. I must ask you Mr
>Ferioli since you seem to be following this list if the drawing style
>was your idea or the writers? Also I noticed at least one drawing of
>Donald that was an exact copy from the original, was that your idea ?
>
>Anyhow my compliments to you for the drawings, I really liked them !
>
>Ola in sunny Stockholm +8
>
>

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