We knew, thank to Guido Martina and Giovan battista Carpi, that Scrooge has a twin brother, but I discovered today a Scrooge's brother mentioned in a Taliaferro strip:
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/us/zz/yd/1966/us_zz1966f04d_001.png&normalsize=1
From YD 66-05-04
Is it the same person?
Bye,
Sim
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Topic: Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
(57 messages)
Sim
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 1 -
2012-04-09 at 12:54:57
Lars Jensen
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 2 -
2012-04-09 at 14:07:39
We also know Scrooge has another brother, thanks to Romano Scarpa. (He is Scrooge's brother, right?)
Sim
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 3 -
2012-04-09 at 14:26:23
Quote from user: Lars JensenWe also know Scrooge has another brother, thanks to Romano Scarpa. (He is Scrooge's brother, right?)
Yes, he is Scrooge's brother too.
Yes, he is Scrooge's brother too.
Sigvald
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 4 -
2012-04-09 at 16:06:22
You all forget something very important - Carl Barks who created Scrooge made it very clear in his Duck Family Trees that Scrooge has two sisters only.
Roger North
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 5 -
2012-04-09 at 16:24:40
That must be true Sigvald but two other artists gave him at least two half brothers.
Sim
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 6 -
2012-04-09 at 17:06:16
Quote from user: Roger NorthThat must be true Sigvald but two other artists gave him at least two half brothers.
You mean Gedeone and Rumpus, right?
I think we MUST consider Taliaferro as canonical as Barks if not more.
You mean Gedeone and Rumpus, right?
I think we MUST consider Taliaferro as canonical as Barks if not more.
Lars Jensen
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 7 -
2012-04-09 at 17:08:12
Quote from user: SigvaldYou all forget something very important - Carl Barks who created Scrooge made it very clear in his Duck Family Trees that Scrooge has two sisters only.
Hi Sigvald. Are you referring to http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=Qus%2FCBL+6I ? If you are, then note that the tree doesn't show all characters in the Duck family (like the father of Huey, Dewey and Louie, for instance). There must be Duck family members other than the ones Barks showed. Therefore, Scrooge could easily have a few brothers without it contradicting Barks' Duck family tree or the thoughts behind it.
Hi Sigvald. Are you referring to http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=Qus%2FCBL+6I ? If you are, then note that the tree doesn't show all characters in the Duck family (like the father of Huey, Dewey and Louie, for instance). There must be Duck family members other than the ones Barks showed. Therefore, Scrooge could easily have a few brothers without it contradicting Barks' Duck family tree or the thoughts behind it.
Lars Jensen
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 8 -
2012-04-09 at 17:09:26
Quote from user: SimYou mean Gedeone and Rumpus, right?
Rumpus is another brother, yes.
Rumpus is another brother, yes.
Gyro Gearloose
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 9 -
2012-04-09 at 18:40:33
Barks' family tree was made for his own reference; it never was intended to be "canonical." Rosa (who I suspect will be brought into the conversation soon) himself ignored/altered parts of Barks' tree himself, making Goostave Gander and Daphne Duck Gladstone's birth parents, when Barks had Goostave and Hortense McDuck as Gladstone's adoptive parents after the death of Daphne and her husband Luke Goose from overeating at a family picnic (Luke became Gus Goose's father on Rosa's tree).
Personally, I like the idea of creators being able to introduce Duck relatives out of the blue, without too much thought for where they fit on "family trees." Barks did this with Scrooge, Gladstone, and others--had he followed the strict "canons" a lot of fans seem to prefer these days, we wouldn't have some of his most memorable characters.
P. G. Wodehouse, another of the greatest writers of the 20th century, had a long-running series of short stories in which the tale-spinning Mr. Mulliner would relate the adventures of a brother, nephew, niece, cousin, or the like. Wodehouse never explained how one man could have so many relatives, or the connection between the uncountable Mulliner nieces and nephews, and...he didn't need to. The stories worked well without it, and I think Duck stories work well without a rigidly-imposed family tree in the background.
Personally, I like the idea of creators being able to introduce Duck relatives out of the blue, without too much thought for where they fit on "family trees." Barks did this with Scrooge, Gladstone, and others--had he followed the strict "canons" a lot of fans seem to prefer these days, we wouldn't have some of his most memorable characters.
P. G. Wodehouse, another of the greatest writers of the 20th century, had a long-running series of short stories in which the tale-spinning Mr. Mulliner would relate the adventures of a brother, nephew, niece, cousin, or the like. Wodehouse never explained how one man could have so many relatives, or the connection between the uncountable Mulliner nieces and nephews, and...he didn't need to. The stories worked well without it, and I think Duck stories work well without a rigidly-imposed family tree in the background.
Sim
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 10 -
2012-04-09 at 19:05:11
Quote from user: Gyro GearloosePersonally, I like the idea of creators being able to introduce Duck relatives out of the blue, without too much thought for where they fit on "family trees." Barks did this with Scrooge, Gladstone, and others--had he followed the strict "canons" a lot of fans seem to prefer these days, we wouldn't have some of his most memorable characters.
I think there is a basis wich cannot be altered: Donald has a rich uncle, three nephews, a grandmother and a dandy cousin (okay, let's add Fethry and Gus).
I think the rest could be edited by the author when he likes, he can add relatives, etc...
I think there is a basis wich cannot be altered: Donald has a rich uncle, three nephews, a grandmother and a dandy cousin (okay, let's add Fethry and Gus).
I think the rest could be edited by the author when he likes, he can add relatives, etc...
Lars Jensen
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 11 -
2012-04-09 at 19:24:44
Quote from user: SimI think there is a basis wich cannot be altered: Donald has a rich uncle, three nephews, a grandmother and a dandy cousin (okay, let's add Fethry and Gus).
I think the rest could be edited by the author when he likes, he can add relatives, etc...
"Gyro Gearloose" isn't talking about a basis or about altering it. He's saying that it should be possible to add new characters to the Duck family tree. Like Barks and, before him, Taliaferro did.
No one wants to remove Scrooge from existence. Some people want to bring new Duck relatives into being.
I think the rest could be edited by the author when he likes, he can add relatives, etc...
"Gyro Gearloose" isn't talking about a basis or about altering it. He's saying that it should be possible to add new characters to the Duck family tree. Like Barks and, before him, Taliaferro did.
No one wants to remove Scrooge from existence. Some people want to bring new Duck relatives into being.
Sim
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 12 -
2012-04-09 at 19:37:42
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimI think there is a basis wich cannot be altered: Donald has a rich uncle, three nephews, a grandmother and a dandy cousin (okay, let's add Fethry and Gus).
I think the rest could be edited by the author when he likes, he can add relatives, etc...
"Gyro Gearloose" isn't talking about a basis or about altering it.
I read. That was only a consideration of mine.
I think the rest could be edited by the author when he likes, he can add relatives, etc...
"Gyro Gearloose" isn't talking about a basis or about altering it.
I read. That was only a consideration of mine.
Roger North
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 13 -
2012-04-09 at 19:52:24
Quote from user: Gyro GearlooseBarks' family tree was made for his own reference; it never was intended to be "canonical." Rosa (who I suspect will be brought into the conversation soon) himself ignored/altered parts of Barks' tree himself, making Goostave Gander and Daphne Duck Gladstone's birth parents, when Barks had Goostave and Hortense McDuck as Gladstone's adoptive parents after the death of Daphne and her husband Luke Goose from overeating at a family picnic (Luke became Gus Goose's father on Rosa's tree).
Personally, I like the idea of creators being able to introduce Duck relatives out of the blue, without too much thought for where they fit on "family trees." Barks did this with Scrooge, Gladstone, and others--had he followed the strict "canons" a lot of fans seem to prefer these days, we wouldn't have some of his most memorable characters.
P. G. Wodehouse, another of the greatest writers of the 20th century, had a long-running series of short stories in which the tale-spinning Mr. Mulliner would relate the adventures of a brother, nephew, niece, cousin, or the like. Wodehouse never explained how one man could have so many relatives, or the connection between the uncountable Mulliner nieces and nephews, and...he didn't need to. The stories worked well without it, and I think Duck stories work well without a rigidly-imposed family tree in the background.
Hortense was Donald's mother. Daphne and Luke were Gladstone's original parents. It was Matilda who was married to Goostave. They changed it around so that Goostave was Daphne's husband and Gladstone's biological father.
Personally, I like the idea of creators being able to introduce Duck relatives out of the blue, without too much thought for where they fit on "family trees." Barks did this with Scrooge, Gladstone, and others--had he followed the strict "canons" a lot of fans seem to prefer these days, we wouldn't have some of his most memorable characters.
P. G. Wodehouse, another of the greatest writers of the 20th century, had a long-running series of short stories in which the tale-spinning Mr. Mulliner would relate the adventures of a brother, nephew, niece, cousin, or the like. Wodehouse never explained how one man could have so many relatives, or the connection between the uncountable Mulliner nieces and nephews, and...he didn't need to. The stories worked well without it, and I think Duck stories work well without a rigidly-imposed family tree in the background.
Hortense was Donald's mother. Daphne and Luke were Gladstone's original parents. It was Matilda who was married to Goostave. They changed it around so that Goostave was Daphne's husband and Gladstone's biological father.
Roger North
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 14 -
2012-04-09 at 19:53:30
Quote from user: SimQuote from user: Roger NorthThat must be true Sigvald but two other artists gave him at least two half brothers.
You mean Gedeone and Rumpus, right?
I think we MUST consider Taliaferro as canonical as Barks if not more.
Yes I mean Gideon and Rumpus.
You mean Gedeone and Rumpus, right?
I think we MUST consider Taliaferro as canonical as Barks if not more.
Yes I mean Gideon and Rumpus.
Baar Baar Jinx
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 15 -
2012-04-09 at 23:45:44
Quote from user: Roger NorthYes I mean Gideon and Rumpus.
Well, Scrooge and Rumpus were not raised as brothers, so the above reference must be to this Gideon person!
I just realized that I've never read a story with Gideon, and don't even know what he looks like. Strangely enough, googling him brings up no images. Can someone post a link to a picture of him?
Also, Grandma seems to have been redesigned somewhat in that strip. Did Taliaferro use this version of her (smaller eyes, different hairstyle) a lot?
Well, Scrooge and Rumpus were not raised as brothers, so the above reference must be to this Gideon person!
I just realized that I've never read a story with Gideon, and don't even know what he looks like. Strangely enough, googling him brings up no images. Can someone post a link to a picture of him?
Also, Grandma seems to have been redesigned somewhat in that strip. Did Taliaferro use this version of her (smaller eyes, different hairstyle) a lot?