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Gooey98
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Message 91 -
2014-11-20 at 17:19:11
I'm still incredibly impressed with how Weta Digital made Tintin really come to life. The characters looked amazingly realistic and amazingly like the comic characters at the same time. I know mocap was part of it, but the character detail was ridiculous.
MustangRockstar
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Message 92 -
2014-11-20 at 18:41:42
I enjoyed Tin Tin. Wouldn't mind seeing a similar approach to an Uncle Scrooge movie.
Roger North
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Message 93 -
2014-11-21 at 03:32:50
An Uncle Scrooge Movie would be cool to see.
Mr. M
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Message 94 -
2014-11-21 at 08:01:43
Quote from user: MustangRockstarI enjoyed Tin Tin. Wouldn't mind seeing a similar approach to an Uncle Scrooge movie.
I was thinking the same thing :D I love how epic they made "Tintin" (that chase scene made in one shot... I'm blown away every time I see it) and how true they where to the spirit of the comics (the opening credits alone have like 50 in-jokes for the fans)
I remember I was a bit scared of the movie at first thinking they will probably tone it down to make it more PC (no guns, alcohol, mention of death) and they will try to update the characters to make them more modern (especially Tintin)... boy was I wrong ;) I'm glad Peter Jackson finally finished his third Hobbit movie as his next project will me a Tintin sequel :D
I was thinking the same thing :D I love how epic they made "Tintin" (that chase scene made in one shot... I'm blown away every time I see it) and how true they where to the spirit of the comics (the opening credits alone have like 50 in-jokes for the fans)
I remember I was a bit scared of the movie at first thinking they will probably tone it down to make it more PC (no guns, alcohol, mention of death) and they will try to update the characters to make them more modern (especially Tintin)... boy was I wrong ;) I'm glad Peter Jackson finally finished his third Hobbit movie as his next project will me a Tintin sequel :D
Gooey98
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Message 95 -
2014-11-21 at 18:38:29
I would love an Uncle Scrooge movie, especially if it was up to the quality of Tintin. I wonder how they would do Scrooge's voice...I really don't like it with the Scottish accent.
A Lo$ movie would be epic...but I don't know if Don Rosa would like that or not
A Lo$ movie would be epic...but I don't know if Don Rosa would like that or not
MustangRockstar
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Message 96 -
2014-11-22 at 18:55:38
I would want the involvement of people who were true Barks' fans if they went with an old school approach (Speilberg?).
I think the technology is there to do it, I'm just not sure Disney is daring enough to go for it.
I think the technology is there to do it, I'm just not sure Disney is daring enough to go for it.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
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Message 97 -
2014-11-25 at 23:11:42
I'd go there. If Disney is looking for a writer for this kind of thing... ;)
But who would voice Scrooge?
I'm not really familiar with Scottish actors, but Sylvester McCoy (The Hobbit, Doctor Who) would be perfect as a more cartoonish Scrooge in my eyes. You know, the more kid-friendly, bumbling, Gold Key era Scrooge as drawn by Strobl. He has a history in audio performances, and in physical comedy (if that's needed), and he has the right age.
But if they were ever going to make an adaptation of Don Rosa's Life and Times or something in that style, there's only... Peter Capaldi (The Thick of It, Doctor Who). :) He does 'manic, angry Scot' very well.
But who would voice Scrooge?
I'm not really familiar with Scottish actors, but Sylvester McCoy (The Hobbit, Doctor Who) would be perfect as a more cartoonish Scrooge in my eyes. You know, the more kid-friendly, bumbling, Gold Key era Scrooge as drawn by Strobl. He has a history in audio performances, and in physical comedy (if that's needed), and he has the right age.
But if they were ever going to make an adaptation of Don Rosa's Life and Times or something in that style, there's only... Peter Capaldi (The Thick of It, Doctor Who). :) He does 'manic, angry Scot' very well.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
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Message 98 -
2014-11-25 at 23:11:55
I'd go there. If Disney is looking for a writer for this kind of thing... ;)
But who would voice Scrooge?
I'm not really familiar with Scottish actors, but Sylvester McCoy (The Hobbit, Doctor Who) would be perfect as a more cartoonish Scrooge in my eyes. You know, the more kid-friendly, bumbling, Gold Key era Scrooge as drawn by Strobl. He has a history in audio performances, and in physical comedy (if that's needed), and he has the right age.
But if they were ever going to make an adaptation of Don Rosa's Life and Times or something in that style, there's only... Peter Capaldi (The Thick of It, Doctor Who). :) He does 'manic, angry Scot' very well.
But who would voice Scrooge?
I'm not really familiar with Scottish actors, but Sylvester McCoy (The Hobbit, Doctor Who) would be perfect as a more cartoonish Scrooge in my eyes. You know, the more kid-friendly, bumbling, Gold Key era Scrooge as drawn by Strobl. He has a history in audio performances, and in physical comedy (if that's needed), and he has the right age.
But if they were ever going to make an adaptation of Don Rosa's Life and Times or something in that style, there's only... Peter Capaldi (The Thick of It, Doctor Who). :) He does 'manic, angry Scot' very well.
MustangRockstar
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Message 99 -
2014-11-25 at 23:31:45
I'd cast Alan Young has an old Scrooge providing an opening introduction as he recounts his younger earlier adventures. The guy's earned the right after doing the voice for more than 30 years (with the exception of Sport Goofy in Soccermania).
Robb_K
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Message 100 -
2014-11-25 at 23:57:10
NONE of them are any good. What they need is someone with an authentic THICK heavy Scots brogue, who can ALSO make the Donald Duck voice like Clarence, "Ducky" Nash. I always HATED that all The Ducks other than Donald just sounded like Humans. It doesn't make ANY sense at all! Donald sounding like a duck was a GREAT and genius invention. The rest of The Ducks should sound similar. Claims that no one could understand them is absolute balderdash! And, because they are recordings, even if the person doing the voices could only do a little at a time, he could do that precisely that way (a little at a time).
We need to train Robbie Coltrane and a female from The Highlands to simulate the duck voices. It can't be that difficult. I've met hundreds of Barks and Disney Comics fans or Donald duck cartoon fans who do it VERY, VERY well.
We need to train Robbie Coltrane and a female from The Highlands to simulate the duck voices. It can't be that difficult. I've met hundreds of Barks and Disney Comics fans or Donald duck cartoon fans who do it VERY, VERY well.
Robb_K
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Message 101 -
2014-11-25 at 23:57:20
NONE of them are any good. What they need is someone with an authentic THICK heavy Scots brogue, who can ALSO make the Donald Duck voice like Clarence, "Ducky" Nash. I always HATED that all The Ducks other than Donald just sounded like Humans. It doesn't make ANY sense at all! Donald sounding like a duck was a GREAT and genius invention. The rest of The Ducks should sound similar. Claims that no one could understand them is absolute balderdash! And, because they are recordings, even if the person doing the voices could only do a little at a time, he could do that precisely that way (a little at a time).
We need to train Robbie Coltrane and a female from The Highlands to simulate the duck voices. It can't be that difficult. I've met hundreds of Barks and Disney Comics fans or Donald duck cartoon fans who do it VERY, VERY well.
We need to train Robbie Coltrane and a female from The Highlands to simulate the duck voices. It can't be that difficult. I've met hundreds of Barks and Disney Comics fans or Donald duck cartoon fans who do it VERY, VERY well.
Gooey98
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Message 102 -
2014-11-26 at 00:19:05
I agree with you on several points, Rob. It isn't hard for me to understand Donald's voice, unless people in the room make too much noise by talking about how they can't understand it. I think the other ducks should sound similar.
MustangRockstar
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Message 103 -
2014-11-26 at 03:52:08
I'm going to express a slightly different take than Robb.
I've always understood/believed Donald's voice to be somewhat unique, even amongst ducks. That's a point of focus on several of his older theatrical cartoons. As the character evolved, it became a running gag. I don't think Scrooge would necessarily have the garbled voice. However, Hortense probably would.
On that same note, voice actors have also commented the Donald voice can make certain phrases very difficult. As such, it can limit a characters vocabulary. That's not a huge deal in a gag oriented six or seven minute short, but proves rather difficult in a dialogue driven feature length movie. It's a big reason Donald is often paired up with other characters who tend to carry the bulk of the dialogue in longer features.
I've also never imagined Scrooge to have a thick accent, especially considering the amount of time he spent away from Scotland. I think Barks may have even said something along the lines of not really imagining him having a heavy accent. As a world traveler and a businessman, I would imagine his accent is present but somewhat muted. Also, when reading the comics, I seldom see much that would indicate a heavy accent as well.
With that said, there is no right or wrong way to hear the characters in our heads. Just like any written story, nothing can ever match what we imagine as we read. Straying from what we've "established" in our own readings and interpretations is often difficult.
I've always understood/believed Donald's voice to be somewhat unique, even amongst ducks. That's a point of focus on several of his older theatrical cartoons. As the character evolved, it became a running gag. I don't think Scrooge would necessarily have the garbled voice. However, Hortense probably would.
On that same note, voice actors have also commented the Donald voice can make certain phrases very difficult. As such, it can limit a characters vocabulary. That's not a huge deal in a gag oriented six or seven minute short, but proves rather difficult in a dialogue driven feature length movie. It's a big reason Donald is often paired up with other characters who tend to carry the bulk of the dialogue in longer features.
I've also never imagined Scrooge to have a thick accent, especially considering the amount of time he spent away from Scotland. I think Barks may have even said something along the lines of not really imagining him having a heavy accent. As a world traveler and a businessman, I would imagine his accent is present but somewhat muted. Also, when reading the comics, I seldom see much that would indicate a heavy accent as well.
With that said, there is no right or wrong way to hear the characters in our heads. Just like any written story, nothing can ever match what we imagine as we read. Straying from what we've "established" in our own readings and interpretations is often difficult.
Robb_K
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Message 104 -
2014-11-26 at 04:38:05
Quote from user: MustangRockstarI've also never imagined Scrooge to have a thick accent, especially considering the amount of time he spent away from Scotland. I think Barks may have even said something along the lines of not really imagining him having a heavy accent. As a world traveler and a businessman, I would imagine his accent is present but somewhat muted. Also, when reading the comics, I seldom see much that would indicate a heavy accent as well.
We seldom "read" a heavy accent, because the editors don't allow heavy accents in writing, thinking it might make it difficult to understand, and bog down the reader (hurting the story flow and pacing). I try to put a lot of original language accent words to give the feeling of the foreignness of the speaker, and the editors cut it down to almost nothing (so that it's almost completely gone).
Scrooge was a late teenager when leaving Scotland. Ages 12-14 are when language "freezes". I knew and know hundreds of people who spoke a different language from English, and immigrated to Canada or USA, and lived scores of years in the English-speaking country for the remainder of their lives, who arrived after age 13, and had heavy accents all their lives. Many of them were business owners who would have benefited from "losing" their accent. I knew almost none who arrived after 13 who lost their accent, or whose accents were lightened very much. I had a large family of virtually ALL immigrants, and lived in immigrant communities in which most of the residents were immigrants from countries that spoke languages other than English (Winnipeg - Russian, German, Dutch, Hungarian, Polish Jews, Ukranians, Swedes, Finns, Icelanders, Norwegians, French Canadiens (not immigrants- but English as 2nd language).
Chicago - Russian Jews, Irish, Poles, Puerto Ricans,
Los Angeles - Mexicans, Guatamalans, El Salvadorians, Persians, Palestinians, Ethiopians, Nigerians, Englanders, Peruvians, Chileans, Brazilians.
I have met almost none that arrived after age 13 or 14 that had a mild accent. Usually only actors and people who make a very EXTRAORDINARY effort to get rid of the accent due to business or special career needs succeed at getting rid of an accent, or cuting it down drastically. I think that Alan Young's Scots accent was too weak for Scrooge. I think that his leaving Scotland at age 16 or so would have him stuck with a heavy Scots brogue, unless he would have decided that he'd need a milder accent as a salesman. But he traveled all over The World over his many years of building his fortune, learning and speaking many foreign languages. When would he have gotten all that much time working on his English speech patterns. Besides, he wouldn't have wasted time "practicing" clearer speech, as it would take time away that he could be making more money.
We seldom "read" a heavy accent, because the editors don't allow heavy accents in writing, thinking it might make it difficult to understand, and bog down the reader (hurting the story flow and pacing). I try to put a lot of original language accent words to give the feeling of the foreignness of the speaker, and the editors cut it down to almost nothing (so that it's almost completely gone).
Scrooge was a late teenager when leaving Scotland. Ages 12-14 are when language "freezes". I knew and know hundreds of people who spoke a different language from English, and immigrated to Canada or USA, and lived scores of years in the English-speaking country for the remainder of their lives, who arrived after age 13, and had heavy accents all their lives. Many of them were business owners who would have benefited from "losing" their accent. I knew almost none who arrived after 13 who lost their accent, or whose accents were lightened very much. I had a large family of virtually ALL immigrants, and lived in immigrant communities in which most of the residents were immigrants from countries that spoke languages other than English (Winnipeg - Russian, German, Dutch, Hungarian, Polish Jews, Ukranians, Swedes, Finns, Icelanders, Norwegians, French Canadiens (not immigrants- but English as 2nd language).
Chicago - Russian Jews, Irish, Poles, Puerto Ricans,
Los Angeles - Mexicans, Guatamalans, El Salvadorians, Persians, Palestinians, Ethiopians, Nigerians, Englanders, Peruvians, Chileans, Brazilians.
I have met almost none that arrived after age 13 or 14 that had a mild accent. Usually only actors and people who make a very EXTRAORDINARY effort to get rid of the accent due to business or special career needs succeed at getting rid of an accent, or cuting it down drastically. I think that Alan Young's Scots accent was too weak for Scrooge. I think that his leaving Scotland at age 16 or so would have him stuck with a heavy Scots brogue, unless he would have decided that he'd need a milder accent as a salesman. But he traveled all over The World over his many years of building his fortune, learning and speaking many foreign languages. When would he have gotten all that much time working on his English speech patterns. Besides, he wouldn't have wasted time "practicing" clearer speech, as it would take time away that he could be making more money.
MustangRockstar
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Message 105 -
2014-11-26 at 05:15:16
True, while a heavy accent is seldom written, his verbiage is very contemporary American. It also isn't reflected in the way any other character reacts to him or the way he approaches other characters, with some rare exceptions. Truth be told there's really very little to indicate him having a thick accent or not having one.
I think Scrooge would have a very noticeable accent, but I don't think he'd sound "fresh off the boat" by the time he was an older gentleman. Definitely Scottish, rolling his r's, but not as sharp as someone who lives their whole life in Scotland.
And like you, I've encountered people of all different origins, being born and raised in the small melting pot known as New York City. I also did so as a sports reporter covering hockey, which is filled with a small buffet of accents itself. I'll respectfully disagree about people's accents being dulled over time based on my experiences interviewing players and others around the sport. They wouldnt be mistaken for natives of the US, but they would also get a smirk from their fellow countrymen. I would say its a very distinct possibility Scrooge's accent softened (not disappeared), based on his life path and experiences as a businessman. But again, there's no real indications one way or the other.
I think Scrooge would have a very noticeable accent, but I don't think he'd sound "fresh off the boat" by the time he was an older gentleman. Definitely Scottish, rolling his r's, but not as sharp as someone who lives their whole life in Scotland.
And like you, I've encountered people of all different origins, being born and raised in the small melting pot known as New York City. I also did so as a sports reporter covering hockey, which is filled with a small buffet of accents itself. I'll respectfully disagree about people's accents being dulled over time based on my experiences interviewing players and others around the sport. They wouldnt be mistaken for natives of the US, but they would also get a smirk from their fellow countrymen. I would say its a very distinct possibility Scrooge's accent softened (not disappeared), based on his life path and experiences as a businessman. But again, there's no real indications one way or the other.