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I mentioned earlier that Donald Duck was seen (literally) exposed, but Disney Comics have violent scenes in them, especially the Italian ones (sorry that I'm picking on you).

Quote from user: Fernando VenturaAnd so what? If it's fun that's what matters.
That's what I said about Naked Donald Duck...since ducks don't wear clothes anyhow like Donald Duck's Rival Daffy!

Quote from user: Fernando VenturaI like the early Woody Woodpecker because he's insane AND violent! :)
Jack Hannah made a few Donald Duck and WW cartoons!

Quote from user: CoolwaterThe Italian stories (at least those I know; I stopped following them largely in the mid-ninetees) are clearly more violent, but the violence and brutality displayed in them is usually too comical, cartoonish and absurd to be taken serious. I like the Mediterranean "pepper".

Italy's Donald and Scrooge were never as rowdyish as Tom and Jerry. ;) (I like these two also.)

The classic American comic stories maybe got a bit too "nonviolent" and finishing-school-suitable at a certain point. The sanguine days of fighting between Donald and the kids were over when a "neurotic mother" wrote a complaint letter to Western Publishing ...
Really?

I can't find any DD Comics at the Library now. Maybe they should release Italian stories in the States soon....

The violence in Italian comics is excessive mostly when it is emotional or psychologic. In some classic stories, there is a degree of contempt and even hatred between Donald and Scrooge especially that is truly striking. I'm thinking of http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++172-AP , of http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++746-A , of http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++879-A , but also http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++573-A . Never has Donald been treated so badly by his uncle than in that last story.
Other examples of stories so cruel that they have no equivalent in US or any other non-Italian Disney comics are http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++466-A , http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++460-A , http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++575-A , http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++366-B . All of these stories have a sad ending, without redemption, leaving the reader feeling bad. Again, I'm not talking about physical violence here. The violence is the continuous and utter humiliation of Donald, and, in the last story, of Scrooge.
Now, for an example of physical violence, there is one that is laughable now but certainly wasn't in 1961: http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++293-BP . There is a Rambo style shoot-out with heavy machine guns in the end that had me quite impressed at a tender age. You couldn't have seen that in a US Disney comic in that decade!

Quote from user: CoolwaterIt was also sort of running gag in older Italian comics that a story closed with Scrooge chasing Donald with his cane. In my recollection it is countless stories that close with that scene. I think actual physical violence between Scrooge and Donald (or, rescpectively, from Scrooge to Donald) doesn't really take place that often in Barks' stories ...

I think namely Lorenzo De Vita's stories often showed some trippy form of violence.

There's one old Italian story where Goofy is shot in his bu... his back with a machine gun (!), and he only jumps up and shouts "ouch!"! Now if that isn't too weird ... I don't know if Jerry ever did that with Tom ... ;)
Or Itchy with Scratchy!

Ah, it is that! Many thanks! I liked to look it up again, but I had absolutely no idea anymore what the story with that scene was about and where I could find it. It's probably 15 years or so ago that I read LTB number 2 the last time ...

From I TL 340-BP (1962)